JAC BUDGET
HEARINGS 01/10/2006
2006 Budget
Hearings, January 10, 2006
#024 State
Parks & Cultural Resources, #026 Dept of Workforce Services, #025 Dept of
Employment, #008 Public Defender
0 ~ 1/10/2006 8:02:57 AM ~ State Parks
& Cultural Resources - 8:00 a.m.-
0 ~ 1/10/2006 8:02:57 AM ~ Start
Recording
11 ~ 1/10/2006 8:03:08 AM ~ Chairman
Hines
24 ~ 1/10/2006 8:03:21 AM ~ Director Nole.
Milward Simpson, Pat Green 2 Governor's Letter #2, start on Exception Budget -
#1 p. 18 training & development of employees, recommended approval from
Gov. $10,500 of the $50,000 request, cut budget in half.
3:58 ~ 1/10/2006 8:06:55 AM ~ Noble - does
show up correctly on e-org page
4:31 ~ 1/10/2006 8:07:28 AM ~ Noble-#2
priority workshops around state by SHIPO on landowner rights and procedures
5:31 ~ 1/10/2006 8:08:28 AM ~
Hines-artifacts?
5:50 ~ 1/10/2006 8:08:47 AM ~ Noble-yes
6:02 ~ 1/10/2006 8:08:59 AM ~ Hines- road
construction energy projects?
6:23 ~ 1/10/2006 8:09:20 AM ~ Noble - that
is what they would do. #3 to help students learn about history, build trunks
for school materials, loan out to communities, court houses, some territorial
issues at stake, must protect artifacts.
Gov approved $90,000
8:32 ~ 1/10/2006 8:11:29 AM ~ Noble - 100
days of arts, re-granting funds to community
8:51 ~ 1/10/2006 8:11:48 AM ~ Milward
Simpson - match $135,000 raised all for granting programs,
9:48 ~ 1/10/2006 8:12:45 AM ~ Nicholas -
what put in for fund endowments vs. operating costs?
10:08 ~ 1/10/2006 8:13:05 AM ~ M. Simpson -
15 yr. ago endowment program? Purpose
for seed money to create endowments of own. NEA funds also obtained, all have
been dispersed, orig. $500,000 pool, would be a valued program to re-fund.
11:45 ~ 1/10/2006 8:14:42 AM ~ Nicholas -
status of Trust fund Board?
11:55 ~ 1/10/2006 8:14:52 AM ~ M. Simpson -
meetings, due to expire in Feb. Will
redraft Cultural Resources plan rules.
Spring expect input from public.
12:53 ~ 1/10/2006 8:15:50 AM ~ Noble - Gov.
Letter was for re-funding
14:00 ~ 1/10/2006 8:16:57 AM ~ Nobel #5
SHIPO review, our office is busiest tripled requests of next busiest. Request for 2 extra employees for SHIPO. Gov. denied based on BLM, but not really
work for SHIPO. Will live with GR, and
try to get their employees more in line
with SHIPO guidelines. May not dous
good.
16:27 ~ 1/10/2006 8:19:24 AM ~ Hines - in
Cheyenne office?
17:07 ~ 1/10/2006 8:20:04 AM ~ Nobel - one
in Rawlins + 1 elsewhere, not in Cheyenne
17:29 ~ 1/10/2006 8:20:26 AM ~ Job-delays?
17:48 ~ 1/10/2006 8:20:45 AM ~ Nobel - only
can go 30 days delay, streamline process - electronic review, goal for 106
reviews is 10 days average. 30 day
delay causes significant $ loss
19:05 ~ 1/10/2006 8:22:02 AM ~ Petersen - if
we approved 2 new employees, would it ease backlog?
19:24 ~ 1/10/2006 8:22:21 AM ~ Nobel - would
really help. Coalbed methane crunch
just getting started
19:53 ~ 1/10/2006 8:22:50 AM ~ Petersen -
devestating to state if delay?
20:11 ~ 1/10/2006 8:23:08 AM ~ Nobel
20:15 ~ 1/10/2006 8:23:12 AM ~ Nobel - yes,
we should try to expedite
20:47 ~ 1/10/2006 8:23:44 AM ~ Philp - some
companies hire own archeologists, do you review their work?
21:12 ~ 1/10/2006 8:24:09 AM ~ Nobel - yes,
we have to review by law.
21:23 ~ 1/10/2006 8:24:20 AM ~ Philp-
21:43 ~ 1/10/2006 8:24:40 AM ~ Philp - cited
case he knew about - actual examination revealed no chipping or rocks reported
originally. Private land, someone can
pick up if made public. Who? Downside to making it public.
23:02 ~ 1/10/2006 8:25:59 AM ~ Nicholas -
SHIPO employee issues - applicant submits if private archeologist, or ask
agency to have SHIPO do.
24:03 ~ 1/10/2006 8:27:00 AM ~ Nobel - % of
total not sure, we have an archeological review in Laramie. Entry level
position with anthropology or archeology background.
25:20 ~ 1/10/2006 8:28:17 AM ~ Hines -
review required - how work around snow and weather obstruction?
26:02 ~ 1/10/2006 8:28:59 AM ~ M. Simpson -
they do operate year around, as possible
26:32 ~ 1/10/2006 8:29:29 AM ~ Warren - what
does 106 review involve?
26:45 ~ 1/10/2006 8:29:42 AM ~ M. Simpson -
federal law review of proposed project if have sensitive site.
27:29 ~ 1/10/2006 8:30:26 AM ~ Nicholas -
when do we send you back to the Gov. for a reconsideration and Gov. letter
since he was operating on misinformation.
28:23 ~ 1/10/2006 8:31:20 AM ~ Nobel, we can
live with it, but we could go back.
28:39 ~ 1/10/2006 8:31:36 AM ~ M.
Simpson #6
28:56 ~ 1/10/2006 8:31:53 AM ~ WY one of few
rural states without a folk art project.
Incredible variety of traditonal arts in WY. Successfully applied for funds, $40,000 for each of last 2 years,
can apply 1 more yr. Request is for
keeping program alive after this funding expires.
30:53 ~ 1/10/2006 8:33:50 AM ~ Nicholas -
how will it ever become self-sufficient?
31:08 ~ 1/10/2006 8:34:05 AM ~ M. Simpson -
will become part of Arts Council budget.
