JAC BUDGET HEARINGS 01/09/2006

 

 

      0 ~ 1/9/2006 6:46:43 AM ~ Start Recording

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      6 ~ 1/9/2006 8:05:19 AM ~ Start Recording

     17 ~ 1/9/2006 8:05:30 AM ~ Rep. Philp - Welcome to Auditor Max Maxfield

     58 ~ 1/9/2006 8:06:11 AM ~ Maxfield - Deputy Larry Stevenson, Don't have dispute w/ rec. of Governor .  Would like to just answer ques. that you have.

   3:54 ~ 1/9/2006 8:09:07 AM ~ Stevenson - 5 yr contract CTIMS co is in VA

   5:19 ~ 1/9/2006 8:10:32 AM ~ Max

   5:38 ~ 1/9/2006 8:10:51 AM ~ Beman answered about where co. are - some off shore and some in Phoenix

   6:09 ~ 1/9/2006 8:11:22 AM ~ Nicholas -

   6:18 ~ 1/9/2006 8:11:31 AM ~ Stephenson - req. a trememdous amt. of tech. service and we can't do it within state gov.  It appears to be in line with the industry.  Might have some variations and equipment,  but you really are in the ballpark where ever you go.

   8:15 ~ 1/9/2006 8:13:28 AM ~ Nicholas if you go into 5 yr. contract then you overlap with another auditor's term.

   9:04 ~ 1/9/2006 8:14:17 AM ~ Maxfield - we would like to stay locked in w/ one.

   9:29 ~ 1/9/2006 8:14:42 AM ~ Philp - next item is system modifications -

   9:42 ~ 1/9/2006 8:14:55 AM ~ Nicholas - Are you doing 5 yr and budgeting for 3???  What gov say?

  10:23 ~ 1/9/2006 8:15:36 AM ~ Stephenson - gov didn't want to fund past 3 yrs

  10:53 ~ 1/9/2006 8:16:06 AM ~ McVey - Gov understands that we are going to enter into 5 yr contract.

  11:26 ~ 1/9/2006 8:16:39 AM ~ Stephenson - All of discussion was around the contract  We will save state 3.5 mil by doing this. These modifications are as close as possible to keep our state

  14:13 ~ 1/9/2006 8:19:26 AM ~ Simpson- This amt of hours is for 2 people full-time for a year.  Couldn't you write the software for this??

  14:47 ~ 1/9/2006 8:20:00 AM ~ Beman -We won't need them for that long of a period so it is better for us to use these people.

  15:27 ~ 1/9/2006 8:20:40 AM ~ Jorgensen-Bit related - complement you on sticking w/ firm -

  16:16 ~ 1/9/2006 8:21:29 AM ~ Stephenson-hardware, software maintenance - we added more features and more funticonality-

  17:44 ~ 1/9/2006 8:22:57 AM ~ Meuli- I'm assuming that this is outside what the state does???

  18:01 ~ 1/9/2006 8:23:14 AM ~ Stephenson- Yes , it is outside

  18:32 ~ 1/9/2006 8:23:44 AM ~ Nicholas - Your exception is $300K inc. why??

  18:50 ~ 1/9/2006 8:24:03 AM ~ Beman - It is because we have a contract that is falling off and the rate is lower.  They will no longer extend this discount.

  20:16 ~ 1/9/2006 8:25:29 AM ~ Job- Shouldn't this be apart of this contract?

  20:37 ~ 1/9/2006 8:25:50 AM ~ Beman - they are different.

  20:55 ~ 1/9/2006 8:26:08 AM ~ Simpson - What is the term of these new contracts?

  21:14 ~ 1/9/2006 8:26:27 AM ~ Beman- As long as we use their maintenance.

  21:43 ~ 1/9/2006 8:26:56 AM ~ Simpson- What about the pkg. cost???  25% of 1M

  22:24 ~ 1/9/2006 8:27:37 AM ~ Beman- Some other state agencies have added their modules in our office and that is inc.

  22:56 ~ 1/9/2006 8:28:09 AM ~ Philp - What is self-service?

  23:05 ~ 1/9/2006 8:28:18 AM ~ Beman- Emp. can get their info on-line -

  23:44 ~ 1/9/2006 8:28:56 AM ~ Simpson- what % of your contracts are on-line??

  24:08 ~ 1/9/2006 8:29:21 AM ~ Beman- Most of the RFD's will be controlled in the purchasing office.

  24:41 ~ 1/9/2006 8:29:54 AM ~ Simpson - What is driving that in your office?

  24:54 ~ 1/9/2006 8:30:07 AM ~ Simpson- We have been working w/ purchasing office for over a yr. and they will set the parameters for that.

  25:31 ~ 1/9/2006 8:30:43 AM ~ Meuli - $315K for maintenance - no terminamtion date on that - uust on-going??? Can they raise those rates whenever??

  26:14 ~ 1/9/2006 8:31:27 AM ~ Beman - they can be raised over time, but we ask for them to be set of the bien.  We don't want any surprises.

  26:49 ~ 1/9/2006 8:32:01 AM ~ Meuli - Those rates are set for 2 yrs.

  27:02 ~ 1/9/2006 8:32:15 AM ~ Stephenson - In that we are asking for 2 more positions in our office to get them trained and then they can go out and teach the other agencies.    The other agencies will have to learn our system.

  28:49 ~ 1/9/2006 8:34:02 AM ~ Maxfield - We've had this module and it has been an option for them to use , but we think that they need to get this started so we can track all the grants to see if they are in compliance.

  31:04 ~ 1/9/2006 8:36:17 AM ~ Warren - Then you should  be able to keep track of all grants???

  31:44 ~ 1/9/2006 8:36:57 AM ~ Stephenson- It is the detail that we will have to ask them about, but we will have a better handle on the things that each agency has.  It should save lots of time for auditors .

  34:11 ~ 1/9/2006 8:39:24 AM ~ Anderson-

  34:34 ~ 1/9/2006 8:39:47 AM ~ Hines- Are these employees AWACS?

  35:16 ~ 1/9/2006 8:40:29 AM ~ Stephenson- Yes

  35:23 ~ 1/9/2006 8:40:36 AM ~ Hines - Why AWACS, not just keep on staff?

  35:56 ~ 1/9/2006 8:41:09 AM ~ Stephenson- We think that we can manage w/ our staff after people are trained, but after the agency people have learned system we think that we can manage w/ our staff. The agencies have their spread sheets, but they have to be tied back so that we can monitor them.

  38:08 ~ 1/9/2006 8:43:21 AM ~ Stephenson - item 5 is for replacement switched These are need in our office .  Our switches need to be replaced because they are in the elevator room and they fail frequently.  We need to have funding for them.  We can get them w/in 24 hrs.    Have about 8 people that work consistently on holidays, weekends and overtime.  We have put in place a way to pay them.

  41:11 ~ 1/9/2006 8:46:23 AM ~ Meuli- Didn't we put more money in for equity in salaries last yr.?  Why wasn't this put in last yr.

  42:47 ~ 1/9/2006 8:48:00 AM ~ Stephenson- These people put in more hrs. consistently to keep the system running.

  43:49 ~ 1/9/2006 8:49:02 AM ~ Meuli- How do you track the hrs. they put in if they are doing it from home?

  44:25 ~ 1/9/2006 8:49:38 AM ~ Stephenson- They put in a tremendous amt of time and they are up and monitoring at all hrs. of night.

  45:31 ~ 1/9/2006 8:50:43 AM ~ Meuli- This will be part of your standard budget???

  45:55 ~ 1/9/2006 8:51:07 AM ~ Stephenson - yes Because of their duties they are not covered.

  46:23 ~ 1/9/2006 8:51:36 AM ~ Warren - What does it mean versus comp time ---add on??

  46:48 ~ 1/9/2006 8:52:01 AM ~ Stephenson- It is for additional duties - comp time is because you have to earn it - these people would not be eligible for this.   This doesn't actually adjust the base.   If these people don't do these duties anymore then we remove it.

  48:44 ~ 1/9/2006 8:53:57 AM ~ Stephenson- We are asking for another full-time position to rectify a situation in our office for tech person .

  50:47 ~ 1/9/2006 8:56:00 AM ~

  50:55 ~ 1/9/2006 8:56:08 AM ~ Hines - You are going for 24 - 27 employees???How is this happening?

