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JAC 06
BUDGET HEARINGS 01/16/2006
2006 Budget
Hearings, January 16, 2006,#080 Department of Corrections, #049 Department of
Family Services
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Recording
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Jeffy Wiggins Explained mission of Department Working to keep prisoners from
reoffending Minimal Budget Not asking more than sincerely need Explained needs
Gave background on requests for personnel Need to control growth of state
government Will probably see them back on supplemental budget Need staff in
prisons to hold prisoners accountable and control negative behavior Will walk
through the budget can use handout Page 4 aof adendum and page 9 and 10 of the
budget document 2001 beds upon completion of new construction Projections outlined Page 11 of budget document will
show average in probation and parole These are projections Page 12 is
organizational chart with updated chart Introductions of personnel Page 14
first budget exception request Tobacco cessation program Asks for approval of
JAC Question by Representative Question
by Representative Warren Page 18
Education Expense--explained the program Page 19 is request for program
specialist Priority 1 Priority 2 on page 20 Question by Rep, Simpson and
request for clarification of where exceptions are Back to Priority 2 Education and Program Supplies Question by
Sen.. Anderson Response by Director Rep. Muili
Question on listing as one time funding? Response on funding--not one
time. Priority No. 3 on page 21 is staffing request Question by Sen. Chairman
about staffing Torrington Response by Director Question by Rep. Warren on
denial of Admin. support position Response by Director disagrees with statement
at bottom of page 21 This is no. 73 on the staffing request Page 25. Support Services Division New division. Priority 1. Request for program administrator Question by Sen. Nicholas on
contract Response by Director on benefits of having contractor Additional
question by Sen. Nicholas on health care providers Response by Director on benefits of having contract Further question by Sen. Nicholas Response
by Director on increased costs due to inmates returning to Wyoming Question by
Senate Chairman Respnse by Director Question by Sen. Nicholas on contract. Next
Priority request is conversion of position
No. 38 Page 27 Prioity No. 3 is for travel and support for new division No. 74 of Priority Question by Senate Chairman on new division Response by Director
Inmate housing for funding for out of state housing Priority No. 1 (No. 8 on
overall) Priority No. 2 is staffing
request (No. 29 on overall) convert AWAC Priority No. 3 on page 34 -- moving
money for new prison Page 38 Senator Nicholas going back to prior priority
asking for more explanation on transferring for new facilities. Also question on if having prisoners in
state will cost less or more. Question by Senate Chairman on capital
construction funding. Response. Page 38 is training center cost center. Prioity 1 (#20 on overall) request for
additional staffing. Priority 2 page 39 is request for travel and educational
materials funding. (#41 on overall list) Page 44 Centralized purchacing
Exception 1 request for position Question by Sen. Anderson about returning
inmates and how this investigator would work with locals. Response by Director
on investigators working with locals and resources available. Question by Rep.
Muili on investigator time line. Response by Director on time line of position
effective dates Priority No. 2 page 45 for human resources officer denied by
Governor Question by Rep. Muili Response on where position fit in. Priority No.
3 page 46 employee wellness initiatives Question by Senate Chairman on location
of individual's office. Response by Director indicates person should by located
off site Rep. Berger. question on turnover Response by director on turnover
rate. Discussion of turnover rates.
Question by Sen. Nicholas on space rental Response by Director that some space
is available, but concern is belief that employee wellness should be off site
so that it will be used by staff. Question by Rep. Warren. On position would be for entire state? Direct services or giving referals Response
would be for entire state Page 47 and 48 staffing requestion (Priority 46 on
overall). Question by Sen. Nicholas. on
computer issues. Response by Director and explanation of interaction with
A&I Page 49 (No. 54 on overall).
Outside investigator. Have filed
motion to terminate Skinner decision.
Priority #6 page 49 (57 overall)
Investigative unit.
Investigators and travel expenses. Question by Sen. Chairman. Response
by Directory on use of investigator. Sen. Chairman states costs are 2 1/2 times
greater. Director: This would be
due to investigations with probation and parole. Have been paying out of regular budget. Clarification by Steve
Lindly regarding requirement to investigate all alleged confrontations. Question by Sen. Chairman on why they are not
stationed (at least some of them) in Rawlins.
