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JAC BUDGET
HEARINGS 01/12/2006
011 Dept. of
Revenue, 015 Attorney General, 160 County and Prosecuting Attorneys, 006 Administration
& Information
0 ~ 1/12/2006 8:00:45 AM ~ Start
Recording
29 ~ 1/12/2006 8:01:14 AM ~ Ed Schmidt,
Director of Revenue Bill Pomeroy, Liquor Rich Rinders, Excise Tax Wayne Hall,
Property Tax Christie Yurek, Fiscal Officer
If you move our the liquor division we have about 17 Mil budget Have not inc. staff just gained some
efficiencies. The main budget this time is for the computer system. The systems and purchases are stressful and
you need some good management. These
systems require a lot of attention. We have worked through the CIO so that we
can work with other agencies too. In
liquor division - had a complete failure of system - very sophisticated system. After many hours of frustration we
gerryrigged a system and after 6 mos. work we should be back on line the end of
this month. Now for the CAMA
system- after 2 mos of the installation we discovered that we were going to
have a problem with our vendor. We had
to fire that vendor. Had a good
contract and went well. Found new
vendor and I think that this will work.
Lost about 1 yrs' time. Spoke of
schedule of installing in different counties.
Has been a project like I've never seen in my life. Diff. counties want to do their system their
own way. Have tried to work well with
each other. This is a distributing type
system -first state in the US to get their system like this. Can generate ad hoc reports, etc. etc. Long
term system - will give better handle of what goes on with property taxes. Most of accessors are doing a reassessment
of all properties.
19:24 ~ 1/12/2006 8:20:09 AM ~ Job - Since
talking about systems failing, what system do you have so that they won't be
lost - backup system??
20:05 ~ 1/12/2006 8:20:50 AM ~ Schmidt -
Yes, we do have that if we should have a disaster.
20:44 ~ 1/12/2006 8:21:29 AM ~ Knutson -
Have just finished updating our systems, have redundant hardware systems, data
storage network, Won't lose the data.
21:35 ~ 1/12/2006 8:22:20 AM ~ Simpson - See
in report occasional gap in telecommunication interruption -
22:01 ~ 1/12/2006 8:22:46 AM ~ Hall- Data
replication - has been designed to backup to state servers everyday. Telecommunication issues are a few gliches
in some counties. They are being backed
up nightly.
23:47 ~ 1/12/2006 8:24:32 AM ~ Anderson -
Having to do with maps - are they stored digitally?
24:01 ~ 1/12/2006 8:24:47 AM ~ Hall - With
GIS maps specifically - all we maintained in our department are in our servers
and some counties have GIS, some still have paper, not many.
25:05 ~ 1/12/2006 8:25:50 AM ~ Philp - Do
you archive data? or information? Do you use microfilm?
25:27 ~ 1/12/2006 8:26:13 AM ~ Knutson - We
are storing, haven't established for archived - 3 yrs. to chaps, 5 yrs. etc.
Sometimes we have to go back and change something. We have done it digitally.
27:22 ~ 1/12/2006 8:28:07 AM ~ Philp - Other
agencies are doing it in microfiche.
27:51 ~ 1/12/2006 8:28:36 AM ~ Anderson - as
form partnerships with our counties like with CAMA- are we not going to have to
do some work together??
28:53 ~ 1/12/2006 8:29:39 AM ~ Schmidt - All
county tax maps we have to work together.
Are an agency that have to work like that.
29:47 ~ 1/12/2006 8:30:32 AM ~ Schmidt -
Exception - p. 8- gov. denied p. 12 - Streamline sales tax - my appointee, Mr.
Nobel, has attended many meetings to get this together. It is a nationwide issue. - because forecast
that WY will lose 83 mil $ in revenue.
Remote sales is huge now because of internet. May hire someone to go out and collect tax for state. Legislature may have to take good hard look.
35:23 ~ 1/12/2006 8:36:09 AM ~ Simpson -
What would happen if Colorado does not adopt the streamline sales tax?
36:00 ~ 1/12/2006 8:36:46 AM ~ Schmidt -
They have a lot more jurisdictions than WY has. Would there be a competive disadvantage? Local merchants are at a disadvantage. Is a question that needs to be debated.
37:25 ~ 1/12/2006 8:38:10 AM ~ Petersen -
Press coverage some favorable, some not - have you kept track of the pro and
con?
38:06 ~ 1/12/2006 8:38:51 AM ~ Schmidt - we
got one very vocal critic, but we have not had others. 18 co's. have signed up and started
collecting our taxes. Some have thought
that there would be no tax on the internet, but that is not happening. Think you are going to find that industries
are vendors will have to speak up. Need
to educate people.
40:20 ~ 1/12/2006 8:41:05 AM ~ Philp - Will
it eventually req. national legislation?
40:54 ~ 1/12/2006 8:41:39 AM ~ Schmidt -
Yes, Sen. Enzi has intro this session.
41:22 ~ 1/12/2006 8:42:08 AM ~ Nicholas -
aware that I have a client that is very vocal.
I don't think that there are that many monies. There will always have some safe haven states. CO may be a safe
haven state.
43:08 ~ 1/12/2006 8:43:53 AM ~ Schmidt - WY
has been charged to get this started, but I don't think that the gov is really
enthusiastic about it. p. 16 -
exception reqs. - p. 22- 8 IT people that are constantly needed training p. 23 - enormous amt of printing #5 -
48:11 ~ 1/12/2006 8:48:57 AM ~ Hines - Any
questions about the IT portion?
48:43 ~ 1/12/2006 8:49:29 AM ~ Job - How did
gov sort all of this out?
49:01 ~ 1/12/2006 8:49:47 AM ~ Schmidt - All
req. were run through Biggio's office and that is where you saw changes. Moving on to pg. 32 - cigarette taxation -
have found some contraband around state
With travel we know that it has increased - gov denied some of it- p. 33 - out of state travel costs have gone
up
53:46 ~ 1/12/2006 8:54:31 AM ~ Anderson - Is
this an inc. in travel or an inc. in travel costs?
54:05 ~ 1/12/2006 8:54:51 AM ~ Schmidt -
This is inc in cost of travel.
54:41 ~ 1/12/2006 8:55:26 AM ~ Warren - What
is the training for the cig. inspectors?
55:20 ~ 1/12/2006 8:56:05 AM ~ Riner - We
have had lots of training in how to find contraband, etc. 2000 cartons since June.
56:11 ~ 1/12/2006 8:56:57 AM ~ Job - Since
raised cost of cigs has the consumption gone down?
56:36 ~ 1/12/2006 8:57:22 AM ~ Riner - It
has gone down 1%, but that may be cross border sales, etc. It is hard to tell.
57:14 ~ 1/12/2006 8:58:00 AM ~ Schmidt - p.
34- label makers, etc. Minerals and
Excise together - tried to find vendor that could blend together Excise in
92-93 we got some money to go with another co.
By '95 Anderson was fired by Johnny Burton- then we developed an
in-house system - it has worked very well, but it is time to develop a new one. It takes years to get the system
together. Many of our systems can't be
audited- have to do it manually. Would
like to have a system that we could use more easily to get info you need. Have
developed a booklet so that we can be ready to do RFD in July. Want to get this done in '07. Gov and CIO
were worried about taking all of this on all at time you are trying to get CAMA
system going, but it has to be done.
We have two people in IT, but one is here on green card waiting for
citizenship. State doesn't pay very
much and they may be hired out from under us. Use to have 7900 accounts in
mineral system and now have over 40K.
If we need to run a batch we have to have everyone off-line. People do at night and come in on weekends. Need to get started on new system as soon as
possible. Had to have # to come ask
committee. Went out and tried to find
system that could have module for each of tax systems. - Found vendor in Idaho
that has one that runs 37 diff. systems.
Need to have the latest and greatest.
Sent some up there to look at the Dot Net Architecture- don't know if
we'll buy . Any cost savings if you
have system that can do others. Asked DOT to come along because they collect
fuel taxes.
1:13:23 ~
1/12/2006 9:14:08 AM ~ Anderson - Is there a life expectancy for this system?
1:13:46 ~
1/12/2006 9:14:32 AM ~ Knutson - They usually say about 5 years.
1:13:59 ~
1/12/2006 9:14:45 AM ~ Simpson - is the CAMA system the Dot Net Architecture?
1:14:20 ~
1/12/2006 9:15:06 AM ~ Hall- It is on an Oracle platform, but will move to dot
net in a few years.
