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JAC 06
BUDGET HEARINGS 01/13/2006
2006 Budget
Hearings , January 13, 2006, #007 Military Dept., #040 Game & Fish, #005
Education, #205 School Foundation
0 ~ 1/13/2006 7:59:52 AM ~ Philp -
0 ~ 1/13/2006 7:59:52 AM ~ Start
Recording
5 ~ 1/13/2006 7:59:57 AM ~ Gen Wright -
Opening Remarks Have been very busy this past year with Iraq and Afghanistan
plus the hurricanes. Now we have the
extra situations of Base Realignment and Closure-BRAC. We are going to become more active. Camp Guernsey is becoming more and more
important for training purposes, etc.
There is an agreement between F E Warren and the guard and soon we'll
have 250 airmen living there and flying out of our airport. More 130's will be
at our airport.
10:07 ~ 1/13/2006 8:09:58 AM ~ Jorgensen -
How are we going to maintain these without the funding of the feds?? Who is going to foot the bill?
11:19 ~ 1/13/2006 8:11:11 AM ~ Wright - the
commanders will alternate. The airmen
will be flying the guard's planes because we don't have the pilots and they
don't have the airplanes.
12:03 ~ 1/13/2006 8:11:55 AM ~ Jorgensen -
How are we going to keep our identity as guard?
12:24 ~ 1/13/2006 8:12:16 AM ~ Wright - We
told them from the beginning that we have to be responsive to the governor.
12:47 ~ 1/13/2006 8:12:38 AM ~ Nicholas -
13:06 ~ 1/13/2006 8:12:58 AM ~ Wright - I
don' t have my arms around this as well as I would like yet either, but we are
working on this. We are having sp.
forces units come because they don't have the space at Ft. Carson. We don't
know exactly what the economic impact will be on those communities, but we are working
on that as we talk.
14:54 ~ 1/13/2006 8:14:46 AM ~ Nicholas -
will there be some funds to rebuild the facility with this extra use. We don't want $100 mil bill to clean up
--You should have two accounts that will be there when we get ready to redo. Sure that there will be huge clean up costs.
17:11 ~ 1/13/2006 8:17:03 AM ~ Shope - So
far the costs now will be at cost of feds.
We don't have those funds now.
17:56 ~ 1/13/2006 8:17:48 AM ~ Nicholas -
Can we not have them put it in the cash now.
The clean up is done later.
19:02 ~ 1/13/2006 8:18:54 AM ~ Wright - the
clean up is done as they go.
19:16 ~ 1/13/2006 8:19:08 AM ~ Nicholas - We
are basically taking our state facilities and using them for fed
activities. We need to keep track of
what it costs.
20:17 ~ 1/13/2006 8:20:09 AM ~ Anderson - Am
concerned about the day to day impact - law enforcement, utilities, --jobs
don't always take care of infrastructure.
We need to have fed. side understand that there are daily things that need
to take care of.
22:00 ~ 1/13/2006 8:21:52 AM ~ Wright - 3
employees today and grow until 22 employees by 2014. Right now we have the worst of situations - we sit around w/ 200
people and then in summer we have 1600 people.
If we can incrementally grow through the year it will be better for
people in the town to be better staffed.
23:59 ~ 1/13/2006 8:23:51 AM ~ Wright --p.
13, Ten new facility maintenance
positions - governor approved 4 of them.
They are responsible for making sure that it is not over grazed, well
maintained, etc.
27:06 ~ 1/13/2006 8:26:58 AM ~ Hines - Where
will those employees listed be working?
27:22 ~ 1/13/2006 8:27:14 AM ~ Wright - At
Camp Guernsey
28:06 ~ 1/13/2006 8:27:58 AM ~ Wright - We
are trying to be able to pay the one star generals so that they can step in for
me when I can't be there.
28:57 ~ 1/13/2006 8:28:49 AM ~ Wright - We
are trying to bring our facilities up to standard. We will have a team so that they can do the maintenance that a
reg. custodian wouldn't have skills to do.
They would be housed in Casper and Cheyenne.
30:51 ~ 1/13/2006 8:30:43 AM ~ Jorgensen - I
know that some of this maintenance is contract out, but are you thinking about
that?
31:21 ~ 1/13/2006 8:31:13 AM ~ Shope - We
have already been doing by contract .
32:15 ~ 1/13/2006 8:32:07 AM ~ Jorgensen -
have you not thought of hiring out these specialized jobs ??
33:27 ~ 1/13/2006 8:33:19 AM ~ Shope - we
have been doing that , but we think that we can do it cheaper if we have some
teams to do those that would be traveling .
34:18 ~ 1/13/2006 8:34:10 AM ~ Warren - What
are qualifications for engineering positions?
34:36 ~ 1/13/2006 8:34:28 AM ~ Shope - They
would be a degreed engineer or architect.
We have 17 armories throughout the state. We have not maintained these
facilities for years and now that they are getting more use we need to get them
repaired. The uniformed military used
to help w/ the maintenance and now they don't have time with the increased
drill schedule.
38:10 ~ 1/13/2006 8:38:01 AM ~ Warren - When
you have the 6 new facility unit positions why not have permanent people there?
39:33 ~ 1/13/2006 8:39:25 AM ~ Shope - We
would have to have significant more equipment.
40:04 ~ 1/13/2006 8:39:56 AM ~ Wright -
These people are more skilled than a reg. maintenance person. These are electrical, building, etc.
40:40 ~ 1/13/2006 8:40:32 AM ~ Shope - p. 17
- #6 and #7
41:59 ~ 1/13/2006 8:41:51 AM ~ Wright - p.
18 - #8 Computer hardware and software- CIO approved #9 - utility inc - responding
to the marketplace p. 20 - #10 - gov. denied because we can take care in
another place
44:05 ~ 1/13/2006 8:43:56 AM ~ Shope - p.
27, 28, #1, replace deficit #2 - inc. trust fund corpus
46:23 ~ 1/13/2006 8:46:15 AM ~ Wright -
refer to handout #81 - refer to chart on last page - notice the lower grades
are ones that have used it. Reserves
are on notice that they will be deployed 1 out of 5 years and guard deployed 1
out of 4 years. We don't have nearly as
many active duty army as we did in other wars.
52:45 ~ 1/13/2006 8:52:37 AM ~ Berger -
Where is the corpus and money stored?
Do they have to file their actual receipts?
53:42 ~ 1/13/2006 8:53:34 AM ~ Wright -
53:56 ~ 1/13/2006 8:53:47 AM ~ Petersen -
How does one know that the fund exist?
How do you see that people know about it?
54:49 ~ 1/13/2006 8:54:41 AM ~ Bill
Breckenridge - Newsletters, all people are briefed, have social activities
planned and they get it that way. We
tell our families to let us know in any way possibile.
55:58 ~ 1/13/2006 8:55:50 AM ~ Meuli - Does
Dec. '05 be typically the #'s then? Is
that the normal #?
56:50 ~ 1/13/2006 8:56:42 AM ~ Philp - What
is the income to the trust and what the balance is?
57:14 ~ 1/13/2006 8:57:06 AM ~ Wright - will
get that for you.
58:20 ~ 1/13/2006 8:58:12 AM ~ Nicholas -
What happens w/ respected funds that are not utilized? My assumption that are not used that funds
would return to fund. Provide report
for us. We want to have an investment
policy on this. If money not use you
should return some to your corpus. We
need to look at long term also.
1:00:27 ~
1/13/2006 9:00:19 AM ~ Wright - We'll do that
1:01:29 ~
1/13/2006 9:01:21 AM ~ Jorgensen - There was some kick start money- $600K????
1:02:04 ~
1/13/2006 9:01:56 AM ~ Wright - p. 30 & 31- Fed. has raised SGLI to $450K.