Response: Need to be removed
from direct contact with prison.
Question by Rep. Muili Response by Director: on investigation of assaults.
Question by Rep. Muili on outside investigators Response by Director: Yes they have contracts for outside
investigators. Sen. Nicholas: Very
difficult to have any appreciation of each item. Staffing, housing, national averages, housing out of state, and
great to go through individually maybe need to consolidate to clarify. Response
by Director: When we get to honor farm
we have done what you have asked (consolidation of information of staff
analysis). Dept. of Corrections is not
only prisons. Sen. Nicholas: Question
on whether national standards are available for staffing. Response by
Director: Have not done this to date.
Rep, Warren question: Hard to get
overall picture. Would be helpful to
have map where different facilities, and staffing, and also field services so
that they would have overall picture.
Director response indicates they could probably do that with
organization charts. Priority No. 7 page 50 (overall No. 59) Wyoming Criminal Information System. Move to web based program. Disagrees with Governor and gave
explanation. Priority No. 8 through 18 with exception 15 be moved in mass. Approved by Sen. Chairman. Priority No. 15
Automated fingerprint system. Question
by Rep. Muili on computer replacement plan within department. Response by Director: Bulk is replacement. Program calls for 6 year replacement. Rep.
Simpson. Exception Requestion 11 page
52 and 53. Can that be used for sex
offender registeries? Director: Intent
is to track sex offenders Director:
Page 63. health care for inmates
Priority No. 1. Contractual budget
increases. Question by Rep. Muili:
Question on contractor. Response:
CMS was primarily and Wexford.
Question by Rep. Muili. Combining cut
down costs. However, where do figures
come from? Director: Came from internal
experience and vendors on anticipated costs.
Steve Lindly gave further explanation on RFP requests. Difficult negotiation. Rep. Muili question on whether 2 year
extension. Contractor would have option
to change after 2 years. Director: They
do have ability to renegotiate. We also
have ability to renegotiate. Rep.
Muili: Do you have opportunity to
manage medical cases to control medical costs? Response by Director: Have nurse on staff to monitor. Question by Sen. Anderson on very expensive
medical issues. Perscription drugs--how
are we handling? Doing anything in that
area? Director: Have formula to meet
needs of inmates. Rep. Anderson: We all receive complaints. One is often I am not getting my meds. How do you make sure meds are being
delivered. Director: We sometimes have
to use complaint system to find out problems. Steve Lindly: Contract with medical association to assess
medical care. They issue a report. Senator Nicholas: No way for him to judge whether we are in the ballpark. Do other states staff their own facilities?
Director: Number of states that provide
for own medical states is fewer and fewer.
Group of vendors available to number of agencies. Sen. Nichols asks that
they give costs per day Director: We
could do that Rep. Muili: Are vendors
they required to provide liability insurance? Director: My understanding is tht they do have
personal liability insurance for their providers. Rep. Muili: If prisoners requires transpant are they required
to do that? Lindly: They have to
provide comprabable care. Muile: Is erectile
dysfunction covered? Lindly: Not that I
know of. Director: Page 66. Substance
abuse treatment units for most severe inmates.
Reduction of federal funding and request general funds. Senate
Chairman: Question of Mr. McVey. Can you get listing of reduction of federal
funding? McVey: Yes. Chairman: Can you give us a sheet. McVey: Yes Rep. Warren: Question Director: Yes, provider of care. Priority No. 2 on
page 67. Estimating costs will go up.
Page 70. Priority 1 (no. 7 overall)
provide funding for returning inmates. Senator Nicholas: The substance abuse is contracted to
different contractors? Director: They
have subcontracted. Sen. Nicholas:
Substance abuse treatment we have interest of knowing--how do you
monitor. Lindly: With program managers
are involved in day-to-day monitor. As
to overall, that is part of process we are involved in getting all that
information together. Director: Part of
contract requires tracking. Sen.
Nicholas: Are they flying substance
abuse counselers in? Director:
Employees of vendor in local areas.