  51:48 ~ 1/9/2006 8:57:01 AM ~ McVey - my understanding that this is an equivalent position - they think that it will  be about 3 AWACS.

  52:53 ~ 1/9/2006 8:58:06 AM ~ Stephenson- item 8 is leased equipment - We lease all of our equipment

  53:32 ~ 1/9/2006 8:58:45 AM ~ Beman- We are switching to another contract and it is slightly higher.

  53:56 ~ 1/9/2006 8:59:08 AM ~ Simpson- Please explain.

  54:21 ~ 1/9/2006 8:59:34 AM ~ Beman- The co that had been doing business with has been bought out by another co.  The new one is diff.

  54:52 ~ 1/9/2006 9:00:05 AM ~ Stephenson- vehicles- these are from motor vehicle managment system.   Next is AWAC position.   We have an ex. position and there is only one there.  If we need some ex. help we use this one.  We are asking add. funds to be in the budget.

  56:43 ~ 1/9/2006 9:01:55 AM ~ Hines - back to motor  vehicle charges-  Why so high???  More vehicles??

  57:24 ~ 1/9/2006 9:02:37 AM ~ Stephenson- This is for just 1 vehicle and last yr. we didn't get the correct amt.  I think that they look at a 3 yr. deprec. on vehicle. They tell us what the costs will be. Only 1 perm. assigned vehicle.  The next req. is for the equipment for the new person for which we asked.    Last item is transition funding so new auditor can have some funds for unforeseen needs.

1:00:23 ~ 1/9/2006 9:05:36 AM ~ Hines - You're not talking about anything that affects the election??

1:01:30 ~ 1/9/2006 9:06:42 AM ~ Stephenson- no

1:01:46 ~ 1/9/2006 9:06:59 AM ~ Warren - Do we typically put money in for transitions??

1:02:33 ~ 1/9/2006 9:07:46 AM ~ Maxfield- I bought all of my furniture personally.  It is a new item.  It was a suggestion from the budget office that this be put in.

1:03:30 ~ 1/9/2006 9:08:43 AM ~ Warren- Maybe it should be broken down and specify what it is to be used for.

1:04:33 ~ 1/9/2006 9:09:46 AM ~ McVey- it is a request from the Gov. because it was not addressed when he took office.

1:05:27 ~ 1/9/2006 9:10:40 AM ~ Meuli- The CAMAS program is being put in across the state- Is there money being put into our office to do this?

1:06:20 ~ 1/9/2006 9:11:33 AM ~ McVey- That item is discussed in the Revenue budget.

1:06:55 ~ 1/9/2006 9:12:08 AM ~ Philp- Medicaid

1:07:06 ~ 1/9/2006 9:12:19 AM ~ McVey- This will probably come during health budget.

1:07:37 ~ 1/9/2006 9:12:50 AM ~ Nicholas - What is the trigger for these monies that have been housed in your office???  I guess that we need to watch whatever the requirements are put on.

1:08:45 ~ 1/9/2006 9:13:58 AM ~ Philp - Thank you.

1:23:34 ~ 1/9/2006 9:28:47 AM ~ Dept. of Agriculture

1:23:46 ~ 1/9/2006 9:28:59 AM ~ Director Etchepare-Ask Julie Cook to present budget, brought managers for programs if questions.

1:24:40 ~ 1/9/2006 9:29:53 AM ~ Cook - p. 12 first exception- reorganize IT

1:25:45 ~ 1/9/2006 9:30:58 AM ~ Cook #2 Standarcize software to Microsoft, training, approved

1:26:12 ~ 1/9/2006 9:31:25 AM ~ Cook - priority 3 approved

1:26:33 ~ 1/9/2006 9:31:45 AM ~ Cook #4 increase in travel, auditor's report 7% increase, 8% mileage, approved by gov.

1:27:08 ~ 1/9/2006 9:32:21 AM ~ Hines - go back to technical specialits, benefits @ 50%, higher

1:27:49 ~ 1/9/2006 9:33:02 AM ~ Cook - used standard bar system to correct rates, accounts for increased insurance

1:28:21 ~ 1/9/2006 9:33:34 AM ~ McVey - amt. will vary due to lower/higher salaried, calculated specifically individual basis

1:29:04 ~ 1/9/2006 9:34:17 AM ~ Philp - go back to p.5 corrected copy, what was corrected?

1:29:40 ~ 1/9/2006 9:34:52 AM ~ Cook - column 4, pg. 5 total amt.was corrected, number dropped off.

1:30:43 ~ 1/9/2006 9:35:56 AM ~ Cook - MVMS funding gov. approved

1:31:29 ~ 1/9/2006 9:36:42 AM ~ Meuli - all funding increases set in A&I? Each agency?

1:32:03 ~ 1/9/2006 9:37:16 AM ~ McVey - A&I provided each agency information for them to include in their budgets.  Rate increases will be in each agency.

1:32:49 ~ 1/9/2006 9:38:02 AM ~ Meuli- Permanently assigned vehicles - SUV costs more?

1:33:15 ~ 1/9/2006 9:38:28 AM ~ Cook - no changes between types made

1:33:43 ~ 1/9/2006 9:38:56 AM ~ Simpson - Dept. priorities?

1:33:56 ~ 1/9/2006 9:39:09 AM ~ Cook - each division brings priorities to a meeting of all, discussed with all, then director/deputy evaluate list.  31 different requests were only part of requests, significantly cut Refered to Priority list from dept.- Handout #33

1:36:06 ~ 1/9/2006 9:41:19 AM ~ Cook, p. 20 request of Bd. of Agriculture, telecommunications costs, gov. approved

1:36:54 ~ 1/9/2006 9:42:07 AM ~ Job - Issues that determine?

1:37:16 ~ 1/9/2006 9:42:29 AM ~ Cook - Operating budget discussed, in past Bd. was not aggressive, now active

1:37:59 ~ 1/9/2006 9:43:12 AM ~ Etchepere - 7 board, added 4 youth members = 11, adds to costs of board

1:38:27 ~ 1/9/2006 9:43:39 AM ~ Anderson- youth members, how operate?

1:38:47 ~ 1/9/2006 9:44:00 AM ~ Etchepere - advisory capacity,  want to make full voting members, bill to come forward this sessionlvery important role.

1:39:43 ~ 1/9/2006 9:44:56 AM ~ Jorgensen - age requirement?

1:39:54 ~ 1/9/2006 9:45:06 AM ~ Etchepere - 18 to 30, ag. primary source of income.

1:40:11 ~ 1/9/2006 9:45:24 AM ~ Cook-

1:41:06 ~ 1/9/2006 9:46:19 AM ~ Jorgensen - studies

1:41:24 ~ 1/9/2006 9:46:37 AM ~ Etchepere - CWD funds explained, research area  good in isolated deer group CWD. death of researcher studies continuing. Scraping project explained. Leichen study - cause of elk dying off?

1:43:48 ~ 1/9/2006 9:49:01 AM ~ Petersen - $250,000 reduction by Gov. asked.  Will UW and other agencies ask for money on these studies as well?

1:44:32 ~ 1/9/2006 9:49:45 AM ~ Etchepere - not for these, no additional funds

1:44:53 ~ 1/9/2006 9:50:06 AM ~ Hines - Projects at UW, separate projects?

1:45:38 ~ 1/9/2006 9:50:51 AM ~ Ethepere - not duplicates,

1:46:06 ~ 1/9/2006 9:51:19 AM ~ Hines - asked for list of projects, any reversions?

1:46:27 ~ 1/9/2006 9:51:39 AM ~ Etchepere - funds not used until recently, had good interest on funds, will provide list.

1:46:57 ~ 1/9/2006 9:52:10 AM ~ Cook, p. 29 Rural Dev. Council reqested to offset fed. funds. Referred to Gov. Letter #01

1:48:34 ~ 1/9/2006 9:53:47 AM ~ Simpson - why did Gov. recommend GF monies when originally not in favor.

1:49:03 ~ 1/9/2006 9:54:15 AM ~ Cook - some initial miscommunication in meeting with Gov.  MainStreet plan, Mary Randolf, director

1:49:50 ~ 1/9/2006 9:55:03 AM ~ Simpson - match?