1:14:54 ~
1/12/2006 9:15:40 AM ~ Simpson - How cost effective is that movement?
1:15:09 ~
1/12/2006 9:15:55 AM ~ Hall - Currently the Oracle is still state of the art
and much of these can be moved. We
don't know when that will be. They are
moving along that way.
1:16:49 ~
1/12/2006 9:17:34 AM ~ Schmidt - p. 40 minerals tax division
1:17:38 ~
1/12/2006 9:18:23 AM ~ Meuli - What is the standard in state for rotation of
computers?
1:17:56 ~
1/12/2006 9:18:42 AM ~ Knutson- State usually does 4 yrs, but we had a
maintenance prog. that goes on three yrs.
1:18:37 ~
1/12/2006 9:19:23 AM ~ Schmidt - p. 48 - Ad Valorem Division - Property Tax
Division - Courses taught have gone up -
Our people have to do a lot more travel than they used to do. It is based on so many man hours in each
county. I'll give you a break out. Send out a team to each Assessors office to
help them. I need to be more aggressive
that dept has been in the past. The
$600K was denied last time, but we really need to get this to help out the
counties. We have been having people
travel to get training, but it has been very costly and we need to find a way
to help these counties. Asked county
assessors assoc. how to disperse this money.
Some counties don't need the money and I would like to be able to give
it to the poorer counties - plug gaps where it is really necessary. This is a statewide program. Lots of associated cost that no one could
have foreseen. That is the
proposal. Please consider this issue.
#4 - want to initiate more education courses for our people
1:32:22 ~
1/12/2006 9:33:07 AM ~ Hall - the subsequent yrs. of CAMA support @$600K per
year - this would inc. modifications to system and all of the other support
systems. Once you are in system you
have to pay for up grades to keep system
to keep up to date or if there is something the legislature changes
during the year.
1:35:15 ~
1/12/2006 9:36:01 AM ~ Meuli - Have you inc. all costs to counties so that they
could get their systems up and running?
1:35:56 ~
1/12/2006 9:36:42 AM ~ Schmindt - These costs are on-going. Hard number to come to grips with.
1:36:47 ~
1/12/2006 9:37:32 AM ~ Meuli - Do you have any figures from the counties that
have their's in place?
1:37:36 ~
1/12/2006 9:38:21 AM ~ Schmidt - We have plans to completely reimburse.
1:37:59 ~
1/12/2006 9:38:44 AM ~ Anderson - Do you know have some concerns about being
able to manage all of these systems, etc???? Do you have enough support to be
able to get all done that you need to do?
1:39:15 ~
1/12/2006 9:40:00 AM ~ Schmidt - That is of concern. They are scheduling a training course to help all the directors
with the IT stuff. I think admin is
trying to help us in this area. CIO is
working on this. Liquor div p. 60 -
want to convert 3 AWEC positions, gov only gave me 1. Gov asked to work w/ A
& I on the maintenance.
1:44:31 ~
1/12/2006 9:45:16 AM ~ Case - has been criticism on storage of wine- what are
we doing about that?
1:45:36 ~
1/12/2006 9:46:21 AM ~ Pomeroy - we currently
not doing anything about it.
Something that we may need to look at in the future.
1:46:47 ~
1/12/2006 9:47:32 AM ~ Nicholas - when we look at business ready communities
we'll let Teton County have the wine industry
1:48:16 ~
1/12/2006 9:49:01 AM ~ Case - this is a big deal- we need to do a good job.
1:48:40 ~
1/12/2006 9:49:25 AM ~ Schmidt- need to replace fax machines- lots of orders
come in this way. Revenues have
increased every year. Last year we had
7Mil last year.
1:50:40 ~
1/12/2006 9:51:25 AM ~ Pomeroy - About 30 mil in wine and 7 mil for liquor.
1:51:04 ~
1/12/2006 9:51:49 AM ~ Nicholas - W/what Case has talked about - since you have
more wine you should have state of art facilities and maybe we should look at
this.
1:52:23 ~
1/12/2006 9:53:08 AM ~ Schmidt - What about transportation - some of trucks are
not refrigerated. Alcohol server
training program - trained to spot underage - many have enacted ordinances and
they have to be trained. We consider
that as one of our social responsibilities to work on that.
1:54:57 ~
1/12/2006 9:55:43 AM ~ Jones - What is the compliance rate since we have
enacted this?
1:55:46 ~
1/12/2006 9:56:32 AM ~ Odekohr- This is our 3rd year and this is the yr. that
we should be able to look at this.
1:56:27 ~
1/12/2006 9:57:12 AM ~ Warren - Ques on training- what training has been done,
how many have been trained???
1:56:52 ~
1/12/2006 9:57:37 AM ~ Pomeroy - certify 2500 throughout state - nat. course
called TIPS- 4 hr course - have coord. through the state - some areas are not
getting as much training. Owners are to
take it as well.
1:58:40 ~
1/12/2006 9:59:26 AM ~ Warren - have a tracking of just what has been
done. Would like documentation.
1:59:13 ~
1/12/2006 9:59:59 AM ~ Case - Is this training that came out of Edward's bill?
1:59:39 ~
1/12/2006 10:00:24 AM ~ Pomeroy - We began training in '97 and got money from
legislature last yr. Lot of money was
grants and couldn't count on having it so now we get money from legislature.
2:00:33 ~
1/12/2006 10:01:19 AM ~ Schmidt - last part - p.72 p.75 - enterprise funds
2:01:57 ~
1/12/2006 10:02:43 AM ~ Job - When transfers are made how do you know when the
monies are transfered and some are just spent?
2:02:35 ~
1/12/2006 10:03:20 AM ~ McVey- Have to look at object code assoc. w/
appropriation.
2:03:07 ~
1/12/2006 10:03:53 AM ~ Schmidt - p. 42 - I missed 1 item - $57,500 w/ mineral
division- we have no litigation monies so we need to have this.
2:05:27 ~
1/12/2006 10:06:12 AM ~ Hines- Thank you.
We'll take a 10 minute break and then we'll take on the Attorney
General.
2:06:18 ~
1/12/2006 10:07:02 AM ~ Pause
2:06:18 ~
1/12/2006 10:20:22 AM ~ Resume
2:06:28 ~
1/12/2006 10:20:32 AM ~ Welcome AG Crank
2:06:38 ~
1/12/2006 10:20:42 AM ~ Crank - highlight office operation and progress, We are
a service organization, lots of time with agencies and legialators, county
attorneys are here, victim services, fulfilling mission. .Have completed move
to Pioneer Bldg. 4 of 6 attorneys are there, Water will move in Feb. 2 tenants with leases when building was purchased
remain, obstruct completion of dept. move.
2:08:51 ~
1/12/2006 10:22:55 AM ~ Crank - lawsuit for State Hospital, $15,000 spent and
motion to dismiss has completed. Access
to patient records HIPA. We agreed on law.
Successful in steming turnover
2:10:38 ~
1/12/2006 10:24:42 AM ~ Simpson -PNA suits, update please on Mental Health
2:11:08 ~
1/12/2006 10:25:12 AM ~ Crank -just figuring out language from Committee's
activity. As AG, I'm like an
Environmental engineer. People are
enjoyingwork and having fun. During 2005, about 1/2 of all contractsbeing done
by Contracts unit. Hope to move all
contracts to this unit. Mike O'Donnel
just completed 6 week trial on School Funding.
Was an unnescessary litigation, based upon past, not on new schedule.
2:14:10 ~
1/12/2006 10:28:14 AM ~ Crank - Painful funding, reorganization by President
did away with local law enforcement grants, etc. Congress overrode this and restored about 1/2 of funding we had
relied upon. $2.4m in ff were lost this biennium. Shut down 2 satellite offices, curtailed overtime and personnel
costs. Legislature's last HB308 was our saving grace and was applied to by
local units for operating funds to DCI. Replaced ff lost. DCI operation to be generally funded in
budget.
2:17:00 ~ 1/12/2006
10:31:04 AM ~ Crank - Law Enforcement Academy going well, even though director
took law enforcement job in Jackson.
We are searching for a replacement, Sen. Anderson on committee to
screen.
2:18:16 ~
1/12/2006 10:32:20 AM ~ Crank - Victim Services Gov. Council on Disabilities
working hard. Within a week of
purchasing Pioneer Bldg. Brenda Oswald had toured and noted lack of electronic
door openers.
2:19:42 ~
1/12/2006 10:33:46 AM ~ Crank - Contract Attorneys? We do most of legal work in house, had 2 contract attorneys on
School lawsuit to help Mike O. Contract
attorney hired on a conflict of interest case.