We have use the $100K on
this. I'm not sure that we
should have this now, but we would like to suggest that this be used to pay
premiums.
1:04:24 ~
1/13/2006 9:04:16 AM ~ Petersen - If we elect to go the premium route would
this be enough? $24 /mo and 900
soldiers = 1.8 mil
1:05:37 ~
1/13/2006 9:05:29 AM ~ Philp - Air National
Guard -
1:06:12 ~
1/13/2006 9:06:03 AM ~ Wright - Air Guard - their guard facilities are always
paid by the feds. It is totally
different than the Army.
1:07:08 ~
1/13/2006 9:07:00 AM ~ Simpson - What is the future of the Air Guard at the
Cheyenne airport?
1:07:48 ~
1/13/2006 9:07:40 AM ~ Wright - I don't think that there will be any change
except growth there.
1:08:29 ~
1/13/2006 9:08:21 AM ~ Wright - In Laramie when we grow that armory we will
build a new armory at their airport and build a runway at Guernsey.
1:09:19 ~
1/13/2006 9:09:11 AM ~ Job - How many students participate in Starbase? Do they keep these w/ state standards?
1:11:25 ~
1/13/2006 9:11:17 AM ~ Wright - they do adhere to state standards and we want
to expand into Casper so that we can do more satelite programs like to Indian
Reservations. We want to keep expanding
to other areas.
1:14:12 ~
1/13/2006 9:14:04 AM ~ Wright - p. 45 - #1 - heating, ventilation, & Air
condition contract statewide p. 46 - #2 - real property repair and maintenance
#3 - utility increases p. 50 - these are self funding
1:17:21 ~
1/13/2006 9:17:13 AM ~ Shope- p. 56 - We have to have more studies to make
things happen w/ fed. dollars. Most of
these are fed. funds.
1:19:37 ~
1/13/2006 9:19:29 AM ~ Wright - We are very careful to make sure that we are
environmentally friendly.
1:19:57 ~
1/13/2006 9:19:49 AM ~ Warren - Does this fit in with goal that we heard
earlier?
1:20:26 ~
1/13/2006 9:20:18 AM ~ Wright - Yes, they will fill in tank tracks and plant
new trees, etc.
1:21:00 ~
1/13/2006 9:20:52 AM ~ Anderson - Are you using same type of ammunition for
practice that they use in Iraq?
1:22:00 ~
1/13/2006 9:21:51 AM ~ Wright - I'll have to get back to you.
1:22:10 ~
1/13/2006 9:22:02 AM ~ Hines - I'm having trouble following here.
1:22:35 ~
1/13/2006 9:22:27 AM ~ Wright - That is for the challenge program.
1:23:19 ~
1/13/2006 9:23:11 AM ~ Shope - That was from the ed. foundation last yr and we
went to gen funds this year not know how you folks want to do this.
1:24:02 ~
1/13/2006 9:23:54 AM ~ Wright - p. 59
1:24:14 ~
1/13/2006 9:24:06 AM ~ Shope - p. 59 - #5 distance learning operating inc.
1:24:47 ~
1/13/2006 9:24:39 AM ~ Wright - The challenge program - housed at Camp Guernsey
- p. 64 - will have 200 kids a year.
1:25:31 ~
1/13/2006 9:25:23 AM ~ Jorgensen - How are kids identified and referred?
1:25:47 ~
1/13/2006 9:25:39 AM ~ Wright - We have staff going around state and counselors
tell also. We try to contact all
dropouts.
1:26:30 ~
1/13/2006 9:26:22 AM ~ Jorgensen - How many go into guard?
1:26:56 ~
1/13/2006 9:26:48 AM ~ Job - What about salaries in this program. They seem to be quite high. No beginning
teacher in WY makes this much.
1:28:49 ~
1/13/2006 9:28:41 AM ~ Wright - That is a bien figure - The kids are there 24
hrs. and very intense. After they
graduate from this program they are tracked by a mentor for over a year.
1:30:01 ~
1/13/2006 9:29:53 AM ~ Warren - follow up list for staff, does this mean a
social work degree? Summary of what
this prog. has done. Basic for what
this funding is going to do.
1:31:07 ~
1/13/2006 9:30:59 AM ~ Wright - this program is in 23 states, curriculum is
given by nat. government. We are going
to have only 20 to begin with. They
will be supervised 24 hrs a day.
1:32:59 ~
1/13/2006 9:32:51 AM ~ Anderson - a viewing an e-mail for an invitation to see
this program - not a good day for this committee- but would like to go another
day.
1:33:43 ~
1/13/2006 9:33:35 AM ~ Wright - p. 75 #1 - We want to have full-time employees
to have a better outreach to veterans.
Our contract people were cut and we will have to cut back on services.
1:36:30 ~
1/13/2006 9:36:22 AM ~ Don Ewing - Director of Veterans Commission - Need to
have these people. Both are disabled veterans, one can speak Spanish. Many of veterans are unaware of the programs
available to them. We have 22K Vietnam
veterans across the state. Doesn't cost
state anything for $61 mil a yr. in this state. All this money goes into the state economy. Need to support our veterans.
1:40:58 ~
1/13/2006 9:40:50 AM ~ Jorgensen - As I read chart, req. for 3 and 1 was granted
-
1:41:25 ~
1/13/2006 9:41:17 AM ~ Director - One was half and want full-time
1:41:51 ~
1/13/2006 9:41:43 AM ~ Meuli - Should these be done by Workforce Services or
the Veterans Administration?
1:42:21 ~
1/13/2006 9:42:13 AM ~ Ewing - We do have contract w/ workforce services.
1:44:11 ~
1/13/2006 9:44:03 AM ~ Hines - The outreach coord. was time limited.
1:44:28 ~
1/13/2006 9:44:19 AM ~ Simpson - Would you get us info that justifies this.
1:44:46 ~
1/13/2006 9:44:38 AM ~ Ewing - They were time limited and we are asking that
they be replaced.
1:45:14 ~
1/13/2006 9:45:06 AM ~ Wright - p. 76 - #2
p. 77 #3 training - gov denied - will get done other ways p. 87 # 1 -
Cemetery # 2 - p. 93 - #1 - military
deployment - responding to state & national emergencies we need to be able
to timely pay these active duty people
1:50:08 ~
1/13/2006 9:50:00 AM ~ Jorgensen - Tell us where it goes and how it fits, could
you provide us with history of 10 yrs. where they've been.
1:51:03 ~
1/13/2006 9:50:55 AM ~ Meuli - We need a contingency fund for this
somewhere. Since we have coop agreement
do we get money back from them??? One
that calls in the people has to pay them, right???
1:52:38 ~
1/13/2006 9:52:29 AM ~ Wright - You are right.
We are not in same situation as the Adjutant Gen. in La and he just
closed books on hurricane 3 years ago.
WE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO DO THAT!!!!!
Now on the Civil Air Patrol - now are playing a more vital role in
Homeland Security - have new cameras so that can fly over any situation and see
instantly what is going on there. p.
107 # 7 - Very high tech equipment -
gov denied - Civil Support Team important to Weapons of Mass Destruction and
we'll need this as they become more active .
Most fundamental request is to allow us to grow Camp Guernsey, if we
cannot acquire contiguous lands and if it falls into subdivisions, around our
range is critical. Request to triple
amt. of soldiers using and protect us, Guernsey is the training site for robotics,
security, etc. Substantial ff will come
in if we can maintain status. Average
acreage is 80,000 acres, Guernsey is only 30,000. Don't hunker down and stay a sleepy facility.
2:05:21 ~
1/13/2006 10:05:13 AM ~ Nicholas are there ff available to communities to
offset loss of property tax.