1:50:03 ~ 1/9/2006 9:55:15 AM ~ Mary - Randolf ex. Director discussed 5 yr. Community  Assessment Synopsis magazine.

1:51:59 ~ 1/9/2006 9:57:12 AM ~ Cook - p. 34 Mainstreet - Gov. approved #315,000

1:52:46 ~ 1/9/2006 9:57:59 AM ~ Philp - questioned areas Gov. denied

1:53:16 ~ 1/9/2006 9:58:29 AM ~ Cook - reductions and approvals listed

1:53:42 ~ 1/9/2006 9:58:55 AM ~ Simpson - Revolving loan funds?

1:54:10 ~ 1/9/2006 9:59:23 AM ~ Cook - no, these were continually funded. In process of reviewing first loan to revitalize downtown.

1:54:57 ~ 1/9/2006 10:00:10 AM ~ Nicholas - program designed to help, asked for report on how many requests received

1:55:56 ~ 1/9/2006 10:01:08 AM ~ Cook, p. 42 Corrected copy, correct amount

1:56:38 ~ 1/9/2006 10:01:51 AM ~ Cook pg. 45 Consumer Health specialists denied by Gov.

1:56:58 ~ 1/9/2006 10:02:11 AM ~ Simpson - why denied? Constituent concern about access to inspections, is #4 in priority list

1:57:44 ~ 1/9/2006 10:02:57 AM ~ Cook - Gov. was made aware, was a numbers game in personal opinion.

1:58:18 ~ 1/9/2006 10:03:31 AM ~ Dean Finkenbinder, director of Consumer Health, concerned not to get 2 additional positions, handout given of inspections, since 1994 no increase except in part time.  Inspections have increased, USDA required "equal to" plan to theirs.  We must be in plants every day in process.  Spread thinly, cannot do other inspections.

2:01:09 ~ 1/9/2006 10:06:22 AM ~ Simpson, Big Horn Basin seeing increase, do you see statewide?

2:01:40 ~ 1/9/2006 10:06:52 AM ~ Finkenbinder - yes, also have 5 additional plants,

2:02:30 ~ 1/9/2006 10:07:43 AM ~ Meuli - Fed. funds for inspection of meat plants?

2:03:03 ~ 1/9/2006 10:08:16 AM ~ Finkenbinder - yes

2:03:13 ~ 1/9/2006 10:08:26 AM ~ Meuli - how many federal meat plants?

2:03:25 ~ 1/9/2006 10:08:38 AM ~ Finkenbinder- no federal but have 31 state, + 5 additional plants coming on line

2:03:59 ~ 1/9/2006 10:09:12 AM ~ Meuli - 5 yr. increase in plants?

2:04:11 ~ 1/9/2006 10:09:24 AM ~ Finkenbinder - about 12, referenced Handout # 46

2:04:58 ~ 1/9/2006 10:10:11 AM ~ Meuli - meat inspectors only?

2:05:11 ~ 1/9/2006 10:10:24 AM ~ Finkenbinder - none only meat, must do all types

2:05:32 ~ 1/9/2006 10:10:45 AM ~ Meuli - possiblility inspections be done by local health depts?

2:06:04 ~ 1/9/2006 10:11:17 AM ~ Finkenbinder - only 1

2:06:16 ~ 1/9/2006 10:11:29 AM ~ Meuli - train that person to do inspections?

2:06:31 ~ 1/9/2006 10:11:44 AM ~ Finkenbinder - he doesn't have time to do inspections?

2:06:50 ~ 1/9/2006 10:12:03 AM ~ Simpson - overlap in 6  counties, do these have time to do meat inspections?  Substantiation?

2:07:23 ~ 1/9/2006 10:12:36 AM ~ Finkenbinder - local dept. probably won't be able, as they are employee strapped, but do not have info.

2:07:55 ~ 1/9/2006 10:13:07 AM ~ Cook can get additional information

2:08:38 ~ 1/9/2006 10:13:51 AM ~

2:08:47 ~ 1/9/2006 10:14:00 AM ~ Cook - do not have cost of training new inspectors with me. Can provide

2:09:21 ~ 1/9/2006 10:14:34 AM ~ Job- handout gap between required and completed inspections.  Enough?

2:09:49 ~ 1/9/2006 10:15:02 AM ~ Finkenbinder - not enough, but would help

2:10:04 ~ 1/9/2006 10:15:17 AM ~ Job - how many really needed?

2:10:15 ~ 1/9/2006 10:15:28 AM ~ Finkenbinder - would need 6 to really complete.

2:10:35 ~ 1/9/2006 10:15:48 AM ~ Anderson - economy could be impeded by not being able to provide timely inspections?

2:11:12 ~ 1/9/2006 10:16:24 AM ~ Finkenbinder - yes, could not do restaurant inspections

2:11:35 ~ 1/9/2006 10:16:48 AM ~ Anderson - Business Council be venue to assess affect of?

2:12:09 ~ 1/9/2006 10:17:22 AM ~ Finkenbinder - WBS good place to start.  I will provide 3 - 6 inspector documentation.

2:12:43 ~ 1/9/2006 10:17:56 AM ~ Meuli - 6 to do full gamut of inspections?

2:12:56 ~ 1/9/2006 10:18:09 AM ~ Finkenbinder - yes

2:13:06 ~ 1/9/2006 10:18:19 AM ~ Cook, priority #2, position #76 part time to full-time

2:13:54 ~ 1/9/2006 10:19:07 AM ~ Cook- #3 and #4 both approved by Gov, travel adjustments

2:14:15 ~ 1/9/2006 10:19:28 AM ~ Cook - amended copy.

2:15:12 ~ 1/9/2006 10:20:25 AM ~ Philp - scale, gas meter inspections?

2:15:45 ~ 1/9/2006 10:20:58 AM ~ Cook - denial by Gov. for admin. specialist on #2 denied

2:16:47 ~ 1/9/2006 10:22:00 AM ~ Warren -

2:16:54 ~ 1/9/2006 10:22:07 AM ~ Hank Uhden no increase in staff, workload and variety of inspections

2:18:11 ~ 1/9/2006 10:23:24 AM ~ Philp - Evidence of number of inspections

2:18:30 ~ 1/9/2006 10:23:43 AM ~ Uhden, info will be provided

2:18:40 ~ 1/9/2006 10:23:53 AM ~ Cook - p. 59 approved travel $8,100

2:19:18 ~ 1/9/2006 10:24:31 AM ~ Meuli - include new position which was denied?

2:19:52 ~ 1/9/2006 10:25:05 AM ~ Cook, no.  Specialty  vehicles owned by dept. recalibration of strandards not adequate in past, escalating costs

2:21:09 ~ 1/9/2006 10:26:21 AM ~ Cook,  $30,000 request  purchase samples to check

2:22:23 ~ 1/9/2006 10:27:36 AM ~ Etchepere - test small bags of flower/veg. seeds purchased by public

2:22:44 ~ 1/9/2006 10:27:57 AM ~ Cook #7 on p. 61 portable octane tester - can test in field

2:23:41 ~ 1/9/2006 10:28:53 AM ~ Philp - inaccurate readings?

2:23:52 ~ 1/9/2006 10:29:05 AM ~ Uhden - largest need is from complaint, is expensive to find final

2:24:19 ~ 1/9/2006 10:29:32 AM ~ Philp - outcome of sample testing?

2:24:35 ~ 1/9/2006 10:29:48 AM ~ Uhden - will get info.

2:24:46 ~ 1/9/2006 10:29:59 AM ~ Cook, p. 62 Gov. denied weights & measures, work with A&I

2:25:26 ~ 1/9/2006 10:30:39 AM ~ Hines - how does this tie in?  Major pmts.

2:25:47 ~ 1/9/2006 10:31:00 AM ~ Cook - MVMS increase , next budget on p. 68 part time to f-time was approved by gov.

2:26:35 ~ 1/9/2006 10:31:48 AM ~ Cook

2:27:09 ~ 1/9/2006 10:32:22 AM ~ Meuli - Bovine encephalitis, reliable

2:27:32 ~ 1/9/2006 10:32:45 AM ~ Ken McMillen, manager of Analytical Lab in Laramie, spot checking will be for meat protein.

2:28:16 ~ 1/9/2006 10:33:28 AM ~ Meuli - how reliable is equipment to test?