MT proposing codes to require WY CBM producers to reintroduce
water. Have about 6 contract attorneys
where conflict situations exist.
2:22:20 ~
1/12/2006 10:36:24 AM ~ Crank - AG's office responds as quickly as
possible. I am proud to be AG and proud
of staff and working with legislators, agency head. Numbers - completed 8,551 contracts, DCI cases = 772 in 2005 up
over 100 cases. 759 arrests in 2005
also up.
2:25:04 ~
1/12/2006 10:39:08 AM ~ Crank - Opinion requests = 138 in 2005, large increase,
required to issue opinions during session, but now do a lot of opinions for
interim committees. Workers Comp
recoveries $3.4m which goes back into WC program.
2:27:11 ~
1/12/2006 10:41:15 AM ~ Simpson - Please give us a copy of the numbers you have
been giving us for our use on the floor. W Comp litigation - medical nurses
will review claim and approve or deny.
Staff for medical opinions, not much for legal opinions. Opportunity to work with?
2:28:40 ~
1/12/2006 10:42:44 AM ~ Crank -hunch, if legal advice, they can ask, but we are
not heavily involved in that stage.
When decision is made, we do represent.
2:29:28 ~
1/12/2006 10:43:32 AM ~ Simpson - someone should look at opinions to see if
they should have been addressed at the hearings -
2:30:21 ~
1/12/2006 10:44:25 AM ~ Crank - should be more precise
2:30:43 ~
1/12/2006 10:44:47 AM ~ Warren - $3m recovered, please explain
2:30:59 ~
1/12/2006 10:45:03 AM ~ Crank-if person has received all medical pmts. from
WComp, payments from civil litigation to reimburse fraudulant claims. Keep track with tobacco settlements and
Medicaid reimbursement $652K. GF gets
this money.
2:32:49 ~
1/12/2006 10:46:53 AM ~ Crank - Budget $10m, includes Medical Review Panel, Big
Horn adjudication, prepare for continuing school litigation, school cap
con. Did not seek a supplemental budget
last year. Bodies? Requests 11 new positions 5 in DCI, 1 in
Child Pornography, 1 Crime Lab and
2:35:20 ~
1/12/2006 10:49:24 AM ~ Nicholas - Pioneer Bldgs. how many attorneys are outside building, room for them if leases
end and when?
2:35:47 ~
1/12/2006 10:49:51 AM ~ Crank - 66 or 67 attorneys, all but tort attorneys -12
in P. Bldg. We will fit, and it will be
tight. It is a nice building. Larger offices have been remodeled into
smaller offices. Fannie Mae 2007 lease,
Corporations Today expires
Fannie Mae occupies a large section of one floor. Until they move, we can't do much more.
2:37:43 ~
1/12/2006 10:51:47 AM ~ Nicholas - benefits of having attorneys together?
2:37:57 ~
1/12/2006 10:52:01 AM ~ Crank - client satisfaction, no one has yelled at me,
no complaints about accessibility to attorney.
Benefit to young attorneys in mix with older attorneys, good mix.
2:39:17 ~
1/12/2006 10:53:21 AM ~ Nicholas - your office in Capitol, should it be there?
2:39:33 ~
1/12/2006 10:53:37 AM ~ Crank - 75 - 100 e-mails received daily, I communicate
a lot with 6 deputies, and try to get over there. I think I am accessible.
2:40:22 ~
1/12/2006 10:54:26 AM ~ Nicholas - should AG be with them and go to Gov. as a
travelling.
2:40:58 ~
1/12/2006 10:55:02 AM ~ Crank - Gov. likes having me next door. I get back to attorneys to consult. I
get more work done, let them be good lawyers.
2:42:05 ~
1/12/2006 10:56:09 AM ~ Nicholas - Section 0900s? Rename Pioneer Bldg. to Crank
Castle?
2:42:41 ~
1/12/2006 10:56:45 AM ~ Crank - did not sign that.
2:43:15 ~
1/12/2006 10:57:19 AM ~ Crank - Auditor's office requests expenses that may not
truly be 900 issues. We reimburse
cities for costs, not a pure contractural issue. Bulk of 900 costs. We
have to pay filing fees when we file a law suit.
2:45:11 ~
1/12/2006 10:59:15 AM ~ Nicholas - About 1/5 of budget.
2:45:59 ~
1/12/2006 11:00:03 AM ~ Simpson - Service fees upwards of $1,000
2:46:20 ~
1/12/2006 11:00:24 AM ~ Mr. Petrie - process fees, replenish account on a
monthly basis.
2:46:54 ~
1/12/2006 11:00:58 AM ~ Simpson - what expenditure modification?
2:47:12 ~
1/12/2006 11:01:16 AM ~ Petrie JAG grant for DCI, grants received much later
than spending period - 7 months. We pay expenses eligible under grant, then
move when receive $.
2:48:03 ~
1/12/2006 11:02:07 AM ~ Crank - p. 9
Exception - cost allocation model in Law Office,99% GF doesn't account for cost
allocation model, we will be 79% GF, 2% special funding, 17% agency funding if
adopt this budget.
2:50:05 ~
1/12/2006 11:04:09 AM ~ Crank - Gov. denied pay raises for attorneys.
2:51:09 ~
1/12/2006 11:05:13 AM ~ Nicholas - x-band money put in by Gov. for this?
2:51:35 ~
1/12/2006 11:05:39 AM ~ Crank - merit adjustments thru x-band, is there enough
$ for this purpose?
2:52:00 ~
1/12/2006 11:06:04 AM ~ Crank - I understand there is.
2:52:12 ~
1/12/2006 11:06:16 AM ~ Nicholas - reason of not knowing?
2:52:28 ~
1/12/2006 11:06:32 AM ~ Crank - wide range in agency pmt. to attorneys. $64,000 pd to 20 year attorneys saving gov.
lots of $, hesitent to know if there is adequate $.
2:53:40 ~
1/12/2006 11:07:44 AM ~ Crank - Gov. rejected priorities 1 - 3.
2:54:03 ~
1/12/2006 11:08:07 AM ~ Crank - #4 approved by Gov. for Leg. generally fund,
and if FF come available, it is to be pd. by FF. #5 denied by Gov. in for
paralegal.
2:55:46 ~
1/12/2006 11:09:50 AM ~ Crank - #6&7 were combined, Gov. approved attorney,
denied support position. We have tried
to do job with existing staff, cannot, we need it to work just on contracts. Did do away with one attorney in contracts,
now need it.
2:57:52 ~
1/12/2006 11:11:56 AM ~ Crank #8 new attorney in Licensing Bd. - have 1
attorney, required by law to separate 2 functions. Personnel attorneys are now doing this work. Personnel attorneys do an excellent
job. Huge potential for law suits in #
of employees in state. Need to get them
back into function. 292 files opened in 2005 in Licensing Bd.
3:01:05 ~
1/12/2006 11:15:09 AM ~ Crank #9 & #10 Gov denied.
3:01:34 ~
1/12/2006 11:15:38 AM ~ Warren - county functions?
3:01:59 ~
1/12/2006 11:16:03 AM ~ Crank - it is a county function, parental termination
action a function of county. We thought
we would lose ff not moving kids. 2
attorneys and paralegal have eased this.
Prioritization matter, counties do not have resources so we help out.
3:04:03 ~
1/12/2006 11:18:07 AM ~ Crank - #11 Special Prosecution Account, have received
requests from 3 counties this year, $300K at start of biennium requested.
3:05:11 ~
1/12/2006 11:19:15 AM ~ Warren - when counties request assistance, difference
in ability to pay back. Ability of county? How determined
allocation?
3:05:56 ~
1/12/2006 11:20:00 AM ~ Crank - Rules were written about reimbursement. Budgeted amount in county budget. Can't play favorites.
3:06:49 ~
1/12/2006 11:20:53 AM ~ Crank - WESLAW research, used to bill back to agencies
for costs. We do not bill back for
computer research
3:07:42 ~
1/12/2006 11:21:46 AM ~ Nicholas - price out FLEXUS?
3:07:56 ~
1/12/2006 11:22:00 AM ~ Crank - WESLAW best fit for office
3:08:17 ~
1/12/2006 11:22:21 AM ~ Nicholas - look at both when contract to be
renegotiated?
3:08:32 ~
1/12/2006 11:22:36 AM ~ Crank - Yes
Requested increase for travel to cover our costs which used to be pd. by
counties.