2:05:54 ~
1/13/2006 10:05:46 AM ~ Wright - no. If
you are a federal installation, you qualify.
If a state installation, you are not eligible.
2:06:33 ~
1/13/2006 10:06:25 AM ~ Nicholas - should you be developing such a fund?
2:06:56 ~
1/13/2006 10:06:48 AM ~ Shope - funds diverted - grazing fees higher than
property tax loss.
2:07:46 ~
1/13/2006 10:07:37 AM ~ Philp - acres in ranch you are seeking?
2:08:01 ~
1/13/2006 10:07:53 AM ~ Wright - talking with 4 acres, Grey rocks is
significant acreage
2:08:32 ~
1/13/2006 10:08:24 AM ~ Simpson - how do military ops and graze at same time.
2:08:54 ~
1/13/2006 10:08:46 AM ~ Wright - ranchers who graze move livestock when we
notify of an activity coming for 2 weeks.
2:09:44 ~
1/13/2006 10:09:36 AM ~ Anderson - impact area
2:10:07 ~
1/13/2006 10:09:59 AM ~ Wright - small not active arms used in critical areas.
2:10:23 ~
1/13/2006 10:10:14 AM ~ Wright -
#6 p. 119 Armory rehabilitation
statewide - 4 armories with appropriation Shope- p. 19 show 4 armories
2:12:50 ~
1/13/2006 10:12:42 AM ~ Petersen - security of 17 armories status?
2:13:14 ~
1/13/2006 10:13:06 AM ~ Wright - after 911 we got fed. mandates on weapons
found, cubes erected around armories, alarm system, high priority to work with
local police.
2:14:11 ~
1/13/2006 10:14:03 AM ~ Nicholas - 4?
2:14:19 ~
1/13/2006 10:14:11 AM ~ Shope - extensive armory survey, these 4 are more in
need of repair - Afton, Gillete, Wheatland and Worland
2:15:03 ~
1/13/2006 10:14:54 AM ~ Wright - Evansville double seating in Veteran's
chapel. Military funerals about 3 per
week-158 this last year.. 70% of
funerals have inadequate seating for family and friends.
2:16:03 ~
1/13/2006 10:15:55 AM ~ Meuli - state military? No ff to do
2:16:15 ~
1/13/2006 10:16:07 AM ~ Shope - 100% state support. FF were used to construct, feds getting out of chapel business,
prefer tents for graveside. Doesn't
work in WY, wind and temps we always hold services in chapel. We do not plan to seek ff for chapel.
2:17:50 ~
1/13/2006 10:17:42 AM ~ Wright - master plan now in place. They will not pay for chapel.
2:18:26 ~
1/13/2006 10:18:18 AM ~ Meuli - a bill coming thru for this.
2:19:27 ~
1/13/2006 10:19:19 AM ~ Wright - no house support
2:19:42 ~
1/13/2006 10:19:34 AM ~ Case - adding room, total sq. ft. of facility?
2:20:01 ~
1/13/2006 10:19:53 AM ~ Shope -expanding seating and restroom facilities.
2:20:35 ~
1/13/2006 10:20:27 AM ~ Philp- replace facility?
2:21:11 ~
1/13/2006 10:21:03 AM ~ Wright - replace 2 facilities, one old school revert to
state.
2:21:32 ~
1/13/2006 10:21:24 AM ~ Warren - ff, will it be built by local
contractors. How are you to find
contractors.
2:22:01 ~
1/13/2006 10:21:52 AM ~ Shope, not there yet, now 10% design.
2:22:23 ~
1/13/2006 10:22:15 AM ~ Wright - hope to turn dirt in 2007, will use local if
possible.
2:22:48 ~
1/13/2006 10:22:40 AM ~ Hines - state or federal project?
2:23:05 ~
1/13/2006 10:22:57 AM ~ Wright - Base realighnment & closure - first time
WY has been touched by BRAC. We are at
leading edge of process, ff should all be from ff, but army projects always has
75/25% requirement. State has always
had to appropriate full amt. and then become reimbursed. Have requested fed. definitive answer to not
jeopardize project. C17 landing strip
in Guernsey was to have been build by Federal units, National Guard Unit
stopped project because they did not have $800,000 .
2:26:35 ~
1/13/2006 10:26:27 AM ~ Shope - Same officers, Col. Mayes,
2:26:54 ~
1/13/2006 10:26:45 AM ~ Hines - agree?
2:27:02 ~
1/13/2006 10:26:54 AM ~ Shope - presently planned as a state project, Col Mayes
would be office
2:27:28 ~
1/13/2006 10:27:20 AM ~ Hines - confused that full $140m put up upfront, then
ff, Steve?
2:28:15 ~
1/13/2006 10:28:06 AM ~ Sommers, if we have to put full amount, then it affects
our budget. When will it be paid
back. Net hit of $140m if not to be pd.
back during this biennium
2:29:01 ~
1/13/2006 10:28:53 AM ~ Hines - asked for documentation
2:29:20 ~
1/13/2006 10:29:12 AM ~ Anderson - ad hoc on school and I see this issue the
same way.
2:29:40 ~
1/13/2006 10:29:32 AM ~ Job - who owns building if on base?
2:29:53 ~
1/13/2006 10:29:45 AM ~ Shope State Bldg for period of time we will use, always
be reversion to federal if not use building.
2:30:22 ~
1/13/2006 10:30:14 AM ~ Wright - 99 yr. lease unless we walk away.
2:30:40 ~
1/13/2006 10:30:32 AM ~ Simpson - state govt. limiting. We would not build building if fed. money
will not be returned.
2:31:18 ~
1/13/2006 10:31:10 AM ~ Philp - contractural agreement for occupancy?
2:31:33 ~
1/13/2006 10:31:25 AM ~ Shope - yes, all have agreements, this agreement has
yet to be written
2:32:34 ~
1/13/2006 10:32:26 AM ~ Philp - we need to know before this budget
2:32:56 ~
1/13/2006 10:32:48 AM ~ Wright - $140m is spending authority never intended to
be spent.
2:33:17 ~
1/13/2006 10:33:09 AM ~ Nicholas - p. 129 only authorizing authority to spend,
not full appropriations.
2:33:59 ~
1/13/2006 10:33:51 AM ~ Shope - master cooperative agreement state pays bills,
then is reimbursed.
2:34:26 ~
1/13/2006 10:34:18 AM ~ Nicholas - cash flow?
2:34:40 ~
1/13/2006 10:34:32 AM ~ Shope - yes, monthly pmts.
2:34:56 ~
1/13/2006 10:34:48 AM ~ Nicholas - 20-30 day turnaround?
2:35:44 ~
1/13/2006 10:35:36 AM ~ Shope - a little longer
2:35:52 ~
1/13/2006 10:35:43 AM ~ Nicholas - cash flow ready to pay contractors
2:36:06 ~
1/13/2006 10:35:58 AM ~ Shope - don't know process in other states. This is a typical route taken.
2:36:48 ~
1/13/2006 10:36:40 AM ~ Nicholas - need to talk to State Treasurer, she needs
to have cash in bank.
2:37:08 ~
1/13/2006 10:37:00 AM ~ Simpson - what other revenues on p. 52, billiting,
income from troops coming in. Other
place in budget?
2:38:05 ~
1/13/2006 10:37:57 AM ~ Shope - 3 small amounts in billeting, veterans cemetery
and for donations thru veterans.
2:38:39 ~
1/13/2006 10:38:31 AM ~ Simpson, $205m budget, don't make more than 1/2m
dollars?
2:39:06 ~
1/13/2006 10:38:58 AM ~ Shope - state does not make money. It goes directly back into federal accounts?
2:39:29 ~
1/13/2006 10:39:21 AM ~ Simpson - state facilities?