2:28:40 ~ 1/9/2006 10:33:53 AM ~ McMillen - until actually begin, won't be able to tell

2:29:14 ~ 1/9/2006 10:34:27 AM ~ Etchepere - not actually testing for DSE, are testing to ensure there is not animal protein in the feed., these tests are fairly accurate.  This is current requirement.

2:30:11 ~ 1/9/2006 10:35:24 AM ~ Cook, p. 70 additional lab. scientist, denied

2:30:30 ~ 1/9/2006 10:35:43 AM ~ Philp - what would this employee do?

2:30:49 ~ 1/9/2006 10:36:01 AM ~ McMillen - work in very  busy lab

2:31:25 ~ 1/9/2006 10:36:38 AM ~ Anderson - relationship between these positons?

2:31:40 ~ 1/9/2006 10:36:52 AM ~ McMillen - some relationship

2:31:58 ~ 1/9/2006 10:37:11 AM ~ Cook #4 Lab supplies, now supplies must be one-time not washed and reused.   Gov. rec. 1/2 of request

2:32:55 ~ 1/9/2006 10:38:08 AM ~ Cook - MVMS final 2

2:33:09 ~ 1/9/2006 10:38:22 AM ~ Cook p.77 Seed Lab - Gov. ok

2:33:55 ~ 1/9/2006 10:39:08 AM ~ Meuli - move in lab supposed to save $, not reflected

2:34:26 ~ 1/9/2006 10:39:39 AM ~ Etchepere-UW gave raises,could not cover in Ag - we are a pass through agency

2:35:35 ~ 1/9/2006 10:40:48 AM ~ Simpson - workload is increasing, detail?

2:35:55 ~ 1/9/2006 10:41:08 AM ~ Etchepere- very substantial increase, a bill is coming forward to enlarge bean testing facility.  MT is cutting back on tests.  Will provide from annual report data requested.

2:37:03 ~ 1/9/2006 10:42:16 AM ~ Job- Business is growing, increase in revenue?

2:37:21 ~ 1/9/2006 10:42:34 AM ~ Etchepere-yes, to increase fees must go thru hearing process, legislation requires, problems caused, probably will ask Legislature to change this.

2:38:17 ~ 1/9/2006 10:43:30 AM ~ Case-provide schedule of fees charged and services, plus comparison of fees to Montana?

2:38:57 ~ 1/9/2006 10:44:09 AM ~ Etchepere-will provide

2:39:05 ~ 1/9/2006 10:44:18 AM ~ Cook p. 90 grain request part-time to full-time position, Gov. approved

2:40:27 ~ 1/9/2006 10:45:40 AM ~ Cook - 95 Animal Damage -Gov. rec. $300,000 of total.

2:41:09 ~ 1/9/2006 10:46:22 AM ~ Philp - annual rep. - summarize 1 pg. projects that have been funded/

2:41:46 ~ 1/9/2006 10:46:59 AM ~ Dept. - yes

2:42:20 ~ 1/9/2006 10:47:33 AM ~ Meuli - other funding in other depts.

2:42:46 ~ 1/9/2006 10:47:59 AM ~ Cook - G&F, try to keep  funding separate

2:43:11 ~ 1/9/2006 10:48:23 AM ~ Simpson p. 94 list

2:43:27 ~ 1/9/2006 10:48:40 AM ~ Berger-how cope with shortfall of Gov. denial of $200,000

2:44:05 ~ 1/9/2006 10:49:18 AM ~ Etchepere - gov. said to try to see how it works.

2:44:21 ~ 1/9/2006 10:49:34 AM ~ Jorgensen-?

2:44:40 ~ 1/9/2006 10:49:53 AM ~ Cook revenue from predator management stamp.  G&F provides $100,000, landowner coupons, predator board, various funding coming into program

2:45:51 ~ 1/9/2006 10:51:04 AM ~ Jorgensen  - is a shortfall

2:46:07 ~ 1/9/2006 10:51:20 AM ~ Etchepere still required, grow slowly, can cover needs with $300,000

2:47:04 ~ 1/9/2006 10:52:17 AM ~ Job-was to become self-sufficient, has not happened

2:47:32 ~ 1/9/2006 10:52:45 AM ~ Cook - 107  Gov. recommended approval of #1. #2 contractural services ongoing out in field - Gov. Rec. approval. #3 Soil Moisture sensors-some need replacement, Gov. approved.

2:49:46 ~ 1/9/2006 10:54:59 AM ~ Meuli ? funding for travel Natural Resource Division

2:50:19 ~ 1/9/2006 10:55:32 AM ~

2:50:58 ~ 1/9/2006 10:56:11 AM ~ Cook - located in Cheyenne, daily request for vehicles.  State Fair Budget

2:52:12 ~ 1/9/2006 10:57:25 AM ~ Petersen Professional Services?

2:52:23 ~ 1/9/2006 10:57:36 AM ~ Cook - variety within 0900 series for State Fair, judges, guards, etc.

2:52:51 ~ 1/9/2006 10:58:04 AM ~ Cook #2 denied by Gov.

2:53:14 ~ 1/9/2006 10:58:27 AM ~ Philp -  what priority on dept. list?

2:53:28 ~ 1/9/2006 10:58:41 AM ~ Cook - #5

2:53:41 ~ 1/9/2006 10:58:54 AM ~ Kosner, director of state fair, more effective in using year round facilities, more overtime and stress on staff.  Requesting additional staff.

2:54:25 ~ 1/9/2006 10:59:38 AM ~ Nicholas - did Gov. see priority list?

2:54:47 ~ 1/9/2006 10:59:59 AM ~ Cook - yes.

2:54:51 ~ 1/9/2006 11:00:04 AM ~ Cook #3 vechicles & equipment, Gov. allowed 1/2 of request

2:56:14 ~ 1/9/2006 11:01:27 AM ~ Cook - #2 dept. priority request equine center, Gov. willing to further discuss

2:56:57 ~ 1/9/2006 11:02:09 AM ~ Anderson - considerable offer to participate by Converse County, will provide

2:57:26 ~ 1/9/2006 11:02:39 AM ~ Philp architectural drasings available?

2:57:49 ~ 1/9/2006 11:03:02 AM ~ Kosner - will provide

2:57:59 ~ 1/9/2006 11:03:12 AM ~ Philp - go thru Capital Facility?

2:58:17 ~ 1/9/2006 11:03:30 AM ~ Kosner - yes

2:58:23 ~ 1/9/2006 11:03:36 AM ~ Petersen

2:58:27 ~ 1/9/2006 11:03:40 AM ~ Petersen adequate interest in equine facility?

2:58:55 ~ 1/9/2006 11:04:07 AM ~ Kosner - Yes, indoor facilities continuously used.  Strenthen off season usage

2:59:31 ~ 1/9/2006 11:04:44 AM ~ Nicholas would like to see review of costs, attendance at fair, etc.

3:00:03 ~ 1/9/2006 11:05:16 AM ~ Kosner - 47,000 usage try to be innovative, give away free attendance, 8-9% of state population

3:01:14 ~ 1/9/2006 11:06:27 AM ~ Simpson - if state funds are put toward an equine facility, how will it benefit state?

3:01:35 ~ 1/9/2006 11:06:48 AM ~ Kosner - weather breaks, begin usage, facility gives protection from elements, quota out kids not good, can grow both fair and off season usage

3:02:52 ~ 1/9/2006 11:08:05 AM ~ Simpson - how many facilities could seat 1,000 for an equine event?

3:03:17 ~ 1/9/2006 11:08:30 AM ~ Kosner - permanent seating in Casper, etc. are at 2,000.  We chose to use portable seating for flexibility.

3:03:50 ~ 1/9/2006 11:09:03 AM ~ Jorgensen -

3:04:10 ~ 1/9/2006 11:09:23 AM ~ Kosner - compare facility to facility.  Casper facilities are maxed out.  Torrington use increasing.  People don't want to have more fees assessed.