3:09:16 ~
1/12/2006 11:23:20 AM ~ Crank - Knowledge management system, no one had put
opinions/briefs into computerized data base.
We did this inhouse, slow.
Investigating system associated with WESLAW which will take all
historical documents and input from different programs. Access to all computer work done to
date. Slow and cannot be integrated
into database.
3:11:32 ~
1/12/2006 11:25:36 AM ~ Nicholas - management system which can be maintained,
or will you have to pay management fees. You cam have WESLAW maintain or?
3:12:37 ~
1/12/2006 11:26:41 AM ~ Berger - need additional staff?
3:12:52 ~
1/12/2006 11:26:56 AM ~ Crank- took all data and input into homegrown
system. Should not need additional
staff for work already done.
3:13:31 ~
1/12/2006 11:27:35 AM ~ Crank-#15, p. 18
GR approval & CIO #16 approved #17 approved !18 permanently assigned
vehicles? Awarded 1/2 #19 telephone wiring in Pioneer Bldg. approved
3:16:06 ~
1/12/2006 11:30:10 AM ~ Crank - p. 26 MVMS same discussion
3:16:38 ~
1/12/2006 11:30:42 AM ~ Crank - p.29-30 School Finance Litigation, $3m+
funding, difficult to fill position at will, convert 1 to ft employee and to
hire experts if necessary.
3:18:35 ~
1/12/2006 11:32:39 AM ~ Simpson - Hytrek?
3:18:47 ~
1/12/2006 11:32:51 AM ~ Crank - would transfer her over. When under a time crunch, we had 5-6 AWEC's
inputting documents. Law students used
at time.
3:20:02 ~
1/12/2006 11:34:06 AM ~ Simpson - future of school litigation & your
office? 20+ years old, plus willingness
to sue. Are we fine to handle as now,
maintain quality of attorneys needed.
Future needs?
3:21:02 ~
1/12/2006 11:35:06 AM ~ Crank-have had same 2 attorneys on it for 2 years. Problem is in support staff
3:21:30 ~
1/12/2006 11:35:34 AM ~ Nicholas - standard budget/exception - switched funding
or new funding?
3:21:57 ~
1/12/2006 11:36:01 AM ~ Crank in 2005 we spent about $1.2m. Contract Council is very expensive.
3:23:34 ~
1/12/2006 11:37:38 AM ~ Nicholas - time to revisit to make permanent this line
for resident testimonial experts, etc.
Have trouble with hiring outside experts to look at our problems. Should have in house expertise.
3:24:42 ~
1/12/2006 11:38:46 AM ~ Crank - cannot disagree.
3:24:52 ~
1/12/2006 11:38:56 AM ~ Nicholas - time to think about where we will be 1 - 10
years from now.
3:25:18 ~
1/12/2006 11:39:22 AM ~ Crank - p. 33 - denied by gov. p. 35 DCI need to fund
DCI at outset to avoid withdrawing ff. Hopefully, many items would be replaced
by ff as time goes on. Loss of $2.4m ff
last year. Expect during this biennium
$1.2 - $1.8m, if successful we would be 17% ff.
3:29:16 ~
1/12/2006 11:43:20 AM ~ Crank - DCI add 6 new employees, p. 38, Gov. approved, all to be repaid by ff if
available. #2 Agents working 35 hrs. of
overtime, asking for overtime replaced by ff.
3:31:33 ~
1/12/2006 11:45:37 AM ~ Warren - overtime?
3:32:13 ~
1/12/2006 11:46:17 AM ~ Crank - saturated with cases, have not asked since 1998
for a new drug agent. We are getting as
much out of agents as possible. #4 & #5 approved w/ff.
3:34:41 ~
1/12/2006 11:48:45 AM ~ Anderson - overtime - many requests went to local level
overtime, too.
3:36:50 ~
1/12/2006 11:50:54 AM ~ Simpson - adjustments Special Revenue - what is local
funds match?
3:37:56 ~
1/12/2006 11:52:00 AM ~ Crank - put up 1/2 from special revenue to match local.
Some chiefs sent some in. Going forward
there will be no match requirement.
3:39:06 ~
1/12/2006 11:53:10 AM ~ Simpson -
replace Byrne Grant?
3:39:36 ~
1/12/2006 11:53:40 AM ~ Crank - people do pay bills, may still pay match.
3:39:51 ~
1/12/2006 11:53:55 AM ~ Crank - $360,000 request for tires.
3:40:24 ~
1/12/2006 11:54:28 AM ~ Crank - #7 - gov. approved 5 of 7 requested drug agents
to be spread out across state.
Extractive industries, Campbell County, etc. seeing large increase in criminal activity, 2 to be in Rock Springs, 1 in Pindale, 1 in Casper,
replace Jackson agent stolen for Pinedale, 1 in Gillette.
3:42:23 ~
1/12/2006 11:56:27 AM ~ Crank #8 Internet Crimes Against Children, Gov approved
1. We have best ICAC unit in
nation. Amazing, 90 search warrents we
couln't get to. Need 1 more agent. Disgusting world out there.
3:44:16 ~
1/12/2006 11:58:20 AM ~ Crank - #9 Denied telecommunications expert. #10 denied
- ok with us. #11 gave 1/2 request #12 approved undercover #13 Drug testing in DCI not funded to
establish, $24,000, Gov. approved #14 Crime scene supplies, gov. approved #15
Out of and in-state travel approved #16 Computer support equipment, gov.
approved #17 training, approved
3:48:10 ~
1/12/2006 12:02:14 PM ~ Anderson - highly specialized group.
3:48:35 ~
1/12/2006 12:02:39 PM ~ Curt Dobbs - Special agent training done out of state
3:49:01 ~
1/12/2006 12:03:05 PM ~ Simpson - #7 Could you have hired?
3:49:38 ~
1/12/2006 12:03:42 PM ~ Crank - would not have had positions
3:49:50 ~ 1/12/2006
12:03:54 PM ~ Simpson - why Gov. denied admin asst.?
3:50:11 ~
1/12/2006 12:04:15 PM ~ Crank - asking for a lot, other task forces do have
3:50:30 ~
1/12/2006 12:04:34 PM ~ Meuli - impacted counties will get most employees/
3:50:52 ~
1/12/2006 12:04:56 PM ~ Crank - yes, Jackson only exception. Try to have 2 DCI agents in each location.
3:51:42 ~
1/12/2006 12:05:46 PM ~ Job - Internet, does staff also get trained on how to
handle stress from ugly side of life?
3:52:07 ~
1/12/2006 12:06:11 PM ~
3:52:50 ~
1/12/2006 12:06:54 PM ~ Crank - regularly see psychiatrists regularly, and as
needed, transfer out if needed.
3:53:30 ~
1/12/2006 12:07:33 PM ~ Pause
3:53:30 ~
1/12/2006 1:02:56 PM ~ Resume
3:53:30 ~
1/12/2006 1:02:56 PM ~ Hines - break for lunch, start again with AG at 1:00.
3:53:48 ~
1/12/2006 1:03:13 PM ~ Crank - p. 51 - Req. for crime lab positions Have worked hard to improve our DNA
unit- Took such a long time to
advertise for position, interview, hire and train.
3:57:48 ~
1/12/2006 1:07:14 PM ~ Meuli - what is your turnaround time?
3:58:04 ~
1/12/2006 1:07:30 PM ~ Crank - Cases vary so widely depending on case. I can
report back to you. County attorneys
are really frustrated about this and keeps them from doing their job. Rich Spencer , head of crime lab, didn't
ask him to come over. It took us two
full years to get 3 people up and ready to go.
4:01:37 ~
1/12/2006 1:11:03 PM ~ Meuli - They are all certified and meet FBI req.??
4:01:54 ~
1/12/2006 1:11:20 PM ~ Crank - that is my understanding Priority #3 - lab
instrumentation - gov approved -CODIS horrible backlog - That is where we
really need to be. We can really get
there and solve some crimes. #6 -
4:05:24 ~
1/12/2006 1:14:50 PM ~ Meuli - Are we competitive with other states? We usually train them and then they go
somewhere else.
4:06:05 ~
1/12/2006 1:15:31 PM ~ Crank - We are hoping that we can retain them. Haven't heard any salary issues. #8 - Hardware, software & training #9 -
Upgrade/replacement of laboratory instrumentation #10 - upgrade/replacement of
crime scene response equipment #11-
upgrade/replacement of lab security equipment #12 - more in-state travel and
more out-of-state travel
4:09:18 ~
1/12/2006 1:18:44 PM ~ Meuli - Noticed that gov denied the cameras -if you
don't have these cameras can you reconstruct a crime scene??