2:39:40 ~
1/13/2006 10:39:32 AM ~ Shope federal accounts paid back into
2:40:10 ~
1/13/2006 10:40:02 AM ~ Hines - shouldn't it go back into standard budget on p.
5
2:40:36 ~
1/13/2006 10:40:28 AM ~ Simpson - talking about something else?
2:40:54 ~
1/13/2006 10:40:45 AM ~ Nicholas - profile sheet p. 5, if you want this level
of fed. funds, a general fund appropriation is what is needed to get you
there. $15m to be spent on military
Decide to spend $20m to get
2:42:23 ~
1/13/2006 10:42:15 AM ~ Philp - thank you for your testimony, take a 15 min.
break at 10:45.
2:42:33 ~
1/13/2006 10:42:23 AM ~ Pause
2:42:33 ~
1/13/2006 11:03:14 AM ~ Resume
2:42:33 ~
1/13/2006 11:03:14 AM ~ Resue - Game & Fish Dept. #040 Director Terry
Cleveland
2:42:45 ~
1/13/2006 11:03:26 AM ~ Terry Cleveland, Director of 040 Game & Fish,
introduced staff he brought. Briefly
highlight, Vet. Services, trap built in Pinedale area, fence to prevent
comingling of cattle & elk to curtail brucellosis. Dept. meeting requirements has initiated
Brucellosis Action Plan throughout state.
Sit down with all entities, plan is in final stage of review, remaining
5 plans to be completed by June, 2007.
Interim funding was helpful to complete. Dept. has successfully or is
well on way to successfuly deal with brucellosis. Compex situation, doing all that can be done. CWD - elk, moose,
deer, NE Colo & NW spread in WY.
Hot Springs County established CWD.
Matter of when will CWD hit feeding grounds in NW corner of state. No research that it is a danger to
people. Sage Grouse funding - 8 groups
established around state, citizen groups to establish plans. 2006 fall deadlien for plans. Will require funding for implementation. Over 40 polls over $900K requests, priority
list sent to Agency. All on priority
list will be finished. Mapping needed.
WY and in West wnat to preclude listing of Sage Grouse
2:52:41 ~
1/13/2006 11:13:22 AM ~ Philp - go to exception request
2:52:52 ~
1/13/2006 11:13:33 AM ~ Cleveland - vet program, ff for CWD and
Brucellosis. Demands at fed. level have
created shortfalls, expect our ff to be cut back. Funding essential to maintain existing levels. Continue to apply for ff, but expect them to
be cut. Item #2
2:55:13 ~
1/13/2006 11:15:55 AM ~ Meuli - request 2 pieces of equipment - what kind, and
what is tes and accuracy.
2:55:44 ~
1/13/2006 11:16:25 AM ~ Emerich -tests are accurate on CWD, 2 pieces are
Rivalizers. Used to separate fluids.
2:56:46 ~
1/13/2006 11:17:28 AM ~ Meuli - specific use, and reliability good. Blood?
2:57:06 ~
1/13/2006 11:17:47 AM ~ Emerich - gland in neck pulled from animal - over 90%
accurate
2:57:35 ~
1/13/2006 11:18:16 AM ~ Anderson - regionalize in west to expand effectiveness,
Idaho, collaborate with other states?
2:58:07 ~
1/13/2006 11:18:48 AM ~ Cleveland - yes both at Western level and at national
level. Gov. Sullivan at last outbreak
of Brucellosis created group of 3 state in Greater Yellowstone area. #3 Equipment Replacement #4 Increased
& Unanticipated costs @ Sybeille
research center. Paying housing
allowance for employee in Teton Co.
3:01:25 ~
1/13/2006 11:22:06 AM ~ Philp what would this employee be doing?
3:01:35 ~
1/13/2006 11:22:17 AM ~ Emerich - requested 3 AWEC made permanent from last
year, implement tests on feed grounds, vaccination of elk minimize length of
days spent on feed grounds.
3:03:36 ~
1/13/2006 11:24:18 AM ~ Cleveland - also do
3:04:03 ~
1/13/2006 11:24:44 AM ~ Nicholas - struggling with housing allowance in
Teton, why did Gov approve in this
budget, all denied in other budgets
3:05:02 ~
1/13/2006 11:25:44 AM ~ Cleveland no choice as it is a permanent position.
3:05:22 ~
1/13/2006 11:26:03 AM ~ Ms. Frank when budget prepared, not known if position
would be in Jackson or Pinedale.
3:06:04 ~
1/13/2006 11:26:45 AM ~ Sommers - Any permanent employee where housing
allowance is allowed is eligible.
3:06:32 ~
1/13/2006 11:27:13 AM ~ Cleveland-Sage grouse Planning & Protection need
substantial increase, agree with Gov. reduction, but do need
3:08:21 ~
1/13/2006 11:29:02 AM ~ Philp - what kind of projects?
3:08:35 ~
1/13/2006 11:29:16 AM ~ Emerich - on the ground projects, project in Johnson
Co, enhance existing cover for nesting, manipulation of habitat, seeding
involves large amt. of people, funds $425K has made these projects go.
Inventory of habitat education projects
3:11:01 ~
1/13/2006 11:31:43 AM ~ Berger - industry part?
3:11:16 ~
1/13/2006 11:31:57 AM ~ Emerich - industry very important
3:11:35 ~
1/13/2006 11:32:17 AM ~ Meuli - West Nile Virus die off among Sage Grouse?
3:11:54 ~
1/13/2006 11:32:36 AM ~ Emerich - significant loss in 1st year, significant
research, not seeing rest of state mortality, don't know why some years show
more mortality, but 1st year was a good year for mosquitoes. Mortality seems to drop off after 1st
year. Some birds showed antibodies
indicating that they were exposed.
3:13:53 ~
1/13/2006 11:34:34 AM ~ Petersen - Uinta Co.
Are we out of the woods and if continue to drop off, will entire state
be listed as endangered?
3:14:40 ~
1/13/2006 11:35:21 AM ~ Cleveland - not out of woods on Sage Grouse, sitting
back and waiting to see effects of efforts.
May see listing of Sage Grouse.
Will be by range of species, not entire state.
3:16:06 ~
1/13/2006 11:36:47 AM ~ Cleveland - decrease in meeting costs, anticipate
decrease in number of meetings required.
3:16:38 ~
1/13/2006 11:37:19 AM ~ Philp - we appreciate that.
3:16:47 ~
1/13/2006 11:37:28 AM ~ Cleveland - concludes exception requests, go on to Cap.
Con projects which have been considered by
- Pinedale office decades old.
Build or secure another office, unsuccessful in finding a building. BLM is vacating old and moving into a new building. We have been in discussion with owner of
building. It would meet our needs,
request ability to acquire bldg. which would be cheaper than renting.
3:19:22 ~
1/13/2006 11:40:03 AM ~ Philp - Handout 94 has pictures
3:19:35 ~
1/13/2006 11:40:17 AM ~ Nicholas
3:20:19 ~
1/13/2006 11:41:01 AM ~ Nicholas - what plan for existing facility?
3:20:32 ~
1/13/2006 11:41:13 AM ~ Cleveland, no room for horse corrals at new site, would
need to keep portion.
3:20:54 ~
1/13/2006 11:41:35 AM ~ Cleveland Speas Rearing Station Comfort Station used by
more than hunters & anglers. Handicapped fishing facilities - wheelchair
platforms, one facility to be built at 3 locations.
3:25:01 ~
1/13/2006 11:45:43 AM ~ Nicholas - Cheyenne office, State Facilities
recommended denial, it has been on your list for a long time.
3:25:32 ~
1/13/2006 11:46:13 AM ~ Cleveland -Still exploring, but have changed priorities
as needed. Pinedale higher priority,
Casper staffing - move positions from Cheyenne to Casper while continuing to push
for Cheyenne office. Building
Commission addressing all state needs.