31:31 ~ 1/10/2006 8:34:28 AM ~ Warren -
overlap?
32:01 ~ 1/10/2006 8:34:58 AM ~ M. Simpson -
Arts Council has various programs with specific funding. Will give you information. Not overlap.
Blacksmithing, e.g. Using models
used in other states.
33:04 ~ 1/10/2006 8:36:01 AM ~ Petersen -
have municipalities/tribes join in.
45,000 vome over Labor Day weekend an example - perhaps could become
self-sustaining.
34:03 ~ 1/10/2006 8:37:00 AM ~ M. Simpson -
Ms. Hatch hired to work with folk art programs and existing folkart festivals.
34:39 ~ 1/10/2006 8:37:36 AM ~ Anderson -
Southern states, students FoxFire books based upon documentation of folk art in
Blue Ridge Mtns. Would it help WY as a
model?
35:50 ~ 1/10/2006 8:38:47 AM ~ M. Simpson -
exactly! Would like to sit down with
you on this.
36:13 ~ 1/10/2006 8:39:10 AM ~ Hines - flow
chart on grants requested.
36:27 ~ 1/10/2006 8:39:24 AM ~ M. Simpson -
also do Cultural Trust Fund - yes
36:42 ~ 1/10/2006 8:39:39 AM ~ Nobel - #7
completion of database not for IT per se.
Can live with GR to deny and look for money elsewhere.
37:44 ~ 1/10/2006 8:40:41 AM ~ Hines - would
this be example of problem Rep. Philp expressed by identifying?
38:21 ~ 1/10/2006 8:41:18 AM ~ Nobel - this
is not public accessible, must have a password, energy companies subscribing to
the service. Really a data entry request.
39:17 ~ 1/10/2006 8:42:14 AM ~ Nicholas -
collect data from applicants, prove to
agency that database is wrong, assume applicant is wrong and database is
right. Expense potential great. Speed up process.
41:08 ~ 1/10/2006 8:44:05 AM ~ Nobel - crew
mostly does highway survey of sites at present and hard to get out.
41:37 ~ 1/10/2006 8:44:34 AM ~ Nobel #8
Biennial Arts Council - First Lady sponsored, Gov. approved
42:24 ~ 1/10/2006 8:45:21 AM ~ M. Simpson -
First Lady feels she can aid this, tremendously excited.
42:55 ~ 1/10/2006 8:45:52 AM ~ Nobel - #8
43:18 ~ 1/10/2006 8:46:15 AM ~ M. Simpson -
Gov. denied, project grants, competetive grants - general support
43:58 ~ 1/10/2006 8:46:55 AM ~ Nobel #10
Veterans Museum - 1 year funding + supplement to this. GR ok,
Also 5 yr. plan for Veterans' Museum.
Took over from volunteer group.
45:29 ~ 1/10/2006 8:48:26 AM ~ Petersen -
how have things gone with appropriation?
45:50 ~ 1/10/2006 8:48:47 AM ~ Nobel - Now
have supt. who had been at a military facility, works with volunteers, melding
both into a more professional
museum. It is a significant asset, just
murals alone are priceless.
46:52 ~ 1/10/2006 8:49:49 AM ~ Meuli -
funding for $41,000 - one-tiime or ongoing funding?
47:22 ~ 1/10/2006 8:50:19 AM ~ Nobel -
ongoing funding to be rolled into budget from last year.
47:43 ~ 1/10/2006 8:50:40 AM ~ Nobel #11
Cultural records relocating to Anthropology building, specific expensive
shelving. GR approved
48:28 ~ 1/10/2006 8:51:25 AM ~ Nobel #12 -
GR approved
48:48 ~ 1/10/2006 8:51:45 AM ~ M. Simpson -
disconnect between artists and how to partner with agencies that can play a
role in community dev. Modest attempt
to provide some assistance. All funds
go into grants.
50:18 ~ 1/10/2006 8:53:15 AM ~ Nobel #13
Gov. denied, should be in Educ., we will work with them
50:48 ~ 1/10/2006 8:53:45 AM ~ Nobel #14
Gov. approved
51:00 ~ 1/10/2006 8:53:57 AM ~ M. Simpson -
Reinstate a very popular program that had cut for past funding concerns. A very important tool - newsletter to state
51:56 ~ 1/10/2006 8:54:53 AM ~ Nobel #15
SHIPO personal computers, oldest computers, reviewing and creating replacement
schedule not now. GR ok
52:54 ~ 1/10/2006 8:55:51 AM ~ Nobel #16 -
Historic Trails Commission has met, developed rules, GR approved
53:34 ~ 1/10/2006 8:56:31 AM ~ Nobel #17
-Linda Fabian, Chuck here, dept. had
severed earlier relationship with State Historical Society, I have worked to
re-establish relationship. Request includes Annals of Wyoming and WY History
Day at UW funds. Contract employee for
2 years to liasion. GR approved
55:44 ~ 1/10/2006 8:58:41 AM ~ Hines - use
of state funds?
56:19 ~ 1/10/2006 8:59:16 AM ~ Nobel -
involved selling membership AG
56:44 ~ 1/10/2006 8:59:41 AM ~ Chuck Lanham,
pres. State Historical Society - WY one of few states where State Historical
Society is not part of the state organization, have about 1,500 members with 1
staff, all volunteers thru state, $ would be very helpful. Annuls goes out worldwide. Need to become a partnership envisioned 15
years ago.
59:42 ~ 1/10/2006 9:02:39 AM ~ Case - split,
state employee working for a non-profit. Arts Council similar, other models?
Boys/Girls Scouts - should they be supported?
Blending concerns, but not knocking the mission.
1:01:07 ~ 1/10/2006
9:04:04 AM ~ Nobel - Don't want to make full employee, controlled by dept. but
as a liasion with Historical Society.
1:01:50 ~
1/10/2006 9:04:47 AM ~ Case - how different from other non-profits? Why special?
1:02:14 ~
1/10/2006 9:05:11 AM ~ Nobel - mission of dept is history, unlike other
non-profits. Dept. focus on history of
state. Positon would help.
1:03:33 ~
1/10/2006 9:06:30 AM ~ Case - DFS support family, lots of non-profits cooperate
to fulfill mission, Why not have state publish Annuls of WY
1:04:43 ~
1/10/2006 9:07:40 AM ~ Jorgensen - agree Annuls is fragile and has sustained
well, Teton Co. broke away from state group for some reason. Need to tie state together. How to be done. Funding the magazine deserves to be done while going thru study.