3:05:16 ~ 1/9/2006 11:10:29 AM ~ Cook - Stalling facility received both Facilities and Gov. approval

3:06:17 ~ 1/9/2006 11:11:29 AM ~ Kosner-more stalls would expand into other usage

3:06:43 ~ 1/9/2006 11:11:56 AM ~ Philp requested visual

3:07:05 ~ 1/9/2006 11:12:18 AM ~ Kosner - will provide

3:07:14 ~ 1/9/2006 11:12:27 AM ~ Meuli - Dean Finkenbinder?  How many egg producers in WY

3:07:39 ~ 1/9/2006 11:12:52 AM ~ Finkenbinder - do inspect all dairies in state, approx. 35 dairies

3:08:07 ~ 1/9/2006 11:13:20 AM ~ Meuli - once per year?

3:08:23 ~ 1/9/2006 11:13:36 AM ~ Finkenbinder - 2 times per year

3:08:35 ~ 1/9/2006 11:13:48 AM ~ Meuli lose fed. funds?

3:08:46 ~ 1/9/2006 11:13:58 AM ~ Finkenbinder could lose ff,

3:09:13 ~ 1/9/2006 11:14:26 AM ~ Meuli - if daycare, pool inspections, etc. could be moved to Dept. Health, relieve?

3:09:55 ~ 1/9/2006 11:15:08 AM ~ Finkenbinder - yes

3:10:02 ~ 1/9/2006 11:15:15 AM ~ Petersen - appreciate discussion denied - rationality of 6?

3:10:41 ~ 1/9/2006 11:15:54 AM ~ Cook - Gov. clearly denied.  Internal process eliminated from 6 to 2

3:11:30 ~ 1/9/2006 11:16:43 AM ~ Petersen - good inspections with 2?

3:11:50 ~ 1/9/2006 11:17:03 AM ~ Etchepere - would go a long way, self inspecting mechanism being implemented where appropriate.  We did well on last fed. inspection

3:13:53 ~ 1/9/2006 11:19:06 AM ~ Meuli thanks for chart - total establishments?  Want to compare what is being done by local health depts.

3:15:15 ~ 1/9/2006 11:20:28 AM ~ Hines - Where did requirements come from as to how many inspections are required?

3:15:54 ~ 1/9/2006 11:21:07 AM ~ Finkenbinder - explained statute regulations for various inspections.

3:16:57 ~ 1/9/2006 11:22:10 AM ~ Hines - meat inspection plants have most requirements.  Don't recall putting this into statutes.

3:17:48 ~ 1/9/2006 11:23:01 AM ~ Finkenbinder - Federal Code of Regulations set requirements.

3:18:22 ~ 1/9/2006 11:23:35 AM ~ Nicholas - Priority sheet  How ranked?  MainStreet one of last priorities

3:19:09 ~ 1/9/2006 11:24:22 AM ~ Etchepere after each dept. evaluated, we examine most critical issues.  All depts. have MVMS, a has to have item. Low priority because it will be needed by all depts.  Address most cost effective use and how to best serve constituents.  Other priorities explained - have requested 3 times for the Consumer Health positions.

3:23:10 ~ 1/9/2006 11:28:23 AM ~ Anderson - JR1265 handout in support of Equine Center submitted to JAC

3:23:46 ~ 1/9/2006 11:28:59 AM ~ Simpson - inspector allows meat to be stamped as state inspected meat.  Who determines?

3:25:22 ~ 1/9/2006 11:30:35 AM ~ Philp - Thank you very much. Resume at 1:00

3:26:10 ~ 1/9/2006 11:31:20 AM ~ Pause

3:26:10 ~ 1/9/2006 1:03:25 PM ~ Resume

3:26:24 ~ 1/9/2006 1:03:40 PM ~ 039 - Wildlife Natural Resources Trust- Mike Baker is sitting in for Delaine Roberts. Bob Budd is our Ex. Director.  Office is going to be in Riverton, 1 block off main street.    Baker - We have no money available to us until July because the trust will not be paying until then.  That's an overview of where we are.  23rd December comments were closed.    There is life after legislature.   Thebudget is on pg. 8.  We arrived at this in gov. office.  Did not have much opportunity to discuss just with the board.  Gov is rec. 1.5 mil to be put into fund.  It will be available this next bien to spend.  Gov is rec. that $33mil to be put into trust fund.  We have had one donation so far.  Standard budget is just db of what was put in last year.

3:36:28 ~ 1/9/2006 1:13:43 PM ~ Philp - pg. 8 on gov. changes -

3:36:58 ~ 1/9/2006 1:14:14 PM ~ Baker - Originally it was to come out of the BRA, but we

3:38:22 ~ 1/9/2006 1:15:38 PM ~ McVey- pg. 7 - Don't usually use BRA for a continuous funding source.  Any inc. that has been generated will be availabe for the board when they start making allocations.

3:39:38 ~ 1/9/2006 1:16:53 PM ~ Simpson - exp. of req.  --Have you rec. any applications yet?

3:40:16 ~ 1/9/2006 1:17:32 PM ~ Budd - There are a number of diff. entities that have talked to me, but we don't have any definite ones yet.  The # of projects that we anticipate are in the hundreds.

3:42:02 ~ 1/9/2006 1:19:18 PM ~ Simpson - Do you have data base that we could see so we know that is being asked for.??

3:42:51 ~ 1/9/2006 1:20:06 PM ~ Budd - As we get into the proposals we will let you see what we have been getting.  Hopefully by the time the session starts we will have a presentation for you.

3:44:15 ~ 1/9/2006 1:21:31 PM ~ Baker - I have been approached by people in  my district of ideas that they have for their property.   All of us represent a judicial district.  I think the ones in my district could spend all of what you allocated.

3:46:01 ~ 1/9/2006 1:23:17 PM ~ Petersen - How long before this entity will be completely functional ??

3:46:24 ~ 1/9/2006 1:23:39 PM ~ Baker - I think that by this summer we can start funding the project,  In July board meeting we should start this project.

3:47:38 ~ 1/9/2006 1:24:54 PM ~ Petersen - How do people get your attention?

3:47:53 ~ 1/9/2006 1:25:09 PM ~ Baker - We have an office   phone no. 307-856-4665,   500 E. Fremont, Riverton, WY 82501

3:49:40 ~ 1/9/2006 1:26:56 PM ~ Anderson - How do you view the applications?

3:49:58 ~ 1/9/2006 1:27:14 PM ~ Baker - We need to be able to document the work.  We are attempting to put in force - process that we have- people need to keep track for us and keep us informed.  Entity is professional enough to report to us.  It will be in the contract.  Will have variance of projects and we need to have follow-up- may need really long reporting process.

3:53:08 ~ 1/9/2006 1:30:24 PM ~ Warren - Gov. proposal of 1.5 mil- where did he get this amount??  Reason for that particular amount?

3:53:42 ~ 1/9/2006 1:30:58 PM ~ Budd - There is a great demand to get projects up and running.  If we put 35mil in now would have to wait until another yr to use it.  We need to get these projects going.

3:55:20 ~ 1/9/2006 1:32:35 PM ~ Philp - How did you come up with 35 mil figure??

3:55:34 ~ 1/9/2006 1:32:50 PM ~ Baker - Board didn't take any formal action to come up with amt.  Just back and forth with diff. ones.

3:56:26 ~ 1/9/2006 1:33:42 PM ~ Budd - 35 mil, I think, is trying to find a reasonalble amount.  It is an opportunity for people to see what we get for projects.

3:59:01 ~ 1/9/2006 1:36:17 PM ~ Case - Could board send us a letter to let us know  that you support this?  Maybe you will ask for more???

4:00:12 ~ 1/9/2006 1:37:28 PM ~ Baker- We want to do this responsibly.

4:00:31 ~ 1/9/2006 1:37:46 PM ~ Case - letter would be sufficient -  appreciate your candor.

4:00:59 ~ 1/9/2006 1:38:14 PM ~ Simpson - No formal req. for the excep. req.?

4:01:50 ~ 1/9/2006 1:39:06 PM ~ McVey - I don't know of any really.  Unless there are not normal here.

4:02:48 ~ 1/9/2006 1:40:04 PM ~ Simpson - how often does this happen where we don't have a real board and they ask for an exception req.  ???

4:03:56 ~ 1/9/2006 1:41:12 PM ~ McVey - this is a unique circumstance.  This is a gov budget because the Ex Dir was not hired until recently.

4:05:31 ~ 1/9/2006 1:42:46 PM ~ Baker - we knew that we were under the gun and we were hurrying so that we could get the budget in before the deadline.  Dif. board members were consulted before the budget was actually submitted.