3:27:09 ~
1/13/2006 11:47:50 AM ~ Simpson - requested info on future funding of
agency, issue deserves more than 10
minutes time, what ideas do you have on this?
3:28:00 ~
1/13/2006 11:48:41 AM ~ Cleveland - Dept. historically has been funded by
license fees, served us well in past. Looking forward will not be adequate.
Recognized need for management system on all species in state. Other 750 species are not being addressed,
only ones which are hunted or fished.
270 species on list which could be listed. Hunters and anglers should not be responsible to support all
wildlife species in state. Growing
recognition of need, difference of opinion on how to accomplish. Need further dialogue with JAC on how to
move forward.
3:30:47 ~
1/13/2006 11:51:28 AM ~ Wichers -any item on list you are seeking more info?
3:31:07 ~
1/13/2006 11:51:48 AM ~ Simpson - p. 2 cover letter lists programs for
alternative funding, what are they?
3:31:35 ~
1/13/2006 11:52:16 AM ~ Wichers - not yet specifically identified. Trust account suggested in past with
interest available to G&F programs.
Currently funded with G&F license fees. Like to expand dept. if $ available.
3:32:59 ~
1/13/2006 11:53:40 AM ~ Cleveland - reluctant to identify other funding, beyond
purview, additonal taxation? Legislative prerogative.
3:33:53 ~
1/13/2006 11:54:35 AM ~ Philp - further discussion in future.
3:34:07 ~
1/13/2006 11:54:49 AM ~ Cleveland - appreciate opportunity to discuss today.
3:34:25 ~
1/13/2006 11:55:06 AM ~ Philp thank you. Break until 1:00
3:34:37 ~
1/13/2006 11:55:17 AM ~ Pause
3:34:37 ~
1/13/2006 1:04:29 PM ~ Resume
3:34:42 ~
1/13/2006 1:04:35 PM ~ Philp - Welcome to Dr. McBride
3:35:34 ~
1/13/2006 1:05:27 PM ~ McBride - Have had meetings with other committees. We have made a committment to answer all of
your questions fully. In budget
narratives in future will have more details.
Am relying on an incredible group of people. Introduced his cadre of people in office. Reorganizing fast was needed - dept was in
financial trouble. I eliminated 18
positions. Refer to organ. chart of a year ago and how it is today. I want to make a clear statement that you
can call them directly so I have inc. all their #'s. We need to monitor our budgets carefully. The cuts that I made showed an immediate
impact. We are aware of the enormous
sums of money that flow into our department, but we don't get to keep much.
3:44:39 ~
1/13/2006 1:14:32 PM ~ Hansen - an overview
Refer to pg. 3 in handout - the columns show you from where everything
comes. pg. 4 - recap - show what the
600 series does
3:47:12 ~
1/13/2006 1:17:04 PM ~ Hines - does the other funds inc. fed. funds?
3:47:31 ~
1/13/2006 1:17:24 PM ~ Hansen - explains the sheets in the handout booklet All
these consider to be a pass through. 3%
of budget request. p. 7 - Exception
request by priority
3:52:57 ~
1/13/2006 1:22:49 PM ~ Philp- Please go through you budget by going through the
exception requests.
3:53:25 ~
1/13/2006 1:23:17 PM ~ Job - Does that involve funds for the inovative grant
request?
3:54:06 ~
1/13/2006 1:23:59 PM ~ McBride -
3:55:10 ~
1/13/2006 1:25:03 PM ~ Hansen - p. 33 - to convert 4 AWEC positions to
full-time p.45 - #1 cont. funding for
nat. board cert. for teachers p. 46 #2
- cont. funding for teacher adv. prog. and cont./new funding for other
professional develp. program providing substantially similar components of the
tap program p.48 #3 - Continued funding for teacher policy institute p. 49 - #4
- Continued funding for teacher of the year program This gets the foot in the
door toward a merit pay program.
4:02:02 ~
1/13/2006 1:31:55 PM ~ Hill- Both instructors have said that they do see their
model as replacing the original.
4:03:05 ~
1/13/2006 1:32:58 PM ~ Nicholas - ask dept to provide identification of items
that are contained in the 005 budget that will be replaced in new model. At some point it is the ed. committee to
decided. You have $ to rerun the TAP
program.
4:07:05 ~
1/13/2006 1:36:58 PM ~ McBride - If you look on pg. 7 I think that we can do
that now. item 7 is the only duplicate
item I think.
4:08:14 ~
1/13/2006 1:38:07 PM ~ Job - We want to be careful because we don't want to go
away.
4:09:32 ~
1/13/2006 1:39:24 PM ~ Anderson - Ques I have on teacher quality - don't leave
out a part of it. Difference of opinion
as to what .
4:11:03 ~
1/13/2006 1:40:55 PM ~ Bohling -
4:12:51 ~
1/13/2006 1:42:44 PM ~ Warren - TAP - couple of schools need to inc. their
testing, have they raised their scores
4:14:01 ~
1/13/2006 1:43:53 PM ~ Bohling - 67% showed an increase in scores. When you get
75% of all teachers have bought into these programs.
4:15:24 ~
1/13/2006 1:45:16 PM ~ Nicholas - new funding model has 200 mil plus on
bien. One heavy area is teacher
development, TAP program, etc. We will
be marking up budget and there will be a duplication of cost. Do we eliminate it now or do we bring it
back on the floor? I think that we
eliminate it here now and see it in the block grant.
4:18:25 ~
1/13/2006 1:48:18 PM ~ Meuli - talked about the TAP program - Do we have any
funding in here for training of administrators?
4:19:18 ~
1/13/2006 1:49:10 PM ~ Bohling - This is not for schools statewide, but for
pilot schools. The administrator of
their schools would have to participate with them.
4:20:16 ~
1/13/2006 1:50:08 PM ~ Hansen - p. 61,62 p. 62 - #2 - Child nutrition request -
4:25:29 ~
1/13/2006 1:55:21 PM ~ McBride - Health & safety units - boneyard as we
visited schools around the state - Want computers disposed of incorrectly.
4:27:22 ~
1/13/2006 1:57:15 PM ~ Nicholas - give us your raw recommendation.
4:27:39 ~
1/13/2006 1:57:32 PM ~ Hansen -
4:28:05 ~
1/13/2006 1:57:57 PM ~ Simpson - on COPS prog. how does that play out w/ the
DFS program?
4:28:37 ~
1/13/2006 1:58:30 PM ~ Hansen - Funding for the program is found in agency
205. Community prog. specialist -
4:30:14 ~
1/13/2006 2:00:06 PM ~ Maas - state funds - they have a food and nutrition
background.
4:30:46 ~
1/13/2006 2:00:39 PM ~ Philp - going on - sp ed regionalization no exception
req.
4:32:09 ~
1/13/2006 2:02:02 PM ~ McBride - Hathaway Scholarship - current req. funds for
2 positions - draft leg. inc. funding req.
- will be trying to secure funds for public info - This funding piece
has not been identified. This is our
first priority and when bill becomes law we will only have 6 wks.
4:34:31 ~
1/13/2006 2:04:23 PM ~ Nicholas - Why do we have to have 2 more people when you
have 150 people. Why would you need to
have 2 people to administer?
4:35:27 ~
1/13/2006 2:05:20 PM ~ McBride - We will need people to develop rules, etc.
4:35:52 ~
1/13/2006 2:05:45 PM ~ Bohling - When you look at draft bill there will be a
tremendous amount of work that will have to be done. We always take you bills apart to what needs to be done.
4:38:12 ~
1/13/2006 2:08:04 PM ~ Hines - From what I read this isn't being req.