4:10:06 ~
1/12/2006 1:19:31 PM ~ Crank - I think that budget office our request in
another place. p. 60 - #1 CJIS - these personnel used to be funded by fed.
funds and we need to have these from gen. funds. #2, CJIS director- gov denied
#3 Computer equipment replacement #6 - Integrated justice system that we
presented to you a couple of weeks ago-
we are going to use some Homeland Security - Supreme Court is going to
give some funds for this project also #7 - Re-write WYLIEN Skipped #4 - & 5
- AS400 software--DCMI contract #8 - Applicant tracking system #9 - Livescan
replacement #10 - Contracted wiring services #11 Telecommunications charges #12
- In-state & out of state travel
pg. 72 - Priority #1 - ongoing litigation - asking to transfer from
water development budget in Big Horn p.
77 - Law enforcement academy want
funding for outreach, training supervisor- we have been finding way to pay his
salary because he is a valuable employee.
Gov denied. #3- Food costs have gone up #4 - Out-of-state travel #5-
Registration fees #6 - Two police-pkg. sedans #7 -210 classroom chairs #8 -
Emergency vehicle operations skid-car frame #9 -57 Dormitory twin mattersses
#10 - Computer Equipment #11 - Housekeeping Equipment #12- Heavy-dut 4 wheel
drive pickup #13- Vehicle supplies #14 - Edu. supplies #15 - Office equip #16 -
In-state travel #17 - Permanenetly assigned vehicles #18 - Telecommunications
charges #19- Indoor firearms range retrofit #20 - Asphalt overlays and repairs
- denied #21 - Replacement of domestic hot water heater Peace officer STDS
& Training comm #1 - Permanently assigned vehicles #2 - In-state and
out-of-state travel Medical Review Panel
#1 - Funding for first bien of operations Victim services division #1 - Community prog. specialist #2
replacement of claims processing system #3 - In-state and out-of-state
travel #4 - Perm. assigned vehicles #5
- computer hardware
4:40:26 ~
1/12/2006 1:49:51 PM ~ Rep. Berger - have rec. lots of e-mail - victim services
division has asked that they want more money.
4:42:29 ~
1/12/2006 1:51:55 PM ~ Job - has this not been a problem - why didn't that get
included?
4:43:09 ~
1/12/2006 1:52:35 PM ~ Crank - after I submitted my budget they wanted more
money. If you add some this year it
will become part of the standard budget, but the directors need to come to me
earlier Developmental disabilities
program # 1 -Crossroads media program - #2 - Inc. funding for council
sub-grants #3 - In-state and out of state travel
4:46:46 ~
1/12/2006 1:56:12 PM ~ Meuli - How much of this is also in the health dept
budget?
4:47:12 ~
1/12/2006 1:56:38 PM ~ Crank - I don' t know.
4:47:45 ~
1/12/2006 1:57:11 PM ~ Crank - #4 - Computer hardware #5 - State funding to
replace known fed. funding
4:48:39 ~
1/12/2006 1:58:04 PM ~ Simpson - how much is in the confiscation fund?
4:49:13 ~
1/12/2006 1:58:39 PM ~ Crank - I don't know.
4:51:24 ~
1/12/2006 2:00:50 PM ~ Nicholas - How were you going to reward these attorneys?
4:51:48 ~
1/12/2006 2:01:13 PM ~ Crank - We were wanting to give my attorneys a bonus or
some kind of increase.
4:53:49 ~
1/12/2006 2:03:15 PM ~ Simpson - on voca grants that help the CASA advocates -
Has anyone approached your office about CASA funding?
4:54:59 ~
1/12/2006 2:04:25 PM ~ Crank - not that I'm aware of.
4:55:28 ~
1/12/2006 2:04:54 PM ~ Simpson - Would you please let us know about the VOCA
funds?
4:56:16 ~
1/12/2006 2:05:42 PM ~ Hines - let's move to our next agency, County and
prosecuting attorney
4:56:43 ~
1/12/2006 2:06:09 PM ~ Crank - County attorneys office asked me to put in a
request for raises. Gov couldn't
approve the request.
4:58:03 ~
1/12/2006 2:07:29 PM ~ Greer - Not speaking on behalf of organization- Mike
Blonigan from Casper is here to support this request. As stop gap measure- some
wanted to have this changed. This same
configuration has been in existence for the last 25 years. Main goal is to create a level playing
field. Having hard time getting ones to
stay in county. We can't compete with
the US attorney and don't really want to.
5:08:10 ~
1/12/2006 2:17:35 PM ~ Nicholas - are there any counties that have not
converted?
5:09:00 ~
1/12/2006 2:18:25 PM ~ Greer - from Unita county - we are above the pay from
other counties
5:10:01 ~
1/12/2006 2:19:27 PM ~ Hines - is currently 50K the cap??
5:11:30 ~
1/12/2006 2:20:55 PM ~ Simpson - Read the statute
5:12:21 ~
1/12/2006 2:21:46 PM ~ Greer - one of things that we're being hit hard now is
meth labs and these offices are really getting stacked up.
5:13:42 ~
1/12/2006 2:23:07 PM ~ Simpson - Could AG brief us with what Big Horn county
had going on. Crank - The county
attorney became incapacitated & I had to send several attorneys up to help
them out.
5:15:09 ~
1/12/2006 2:24:34 PM ~ Pause
5:15:09 ~
1/12/2006 2:39:45 PM ~ Resume
5:15:09 ~
1/12/2006 2:39:45 PM ~
5:15:39 ~
1/12/2006 2:40:15 PM ~ Kabeiseman - do Telecom Council first, p. 193 and Dr.
Cornell to address budget to allow Director back on road.
5:18:07 ~
1/12/2006 2:42:43 PM ~ Cornell, thank you broadband issues, satellite may or
may not be able to keep up. Next steps to examine how to expand in sparsely
populated areas, flaws, embark on educational effort on importance to WY's
future, shrink distance, budget for this.
5:20:31 ~
1/12/2006 2:45:08 PM ~ Biggio p. 193 no staff requested, p. 194 anticipate same
vendor to support., Gov. denied #2 #3 supplement council, denied money in CIO
budget for travel. Last yr. Sen. Case
sponsored forum which was well received.
Forum sponsorship fees, only for attendance fees for council.
5:23:43 ~
1/12/2006 2:48:19 PM ~ Biggio - address barriers contract for from 900 series
funds.
5:24:10 ~
1/12/2006 2:48:47 PM ~ Hines - total cost $100m future - time anticipation?
5:24:34 ~
1/12/2006 2:49:10 PM ~ Cornell - $100m to fill all gaps. Not genuinely a govt. expenditure. Looking
at ways that hinder private enterprise from getting broadband. Private enterprise will be the one that
provides broadband, not a request of Govt.
5:27:05 ~
1/12/2006 2:51:41 PM ~ Jorgensen - incentivization
5:27:39 ~
1/12/2006 2:52:15 PM ~ Cornell - non-market incentives, competition causes
goading each other on.
5:28:23 ~
1/12/2006 2:52:59 PM ~ Thank you .
5:28:39 ~
1/12/2006 2:53:16 PM ~ Kabeiseman - prepared to stay as long as you are. Denise
Farrell, Rory Horsley, Mr. Atwood, Brian Foster, Rich Cathcart and Nancy
5:29:42 ~
1/12/2006 2:54:18 PM ~ Kabeiseman - process?
5:29:53 ~
1/12/2006 2:54:30 PM ~ Hines go thru exception budget
5:30:04 ~
1/12/2006 2:54:40 PM ~ Kabeiseman - p 14 is a pick up error correction. Server
p. 15 # 3 Travel & Moving expenses new to budget, originally $40,000 for
travel expenses, capped at $5,000 ea.
New directors ask for help to attract candidates, in A&I budget,
agency would request funding, at discretion of Agency Director. Gov. approved #4 Internal funds switch to
GF, to make smoother transition of funds.
5:34:49 ~
1/12/2006 2:59:26 PM ~ Nicholas implementation, agencies that alredy provide
expenses, or buying out homes?
5:35:23 ~
1/12/2006 2:59:59 PM ~ Kabeiseman - none that buy homes, none moving expenses,
some do assist travel
5:36:05 ~
1/12/2006 3:00:41 PM ~ Brent Tosher - if move internally, they do have a plan
to buy homes if moving within agency.