1:06:12 ~
1/10/2006 9:09:09 AM ~ Nicholas - also concerned about hiring employees and working for non-profit. Troubled by number of new programs being
asked to fund. Tied to funding new
program. Number?
1:07:46 ~
1/10/2006 9:10:43 AM ~ Nobel - not a new program, reinstate a good
program. Dept. sets the policy based
upon your legislation, non-profit does not.
Folk Arts program would be a new program. No answer for how many new programs. Try to tie budget to
strategic plan.
1:09:05 ~
1/10/2006 9:12:02 AM ~ Jorgensen - soft part of dept. starting, challenge
1:10:21 ~
1/10/2006 9:13:18 AM ~ Nobel #18 part time storage and microfilm at
Intermountain Records in Casper, not privatizing records, we have problem with storage. GR ok.
1:11:15 ~
1/10/2006 9:14:12 AM ~ Philp - why continue to use microfilm?
1:11:27 ~
1/10/2006 9:14:24 AM ~ Nobel, great question, seems to be out of date, is still
standards for archiving records. Last
year legislative discussion suggested electronic records. Question of how long it will last. CD's will no longer be used. Microfilm lasts and is still used. Not really outmoded.
1:12:53 ~
1/10/2006 9:15:50 AM ~ Meuli - camera and scanners, aren't these already
available?
1:13:13 ~
1/10/2006 9:16:10 AM ~ Nobel, not for scanners themselves, is for contract with
private company.
1:13:34 ~
1/10/2006 9:16:31 AM ~ Job - investigation of guarantees of companies which
could go out of business.
1:14:05 ~
1/10/2006 9:17:02 AM ~ Nobel - contractural recourse, located at airport,
easily accessed.
1:14:28 ~
1/10/2006 9:17:25 AM ~ Nobel - #19 for actual equipment Rep. Meuli asked
about. GR approval of part and denied
part, suggested looking at other agencies for some of the equipment.
1:15:26 ~
1/10/2006 9:18:23 AM ~ Hines - p. 33 - 34 funding shift? $5m Gov. for trust fund
1:16:31 ~
1/10/2006 9:19:28 AM ~ McVey - yes, references Gov. Rec. in Gov. Letter #2
$3.5m net change
1:17:30 ~
1/10/2006 9:20:27 AM ~ Hines - lefthand column fund shift?
1:17:46 ~
1/10/2006 9:20:43 AM ~ McVey - reflects $ into corpus of cultural trust fund.
1:18:18 ~
1/10/2006 9:21:15 AM ~ Philp requested list of grants
1:18:28 ~
1/10/2006 9:21:25 AM ~ Rep. Simpson - go to the old mansion and look at survival
kits. "Big Al" gave
them to be passed off to agency.
1:20:18 ~
1/10/2006 9:23:14 AM ~ Pause
1:20:18 ~
1/10/2006 9:37:08 AM ~ Resume
1:20:18 ~
1/10/2006 9:37:08 AM ~ Hines - take break
1:20:42 ~
1/10/2006 9:37:32 AM ~ Noble - # 1For this project - it continues to go
down #2 - Our seasonal workers need to
have a raise because we are competing w/ Burger King, etc at only $6.50 / hour.
1:23:04 ~
1/10/2006 9:39:54 AM ~ Pat Green - As I was working in Human Res. we had less
and less applications for employees.
Sometimes we have these people to come back and work full-time for us
later. This is a good training
opportunity. We want to get quality
employees . This helps us to know if
they are going to be good employees if we can have them as seasonal employees.
1:25:33 ~
1/10/2006 9:42:23 AM ~ Petersen - Do you have feel for how much you'll be able
to pay these people with money you've asked for?
1:26:45 ~
1/10/2006 9:43:35 AM ~ Green - You can find that in the narrative.
1:29:12 ~
1/10/2006 9:46:02 AM ~ Noble - Exception req. - need replacements for
equipment. We often buy them from DOT
because they maintain their vehicles.
#10 WYOlink for law enforcement at parks and historical sites, etc.
1:31:22 ~
1/10/2006 9:48:12 AM ~ Jones - Have you accessed Homeland sec. money?
1:31:41 ~
1/10/2006 9:48:31 AM ~ Green- Yes, we have used what we have been given. Other states have screamed about WY getting
so much from them and now they have cut us off.
1:32:29 ~
1/10/2006 9:49:19 AM ~ Case - Have had discussion about the law enforcement in
parks--fill us in about that.
1:33:02 ~
1/10/2006 9:49:52 AM ~ Noble- They go through the training in Douglas like
other peace officers, but they are doing other things also.
1:35:10 ~
1/10/2006 9:51:59 AM ~ Green - Our peace officers also do other things like
maintenance, etc. About 56% of people
that use our state parks are just passing through. We want to keep everyone safe.
1:37:08 ~
1/10/2006 9:53:58 AM ~ Case - What is directive that dept gives to them about
how to divide their time?
1:38:08 ~
1/10/2006 9:54:58 AM ~ Anderson - Can you give us #'s of people at Glendo for
4th of July?
1:38:50 ~
1/10/2006 9:55:39 AM ~ Green - We try to AWAC contract extra people to be in
the parks on the big weekends. Sometime
that is hard because cities and counties have to beef up then also.
1:41:02 ~
1/10/2006 9:57:52 AM ~ Jorgensen - Is there a max. # that can be in these
parks?
1:41:56 ~
1/10/2006 9:58:46 AM ~ Green - we are moving toward having designated camping
areas in Glendo. That will help the #'s
situation.
1:42:34 ~
1/10/2006 9:59:24 AM ~ Philp - Would archives be able to use same machine??
1:42:59 ~
1/10/2006 9:59:49 AM ~ Noble - I think that this is a different type. #12 - is for GIS equipment - Gov
approved #13 - Off road rec. vechile
prog. - gov approved #14 - Rec. trails
prog.
1:45:15 ~
1/10/2006 10:02:05 AM ~ Hines - Parks maintenance 5 yr. program
1:46:16 ~
1/10/2006 10:03:06 AM ~ Noble - Our req. are different from A & I because
these don't fall under them. This
report outlines where we are and what we need to have. It was produced in-house.