4:40:56 ~
1/13/2006 2:10:49 PM ~ Petersen - If we don't have these people what will
happen?
4:41:18 ~ 1/13/2006
2:11:11 PM ~ Mary Kay Hill - Without an appropriation and these people we can't
operate this scholarship.
4:42:17 ~
1/13/2006 2:12:09 PM ~ Nicholas - You have already B 11ed so you have already
started.
4:42:58 ~
1/13/2006 2:12:51 PM ~ Bohling - We will have rules and regs ready to go as
soon as you give us the appropriation and we'll be ready to work with the 2006
graduates.
4:44:25 ~
1/13/2006 2:14:17 PM ~ Philp - We might make that school foundation program
money as that is the way we have done the rest of it.
4:47:17 ~
1/13/2006 2:17:10 PM ~ Meuli - How many deaf students do we serve?
4:47:35 ~
1/13/2006 2:17:27 PM ~ Shroeder - I'll get that for you.
4:47:50 ~
1/13/2006 2:17:42 PM ~ Philp -
4:48:28 ~
1/13/2006 2:18:20 PM ~ Nicholas - Has dept been providing the audit from St
Stephens Indian school?
4:49:13 ~
1/13/2006 2:19:06 PM ~ Hansen - That will be provided to ed. committee.
4:50:49 ~
1/13/2006 2:20:42 PM ~ McBride - p. 100 - Healthy living, healthy learning.
4:51:44 ~
1/13/2006 2:21:37 PM ~ Job - this isn't one of those things that we will fund
for awhile and then drop???
4:52:21 ~
1/13/2006 2:22:13 PM ~ McBride - there is a great deal of info in you handout
booklet.
4:52:44 ~
1/13/2006 2:22:37 PM ~ Meuli - Have these programs been in place for long
enough period or will we have 10 yrs. to get a report??
4:54:08 ~
1/13/2006 2:24:01 PM ~ McBride - we know that it works elsewhere and we know
that it will be good.
4:54:56 ~
1/13/2006 2:24:49 PM ~ Meuli - I want you to give me some assurance that we
will have some enthusiastic leaders.
4:55:26 ~
1/13/2006 2:25:19 PM ~ McBride- can assure you that the pilot schools had good
leaders.
4:57:08 ~
1/13/2006 2:27:01 PM ~ Jorgensen - p. 4 Riverton etc. Realize it is a new
program- are we getting improvement
4:58:21 ~
1/13/2006 2:28:13 PM ~ Simpson- are we intending to have this in every
district?
4:58:42 ~
1/13/2006 2:28:35 PM ~ Maas - It is a voluntary participation. We hope that it will be in all districts
eventually.
4:59:51 ~
1/13/2006 2:29:44 PM ~ Simpson - Don't we already have some of these
activities?
5:01:09 ~
1/13/2006 2:31:01 PM ~ Maas - In McComb the superintend went into the area and
got them started. You really have to have the enthusiam.
5:03:26 ~
1/13/2006 2:33:19 PM ~ Maas - this money is really to hire a coord.
5:04:17 ~
1/13/2006 2:34:10 PM ~ Anderson - I'll share my views later since I went to
Mississippi.
5:04:41 ~
1/13/2006 2:34:34 PM ~ Bohling - In prev. bien budget we did a balanced
leadership - have had a sign. leadership training for our principles.
5:08:32 ~
1/13/2006 2:38:25 PM ~ Meuli - Fed Voc Funding - Are we going to need an
approp?
5:09:00 ~
1/13/2006 2:38:52 PM ~ Wiggert - Wait and see what level we get.
5:09:48 ~
1/13/2006 2:39:41 PM ~ Job
5:10:15 ~
1/13/2006 2:40:07 PM ~ Steele - some of funding has been cut
5:10:32 ~
1/13/2006 2:40:24 PM ~ Job - Title 1 has strong funding -
5:11:41 ~
1/13/2006 2:41:33 PM ~ Steele - We don't have an exact report of that.
5:12:48 ~
1/13/2006 2:42:41 PM ~ Meuli - There are about 15 schools that are in that
Title 1. Can you give me some of these?
5:14:15 ~
1/13/2006 2:44:08 PM ~ Steele- Cathedral School , Boys & Girls Schools, St.
Josephs, etc.
5:15:19 ~
1/13/2006 2:45:12 PM ~ Nicholas - Even Start prog.
5:15:42 ~
1/13/2006 2:45:34 PM ~ Mary Kay Hill -
5:16:12 ~
1/13/2006 2:46:05 PM ~ Meuli - Title 5 program - innovative programs - is it
going away or is the funding going away?
5:16:57 ~
1/13/2006 2:46:50 PM ~ Steele - It has a lot of flexibility
5:18:09 ~ 1/13/2006
2:48:02 PM ~ Meuli - on Drug Free schools does this inc. the amt. we put in
last year for meth?? Are state funds in
budget here?
5:18:50 ~
1/13/2006 2:48:43 PM ~ Hines -
5:19:50 ~
1/13/2006 2:49:43 PM ~ Maas - We do get the flow through for our districts.
5:20:20 ~
1/13/2006 2:50:12 PM ~ Hines - this calls for almost 18 mil , could be get a
break down?? p. 133
5:20:52 ~
1/13/2006 2:50:45 PM ~ Bohling - Majority of that is flow through the
districts.
5:22:39 ~
1/13/2006 2:52:32 PM ~ Mary Kay Hill - We will go back and correct this.
5:22:54 ~
1/13/2006 2:52:46 PM ~ Simpson - maybe you could also tell how this impacts the
fed funds.
5:24:20 ~
1/13/2006 2:54:11 PM ~ Pause
5:24:20 ~
1/13/2006 3:10:33 PM ~ Resume
5:24:28 ~
1/13/2006 3:10:41 PM ~ Philp p. 146
Staffing Request Nutrition Programs
5:25:28 ~
1/13/2006 3:11:41 PM ~ Hansen 80% ff
5:25:44 ~
1/13/2006 3:11:57 PM ~ Simpson - go back to p. 131 , how much of ff can carry
forward into next biennium
5:26:42 ~
1/13/2006 3:12:55 PM ~ Brown-Clark not
a limit to how much can be carried over, by fed. law 27 months to spend. If not spent, revert to fed.
5:27:29 ~
1/13/2006 3:13:42 PM ~ Simpson - last year?
5:27:38 ~
1/13/2006 3:13:51 PM ~ Brown-ClarkEnd in fall of 05, 9/30/05
5:28:03 ~
1/13/2006 3:14:16 PM ~ Simpson - $10m carried over?
5:28:13 ~
1/13/2006 3:14:26 PM ~ Peg Brown-Clark- yes, right
5:30:10 ~
1/13/2006 3:16:23 PM ~ McBride We will submit for Rep. Simpson how federal
funds work.
5:30:49 ~
1/13/2006 3:17:02 PM ~ Bohling - explained
5:31:27 ~
1/13/2006 3:17:40 PM ~ Meuli - not pre-schools?
5:31:41 ~
1/13/2006 3:17:55 PM ~ Brown-Clark, not all to K-12, is a portion that goes to
DOH.
5:32:06 ~
1/13/2006 3:18:19 PM ~ Meuli - provide break down
5:32:25 ~
1/13/2006 3:18:38 PM ~ Simpson - provide for 2 bienniums what reverted back to
the feds.
5:32:46 ~
1/13/2006 3:18:59 PM ~ McBride asked fed. govt. to open up to be
reallocated. Will look back 2 cycles,
will ignore this year until resolved.
5:33:30 ~
1/13/2006 3:19:44 PM ~ Simpson - what problems?