5:36:56 ~
1/12/2006 3:01:32 PM ~ Anderson - Law Enforcement Acadamy - apps from all over
country. AskA&I?
5:37:50 ~
1/12/2006 3:02:26 PM ~ Kabeiseman - yes.
5:38:00 ~
1/12/2006 3:02:36 PM ~ Rory Horsley-transfers directly to GF and will show up
in future budgets.
5:38:41 ~
1/12/2006 3:03:18 PM ~ Kabeiseman -copiers phased out. No longer need program. p.27 Licensing Board's Legal - training in budget, a net to zero
adjustment from 881 series #2 denial by Gov. p. 33 1 & 2 approed. p.39
change funding source to GF from IT funds. gov. approved p. 43 Surplus Property
- no longer self-sufficient, over 1/2 picking up and disposing things, not
recover costs. Leg. gave funding for
pilot project. 6 months now. Asking for funding for biennium, used to
have 6 positions, now have 3, act as broker for federal side. Pick up property across country, and charge
fee or have political subdivision pick up.
Federal surplus coming out of military, not as much is available as it
is used in war effort. Downsized version
of original request, but it does serve need.
5:46:51 ~
1/12/2006 3:11:27 PM ~ Simpson - procurement RFP's out on Internet listing
item. Don't post RFP's on line? Bidder application and be on list. Why isn't there a more transparent online
bid for buyers?
5:48:28 ~
1/12/2006 3:13:05 PM ~ Kabeiseman-do have criteria, pre-screen bids for
viability. Agency with material to be
sold is putting RFP and accepting bid.
5:51:08 ~
1/12/2006 3:15:44 PM ~ Simpson-can't find on line yet what state has for sale
5:51:28 ~
1/12/2006 3:16:04 PM ~ Kabeiseman -correct p. 55 risk standard budget approved
- AG office does most of our legal work.
We pay from c01 to correctly account.
Change of funding source.
5:53:15 ~
1/12/2006 3:17:51 PM ~ Nicholas - any kind of tort?
5:53:47 ~
1/12/2006 3:18:23 PM ~ Kabeiseman - not ligitation at prison, such claims as
broken windshield from rock, someone caused an accident, risk mgmt. section.
5:54:44 ~
1/12/2006 3:19:20 PM ~ Nicholas - all claims under tort claims act. Does this pay for damages?
5:55:13 ~
1/12/2006 3:19:49 PM ~ Kabeiseman - from this fund.
5:55:22 ~
1/12/2006 3:19:59 PM ~ Kabeiseman- central mail p. 61 $130K request for lease
to Pitney Bowles for mailing equipment compatability with US Postal
Service. Must upgrade to federal
guidelines to continue bulk mail rates.
5:56:56 ~
1/12/2006 3:21:33 PM ~ Kabeiseman - p. 67 vehicle replacement within this
biennium 255 vehicles, depreciation reserve account. 102 daily or weekly
vehicles 842 permanently assigned vehicles, 944 toal vehicles driven over 10m
miles.
5:58:31 ~
1/12/2006 3:23:07 PM ~ Warren - policy on replacement - hybrid vehicles being used by DEQ and being
evaluated. In next couple of years,
expect manufactures will be improving.
In WY are presently small and underpowered.
6:00:17 ~
1/12/2006 3:24:54 PM ~ Anderson - state encouraging car pooling, other programs
to cut usage of fuel and costs.
6:00:49 ~
1/12/2006 3:25:26 PM ~ Kabeiseman - costing each agency, urging using video
conferencing, evaluate travel. Get
speed reports on State vehicles, not
getting as many calls as 6 monts. Are
driving safer and conserving. MVMS
request for gasoline and parts, based cost on $3/gal. when budget was
prepared, prices down a little. If
gasoline spikes, supplemental request during session would be made.
6:04:25 ~
1/12/2006 3:29:01 PM ~ Kabeiseman - #2 FleetAnywhere software tracks each
vehicle, costs, approved
6:05:43 ~
1/12/2006 3:30:20 PM ~ Kabeiseman p. 75 General Services source of funding
approved p. 81 Facilites Operations, janitorial approved Section 2 Reduced
surplus property from 6 to 3 and transfer to custodial and grounds, have more
buildings, Pioneer Bldg., Corlett School, not new positionsw
6:08:13 ~
1/12/2006 3:32:50 PM ~ Meuli - surplus property, salary?
6:08:50 ~
1/12/2006 3:33:26 PM ~ Kabeiseman -
shut down surplus property, no funding p. 85 misspoke - there were 7 positions
in surplus property, requesting funding for HVAC technician. 1 of 7 positions
be funded p. 90 Utility $1,201,000 rate increase, gov. approved p. 93 Capitol
Construction
6:11:52 ~
1/12/2006 3:36:28 PM ~ Case - Black Hills questioned not a rate increase, was a
fuel adjustment
6:12:36 ~
1/12/2006 3:37:12 PM ~ Kabeiseman - not sure, but just told rate is rising.
6:13:09 ~
1/12/2006 3:37:46 PM ~ Case - need to talk with Black Hills, if pending, or
entire or part
6:13:38 ~
1/12/2006 3:38:14 PM ~ Kabeiseman - will do p93. Cap. Const. to discuss later
6:14:21 ~
1/12/2006 3:38:58 PM ~ Kabeiseman- p. 98 convert part time to full time person,
gov. approved p. 105
6:15:49 ~
1/12/2006 3:40:25 PM ~ Nicholas - look at lease and purchasing
6:16:05 ~
1/12/2006 3:40:41 PM ~ Cathcart, still maintaining lease, cost effective to
build capital facilities and put employees in state facilities, reduce lease
requirements aroound state.
6:16:56 ~
1/12/2006 3:41:33 PM ~ Hines - lease projected for next biennium
6:17:10 ~
1/12/2006 3:41:46 PM ~ Cathcard - yes
6:17:18 ~
1/12/2006 3:41:54 PM ~ Philp - if ff the state can get reimbursement if we provide
space.
6:17:40 ~
1/12/2006 3:42:16 PM ~ Cathcart, the fed. govt. does pay within limits. If state agencies in state owned space, the
feds. will pay their amt.
6:18:34 ~
1/12/2006 3:43:10 PM ~ Kabeiseman -106
salary, not new money, 1 position in copier program transferred to HR
division, GF $ full time employee.
6:19:42 ~
1/12/2006 3:44:18 PM ~ Meuli -hiring nurses, professional people,time to hire.
6:20:26 ~
1/12/2006 3:45:03 PM ~ Kabeiseman - dragging feet, many time agency requests 1
month ads. forwarded back to agency, 173 days worst, not A&I's fault.
6:21:28 ~
1/12/2006 3:46:04 PM ~ Brian Foster - current process, online process takes
less than 1 day to be on web site.
Apps. are screened within 3 days, 1 day to agency. Total amt. depends, minimum 2 weeks open,
can extend as wanted. Nursing open
specifically to hire quickly. 20 &
less days at HR. Feedback says time is
sufficient. Decrease timeframes to keep applicant from accepting other job.
6:24:18 ~
1/12/2006 3:48:55 PM ~ Kabeiseman -
getting up to 4,000 appls per month.
Cutting down time frames, pre-qualify.
No need to go thru every agency, only ones agency are interested in.
6:25:28 ~
1/12/2006 3:50:04 PM ~ Warren - what involved in pre-qualification?
6:25:48 ~
1/12/2006 3:50:24 PM ~ Kabeiseman - ensure that you meet minimum qualification
of job, not sent to agency.
6:26:14 ~
1/12/2006 3:50:50 PM ~ Warren - appl. how submit other documents, resume, e.g.
6:26:59 ~
1/12/2006 3:51:36 PM ~ Kabeiseman - up
to agency.
6:27:10 ~
1/12/2006 3:51:46 PM ~ Philp - copier program - are agencies doing own or
sending out to Kinko?
6:27:38 ~
1/12/2006 3:52:14 PM ~ Kabeiseman - vendor send bill to A&I, then we
collect. Now agency chooses type. You select, then vendor bills directly. Each agency is billed directly. No longer
need that copier person who used to bill depts.
6:29:55 ~
1/12/2006 3:54:32 PM ~ Philp - do agencies go to Kinkos?
6:30:11 ~
1/12/2006 3:54:48 PM ~ Kabeiseman - Yes, sometimes big jobs are cheaper to go
to Kinkos.