1:48:26 ~
1/10/2006 10:05:16 AM ~ Hines - You have this report set up by bien. Right???
What will you do if you need some other monies?
1:49:24 ~
1/10/2006 10:06:14 AM ~ Noble - We have tried to prioritize projects - much of
what we have asked for is for roads w/in state parks. If we could have money up front it would be much easier for us to
manage these projects rather than trying to piecemeal everything.
1:51:43 ~
1/10/2006 10:08:33 AM ~ Hines - Does your enterprise fund take care of daily
maintenance? As you do one gp of
backlog are you creating more backlogs??
1:53:05 ~
1/10/2006 10:09:55 AM ~ Green - the enterprise fund does take care of some, but
we are creating some other problems.
1:53:51 ~
1/10/2006 10:10:41 AM ~ Nicholas - Are we talking about new site work or
preserving what we have?
1:55:00 ~
1/10/2006 10:11:50 AM ~ Noble - the 29 mil is all for maintenance. The consultant just went around and
identified that needs to be done around the state.
1:56:38 ~
1/10/2006 10:13:28 AM ~ Warren - Can you identify what you really need to have
so that we can save some. What if you
had it as lump sum?
1:58:38 ~
1/10/2006 10:15:28 AM ~ Green - We would like to have larger amt. so that we
can know we have money we can better utilize it.
1:59:13 ~
1/10/2006 10:16:03 AM ~ Nicholas - Can we see what you get from other agency?
1:59:45 ~
1/10/2006 10:16:35 AM ~ Noble - We do not fall under A & I by AG
opinion. We have to come to you for
everything that we get.
2:00:26 ~
1/10/2006 10:17:16 AM ~ Nicholas - Mike, what do they get now?
2:00:42 ~
1/10/2006 10:17:32 AM ~ McVey - Mr. Noble is correct but their only source of
funding is the bit that they get. I
have asked Mr. Cathcart to tell me what the funding could be - 1.8 mil for major maintenance could be added to their
budget.
2:03:35 ~
1/10/2006 10:20:25 AM ~ Nicholas - I would like for you to pursue this.
2:03:53 ~
1/10/2006 10:20:43 AM ~ Noble - We were told after AG opinion that our bldgs.
don't fall under state agency. We have
to come to you and ask for money.
2:05:15 ~
1/10/2006 10:22:05 AM ~ Nicholas - Every agency has backlog and need to keep
working on chunking away.
2:06:03 ~
1/10/2006 10:22:53 AM ~ Job - I don't understand why DOT doesn't take care of
roads in state parks? Why?
2:06:34 ~
1/10/2006 10:23:24 AM ~ Hines - WyDot - just does roads, not buildings.
2:07:14 ~
1/10/2006 10:24:04 AM ~ Anderson - WyDot gives engineering assistance to other
agencies.
2:07:49 ~
1/10/2006 10:24:39 AM ~ Green - I want to address Sen. Job's ques. In statutes there it says we are to have $6K
for roads.
2:09:49 ~
1/10/2006 10:26:38 AM ~ Bonds - $6K does not go very far. We do use WyDot for some of our
projects. People are reluctant to chg.
formulas because it cause big problems.
2:12:17 ~
1/10/2006 10:29:07 AM ~ Hines -
2:12:54 ~
1/10/2006 10:29:44 AM ~ Noble - I share Sen. Job's concern and I don't know why
we aren't under state buildings, but
the AG said that we weren't.
2:15:29 ~ 1/10/2006
10:32:19 AM ~ Hines - we are ready for capital construction
2:15:42 ~
1/10/2006 10:32:32 AM ~ Noble - pg. 55 - we are asking for more for health and
safety projects -
2:17:24 ~
1/10/2006 10:34:14 AM ~ Nicholas -
2:17:30 ~
1/10/2006 10:34:19 AM ~ Green - That just gives us spending authority.
2:17:46 ~
1/10/2006 10:34:36 AM ~ Jones - Are they enterprise funds?
2:18:00 ~
1/10/2006 10:34:49 AM ~ Noble - pg. 62 -
2:18:42 ~
1/10/2006 10:35:32 AM ~ Meuli - Could talk a little about req. on pg. 59 that
was denied?
2:19:02 ~
1/10/2006 10:35:52 AM ~ Noble - The State Bldg. Commission denied it because
the land was outside the capital complex and they thought it should be closer
to here. W/ realty neg. going on around
this area - Won't know outcome for a year.
2:22:36 ~
1/10/2006 10:39:26 AM ~ Petersen - With thought of archives deteriorating,
where are you??
2:23:10 ~
1/10/2006 10:40:00 AM ~ Noble - The archives are deteriorating faster than
necessary because the warehouse is not appropriate. We need to have these taken care of quickly. The bldg. commission asked that existing
bldgs. be considered also. We are to
work w/ architect as we are doing. We
are looking at other options even though consultant suggested a new bldg.
2:26:09 ~
1/10/2006 10:42:58 AM ~ Hines - pg. 65
2:26:20 ~
1/10/2006 10:43:10 AM ~ Noble - You said to keep funds funds that we
collect. This is basically a spending
authority for monies that we collect at territorial prison.
2:27:23 ~
1/10/2006 10:44:13 AM ~ Anderson - Would you tell us where we are w/ prison?
2:27:45 ~
1/10/2006 10:44:35 AM ~ Noble - Need lots of maintenance at the territorial
prison- expense proposition there.
2:28:31 ~
1/10/2006 10:45:20 AM ~ Green - much of cost is for broom factory is to stabilize
it. We have had living exhibits
there. Territorial prison used to have
a broom industry there.
2:29:58 ~
1/10/2006 10:46:48 AM ~ Nicholas - lots of space there for $18 mil building
2:30:25 ~
1/10/2006 10:47:15 AM ~ Green - once we get this repaired it will be a really
nice building for artisans to use for living history.
2:32:03 ~
1/10/2006 10:48:53 AM ~ Warren - Wasn't there a loan for this?
2:32:17 ~
1/10/2006 10:49:07 AM ~ Nicholas - That was actually repaid - Ha!!!!
2:32:45 ~
1/10/2006 10:49:34 AM ~ Pause
2:32:45 ~
1/10/2006 10:50:01 AM ~ Resume
2:42:10 ~
1/10/2006 10:59:26 AM ~ Hines - Lets get started with Workforce Services.