5:33:38 ~
1/13/2006 3:19:51 PM ~ McBride - 10 areas, ripple effect back into the
districts, sent 50 letters and 60 e-mails to draw down money we had already
given them. 6 weeks period to hound
them to aggresively allocate, because of reorganization some were overlooked,
now being addressed.
5:35:30 ~
1/13/2006 3:21:43 PM ~ Simpson - ff under p. 3, substantial ff programs, same
issues with these programs? State
funding model, available?
5:36:34 ~
1/13/2006 3:22:47 PM ~ Hansen - no supplanting, special ed. specifically
5:36:59 ~
1/13/2006 3:23:12 PM ~ Bohling - was question specific to special ed.? All?
5:37:17 ~
1/13/2006 3:23:30 PM ~ Simpson - special ed $ applied - do we have some of the issues with this?
5:38:35 ~
1/13/2006 3:24:48 PM ~ Brown-Clark, we are only state that reimburses fed $ at
100%. Fed. $ determine what can
supplement fed. $. May be last minute attempt to supplement. May have carryover, hiring needs for a
specific student who may move from district.
5:40:07 ~
1/13/2006 3:26:20 PM ~ Simpson - instead of reimbursing at 100%, could we let
fed $ pay, then pay w/state $ any thing not pd. by fed. rules.
5:41:08 ~
1/13/2006 3:27:21 PM ~ Brown-Clark can't do this as it would be supplanting,
against the law.
5:41:28 ~
1/13/2006 3:27:41 PM ~ Boehling - Teacher quality, federal $ increased, in
addition to -we monitor that $ is spent as designed to.
5:42:47 ~
1/13/2006 3:29:00 PM ~ Philp - p. 151 commodity distribution - consolidated all
into 1 location, 4 at-will employees -
looking at having commodities to be sent to the district directly, not to 1
location. Now only 1 location in
Laramie and it is for sale.
5:45:46 ~
1/13/2006 3:31:59 PM ~ Anderson - Cash for Commodities, still in effect?
5:46:08 ~
1/13/2006 3:32:21 PM ~ McBride congressional delegation said they could not
support our program. some have opted out of commodity business.
5:46:48 ~
1/13/2006 3:33:01 PM ~ Hines - which enterprise funds?
5:47:14 ~
1/13/2006 3:33:27 PM ~ Hanson - specific for commodities, in and out fund.
5:48:00 ~
1/13/2006 3:34:14 PM ~ Nicholas - call from warehouse, are you looking at
moving service to CO.
5:48:31 ~
1/13/2006 3:34:44 PM ~ McBride - can submit, we have a letter drafted with 3
options. Best option is to negotiate price
and continue to operate as in past.
Don't want to be in freezer/storage business. Had to move commodities by
prior owner. Moving to CO and
distribution back would be more expensive than buying on open market.
5:50:24 ~
1/13/2006 3:36:37 PM ~ Nicholas -
5:50:30 ~
1/13/2006 3:36:43 PM ~ McBride need a rich young lawyer to go into freezer
business.
5:50:48 ~
1/13/2006 3:37:01 PM ~ Anderson - sq. ft. requirements needed?
5:51:05 ~
1/13/2006 3:37:18 PM ~ McBride-67,000 sq. ft. don't need all, but best
5:51:32 ~
1/13/2006 3:37:45 PM ~ Philp - skipped 146
5:52:12 ~
1/13/2006 3:38:25 PM ~ McBride 80% of one position
5:52:22 ~
1/13/2006 3:38:35 PM ~ Philp- also skipped p. 149 $36m in ff.
5:53:18 ~
1/13/2006 3:39:31 PM ~ Philp - p. 155 Comprehensive School Reform Program?
5:53:44 ~
1/13/2006 3:39:57 PM ~ Hansen - discontinued by feds. Should have caught it before it went to the Gov.
5:54:19 ~
1/13/2006 3:40:32 PM ~ Philp - p. 163 p. 166 Denied ff because it was one-time
p. 168 no e.req. p. 168 NAEP no additonal fund, add positon p. 169 after school
learning - move to correct program
5:56:21 ~
1/13/2006 3:42:34 PM ~ Hines - don't see right program.
5:56:39 ~
1/13/2006 3:42:52 PM ~ Philp 179 assessments - 4 AWEC
5:57:37 ~
1/13/2006 3:43:50 PM ~ Jones - need legislative or just budget approval
5:57:54 ~
1/13/2006 3:44:08 PM ~ Philp - when we mark up budget, we will deal with.
5:58:18 ~
1/13/2006 3:44:31 PM ~ McBride - Gov. iniative, not a dept.
recommendation. We will be addressing
all perm. at-will, WIN system e.g. never go away e.g. need to be converrted to
state employees.
5:59:40 ~
1/13/2006 3:45:53 PM ~ Philp - complete 05 budget, go to 205 budget
6:00:42 ~
1/13/2006 3:46:55 PM ~ Nicholas - dept. has put into goldenrod with
recalibration numbers.
6:01:08 ~
1/13/2006 3:47:21 PM ~ McBride - agree a placeholder $ used for
6:01:52 ~
1/13/2006 3:48:05 PM ~ Sommers - still won't know final numbers until bill hits
the floor. Our budget $ will be best we
can do at this time.
6:01:59 ~
1/13/2006 3:48:12 PM ~ Philp - Voc Ed Court ordered placements
6:03:22 ~
1/13/2006 3:49:35 PM ~ Meuli - new money?
6:03:38 ~
1/13/2006 3:49:51 PM ~ Boehling not new money - is vendor budget
6:03:51 ~
1/13/2006 3:50:04 PM ~ Hines - 2-3 others how work in standard budget, dollar
won't be exactly same.
6:04:38 ~
1/13/2006 3:50:51 PM ~ Hill - grant programs separate from block grants in new
model. That funding remains constant.
6:05:16 ~
1/13/2006 3:51:29 PM ~ Simpson - court ordered placements juvenile detention
$2m?
6:05:45 ~
1/13/2006 3:51:58 PM ~ Budget Analyst explained
6:06:24 ~
1/13/2006 3:52:37 PM ~ Simpson leave up to DFS for exception request. Why don't you have an exc. req?
6:07:05 ~
1/13/2006 3:53:18 PM ~ Hansen - not for tuition, COPs kids several year
detention.
6:07:36 ~
1/13/2006 3:53:49 PM ~ Hansen $2m appropriation not needed, shoud be about $1m
6:08:19 ~
1/13/2006 3:54:32 PM ~ Hines-standard budget? 328 in 2005, judge how many in
2006, anticipate higher?
6:09:14 ~
1/13/2006 3:55:27 PM ~ Hansen - did not spend all, plan to revert some $
6:11:00 ~
1/13/2006 3:57:13 PM ~ Job - audit of Boys and Girls Schools, not receiving
same $ as other schools.
6:11:38 ~
1/13/2006 3:57:51 PM ~ McBride - talked with school administrators at schools,
very pleased with existing funding. My
opinion is that these kids need more not less. Would like to work with Sen. Job
and will be visiting both schools. If
happy, they are giving mixed messages.
We do need to pursue.
6:13:21 ~
1/13/2006 3:59:34 PM ~ Simpson - COPS and juvenile retention, same $ or new
EORG?
6:13:52 ~
1/13/2006 4:00:05 PM ~ Hansen - correct, continuation of Legis. passed 2 years
ago, school foundation $
6:14:35 ~
1/13/2006 4:00:48 PM ~ Simpson - don't understand why not under COP.
6:14:54 ~
1/13/2006 4:01:07 PM ~ Hansen - statute requires COP within BOSCES. Never been put into statute, is a session
law.
6:15:32 ~
1/13/2006 4:01:45 PM ~ Anderson - Need to show what is done after release and
back into mainstream.
6:16:28 ~
1/13/2006 4:02:41 PM ~ McBride just discussed today, will get info to you.