6:30:37 ~
1/12/2006 3:55:13 PM ~ Kabeiseman - Compensation pool
6:33:15 ~
1/12/2006 3:57:51 PM ~ Foster - market survey for attorney salaries
6:33:46 ~
1/12/2006 3:58:23 PM ~ Nicholas - some # to project, paying, please provide
info. Hear you are paying your entry
attorneys too much and seasoned lawyers not enough.
6:34:44 ~
1/12/2006 3:59:20 PM ~ Foster - will provide.
6:34:57 ~
1/12/2006 3:59:33 PM ~ Job - any fine print on x-scale employees, some
employees say they didn't get raise, separate operating agency?
6:35:52 ~
1/12/2006 4:00:29 PM ~ Foster - uner process no. Funding sources some may not get an allocation. Every employee should get it.
6:37:04 ~
1/12/2006 4:01:40 PM ~ Nicholas - AG and Gov. want bonuses for exemplary
performance, figure equitable distribution.
6:37:41 ~
1/12/2006 4:02:17 PM ~ Foster - still working on base salary to get
competitive, then use a updated competency scale for bonus that year.
6:38:58 ~
1/12/2006 4:03:34 PM ~ Nicholas - developing? funded?
6:39:08 ~
1/12/2006 4:03:45 PM ~ Foster - are developing now, not requested for funding,
within 2 months roll out, by next session should ask for appropriation.
6:39:54 ~
1/12/2006 4:04:30 PM ~ Job - paralegal, meet minimum
6:40:33 ~
1/12/2006 4:05:10 PM ~ Foster - doesn't matter which agency, get $
6:41:04 ~
1/12/2006 4:05:40 PM ~ Job - if large raise - is that ok/
6:41:23 ~
1/12/2006 4:06:00 PM ~ Foster - yes maybe 25% pay jump with certification.
6:41:45 ~
1/12/2006 4:06:21 PM ~ Kabeiseman - p.110 Gov. partially approved for
equipment. Online appls. program goes
24 hrs/day
6:42:57 ~
1/12/2006 4:07:33 PM ~ Nicholas - didn't see approval by CIO?
6:43:18 ~
1/12/2006 4:07:54 PM ~ Biggio - we are reviewing all requests, was an
oversight.
6:43:38 ~
1/12/2006 4:08:14 PM ~ Kabeiseman -$100,000 professional fees - denied, was
agency's last priority. p. 118 Employee Group Insurance approved $50,000 #2 gov. denied #33 denied #
$6,709,100 gov. request to help retiree's with insurance @ $11.50per month per
yr.of service, etc/
6:47:10 ~
1/12/2006 4:11:47 PM ~ Meuli - presently in program, include UW?
6:47:30 ~
1/12/2006 4:12:06 PM ~ Hayes, Insurance
6:47:48 ~
1/12/2006 4:12:25 PM ~ Nicholas - must have elected to stay in program?
6:48:09 ~
1/12/2006 4:12:45 PM ~ Hayes correct, only to participants enrolled and stayed
in program.
6:48:30 ~
1/12/2006 4:13:07 PM ~ Anderson - considerable interest in program. Please provide a sheet with bullets of
regulations
6:49:05 ~
1/12/2006 4:13:42 PM ~ Hayes - glad to
6:49:23 ~
1/12/2006 4:13:59 PM ~ Meuli -how many?
6:49:30 ~
1/12/2006 4:14:06 PM ~ Hayes - number subject to change on daily basis.
6:49:47 ~
1/12/2006 4:14:23 PM ~ Job - # of state employees opted for other programs?
6:50:08 ~
1/12/2006 4:14:44 PM ~ Hayes - only 25% stayed in program.
6:50:21 ~
1/12/2006 4:14:57 PM ~ Job - discrimination issue helping some but not
others. Some of 75% want to re-enter
program?
6:50:55 ~
1/12/2006 4:15:32 PM ~ Hayes - not an attorney, not sure.
6:51:07 ~
1/12/2006 4:15:43 PM ~ Philp - Buck Rept. stated we need to do other things.
6:51:55 ~
1/12/2006 4:16:31 PM ~ Hayes - Gov. recommendation
6:52:04 ~
1/12/2006 4:16:41 PM ~ Nicholas - figure cost to provide to teachers?
6:52:27 ~
1/12/2006 4:17:04 PM ~ Hayes - not in study.
6:52:42 ~
1/12/2006 4:17:18 PM ~ Meuli - individuals not healthy enough to qualify for
other insurance, so stayed in program.
Is this true?
6:53:14 ~
1/12/2006 4:17:51 PM ~ Hayes - can have selection issues. Healthy individuals may not opt out. Employer contribution could create adverse
selection program.
6:54:19 ~
1/12/2006 4:18:56 PM ~ Nicholas - those people elected to stay in program,
premium may be a little higher, some got better policy with prescription drug
policy, now may have less better coverage?
6:55:38 ~
1/12/2006 4:20:14 PM ~ Hayes-in past when retirees reached 65, much has changed
with Medicare D,
6:56:28 ~
1/12/2006 4:21:04 PM ~ Kabeiseman - dept. is receiving e-mails, just starting.
p. 124 Employee life insurance $284K
approved, p. 127 Gov. reduced by $6m approved $65,694,403 p. 131 increased,
Gov. approved p. 133 Flex Benefits Plan approved p.137
6:59:29 ~
1/12/2006 4:24:04 PM ~ Pause
6:59:29 ~
1/12/2006 4:51:07 PM ~ Resume
6:59:29 ~
1/12/2006 4:51:07 PM ~ Hines - take a short break
6:59:37 ~
1/12/2006 4:51:15 PM ~ Kabeiseman - Next section is the technology section These are all internally generated
funds. p. 137 - 179 - equipment
requests
7:01:41 ~
1/12/2006 4:53:19 PM ~ Hines - give us a few minutes to look through this
section and see if you have any marks.
7:02:12 ~
1/12/2006 4:53:50 PM ~ Meuli - p. 150 - server
7:02:53 ~
1/12/2006 4:54:32 PM ~ Atwood - that denial is on the previous page Everyone is looking through this section.
7:03:50 ~
1/12/2006 4:55:29 PM ~ Hines - if comittee finds something later we could come
back.
7:04:17 ~
1/12/2006 4:55:56 PM ~ Kabeiseman - CIO and we'll do IT first Mr. Atwood says we're waiting for some folks
so lets do the CIO
7:06:44 ~
1/12/2006 4:58:23 PM ~ Biggio - OCIO Refer to my booklet handout - We think
that we are 95% correct in our #'s See
pg. 4 in my booklet - Distribution of WY governor's IT budget
Recommendation - IT Equipment/Software
is about 11.33%, salaries & benefits are 18.33%, contract services 52.27%,
ITD services (400 series) is 17.76%, and Grants/DOT Depreciation is .31% p.g 5 - Gov. IT Employee rec and Gov. Evec.
Branch Employee Rec p. 6 -
Appropriation Series p. 8 - Comparisons
with 4 other states - higher in
contract series than others Lower
in other areas We are smaller state and
we can't hire highly specialized skills and so we end up contracting.
7:18:16 ~
1/12/2006 5:09:54 PM ~ Jorgensen - p. 8 quite a blend -
7:19:28 ~
1/12/2006 5:11:06 PM ~ Simpson - Those other states, what are they doing to
keep down their contract series?
7:19:53 ~
1/12/2006 5:11:31 PM ~ Biggio - We have looked at lots, but we can look closer.
7:20:28 ~
1/12/2006 5:12:07 PM ~ Nicholas - I would ask you to sit down w/ engineering
dept at UW and see if they can help you figure out why this is happening.
7:22:11 ~
1/12/2006 5:13:49 PM ~ Biggio - you have to look at another aspect and that is
that the legislature didn't want us to do.
7:23:36 ~
1/12/2006 5:15:14 PM ~ Simpson - You have to grow the businesses. There are some great opportunity to explore
to try to bring these things in house.
Maybe it is a select committee.
7:24:45 ~
1/12/2006 5:16:23 PM ~ Biggio - Big opportunity to grow a technology business
in our state.
7:25:23 ~
1/12/2006 5:17:01 PM ~ Nicholas - would you craft a footnote for us so that we
can keep track this. How aggressive do
we want to be, or do we just watch it.
We slam people if they come in and ask for positions.
7:27:21 ~
1/12/2006 5:18:59 PM ~ Biggio - We need to develop strategy and decide what we
are going to do in house and what we are going to contract out.