If no need for full time, they travel to areas. Lindly: Agency has identified 5 primary goals. Director:
Page 75 Industries. Requests of positions. Short time frame to
turn around program to become fully self sufficient. Rep. Petersen
One of concerns is outside contractors. Director: Part of statutory
charge is that we are not in conflict of private individuals. These programs are more traditionsl
industries. i.e. construction
trades. Some coming back in are print
shop, clothing, furniture building or repair.
Rep. Petersen We receive letters from inmates as they
relate to employment are automotive skills.
What happened to metal stamping shop? Director: North facility in Rawlins closed. That was metal shop. Now are in the process and doing assessment
of what works best in developing employable skills. That is focus of traditional skills. Have no plan to return to license stamping industry. The new facility in Torrington is planned
for vehicle restoration and governmental entities. Page 80 Senate Chairman:
You are talking about reduced costs: Break at 10:02 for 10 minutes.
Director: Puts burden of communication
on families. Does not feel that burden
should be on families. Trying to reduce
costs of that program.
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1/16/2006 10:16:22 AM ~ Page 83. These
are total number of prisoners Page 84.
Exception request one trainer position.
this will provide for trainer.
Priority No. 5 Rep. Mueli: In
this request. There is request for
space which Gov. allowed. Director:
Page 85. Request for HR
position. Would allow for person to
manage. Would ask that space rental be
put in. Priority No. 6 Request for field agents. Asking for 8--Governor recommends 6. Priority No. 4 Page 87. (43 overall) Request for 2 positions would support Cheyenne and Gillette
offices. Priority No. 5 (overall 49). Vehicle request. Needed for new agents. Priority No. 6. Office space request for Pinedale and Sundance. Also ADA compliant for R.S. Prioirty No.
7. One IT specialist. Denied by Governor. Need could be shifted if IT manager position
is approved. Priority No. 8 (No 58 overall).
Software request. Comprehensive
case management program. Provide real
time management. Question by Rep.
Warren: Are the two software programs
required or can one work without the other? Director: They work together, but can work independently. Priority No. 9
(overall 97) page 92. Vehicles. Senator
Nichols: Do you have a person on the
work group relating to offender integrated justice system. Director:
Data will be come more integrated. House chairman: Where is this person? Director: Page
98. Brian Odekoven feels county jails
costs should be increased. Page 96.
Question by Senate Chairman about whether costs do include food Lindly: It does cover food. Page 101. Staffing request. Priority 1. positions. Transitional and supervision of drug court
Prioity 2. Vehicles to support
additional staff. (39 on overall) Page
103. Staffing request for support
position. Page 104. Priority 4.
motor vehicle charges Page 110
AOAA substance abuse assessments prior to sentencing. Priority No. 1 (overall 50). Convert AWAC positions to full time
positions. Rep. Warren: Page 110 If full time employees will help
them remain independent. Ms.
Sheehan: Explanation of
independent. Rep. Simpson. These seem to be the types of positions that
maybe should be outside providers.
Maybe we should contract within communities. Director: Services
available at community level are taxed already. Ms. Sheehan: Has been
ongoing as to what is the best model.
Problem previously that they had a problem with getting consistent
information. Feels they have right
program now. Simpson: Where are they
located Sheehan: Cheyenne, Gillette, Lander,
Rock Springs, Laramie. also person to
allow to travel for overload.
Simpson: Seems that Lander
region going into Teton, but have people giving assessments all the time. The amount would go a long way. Not convinced that is right way to go.
Sheehan: What we felt we could
accomplish is that we have assessors working with probabion and parole for
better coordination. Rep. Warren: Thinks program is evolving. Thinks there may be duplicative
reports. Could this program be looked
at to make certain there is not duplication.
Maybe some real scrutiny of program.
That would help. Sheehan: I
could not agree with you more. Prison
Division Honor Camp in Newcastle. Director:
I would like to explain the handout dated January 16, 2006. Page 4, 9 and 11. Page 4 breaks out beds.
Page 5, shows locations of programs and services. Pages 6 and 7 calculations for relief
factors. Question by Rep. Simpson: What
was the statement on 24/7.