4:07:30 ~ 1/9/2006 1:44:45 PM ~ Pause

4:07:30 ~ 1/9/2006 1:44:52 PM ~ Stop Recording

4:07:30 ~ 1/9/2006 1:55:48 PM ~ Start Recording

4:07:37 ~ 1/9/2006 1:55:55 PM ~ Department of Transportation - John Cox - First time I have presented a budget for you.  Kevin Hibbard, budget officer,  Delbert McOmie, engineer,   Past yr. our mission statement was shortened -  pg. 6 of budget document -  Several of agencies were inc. into our agency - not just highway dept.    It is costing more to administer the driver license program.  We suggest that we have an interim study to see if we need to ask for an inc.

4:13:59 ~ 1/9/2006 2:02:17 PM ~ Jim O'Connor - the CDL license are for 4 yrs.  - others are 3 yrs.

4:14:26 ~ 1/9/2006 2:02:44 PM ~ Warren - Do other states have statutory price?

4:15:07 ~ 1/9/2006 2:03:25 PM ~ Cox - that will be one of the things that we do in interim study.    Committee bill out of last session died in rules committee.  We need to have 15 more troopers to keep state safer.    pg. 78 - asking for additional duty pay for troopers -

4:17:49 ~ 1/9/2006 2:06:07 PM ~ Anderson- what is gen pay comparison for other law enforcement in state to troopers??

4:18:50 ~ 1/9/2006 2:07:08 PM ~ Cox - begin pay for troopers was lot less than other WY state employees.  We have made some progress there. pg 99 - Des. reflective of WY/Montana port of Entry - Port of Sheridan - Cost sharing between states.

4:21:25 ~ 1/9/2006 2:09:43 PM ~ Hines - System they use at ports

4:21:53 ~ 1/9/2006 2:10:11 PM ~ Cox - have prepass technologies so that trucks don't have to stop.  The new port is so much better than the old one.

4:23:07 ~ 1/9/2006 2:11:25 PM ~ Sam Powell - This port has really been woking well.  This for the many prequalified carriers that come through WY often.  It is not new to WY, but new to Sheridan.   It allows us to concentrate on the trucks that don't always do things right.  We can work more w/ them when we don't have to stop all trucks.

4:25:58 ~ 1/9/2006 2:14:16 PM ~ Anderson- What about Homeland Security?

4:27:05 ~ 1/9/2006 2:15:24 PM ~ Cox - yes, we are more concerned about safety issues

4:27:22 ~ 1/9/2006 2:15:40 PM ~ Petersen - W/ trucks on I-80 what about safety?

4:28:11 ~ 1/9/2006 2:16:29 PM ~ Powell- this prepass is one of the things where the trucks have to have inspection CBS yearly inspection.

4:29:16 ~ 1/9/2006 2:17:34 PM ~ Philp- on trucks do they have to come into ports if they have prepass??

4:29:51 ~ 1/9/2006 2:18:09 PM ~ Powell- they have this in their display if they are approved and if they don't stop then the trooper will direct them to come back if they aren't approved.  In order to have prepass they have to meet certain criteria.

4:31:31 ~ 1/9/2006 2:19:49 PM ~ Meuli- are there fees that we get even w/ the prepass??

4:31:50 ~ 1/9/2006 2:20:08 PM ~ Powell - Yes

4:31:58 ~ 1/9/2006 2:20:16 PM ~ Hines - Can you give me what revenue streams you have?

4:33:15 ~ 1/9/2006 2:21:34 PM ~ Hibbard - License fees - trucks and vehicle fees

4:34:04 ~ 1/9/2006 2:22:22 PM ~ Cox - pg. 113 - WYOLINK project -

4:35:26 ~ 1/9/2006 2:23:44 PM ~ Hibbard - Tim - The local communities can opt in or opt out.

4:38:29 ~ 1/9/2006 2:26:47 PM ~ Jorgensen - Since the state is paying the bill why should you give them the option.

4:39:03 ~ 1/9/2006 2:27:21 PM ~ Tim Hibbard - We tried to make it very attractive and most of the communities are in this system.

4:40:16 ~ 1/9/2006 2:28:34 PM ~ Hines - you only have 7 posotions and now you are asking for 3 more.  Why so many?

4:40:49 ~ 1/9/2006 2:29:07 PM ~ Tim Hibbard - That was the old Selex employees.  As we beef up for Wyolink we need more people.

4:42:01 ~ 1/9/2006 2:30:19 PM ~ Brian Hibbard - we have had 3 diff. req. for money for  this.  The dept of transportation has been footing entire admin. of this project.  Now we are asking for some more monies.

4:49:28 ~ 1/9/2006 2:37:46 PM ~ Narva - To req. them all to do this

4:50:45 ~ 1/9/2006 2:39:03 PM ~ Anderson - W/ hand signals, etc.  Where are we in this w/ other agencies?

4:51:33 ~ 1/9/2006 2:39:52 PM ~ Cox - We have had numerous requests from other agencies to use the frequencies and I'm sure we will continue to have more.

4:53:34 ~ 1/9/2006 2:41:52 PM ~

4:53:52 ~ 1/9/2006 2:42:10 PM ~ Hines - gen fund monies - what used for???

4:54:15 ~ 1/9/2006 2:42:33 PM ~ K. Hibbard -

4:54:45 ~ 1/9/2006 2:43:03 PM ~ Hines - Some counties donate more than others---

4:55:59 ~ 1/9/2006 2:44:17 PM ~ Warren - what is the time line until we can expect to have all up and running???

4:56:59 ~ 1/9/2006 2:45:17 PM ~ T Hibbard - 2007 is the time for it to be up and running.

4:59:05 ~ 1/9/2006 2:47:24 PM ~ Cox - We decided not to use the provider at the Cheyenne airport and we are trying to secure a permanent structure for our planes.  We are working on that now.  90% of planes use is from Cheyenne.  Have had to use some in Laramie and the Nat. Guard.

5:03:23 ~ 1/9/2006 2:51:41 PM ~ Case -

5:03:50 ~ 1/9/2006 2:52:09 PM ~ Cox - A full blown facility - might want to add administrative facilities later - would build so that we could add on.

5:04:51 ~ 1/9/2006 2:53:09 PM ~ Case - Where are you admin officies housed now?

5:05:07 ~ 1/9/2006 2:53:25 PM ~ Cox - Bldg at the airport, might put them together later on.  Most concern is for us safety.

5:06:07 ~ 1/9/2006 2:54:25 PM ~ Hines - 750K what for??

5:06:34 ~ 1/9/2006 2:54:52 PM ~ K Hibbard - That is only to fund that for the building.  We are to lease now for hangar facility .  See explanation on pg. 121.

5:08:39 ~ 1/9/2006 2:56:57 PM ~ Cox - It is for a 20 yr lease w/ airport , but option to buy.

5:09:15 ~ 1/9/2006 2:57:33 PM ~ Hines - Are you paying for bldg or asking for money that you are not going to use.

5:09:54 ~ 1/9/2006 2:58:12 PM ~ K. Hibbard - We will be leasing, but with option to buy is in the contract.  Bond overide could be avoided if we buy.  If look for piece of property to rent it would be decidedly reasonable.

5:12:14 ~ 1/9/2006 3:00:32 PM ~ Cox - sq. ft amt. 19K for hangar

5:12:41 ~ 1/9/2006 3:00:59 PM ~ Simpson - How long before you can exercise your option to buy?

5:13:10 ~ 1/9/2006 3:01:28 PM ~ K. Hibbard - Out dept. does not have that much to build it now.  We need to get this going now because we have no place for the state's planes.

5:14:14 ~ 1/9/2006 3:02:32 PM ~ Anderson - In looking at value of aircraft, amt of insurance rental versus owner, etc???

5:15:49 ~ 1/9/2006 3:04:07 PM ~ Shelly Reems - If we own it is better .  With 911 they said that we needed a better area for planes. $20mil is value for our planes.

5:18:49 ~ 1/9/2006 3:07:07 PM ~ Case - It seems that it is costing much more than necessary to have it built and then exercise the lease option.  Why not built it yourself?

5:19:50 ~ 1/9/2006 3:08:08 PM ~ K Hibbard - We will take possesion of it in October so we can dodge some of these costs.