6:16:43 ~
1/13/2006 4:02:56 PM ~ Berger - continued conversation with Girls School. Thank
you.
6:17:08 ~
1/13/2006 4:03:21 PM ~ Hansen - did I answer Rep. Simpson's ?
6:17:39 ~
1/13/2006 4:03:52 PM ~ Hansen - the kids are in jail.
6:17:50 ~
1/13/2006 4:04:03 PM ~ Philp p. 19 p. 23 Student Assessment
6:18:33 ~
1/13/2006 4:04:46 PM ~ Bohling WYCAS served us well, only at selected
levels, adopting a system to test at
all levels for various subjects. New
assessment system is for individual proficiency under WYCAS, different animal.
Task force worked on design for 1 1/2 yrs.
RFP selected testing techniques.
Multiple opportunities given if student didn't do well - unique system grades 3-8 take test in
Jan., teachers in drivers seat, deciding which students take which test again
with parallel prompt. Took time out of
equations and student ready. Get 1 time
to retake. HS give 6 retakes if
wanted. USDE has approved banking of
scores and multiple opportunities.
Require a lot of understanding of teachers. Supports instruction, a combination of paper pencil and on-line
testing to allow instant feedback.
6:25:42 ~
1/13/2006 4:11:55 PM ~ Philp - when first time?
6:25:59 ~
1/13/2006 4:12:13 PM ~ Bohling - April of this year
6:26:11 ~
1/13/2006 4:12:24 PM ~ Philp - contracts already let?
6:26:21 ~
1/13/2006 4:12:34 PM ~ Bohling - yes, spent over a year, will be delivered in
April.
6:26:51 ~
1/13/2006 4:13:04 PM ~ Philp - cost already been paid?
6:27:04 ~
1/13/2006 4:13:17 PM ~ Bohling - get pd. 3 times per yr., went thru RFP
process, $5m + retakes est. about $1m+ per yr.
Asking for $1.9 for retakes
6:28:08 ~
1/13/2006 4:14:21 PM ~ Job - total cost of contract
6:28:18 ~
1/13/2006 4:14:31 PM ~ Bohling $28m for 4 years - we are in 1st yr.
6:28:49 ~
1/13/2006 4:15:02 PM ~ Nicholas - $1.9 not in budget now
6:29:01 ~
1/13/2006 4:15:14 PM ~ Nicholas - do schools have capacity to have that many
students online?
6:29:30 ~
1/13/2006 4:15:43 PM ~ Bohling will start retakes next year. Ratio very good for computers/students = 4/1
now. May need to give 1 extra week in large schools. Oregon model.
6:30:38 ~
1/13/2006 4:16:51 PM ~ Bohling reduced amt. of time online
6:31:00 ~
1/13/2006 4:17:13 PM ~ Case - time taken to take all tests w/o retakes.
6:31:25 ~
1/13/2006 4:17:38 PM ~ Bohling - not a timed test, best estimate = slightly
less than 1 hour for each content area = 8 hours at most broken up in
sub-tests. Less than 50 min. in most
cases. 3,4,5,6,7,8, 11 part of test, In
HS can take a portion which will not count against proficiency if chosen to
6:34:15 ~
1/13/2006 4:20:28 PM ~ Case - what other types of testing?
6:35:07 ~
1/13/2006 4:21:20 PM ~ Bohling we had only 3 states that outperformed us,we are
showing progress. Not yet where we want
to be, but we are showing growth.
6:35:44 ~
1/13/2006 4:21:57 PM ~ Case - which test satisfies No Child Left Behind?
6:36:17 ~
1/13/2006 4:22:31 PM ~ Boehling - when we were 27th in math, not all states
took test, now all states take them, and we are 7th.
6:36:54 ~
1/13/2006 4:23:07 PM ~ Petersen - appreciate discussion of PAWS/WYCAS. How well are students/teachers prepared for
PAWS?
6:37:50 ~
1/13/2006 4:24:03 PM ~ McBride - working daily to ensure districts are ready
for PAWS and other agencies. We deal
with districts on an individual basis, and are putting all into a notebook
form. Only online portion is multiple
choice section. Feedback addressing
indiv. needs. We need to address
problem areas
6:40:08 ~ 1/13/2006
4:26:21 PM ~ Bohling - show longitudinally, teacher will be able to see history
by skill on Day 1 for what help is needed for each child. Vastly different from WYCAS, teachers who
are working on this are excited.
6:41:58 ~
1/13/2006 4:28:11 PM ~ Hines - retake for 1 yr. funding?
6:42:18 ~
1/13/2006 4:28:31 PM ~ Bohling $3 for both years, unknown about $ for
retakes. May be lower.Estimate.
6:43:02 ~
1/13/2006 4:29:16 PM ~ Anderson - WYCAS primarily an assessment tool, and PAWs
is this + an instructional tool.
6:43:38 ~
1/13/2006 4:29:52 PM ~ Bohling - inciteful, will give learning progress maps.
6:44:10 ~
1/13/2006 4:30:23 PM ~ Jorgensen - on PAWS, 11th grade retakes?
6:44:34 ~
1/13/2006 4:30:48 PM ~ Bohling - 11th grade is the proficiency leve. If in 9th or 10th. if good, could take both
and never have to take in 11th. grade.
6:45:40 ~
1/13/2006 4:31:53 PM ~ Jorgensen - 2 chances - my experience is licensing tests
that first time takers do better than subsequent tests.
6:46:43 ~
1/13/2006 4:32:56 PM ~ Bohling - immediate results help make more success the
next tiem.
6:47:23 ~
1/13/2006 4:33:35 PM ~ Pause
6:47:23 ~
1/13/2006 4:33:38 PM ~ Resume
6:47:28 ~
1/13/2006 4:33:43 PM ~ Philp - take a 10 minute break.
6:55:59 ~
1/13/2006 4:42:14 PM ~ Bohling - asking for child readiness test, work with DFS
and preschool teachers to guage readiness
6:57:11 ~
1/13/2006 4:43:26 PM ~ Anderson - traditionally special ed $ for students now
becoming more focused on early intervention.
Tool?
6:58:21 ~ 1/13/2006
4:44:35 PM ~ Brown-Clark yes, looking at students not yet identified with a
disability. Help teachers.
6:59:21 ~
1/13/2006 4:45:35 PM ~ Philp - p.26 WEN budget Wyoming Equality Network only
state has full blown across all levels.
It expires in a few months. Hope
new contract amt. will be available before session discussion on budget.
7:01:20 ~
1/13/2006 4:47:35 PM ~ Philp CIO review
7:01:30 ~
1/13/2006 4:47:45 PM ~ McBride yes
7:01:37 ~
1/13/2006 4:47:52 PM ~ Philp - p. 34
McBride - Execption Budget Requst
to connect all data across state. WISE Implementation is statewide
gathering of data statewide, will allow paper handling to be decreased.
7:03:50 ~
1/13/2006 4:50:04 PM ~ Philp - Reading Assessment reduction?
7:04:09 ~
1/13/2006 4:50:24 PM ~ Hansen - don't fund. Will be in recalibration adjustment
7:04:49 ~
1/13/2006 4:51:04 PM ~ Hansen - recap, Ewaste only exception request the Gov.
cut. Thank Joyce Heffinider and Dianne
Bailey 82,265 = only 7 student drop, smallest amt.
7:06:16 ~ 1/13/2006
4:52:31 PM ~ Philp - thank you for your presentation - adjourned at 4:55 p.m.
7:06:40 ~
1/13/2006 4:52:54 PM ~ Pause
7:06:40 ~
1/13/2006 4:52:54 PM ~ Adjourned
7:06:40 ~
1/13/2006 5:14:55 PM ~ Stop Recording