Director: Explanation of
factors. Starting at Page 8 Outline of staffing baselines. Page 11. Number of staff asked for relative to number
of inmates. Page 115 Honor Conservation
Camp Explanation of building project.
Page 12 shows outline of base line staffing Page 15 of handout shows security codes listed and proposed
staffing by class. Rep. Simpson. On
page 15 what are bold designations. Director:
These are the supervisory positions. Rep. Simpson. What happens to funds that are left
over. Director. Project not completed. Request that the money not revert to general
fund. Request that funds be held in
reserve. Priority 1 staffing request.
13 overall. Page 116. Has effective date listed. p. 117 #2
2:55:13 ~
1/16/2006 11:03:36 AM ~ Lampert - shortage in travel budget #4 Inmate drug
testing #5 holding cells for behavioral
problems, equipment, 6 officers - one-time request, Gov concurs p. 124 stafing
at Honor Camp, one position effective immediately
2:57:58 ~
1/16/2006 11:06:21 AM ~ Warren - maintenance - are inmates used for it?
2:58:17 ~
1/16/2006 11:06:40 AM ~ Lampert - depends on facility and restrictions. Honor Camp yes, but at pen, inmates cannot
work around tools.
2:59:06 ~
1/16/2006 11:07:29 AM ~ Simpson - staffing ratio? Supervise how many?
2:59:30 ~
1/16/2006 11:07:53 AM ~ Lampert - stay same. Baseline p. 10 of handout is based
upon institution and sq. ft. Less women
can be used in this area, don't have machinery skills.
3:00:39 ~
1/16/2006 11:09:02 AM ~ Lampert #2 utility increase # 3 p. 126
3:01:43 ~
1/16/2006 11:10:06 AM ~ Nicholas requested cost of bobcats, etc.
3:01:57 ~
1/16/2006 11:10:20 AM ~ Lampert - Gov. denied flooring and paint request for
the 3rd time. Major problems are
upcoming without maintenance. Ask for
consideration for full amount.
3:03:01 ~
1/16/2006 11:11:24 AM ~ Nicholas - sq. ft. in major mtnce. formula. Isn't it up to you to allocate within a
total amt.?
3:03:32 ~
1/16/2006 11:11:55 AM ~ Lampert - not way it has worked, is not proportionate
to sq. ft. #5 MVMS increase, gov. concurred. p. 131 our priority 15 Gov.
approved all positions except 2. Want
to reserve ability to return if bootcamp population increases. # Asking for 18 mo. funding
3:06:46 ~
1/16/2006 11:15:09 AM ~ Hines - supplemental budget have enough $ for the 6
months?
3:07:04 ~
1/16/2006 11:15:28 AM ~ Lampert - will make it work. #5 staffing request w/zero
dollars, taking specialist from Inmate Assist Fund since revenue is going away.
p. 147 Women's Center - p. 16 Handout is similar to State Pen, total staff is
57. More med. prisoners take more
staff. p. 19 handout staffing time line explained. $18m remodeling project,
renovation of areas, Expect 5% overruns
mostly in optical facility. Can handle
within funding stream from other projects.
Will bring our women prisons back soon. Expect doubling of population by
2115. More staff will be required. Some are effective immediately. We will be back.
3:14:27 ~
1/16/2006 11:22:50 AM ~ Warren - will you be able to fill all of these
positions?
3:14:40 ~
1/16/2006 11:23:03 AM ~ Lampert - yes and maybe. Smaller institution have had no problems getting staff, pen
has. People want to go to work for us
in smaller communities. Gov. denied 2
staffs. Agree we can delay these. p. 151 #3 vehicle. p. 157#1 fulltime plumber
- denied, will request on Supplemental budget. #2 utilities increase #3 Motor
vehicles supplies, apporoved #4 #5 is 99 overall priority, p. 166 Programs
management, 15 new positions and 1 AWEC in this area. p. 19 of handout will come back in Supplemental Budget 32, p. 169
expect food costs to raise, trying to address diets of prisoners, holistic
approach
3:21:25 ~
1/16/2006 11:29:48 AM ~ Meuli - USDA commodities?
3:21:36 ~
1/16/2006 11:29:59 AM ~ Lampert We don't get them any longer.