2:42:47 ~
1/10/2006 11:00:03 AM ~ Kathy Emmons - Intro her staff Overview of department - created from 4
other depts. This dept has helped state move forward in helping the business
world. We need to help in recruitment
and training for state. As state grows need to try to meet the demand for more
workers. Primarily dependent on fed.
funds. Have seen dec. of fed funds -
4-8% less 3 divisions Services in every
community in state. People that use our
services are more successful in getting employment. Wage rate is progressing if from our training. People are staying in jobs longer. Turnover is much less now. Exception #1 - Awareness campaign for public
Need to have consultant to help in some of this #2 - Workforce analysis for future Investment- would want to have
some outside help with this
2:53:22 ~
1/10/2006 11:10:38 AM ~ Warren- Is there overlap with employment dept??
2:54:01 ~
1/10/2006 11:11:18 AM ~ Emmons - We will work with them. We need to have real time, not old data.
2:54:58 ~
1/10/2006 11:12:14 AM ~ Meuli - on this request , did you req. that this
funding start this yr or gov?
2:55:28 ~
1/10/2006 11:12:44 AM ~ Emmons - Gov suggested and we were thrilled to start
now.
2:55:59 ~
1/10/2006 11:13:15 AM ~ Berger -
2:57:25 ~
1/10/2006 11:14:41 AM ~ Anderson - with crystal ball how will you work w/ ed.
depart to teach students for the future?
2:58:14 ~
1/10/2006 11:15:30 AM ~ Emmons - are working closely w/ dept of ed to dev. some
materials that will work w/ kids.
Currently we are working on career paths to get to kids so they will
know what they need to have to do a particular job.
3:00:32 ~ 1/10/2006
11:17:48 AM ~ Emmons - #3 - Position status change - funding is already
there pg. 30 - GED prog to move to
Community College Comm. pg. 34 - Comm. services priority - this was moved from
state gov to nonprofit
3:04:31 ~
1/10/2006 11:21:47 AM ~ Nicholas - How does the nonprofit get fed funds?
3:04:56 ~
1/10/2006 11:22:13 AM ~ Emmons- it is Americor and Vista program. Prog. where
most states the money goes directly to nonprofit. Now it is set up that way.
pg 40 - dec. fed revenues - & inc. personnel costs --When the leg
inc. personnel wages we don't get those because we are primarily fed.
funded. Would like to get inc. for our
workers. #4 funding adjustments Warren
- some of funding is contingent upon fed funding? ?When will you know about that?
3:13:23 ~
1/10/2006 11:30:39 AM ~ Emmons - food stamps - We do that because it was means
that there is a working requirement.
We do know that we won't get funding so unless something funny happens
we know that those monies won't be there.
pg. 53 - Workforce dev. training fund
#
3:17:10 ~
1/10/2006 11:34:26 AM ~ Emmons - #2 - Bus. training & outreach admin. #3 - Senior community service employment
prog. #4 apprenticeship utilization
program pg. 68 - Kemmer Expansion -
have been seeing real growth here and need more #2 Motor vehicle management system rate inc. - Voc rehabilitation has not taken cuts from
feds as have other areas. We haven't
asked for as many gen funds as we could.
#4 - portion for new telephone systems for five field offices
3:23:02 ~
1/10/2006 11:40:18 AM ~ Jim McIntoch - just need to update 1979 phones.
3:25:17 ~
1/10/2006 11:42:34 AM ~ Emmons - #5 - furniture for field offices
3:26:25 ~
1/10/2006 11:43:41 AM ~ Meuli - if you don't get gen funds do you not get fed
funds??
3:26:57 ~
1/10/2006 11:44:13 AM ~ Emmons - No gen funds we don't get fed funds.
3:27:16 ~
1/10/2006 11:44:32 AM ~ Petersen -
3:27:29 ~
1/10/2006 11:44:45 AM ~ Emmons - training that bus. req. funds for they
ask for the particular training and
apply for our funds.
3:29:13 ~
1/10/2006 11:46:29 AM ~ Petersen - What if the training they req. is not of
high standards??
3:29:43 ~
1/10/2006 11:46:59 AM ~ Emmons - We make sure that they are good trainers.
3:30:30 ~
1/10/2006 11:47:47 AM ~ Anderson - What about out of state workforce??
3:30:46 ~
1/10/2006 11:48:02 AM ~ Emmons - we need to look out-of-state, but we don't
want to look out of country yet. We'll
need 40 K more workers in next 5 yrs.
Need to recruit in states and closed industry that would be like
WY. Don't want them to be surprised or
disappointed.
3:33:12 ~
1/10/2006 11:50:29 AM ~ Case - What about chg positions from part-time to
full-time? Do your have the money
already?
3:34:05 ~
1/10/2006 11:51:21 AM ~ Emmons - Some have been working full-time but
classified as part-time. We do have the
funding.
3:34:53 ~
1/10/2006 11:52:10 AM ~ Case - you mentioned that dept. has grown. What is your head count?
3:35:43 ~
1/10/2006 11:52:59 AM ~ Emmons - 284 across the state. --If this req. is filled we won't have any
part-time positions.
3:36:21 ~
1/10/2006 11:53:38 AM ~ Nicholas - Why should state of WY go out and recruit
for cyclical jobs.
3:37:11 ~
1/10/2006 11:54:27 AM ~ Emmons - We aren't always going to know what jobs are
going to be here.
3:37:48 ~
1/10/2006 11:55:05 AM ~ Philp - on GED, didn't we transfer it from CC budget to
you. Why are we moving?
3:39:12 ~
1/10/2006 11:56:28 AM ~ Emmons - Yes, we did move them , but they administer
the GED so we think it should be there.
3:40:41 ~ 1/10/2006
11:57:57 AM ~ Hines - thank you. Committee, Steve has the new CREG report for
us.
3:42:07 ~
1/10/2006 11:59:24 AM ~ Steve - we can add some monies . We left the minerals estimate as was. We did add $37-38 mil to our estimate. Gov rec. that we add some to LSRA. See gold profile sheet. If take gov rec. and factor in new
calibration we'll still be in hole.
3:47:01 ~
1/10/2006 12:04:17 PM ~ Nicholas - please explain some of the figures. What about the Hathaway
3:48:13 ~
1/10/2006 12:05:30 PM ~ Steve - if you decide not to transfer that amount to
the school foundation. You might not
get all of the 280mil.