5:20:49 ~ 1/9/2006 3:09:07 PM ~ Case - This is a way out of not having to build it ourselves.

5:21:46 ~ 1/9/2006 3:10:04 PM ~ Cox - We were faced w/ no where to go.  We needed to continue flight operation out of state ,

5:24:05 ~ 1/9/2006 3:12:23 PM ~ Jorgensen - Nat. Guard is going to move some to F E Warren , could you not use some of their space?

5:26:03 ~ 1/9/2006 3:14:21 PM ~ Reems - The Air Force is going to expand & use that space.

5:28:39 ~ 1/9/2006 3:16:57 PM ~ Simpson - What would it cost you to get out of this deal and build it yourselves?

5:29:32 ~ 1/9/2006 3:17:50 PM ~ Cox - I think that you are skeptical about this.  We feel that we need to do this now to protect our fleet.

5:32:29 ~ 1/9/2006 3:20:47 PM ~ Joannides - Chair of transportation commission - Safety, security, etc. was the consideration.  It has been the intent all the time to purchase this facility as soon as we take possesion when completed.  The fuel savings will be great also.  We will have our own fuel facitility - a savings of $20K a month.  The commission is entirely behind this.  This is the best that we can do now.

5:36:19 ~ 1/9/2006 3:24:37 PM ~ K Hibbard - spread sheet - I'll walk you through - need to have more copies.

5:37:41 ~ 1/9/2006 3:26:00 PM ~ Cox - p. 143 - This is one-time gen funds for maintnance of multi-lane highway system.  Reason did not put multi-lane highways -  Gov is fully aware

5:39:37 ~ 1/9/2006 3:27:55 PM ~ Jorgensen- Assuming that there are other multi-lane monies coming how would you prioritize this.?

5:40:15 ~ 1/9/2006 3:28:33 PM ~ Cox - One in the bills??   We need to use this for existing highways

5:41:25 ~ 1/9/2006 3:29:43 PM ~ Jorgensen - What does multi-lane desigination do ??

5:42:31 ~ 1/9/2006 3:30:49 PM ~ McOmie - There are projects that will have to be rearranged with upcoming projects. Some of roads are currently in our list now, but they have to be on list, etc.

5:46:24 ~ 1/9/2006 3:34:42 PM ~ Jones - You are seeing all of the new schools being built and # of contractors are inc. their cost.  Are you seing the same situation with highways??

5:47:59 ~ 1/9/2006 3:36:16 PM ~ Pause

5:47:59 ~ 1/9/2006 4:00:33 PM ~ Resume

5:47:59 ~ 1/9/2006 4:00:33 PM ~ McOmie - We have seen 100% inc. in cost in last 5 yrs so we are not doing as many projects, but it is costing us still lots of money.

5:48:07 ~ 1/9/2006 4:00:41 PM ~ Philp - finish discussion on additional appropriation for highway construction

5:48:51 ~ 1/9/2006 4:01:25 PM ~ Nicholas - is there a  priority list for all projects? Bring to us?

5:49:50 ~ 1/9/2006 4:02:24 PM ~ McOmie - 2 lists, prioritized by next 6  years, another for 15-20 year future planning, p. 149 of budget book gives $155,164,378 prioritized list, will give short list to JAC within 2 days

5:52:24 ~ 1/9/2006 4:04:58 PM ~ Nicholas, is money based on safety and need, Hwy 287 referenced?

5:53:18 ~ 1/9/2006 4:05:52 PM ~ McOmie -287 is in 6 year plan, 2008.  Multi-lane initiative different list.  Safety is only 1 statistic examined.

5:54:41 ~ 1/9/2006 4:07:15 PM ~ Nicholas, if 10 projects are ready to go, why not do them and free up?

5:55:48 ~ 1/9/2006 4:08:22 PM ~ McOmie - asking for $106b to clear up backlog within next 6 years.

5:56:39 ~ 1/9/2006 4:09:13 PM ~ Nicholas, please provide list

5:57:06 ~ 1/9/2006 4:09:40 PM ~ McOmie will be happy to do this

5:57:34 ~ 1/9/2006 4:10:08 PM ~ Petersen - all in final design?  Concept?

5:57:49 ~ 1/9/2006 4:10:23 PM ~ McOmie - all in concept, not started final design.  2-3 projects are moved back due to inflation.

5:58:39 ~ 1/9/2006 4:11:13 PM ~ Petersen - total setting on shelf final designed but

5:59:02 ~ 1/9/2006 4:11:36 PM ~ McOmie - $140m ready to go

5:59:21 ~ 1/9/2006 4:11:55 PM ~ Philp - go back to exception requests

5:59:42 ~ 1/9/2006 4:12:16 PM ~ Cox last item reauthorization

6:00:17 ~ 1/9/2006 4:12:52 PM ~ Hibbard - 8 yrs, ago reauthorization, it took us 2 additonal years to get.  Want $100m, increase from $60m to $100m

6:01:46 ~ 1/9/2006 4:14:20 PM ~ Hines - session laws?

6:01:54 ~ 1/9/2006 4:14:28 PM ~ Hibbard read $60m authorization from 2004

6:02:29 ~ 1/9/2006 4:15:03 PM ~ Sommers - is in budget book, Section 300

6:02:45 ~ 1/9/2006 4:15:19 PM ~ Philp - limit now?

6:02:53 ~ 1/9/2006 4:15:28 PM ~ Nicholas - have you talked to the State Trasurer?

6:03:26 ~ 1/9/2006 4:16:00 PM ~ Hibbard - originally done this way

6:03:42 ~ 1/9/2006 4:16:16 PM ~ Nicholas - availability for cash draw?

6:04:00 ~ 1/9/2006 4:16:34 PM ~ Hibbard - not done to date, likely won't have to due to interim processes given by fed. govt.  Slim possiblility, but is possible.

6:05:02 ~ 1/9/2006 4:17:36 PM ~ Philp - exception requests pg.11

6:05:30 ~ 1/9/2006 4:18:05 PM ~ Hibbard - fuel operation and building operation prices, 25% quoted in Cheyenne paper, 40% increase expected in Feb.  Also gas in Highway Patrol, these are highway funds.

6:07:12 ~ 1/9/2006 4:19:46 PM ~ Hines - don't see a consistency in requests.

6:08:51 ~ 1/9/2006 4:21:25 PM ~ Hibbard, each request based upon actual exam. of actual

6:09:44 ~ 1/9/2006 4:22:19 PM ~ Hines - space rental?

6:09:54 ~ 1/9/2006 4:22:28 PM ~ Hibbard, Rawlins shop houses more than 1 agency/use.  Calculate each share

6:11:06 ~ 1/9/2006 4:23:40 PM ~ Hines - why not list as utilities, not space rental

6:11:52 ~ 1/9/2006 4:24:26 PM ~ Hibbard - could break out by buildings.  Have 13 other reports not shared with JAC today.

6:12:36 ~ 1/9/2006 4:25:11 PM ~ Anderson - flight fuel, other agencies fuel at common location, out of state, in state costs, how done?

6:13:27 ~ 1/9/2006 4:26:01 PM ~ Hibbard-provide fuel across state based upon %, 5% preference also affects, solicit bids annually, arrive at cost of fuel across state.

6:14:49 ~ 1/9/2006 4:27:23 PM ~ Cox - other questions?

6:15:32 ~ 1/9/2006 4:28:06 PM ~ Hibbard - Attorney General's only building occupancy, fuel for space rental.

6:16:15 ~ 1/9/2006 4:28:49 PM ~ Hibbard, p. 19 Internal Review. p.22 Public Affairs. p. 27 Support Services. p. 31 driver services,

6:19:37 ~ 1/9/2006 4:32:11 PM ~ Meuli - computer equipment - get CIO approval?

6:19:59 ~ 1/9/2006 4:32:33 PM ~ Hibbard - yes if over $75,000 request.  Revenue shortfall in dirver services.

6:20:50 ~ 1/9/2006 4:33:24 PM ~ Hibbard p. 41  Then p. 45 Human Resources is heavily involved in trooper recruitment

6:22:02 ~ 1/9/2006 4:34:36 PM ~ Hibbard - p.51 inserter replacement.  Statewide cost clearing p. 55. p.57 Management services. Always involved in reauthorization. p. 61 purchasing. p. 65 quality & customer services. p. 68 Fuel Tax Admin.