3:21:47 ~
1/16/2006 11:30:10 AM ~ Lampert 160% telecomunications increase, Gov reduces #4
Education/Programming Supplies 84% success rate of program, want to expand. Gov
approved $84,905. #5 Equipment, Gov approved Niobrara Health & Life Center
& WWC critical relationship, $800,000 one-time funds. Used to need to transport medical needs took
4 staff. Need is reduced with facilites
in Lusk. Staff had to take day off to
go for medical care personally to Scottsbluff, hospital important to us.
Hospital is on critical edge of closing, Operated 2 months without Medicare
revenue stream, and ate up reserves.
WBC has audited hospital, this recommendation is based on audit. P. 171.
DOH, WBC and DOC will cooperate to create & review a business plan
to ensure hospital district is in best position. $50,000 expected for consultant & study. $750K backup for continuing hospital in
Lusk. With our assistance, we should
succeed.
3:32:04 ~
1/16/2006 11:40:27 AM ~ Nicholas what happens if they cannot provide inmate
care?
3:32:08 ~
1/16/2006 11:40:31 AM ~
3:32:43 ~
1/16/2006 11:41:06 AM ~ Lampert - refer to closest community if cnnot. Don't have to pay higher fee, but don't have
to pay transport costs.
3:33:41 ~
1/16/2006 11:42:04 AM ~ Nicholas - They have only medical side of this later.
3:33:57 ~
1/16/2006 11:42:20 AM ~ Lampert - in-state handling, if we have to go out of
state, raise other issues. Female
inmates have to go to Casper if cannot do in community. Our concern is to have facility close by.
3:35:20 ~
1/16/2006 11:43:43 AM ~ Nicholas - PHS, do they also bill Medicare?
3:35:39 ~
1/16/2006 11:44:02 AM ~ Lampert - No, inmates are constitutionally guaranteed
medical costs, not eligible for Medicare.
Is 100% reimbursed by provider (state or other.) Donna Sheen - may be a
way to structure Medicaid reimbursement.
3:37:38 ~
1/16/2006 11:46:01 AM ~ Nicholas - putting too much money into?
3:38:06 ~
1/16/2006 11:46:29 AM ~
3:38:26 ~
1/16/2006 11:46:49 AM ~ Lampert - visiting with medical facilities within
communities. Torrington, can they put all medical expenses in one pot. Need to be sure quality stays up.
3:39:49 ~
1/16/2006 11:48:12 AM ~ Anderson - obstetrics?
3:39:58 ~
1/16/2006 11:48:21 AM ~ Lampert - can't answer. New Torrington facility will have 11 beds for OBGYN if needed,
contracted staff.
3:40:53 ~
1/16/2006 11:49:16 AM ~ Berger - cost ananysis to compare out of community and
in community?
3:41:16 ~
1/16/2006 11:49:39 AM ~ Lampert - ballpark figures, have not done formal
study. Gave figures on hours x staff
pay rate, security cost alone adds up quickly.
3:42:14 ~
1/16/2006 11:50:37 AM ~ Meuli - hospital have designation of cheap care access
so they can get reimbursement for both Medicare and Medicaid?
3:42:56 ~
1/16/2006 11:51:19 AM ~ Lampert - refer to
Mel Zumbrennan, head of hospital district, can stay in cheap care up to
90 days based upon doctors orders. Contract provider is in 70s, likely won't
practice that much longer. In process
of contracting with 3 others. We are
servicing in our facility. Contract
officer would serve inmates in prison.
3:45:20 ~
1/16/2006 11:53:44 AM ~ Meuli - if $ given, assurance from community that they
will continue to give Medicare and Medicaid funding.
3:46:07 ~
1/16/2006 11:54:30 AM ~ Zembrunnen - appreciate SLIB contracts and direct
appropriations and we appreciate
all. Senator Townsend gave list. We gave free health care to Medicare and
Medicaid patients for 2 months. Survey
gone after up and running. We have
excellent facility, 3 providers, staff.
3:48:10 ~
1/16/2006 11:56:33 AM ~ Job - how often did you have to transport to Casper
within a year.