3:49:02 ~
1/10/2006 12:06:18 PM ~ Nicholas - how is all that going to work?
3:49:27 ~
1/10/2006 12:06:43 PM ~ Steve - depends on when we transfer that money over.
3:50:02 ~
1/10/2006 12:07:18 PM ~ Nicholas - I think that it should drop below 100 mil $$
profile.
3:50:34 ~
1/10/2006 12:07:50 PM ~ Steve - we're basically taking what he wants and
plugging it in.
3:51:39 ~
1/10/2006 12:08:55 PM ~ Nicholas - I thought that it had to leave 100 mil.
3:52:44 ~
1/10/2006 12:10:00 PM ~ Steve -
3:53:20 ~
1/10/2006 12:10:36 PM ~ Hines - Thanks Steve.
We'll back at 1 p.m.
3:54:39 ~
1/10/2006 12:11:54 PM ~ Pause
3:54:39 ~
1/10/2006 1:01:38 PM ~ Resume
3:54:46 ~
1/10/2006 1:01:45 PM ~ Hines - #025 Employment
3:55:03 ~
1/10/2006 1:02:02 PM ~ Director Pomeroy - thank you for allowing us to present
budget, introduced staff have over 160 yrs. of experience, also thanks to
Budget staff, Mike McVey & Jill Jensen.
3:56:39 ~
1/10/2006 1:03:39 PM ~ Pomeroy -explained goals and activities of dept. quality
of life, responsible steward of WY.
Concern for aging population, workers' comp, higher risk occupations,
OSHA, uses technology to better serve population. Serve public while saving $.
Major focus 31% of all employees will reach retirement age or rule of 85
in 5 years. Create supervisory accident
report, accident investigation, training for safe lifting, etc. Implemented wellness program, 110 of 300
employees participate. $20,070
employees registered in W. Comp, other statistics given. FY 2007-2008 $70m
budget, 6.1% increase, only 5% GF, IT software or equipment.
4:04:03 ~
1/10/2006 1:11:02 PM ~ Pomeroy - 55% of cases investigated within 5
days.Interactive voice response, OSHA marketing effort on good safety
practices. Referenced #40 Safety
calendar
4:05:54 ~
1/10/2006 1:12:54 PM ~ Job - hearings for Workers' Comp, long time?
4:06:27 ~
1/10/2006 1:13:26 PM ~ Pomeroy - scheduled almost 1 yr. out due to lack of
staff proficiency. Right to appeal,
attorney fees pd. at each level. We are doing better, independent assessment
done in 2004, WY is one of few states that pay attorney fees
4:07:40 ~
1/10/2006 1:14:39 PM ~ Job- help in interim before appeal?
4:07:57 ~
1/10/2006 1:14:56 PM ~ Pomeroy - no help
4:08:10 ~
1/10/2006 1:15:10 PM ~ Jorgensen - make a call early, 15% of cases not settled,
how long will they take? Entitled to
make a claim, do they know state pays claims?
4:09:13 ~
1/10/2006 1:16:13 PM ~ Pomeroy - yes, they kno.
4:09:30 ~
1/10/2006 1:16:30 PM ~ Child - Office of Administrative Hearings - till
settlement = average is 260 days.
Continuances affect. Medical
Commission scheduled up to November this year.
4:11:27 ~
1/10/2006 1:18:26 PM ~ Jorgensen - receive a report?
4:11:42 ~
1/10/2006 1:18:42 PM ~ Pomeroy - June meeting, will give all information.
4:12:00 ~
1/10/2006 1:19:00 PM ~ Nicholas - DOAH ebbs and flows, staff now will be dead
silence until hearings, fund someone to do mandatory mediation for DOAH? Settlement at 200 days could be done thru
mediation early.
4:14:38 ~
1/10/2006 1:21:37 PM ~ Pomeroy - visited North Dakota and they do have a
Mediation Board. Will pursue.
4:15:05 ~
1/10/2006 1:22:04 PM ~ Jorgensen - when completed?
4:15:15 ~
1/10/2006 1:22:14 PM ~ Child- tentative draft due by end of month, is a
concern. Mediation is offered thru
4:16:32 ~
1/10/2006 1:23:32 PM ~ Jorgensen - requested DeLoit Report
4:16:47 ~
1/10/2006 1:23:47 PM ~ Job also wants copy.
Do you do customer satisfaction
interviews. Interested in what you do
with the results.
4:17:36 ~
1/10/2006 1:24:35 PM ~ Child - last month we got an 89% satisfaction rate on
injured worker questionnaires. Also use
as a training tool.
4:18:39 ~
1/10/2006 1:25:39 PM ~ Simpson - Like copy of DeLoit rept. Do you have a report of legislation
sponsored or other results. Track
results?
4:19:43 ~
1/10/2006 1:26:42 PM ~ Child - yes, AG also gives actions we can do. Assessed on individual basis.
4:20:11 ~
1/10/2006 1:27:10 PM ~ Simpson - what paying attorneys, how many doing Workers
Comp?
4:20:31 ~
1/10/2006 1:27:31 PM ~ Child $95/hr, have 10 contract attorneys per division
4:20:53 ~
1/10/2006 1:27:52 PM ~ Child- OAH set rates,
4:21:19 ~
1/10/2006 1:28:18 PM ~ Nicholas - distribute rept. to all members.
4:21:35 ~
1/10/2006 1:28:34 PM ~ Hiens - go into budget
4:22:01 ~
1/10/2006 1:29:00 PM ~ Pomeroy p. 10 #1 training for succession of retirees.
4:23:07 ~
1/10/2006 1:30:07 PM ~ Pomeroy p. 15 storage by imaging employees' files
4:24:02 ~
1/10/2006 1:31:01 PM ~ Pomeroy p. 20 prevaliling wage now since 2001 is resp.
on this dept. No funding, Dept. of
Transportation has management of funds.
UW Dr. Godfrey now does survey, and need funds in our
4:25:37 ~
1/10/2006 1:32:37 PM ~ Nicholas - reason why we did that? Federal funding?
4:26:10 ~
1/10/2006 1:33:10 PM ~ Pomeroy p. 27 #1, asking for 2 full-time case workers.
Alleviate hardship Have 1 nurse who can
approve, also working in case mgmt.