7:28:02 ~
1/12/2006 5:19:40 PM ~ Jorgensen - You have experience and we have to rely on
you to tell us what we need to do. You
have some prospective that you could bring to the discussion.
7:30:50 ~
1/12/2006 5:22:29 PM ~ Nicholas - would you put together the language so that
we can know what you think we should do.
7:32:03 ~
1/12/2006 5:23:41 PM ~ Jorgense - Our problems are not entirely unique to our
state.
7:32:56 ~
1/12/2006 5:24:35 PM ~ Biggio - We are working on some key skills and we need
to consolidate some of our jobs. Every
Agency should not be doing everything.
Project managers - we are trying to get some things going to manage the
monies you give us. p. 178- our
budget starts here 179 - exception budget starts here - #1 - IT expenditure data capture module
upgrades -, #2 Independent appraisal of IT security policies, #3 - OCIO
software and Equipment, #4 - Electronic signatures prototype, #5- Geographic
information systems coordination, #6
Website upgrades
7:41:44 ~
1/12/2006 5:33:22 PM ~ Jorgensen - #5 - I think that we do have some GIS
expertise in the state and we should consult them some.
7:42:38 ~
1/12/2006 5:34:17 PM ~ Hines - I share that we have talked to some recently.
7:43:04 ~
1/12/2006 5:34:43 PM ~ Nicholas - If you don't have the resources then maybe we
need to give you the person to get this rolling.
7:43:46 ~
1/12/2006 5:35:24 PM ~ Jorgensen- I think that it is important to have contract
services because they have one thing in sight.
It might be better to hire it out.
7:44:40 ~
1/12/2006 5:36:18 PM ~ Simpson - Can you tell us what the timeline is?
7:44:55 ~
1/12/2006 5:36:34 PM ~ Mike Kemetz- We
will be reporting directly to Mr. Biggio., but it will be a public report.
7:46:34 ~
1/12/2006 5:38:13 PM ~ Atwood - Public Safety Communication has grown
considerably with chg. from SALEX. Mr.
Narva is the chairman of this communication commission. We are developing new rules and are having
some sub committees. Have funded an
AWEC position funded through June.
7:51:36 ~
1/12/2006 5:43:14 PM ~ Philp - Have seen lots of requests for radio equipment
from agencies.
7:52:25 ~
1/12/2006 5:44:03 PM ~ Atwood - We have been tracking this info and I think
that we can extract out.
7:53:29 ~
1/12/2006 5:45:08 PM ~ Kabeiseman- p. 219
State library - need to get this in line with county libraries
7:55:27 ~
1/12/2006 5:47:06 PM ~ Job - Economic analysis -
7:55:58 ~
1/12/2006 5:47:36 PM ~ Kabeiseman - Mr. Hasler approached A & I and I
wanted it out of my budget, but he was more convincing. #1 - p225 - Budget allocation corection #2 -
Storage area network #3 - Wyoming Newspaper project -
7:58:08 ~
1/12/2006 5:49:46 PM ~ Meuli- Is that one time funding?
7:58:27 ~
1/12/2006 5:50:05 PM ~ Kabeiseman - one time funding
7:58:51 ~
1/12/2006 5:50:29 PM ~ Hines - capital construction, Mr Cathcart
7:59:09 ~
1/12/2006 5:50:47 PM ~ Cathcart - $2 mil is one-time request for ADA
projects. We had run out of money p. 234 -We need to have some $ to have for
money property acquisition so we can
write proposals if needed. This is rec.
by the state building commission and the gov.
It requires approval by the SBC and can't be expended w/out. Next request is for work that needs to be
done at the governor's residence. SBC
has been charged to take care of these things. Next request is the major maintenance request- 1.5% is
difficult to keep buildings in good repair.
SBC on their motion said they would want to fund at 2.5% this year and hope
that we can get caught up with some of backlog.
8:11:05 ~
1/12/2006 6:02:44 PM ~ Jorgensen - When parks and rec was here the other day
they said that they can't be inc. in this.
What is your opinion?
8:12:03 ~
1/12/2006 6:03:41 PM ~ Jorgensen - Could we get a definitive ruling on this
question?
8:12:42 ~
1/12/2006 6:04:20 PM ~ Hines - we'll see.
8:13:08 ~
1/12/2006 6:04:46 PM ~ Cathcart - Remodel at state training school for dept. of
education. This space would be good for
them. Their employee numbers is
down. Have scheduled w/ Dr. McBride to
look at this space. If not remodeled we
won't spend the money.
8:16:07 ~
1/12/2006 6:07:45 PM ~ Philp - We remodeled the HS and now why are we going to
remodel this property?
8:16:50 ~
1/12/2006 6:08:29 PM ~ Cathcart - I don't see why we keep putting money into a
building that we don't own.
8:18:27 ~
1/12/2006 6:10:05 PM ~ Philp - can you find how much has already been pd. out
8:18:58 ~
1/12/2006 6:10:36 PM ~ Cathcart - will find out what we have.
8:19:13 ~
1/12/2006 6:10:51 PM ~ Cathcart - Herschler Plaza Rehabilitation, heard many
times with some appropriation, not full.
Moved bucking horse off walkway, and a consultant was hired for final
study. 2001 got final survey. This year
we have had some real problems with water leaking into electrical panels. a $30m building, should plug in $6m to fix,
consultant, approved by SBC & Gov.
8:21:48 ~
1/12/2006 6:13:27 PM ~ Case - former Senator put out buckets in hallway.
8:22:21 ~
1/12/2006 6:13:59 PM ~ Cathcart sq. ft. cost shocking for server room, UW
server room compared, will replace 7 server rooms in Herschler and Gov. asked
for effective immediately.
8:23:50 ~
1/12/2006 6:15:29 PM ~ Cathcart - Recommendation - all capcon dollars be put into one pot, agencies wouldn't have
control of money in their budget.
Sometimes they start project w/o approval of our office. Need to be involved with all projects and
control change office. Approved by SBC &
Gov.
8:25:47 ~
1/12/2006 6:17:26 PM ~ Cathcart - some concern about 5% bid preference, volume
of work far exceeds in state contractors to do the work. I support the preference, but it is a
dis-incentive to adjacent state contractors, so they don't bid. Not getting bidder on projects, zero or one
often bid. We need good
contractors. Moritorium in a Section
300 to further bidding. On $80m prison,
we only have 1-2 WY contractors who can bond a project. Some contractors seeking pre-qualification
indicate they will not bid if 5% bid preference is in place. How do we deal with this one project? Can we waive that 5% for some projects? SBC
did not take action, but they want JAC to make a decision. Set back deadline to get some relief.
8:30:26 ~
1/12/2006 6:22:05 PM ~ Philp - also occur on smaller projects?
8:30:40 ~
1/12/2006 6:22:18 PM ~ Cathcart - Star Valley e.g. Utah contractors would like
to bid, but don't bid if they have a 5% disadvantage.
8:31:25 ~
1/12/2006 6:23:03 PM ~ Jones-do many states around WY also have a 5%
preference. Eliminated?
8:31:58 ~
1/12/2006 6:23:36 PM ~ Cathcart - will check it out.
8:32:08 ~
1/12/2006 6:23:47 PM ~ Jorgensen-highway work, shell game gotten around on
WYDOT projects.
8:32:53 ~
1/12/2006 6:24:31 PM ~ Cathcart - projects large enough to carry on for
multiple years. Those contractors can establish an in-state office and become
resident contractor. Not so common in
building construction.
8:33:52 ~
1/12/2006 6:25:31 PM ~ Cathcart - Federally funded projects/highway
construction cannot honor 5% bid preference.
8:34:56 ~
1/12/2006 6:26:34 PM ~ Cathcart - one other issue to be taken up in Executive
Session.
8:35:13 ~
1/12/2006 6:26:51 PM ~ Warren- pot of money for cap con?
8:35:24 ~
1/12/2006 6:27:02 PM ~ Cathcart -up to budget to set up.
8:35:38 ~
1/12/2006 6:27:17 PM ~ McVey - range of options, easiest would be to total up
appropriations by source of funding, divide up by agency approved amts.
8:36:38 ~
1/12/2006 6:28:17 PM ~ Sommers - appropriate to A&I, set into session law
the amts. Put it into a bill.
8:37:11 ~
1/12/2006 6:28:49 PM ~ Go into Exec. Session.
8:37:25 ~
1/12/2006 6:29:02 PM ~ Pause
8:37:25 ~
1/12/2006 6:29:10 PM ~ Stop Recording