3:48:32 ~
1/16/2006 11:56:55 AM ~ Lampert - all deliveries, 9 per year was bulk of
transports. Higher risk pregnancy,
partnership with hospital in Casper, transport monthly during 9 month terms.
3:49:31 ~
1/16/2006 11:57:54 AM ~ Job - will Torrington take OBGYN?
3:49:48 ~
1/16/2006 11:58:11 AM ~ Lampert - hope to do within facility. May be some which will have to go to Casper
still.
3:50:20 ~
1/16/2006 11:58:43 AM ~ Hines - continue wi/Women's Center
3:50:37 ~
1/16/2006 11:59:01 AM ~ Lampert - contine with Honor Farm, p. 182
3:51:18 ~
1/16/2006 11:59:41 AM ~ Hines - take lunch break, continue at 1:00.
3:51:25 ~
1/16/2006 11:59:47 AM ~ Pause
3:51:25 ~
1/16/2006 12:59:53 PM ~ Resume
3:51:35 ~
1/16/2006 1:00:03 PM ~ Resume at 1:00
3:52:34 ~
1/16/2006 1:01:02 PM ~ Lampert - p. 154 - Honor camp p. 186 - # 3 - p. 187, # 4 p. 193, #4 Employee travel &
training p. 194 -#5 - Facility repair & maintenance serv/supplies
3:56:29 ~
1/16/2006 1:04:57 PM ~ Meuli - Are you included in the major maintenance in A
& I?
3:57:05 ~
1/16/2006 1:05:32 PM ~ Lampert - We are in the mix, but we don't always make
the cut. p. 197 #1 - Staffing Req. p. 200-201 #3 - Programming materials &
travel - ask your full funding p. 205 -
4:00:10 ~
1/16/2006 1:08:37 PM ~ Philp - When you have the horse sale does revenue go
back to BLM? Yes
4:00:35 ~
1/16/2006 1:09:03 PM ~ Lampert - p. 212- #1- Purchase for resale-commissary
items
4:01:40 ~
1/16/2006 1:10:08 PM ~ Nicholas - Does this give you purchasing or does the
money return to gen. fund?
4:02:11 ~
1/16/2006 1:10:39 PM ~ Lampert - p. 217 - #1 - Staffing Req. - Need to return those indiv. to WSP Would
to disagree w/ the governor - One of issues w/ court is # of staff and # of
searchs - need to close that gap and get us out from under that litigation #2,
p. 219 - equip and uniforms necessary
#3, p. 219 - We 've already had 2 engines replaced - they have over 200K
miles- we've downsized to economize on the gas p. 230 - #1 - staffing for rec.
specialist- keeps inmates from being so mischievous- also more instructors p. 233 - #3 - Food and food service
supplies - haven't asked for inc. cost for food for 4 yrs. p. 36-38 of handout
- this is for Torrington facility p.
247 #1 movement of funds - movement of funds p. 249 - Ask that you honor gov.
rec. of $8,215, 335 p. 250 #3 supportive services p. 268 - Facility management - Ref. p. 34 & 35 shows schedule of when diff. positions will
come on board p. 279 - #3 Supportive services, #4 One time start up funding. p.
280 -#5 computer equipment- CIO approved all p. 290 - #1 - Start up funding for
WMCI/Canteen p. 293 - WHF - Facility
expansion - Horse Training Facility - SBC didn't recommend it, gov did rec.
$70K doesn't give enough -
4:28:19 ~
1/16/2006 1:36:47 PM ~ Hines - What did the doubling come from?
4:28:39 ~
1/16/2006 1:37:07 PM ~ Lampert -Estimated receipts are double, but that inc.
the cow, calf operations and the horses. p. 296 - #1 - New prison -
construction funds We have engaged in
very progressive value engineering exercises- saved about 700K $ through
this. Original req. was $76 Mil and
approved by the legislature - gov. rec. that 3.8 Mil be added. Currently we are advertising for
contractors. We should be able to get
some with this.
4:38:19 ~
1/16/2006 1:46:47 PM ~ Nicholas - What are the anticipated overages that you
think you should have from the projects?