4:28:33 ~
1/10/2006 1:35:33 PM ~ Simpson - how many cases are open at any one time?
4:28:48 ~
1/10/2006 1:35:48 PM ~ Pomeroy about 14,000.
Pg. 28 reclassification of 9 staff members. B-11 in 1995, become part of standard budget. #3 1999 WINGS Program Assessment, do a technical
assessment to replace this to a more effective, cheaper program.
4:31:41 ~
1/10/2006 1:38:40 PM ~ Hines - explain
4:31:58 ~
1/10/2006 1:38:57 PM ~ IT Manager
4:35:02 ~
1/10/2006 1:42:02 PM ~ Pomeroy #4, CIO approved replacement of scanner,
etc. Redundency was denied by CIO and
Gov. No problem.
4:36:41 ~
1/10/2006 1:43:41 PM ~ Pomeroy #6
approved CIO and Gov.
4:37:29 ~
1/10/2006 1:44:29 PM ~ Pomeroy #7
approved by CIO and Gov.
4:38:10 ~
1/10/2006 1:45:09 PM ~ Pomeoroy #8 online statements
4:38:34 ~
1/10/2006 1:45:34 PM ~ Hines #7 standard budget or one time funding?
4:38:50 ~
1/10/2006 1:45:49 PM ~ Pomeroy one-time
4:39:01 ~
1/10/2006 1:46:00 PM ~ Pomeroy #9 eliminate objectionable materials on
internet. #10 IT Staff training denied
by CIO to absorb into budget.
4:40:05 ~
1/10/2006 1:47:05 PM ~ Nicholas - CIO turn down as not necessary or doesn't
like program. Governor denies due to
funds. CIO didn't think it was
necessary. They prioritize
requests. This was a low priority.
4:41:44 ~
1/10/2006 1:48:43 PM ~ Pomeroy - #11 request for vehicles approved.
4:42:28 ~
1/10/2006 1:49:27 PM ~ Pomeroy pg. 36 #1 absolutely critical, approved by Gov.
4:43:42 ~
1/10/2006 1:50:42 PM ~ Nicholas -
4:43:49 ~
1/10/2006 1:50:48 PM ~ Pomeroy - must be invited in,
4:44:12 ~
1/10/2006 1:51:11 PM ~ Hines - funding source?
4:44:20 ~
1/10/2006 1:51:20 PM ~ Pomeroy enterprise funds
4:44:35 ~
1/10/2006 1:51:34 PM ~ Pomeroy- #2 MVMS adjustments approved by Gov.
4:45:03 ~
1/10/2006 1:52:02 PM ~ Pomeroy #3 parttime to fulltime positions Gov. approved.
4:45:37 ~
1/10/2006 1:52:37 PM ~ Warren - how do these positions invite self in, what do when in? How found out
about?Timeline of how to do?
4:46:32 ~
1/10/2006 1:53:31 PM ~ Pomeroy-start immediately, put one in Casper,
newsletters, media, promote into different safety programs.
4:47:44 ~
1/10/2006 1:54:44 PM ~ Child series of programs VEP program,has 6 employers,
other 2 programs and numbers of employers discussed. 33% participate and reduce costs by %. Full spectrum of
programs which affect their premiums.
Target various industries, determine which employers need
assistance. Can opt out and invite
consultation in.
4:50:36 ~
1/10/2006 1:57:35 PM ~ Hines - Total funding in good shape for Workers Comp? Rates increase?
4:51:17 ~
1/10/2006 1:58:17 PM ~ Pomeroy - pleased that no increase to base rate happened
this year.
4:51:49 ~
1/10/2006 1:58:48 PM ~ Hines 11% increase?
4:52:01 ~
1/10/2006 1:59:00 PM ~ Child 11% decrease in injuries of employers who are
enrolled in program.
4:52:25 ~
1/10/2006 1:59:24 PM ~ Simpson - WINS
program
4:52:37 ~
1/10/2006 1:59:37 PM ~ Pomeroy
4:52:46 ~
1/10/2006 1:59:45 PM ~ Nicholas - enforcement officer is it his discretion to
write up other problems found if going out for 1 item?
4:54:14 ~
1/10/2006 2:01:14 PM ~ Pomeroy - can fix
4:54:44 ~
1/10/2006 2:01:43 PM ~ Pomeroy - do have that authority.
4:55:06 ~
1/10/2006 2:02:06 PM ~ Simpson - employers paying into fund, any problem with
employers attempting to pay lower rate.
4:55:45 ~
1/10/2006 2:02:45 PM ~ Pomeroy - State Unemployment Tax - no further problems.
4:56:16 ~
1/10/2006 2:03:15 PM ~ Pomeroy, p. 45, #1 part time to full time positions
approved by Gov. low unemployment rate,
3 positions.
4:57:14 ~
1/10/2006 2:04:13 PM ~ Hines, p. 42?
4:57:50 ~
1/10/2006 2:04:49 PM ~ Pomeroy - typo, we have grown with employees, will
correct this.
4:58:12 ~
1/10/2006 2:05:11 PM ~ Pomeroy, p. 51 request 7 positions from part time to
full time + a funding adjustment to correct putting it into an incorrect
revenue code.
4:59:35 ~
1/10/2006 2:06:35 PM ~ Hines - ?
5:00:25 ~
1/10/2006 2:07:24 PM ~ Pomeroy - misconduct on job, difficult to win, and case
law - use of drugs during work hours.
5:02:07 ~
1/10/2006 2:09:06 PM ~ Hines - federal issue?
Illegal employees on Workers Comp?
5:02:57 ~
1/10/2006 2:09:57 PM ~ Pomeroy - all on fed. side, must be conformed to feds,
not on workers comp side - enterprise funds.
5:03:33 ~
1/10/2006 2:10:33 PM ~ Case - very soured on my experience with .
5:04:21 ~
1/10/2006 2:11:20 PM ~ Job - policy of alcohol and drug free workplace? Would it qualify?
5:04:52 ~
1/10/2006 2:11:51 PM ~ If employer had informed employee and if he terminates
and tells why, then it can be misconduct.
5:06:19 ~
1/10/2006 2:13:19 PM ~ Nicholas - lawyers tell fired employees not to tell why.