6:27:02 ~ 1/9/2006 4:39:36 PM ~ Philp - Norhtwestern police allocation model, response time unrealistic, applicable to WY

6:28:00 ~ 1/9/2006 4:40:35 PM ~ Cox - Northwest Univ. has model used.  State patrol work determines 20 min. response in Wy.  Not unrealistic

6:29:37 ~ 1/9/2006 4:42:12 PM ~ Philp - put patrol in wide spots in road?  Shoshoni and Casper, e.g.

6:30:10 ~ 1/9/2006 4:42:44 PM ~ Cox - not on all roads, average statewide

6:30:44 ~ 1/9/2006 4:43:19 PM ~ Philp - timewise?  Overtime, comp time?

6:31:04 ~ 1/9/2006 4:43:38 PM ~ Cox overtime

6:31:12 ~ 1/9/2006 4:43:46 PM ~ Philp requested info.

6:31:56 ~ 1/9/2006 4:44:30 PM ~ McVey - handout 34

6:32:06 ~ 1/9/2006 4:44:41 PM ~ Cox - ovetime vs. comp?

6:32:34 ~ 1/9/2006 4:45:08 PM ~ Hibbard - request for overtime, holiday, court detail, etc.  $3m per biennium for overtime

6:33:37 ~ 1/9/2006 4:46:11 PM ~ Philp - increasing?

6:33:44 ~ 1/9/2006 4:46:18 PM ~ Hibbard - time isn't increasing, but costs of wages and benefits are.

6:34:27 ~ 1/9/2006 4:47:01 PM ~ Philp - overtime on hourly basis?

6:34:36 ~ 1/9/2006 4:47:10 PM ~ Hibbard - hourly on time card

6:35:17 ~ 1/9/2006 4:47:51 PM ~ Cox 5% margin

6:36:06 ~ 1/9/2006 4:48:41 PM ~ Philp - hardship?

6:36:45 ~ 1/9/2006 4:49:20 PM ~ Powell - storms and overtime really take a toll. voluntary overtime DUI enforcement.  Troopers need time for selves.

6:38:33 ~ 1/9/2006 4:51:07 PM ~ Philp -over $3m

6:38:44 ~ 1/9/2006 4:51:18 PM ~ Powell - yes federally funded

6:39:01 ~ 1/9/2006 4:51:35 PM ~ Cox- 3 new troopers in 5 districts if increase 15.  Will make a difference in locales.

6:39:51 ~ 1/9/2006 4:52:25 PM ~ Philp - time represented in handout?

6:40:14 ~ 1/9/2006 4:52:49 PM ~ Hibbard will provide

6:40:23 ~ 1/9/2006 4:52:57 PM ~ Berger - can you find 15 qualified individuals, train and place in this biennium?

6:40:58 ~ 1/9/2006 4:53:32 PM ~ Cox - takes about 1 year, cyclical process - have been reasonably successful, yes.

6:42:08 ~ 1/9/2006 4:54:42 PM ~ Anderson - see SUV drivers also armed, how different

6:42:43 ~ 1/9/2006 4:55:17 PM ~ Powell - we have troopers assigned to motor carrier position, wear a black uniform, carry extra equipment necessitating SUV.  Can cover other duties as needed.

6:44:12 ~ 1/9/2006 4:56:47 PM ~ Hibbard p. 97 Radioactive waste FEMA. Ports of entry  p. 107. Employee Relocation on p. 107, 80% of value of home guaranteed.   Wyolink. 119 Aeronautics Admin. Spreadsheet  Handout 62, buy or lease facility - Airport Bd. wants 30% return on building, excessive, if buy facility, lease compared.

6:53:17 ~ 1/9/2006 5:05:51 PM ~ Nicholas - customary?

6:55:14 ~ 1/9/2006 5:07:48 PM ~ Hibbard - FAA explained 20 - 30 year use for life

6:55:45 ~ 1/9/2006 5:08:19 PM ~ Hibbard - Flight Safety increase, pg. 135 Air Service Enchancement standard budget and Business Council

6:57:57 ~ 1/9/2006 5:10:31 PM ~ Philp - What last biennium?

6:58:20 ~ 1/9/2006 5:10:54 PM ~ Hibbard $3m annual, standardized to $6m per biennium.

6:58:57 ~ 1/9/2006 5:11:32 PM ~ Jones - how much will be used as guarantees?

6:59:14 ~ 1/9/2006 5:11:48 PM ~ Hibbard -

6:59:45 ~ 1/9/2006 5:12:19 PM ~ Reems - $4m obligated in several projects, Casper and Cody.  March or April will see all obligated.

7:00:33 ~ 1/9/2006 5:13:07 PM ~ Jorgensen - WBC did substantial review

7:01:05 ~ 1/9/2006 5:13:39 PM ~ Reems will copy and distribute reports

7:01:18 ~ 1/9/2006 5:13:52 PM ~ Jorgensen - amt. allocated for Casper,?

7:01:42 ~ 1/9/2006 5:14:16 PM ~ Reems - SFunding $1.4, total $1.7

7:02:10 ~ 1/9/2006 5:14:44 PM ~ Jorgensen - ridership? Affect on other carriers

7:02:37 ~ 1/9/2006 5:15:12 PM ~ Reems - will get report to you.  Proven success run actually helped all of community and other carriers.  Regional carriers are in high demand. One flight a day can do good.

7:04:04 ~ 1/9/2006 5:16:38 PM ~ Hines - Passenger reports are in the back.  Booming economy, other reasons why entire state benefited.

7:05:14 ~ 1/9/2006 5:17:48 PM ~ Jones - how long should a revenue enhancement be in effect?

7:05:37 ~ 1/9/2006 5:18:11 PM ~ Reems - would not have been able to attract airlines without.  Some months have not paid anything.

7:06:33 ~ 1/9/2006 5:19:07 PM ~ Jones - only 1 year?

7:06:47 ~ 1/9/2006 5:19:21 PM ~ Reems - not all service providers, Jackson several years.

7:07:17 ~ 1/9/2006 5:19:51 PM ~ Meuli -

7:07:49 ~ 1/9/2006 5:20:23 PM ~ Warren - consumer perspective, Laramie expense of flight between Laramie and Denver twice as much as tickets from Denver to Boston, e.g.  Don't make quota because of costs.

7:09:12 ~ 1/9/2006 5:21:46 PM ~ Reems - private companies can charge what market will bear.  Must look at fair pricing in region, will try to encorporate into contracts.  Progress slow, but are seeing improvement as United out of bankruptcy.

7:10:54 ~ 1/9/2006 5:23:28 PM ~ Jorgensen ?

7:11:15 ~ 1/9/2006 5:23:49 PM ~ Nicholas - Request Highway Patrol Study and gas revenues, fed. funds, etc.  Entire budget.  Del's report shrinking dollar, like to see.

7:11:34 ~ 1/9/2006 5:24:08 PM ~ Reems - Gillette, Rock Springs, Sheridan still must be careful.  Evaluate lower tier and how to make successful.  Need to tweak.

7:13:27 ~ 1/9/2006 5:26:01 PM ~ Hibbard p. 141 Multi-Lane Hwys.

7:14:31 ~ 1/9/2006 5:27:06 PM ~ Hines - Last year specific to multi-lanes

7:14:53 ~ 1/9/2006 5:27:27 PM ~ Hibbard - yes

7:16:45 ~ 1/9/2006 5:29:19 PM ~ Philp

7:16:54 ~ 1/9/2006 5:29:28 PM ~ Pause

7:16:54 ~ 1/9/2006 5:29:34 PM ~ Resume

7:17:28 ~ 1/9/2006 5:30:08 PM ~ Warren - request on budget

7:17:45 ~ 1/9/2006 5:30:25 PM ~ Berger - projecting, does it revert to GF if not used?

7:18:06 ~ 1/9/2006 5:30:46 PM ~ Hibbard  - GF yes

7:18:22 ~ 1/9/2006 5:31:02 PM ~ Philp - thank you.  Adjourned

7:18:48 ~ 1/9/2006 5:31:28 PM ~ Pause

7:18:48 ~ 1/9/2006 5:36:00 PM ~ Stop Recording