5:06:53 ~
1/10/2006 2:13:52 PM ~ Pomeroy - p. 61
asking for additional personnel in light of West Virginia mine disaster. 30% up with no new personnel since 1980. Locate in Casper for central location
5:08:27 ~
1/10/2006 2:15:26 PM ~ Pomeroy #2 MVMS, #3 in-state travel, #4 technical
equipment, #5 #6
researchmaterial in-house library.
5:10:53 ~
1/10/2006 2:17:53 PM ~ Warren #5 how determine lease or purchase computers?
5:11:17 ~
1/10/2006 2:18:17 PM ~ Pomeroy, Leases are good due to outdated equipment, more
expensive to replace than to rent.
5:11:49 ~
1/10/2006 2:18:49 PM ~ Petersen - how often do we inspect open pit and
underground mines.
5:12:13 ~
1/10/2006 2:19:12 PM ~ J. D. Danni - Twice per year inspect both mines and
inspectors.
5:13:06 ~
1/10/2006 2:20:05 PM ~ Petersen - are owners receptive to corrections?
5:13:25 ~
1/10/2006 2:20:25 PM ~ Danni - shut entire or section of mine down if found a
violation. Operator doesn't like it,
but understands. Federal mine
inspectors also there twice per yr.
Most infractions not substantial enough to shut down.
5:14:36 ~
1/10/2006 2:21:36 PM ~ Anderson -
5:14:41 ~
1/10/2006 2:21:41 PM ~ Danni - Mining permit required
5:15:27 ~
1/10/2006 2:22:26 PM ~ Anderson - yellow cake inspected also?
5:15:42 ~
1/10/2006 2:22:42 PM ~ Danni - inspect mine, if part of mine inspected by MOA
or definition.
5:16:28 ~
1/10/2006 2:23:27 PM ~ Nicholas
5:17:10 ~
1/10/2006 2:24:09 PM ~ Danni - not saying WV situation would happen here, but
we try to be proactive, not reactive
5:17:49 ~
1/10/2006 2:24:48 PM ~ Petersen - how many fatalities in last 2 years? Under your jurisdiction?
5:18:26 ~
1/10/2006 2:25:25 PM ~ Danni - 3 in last 2 years, mine rescue teams not
specified in statute, are under federal regulations. We are involved, members on team are miners too.
5:19:35 ~
1/10/2006 2:26:35 PM ~ Pomeroy - p. 71 roof repair, replace membrane, revenue
funds to be used. Partial replacement
in 1996, needs repair, no federal funds, asking for UI Revenue funds generated
from delinquent accounts
5:21:47 ~
1/10/2006 2:28:47 PM ~ Meuli - insurance?
Caused by hail?
5:22:06 ~
1/10/2006 2:29:05 PM ~ Pomeroy - we are self insured.
5:22:14 ~
1/10/2006 2:29:14 PM ~ Hines - capital construction?
5:22:24 ~
1/10/2006 2:29:23 PM ~ Pomeroy purchase parking lot approved by the State
Building Commission and the Gov.
5:22:51 ~
1/10/2006 2:29:51 PM ~ Hines - Thank you for the information. Take 10min break and then continue with
Public Defender.
5:23:08 ~
1/10/2006 2:30:07 PM ~ Pause
5:23:08 ~
1/10/2006 2:46:00 PM ~ Resume
5:23:08 ~
1/10/2006 2:46:00 PM ~ Ken Koski - Public Defender Introduced his staff
5:23:38 ~
1/10/2006 2:46:30 PM ~ Koski - Have provided organ. chart so you can see our
agency Ref. to gov. ltr - effective
immediately - Death penalty - have
handled 5 diff. cases - inc. case load that my agency is facing. Providing free council has been very
expensive. We do need effective
immediate funding in order to finish this bien.
5:27:47 ~
1/10/2006 2:50:39 PM ~ Nicholas - do you know that you are going to expend that
or only if you go to trial?
5:28:12 ~
1/10/2006 2:51:04 PM ~ Koski - We will probably expend it whether we go to trial
or not. Our budget could be over $800K
shortfall. With these death penalty
cases it is more expensive. Sometimes
if the staff doesn't have the time to do appeals in a timely fashion we have to
farm them out.
5:31:15 ~
1/10/2006 2:54:07 PM ~ Nicholas - Do you have any 900 line item series in you ?
5:32:15 ~
1/10/2006 2:55:07 PM ~ Brian Young - fiscal officer Encumbrances are money that
we have set aside for particular use.
5:33:58 ~
1/10/2006 2:56:50 PM ~ Anderson- At least one of Fremont cty cases have been
referred to fed court, how would you sit?
5:34:55 ~
1/10/2006 2:57:47 PM ~ Koski - If that happens the cost will go down, but we
have to be prepared.
5:36:07 ~
1/10/2006 2:58:59 PM ~ Nicholas - When asked for your 900 series we had hoped
that you would be able to show us where we could help you. How do I evaluate your office costs, etc. ??
5:37:48 ~
1/10/2006 3:00:40 PM ~ Koski - gov. has put some of money in for us. He put in the 903 series to help us out.
5:38:47 ~
1/10/2006 3:01:39 PM ~ Nicholas - Do you think that you will hit that 903
series?
5:42:40 ~
1/10/2006 3:05:32 PM ~ Hines - this move into your budget
5:43:03 ~
1/10/2006 3:05:55 PM ~ Koski - I will discuss the exception budget. We are seeing an inc. in case load, more
drug cases and the death penalty cases.
In last 2 yrs we have grown by over 20%. Our trial level attorneys have over 125 open cases. We are far exceeding the number of
suggested. Exception budget - #1 -
5:46:58 ~
1/10/2006 3:09:50 PM ~ Anderson - You were denied a position in Goshen
county. Is the crime rate going to
increase there when the prison is up and running?
5:47:59 ~
1/10/2006 3:10:51 PM ~ Koski - We don't pay our attorneys as much as other
state agencies. That's
disgraceful. The independent
contractors are paid more. As a state
employee you get benefits. It is
easier to get one with guaranteed month income. All our employees are willing to work since we give full-time
work. Simpson -What about defendents
wanting to use their own attorney and then have state pay.??? Koski - That has happened. Not during this session, but I do plan to
pursue to have the statue changed so that would not be possible.
6:00:51 ~
1/10/2006 3:23:43 PM ~ Hines - any other questions>??? If not, we are adjourned for today .
6:01:25 ~
1/10/2006 3:24:17 PM ~ Stop Recording