4:38:48 ~
1/16/2006 1:47:16 PM ~ Lampert - Over 2 mil $ - would like to keep in
contingency fund in case we need them.
4:39:22 ~
1/16/2006 1:47:50 PM ~ Nicholas - 6.5 is for estimate of price increases- but
we're asking for an additional 1.4 mil.
4:40:44 ~
1/16/2006 1:49:11 PM ~ Lampert - 64 mil for onsight construction - remainder is
for off sight infrastructure - it is about 11 mil.
4:41:52 ~
1/16/2006 1:50:20 PM ~ Philp - Could you give us piece of paper that has this? Anderson -
4:43:08 ~
1/16/2006 1:51:36 PM ~ Lampert - no additional direct cost to state.
4:43:39 ~
1/16/2006 1:52:07 PM ~ Warren - What about cost for bringing inmates back to
state?
4:44:27 ~
1/16/2006 1:52:55 PM ~ Lampert - We will be fully up and operational and will
phase in gradually.
4:45:00 ~
1/16/2006 1:53:28 PM ~ Philp - Thought that services would be provided for
infrastructure??
4:46:28 ~
1/16/2006 1:54:56 PM ~ Lampert - Want to expand the intake process - need some.
Bringing back to state should be about same cost to either town.
4:49:20 ~
1/16/2006 1:57:47 PM ~ Pause
4:49:20 ~
1/16/2006 2:05:14 PM ~ Resume
4:49:21 ~
1/16/2006 2:05:14 PM ~ Hines - Thank you for you presentation. We'll take a 5 min. break and then take up
Family Services.
4:49:30 ~
1/16/2006 2:05:23 PM ~ Hines - Our next budget is the Dept of Family Services
4:50:04 ~
1/16/2006 2:05:57 PM ~ Rodger McDaniel
- Opening remarks First
exception req. p. 21 - increase stipends have not been raised in 25 yrs. Schedule suggested for diff. age groups
5:06:55 ~
1/16/2006 2:22:49 PM ~ Foster parent spoke as to why need to have inc. stipends
5:09:33 ~
1/16/2006 2:25:27 PM ~ Meuli - Who trains these parents?
5:09:53 ~
1/16/2006 2:25:46 PM ~ McDaniel - PPP trains parents
5:10:16 ~
1/16/2006 2:26:09 PM ~ Meuli - do they have ed. for this?
5:10:35 ~
1/16/2006 2:26:28 PM ~ McDaniel - If you'd like to know the specific
requirements.
5:11:42 ~
1/16/2006 2:27:36 PM ~ Simpson - Could we have list of Grants-in-Aid program?
5:13:34 ~
1/16/2006 2:29:27 PM ~ Nicholas - What about RFP's?
5:13:52 ~
1/16/2006 2:29:45 PM ~ McDaniel - If budget is approved the RFD's will be
issued in July. TANF is a block grant
of 18.5 Mil $$. p. 23 - priority #16 -
staffing request - for social service aides etc. In 6 counties - help others to do their duties
5:15:59 ~
1/16/2006 2:31:52 PM ~ Simpson - Is revenue source 7909 what title is it? Title 4
5:16:48 ~
1/16/2006 2:32:42 PM ~ McDaniel - A & I has told us that we need to replace
these vehicles - workers meet once a month w/ children - these are for people
in the field. We are doing that at
about 90% - they are traveling more so we need these new vehicles. p. 31 - in Community Crisis Beds - map that shows where we have beds - We need to have more beds for a couple of
different places - reservations and Powell - in Big Horn Basin The thought is that these 4 go to Powelll,
move some to Carbon from Cody.
5:21:24 ~
1/16/2006 2:37:17 PM ~ Philp - What kind of a timeline will this be?
5:22:40 ~ 1/16/2006
2:38:33 PM ~ McDaniel - We'll need them before the supplemental budget.
Some asked for break down of what is being spent on COPS - Are spending
$38mil per year. Frontier Corrections provides a big service for them. We have contract w/ co to evaluate these
things. Another contractor provides
evaluation of children to see if they are where they need to be. WY has received a mental health grant and
this is good. We have drug courts,
family courts, etc. All of these help
children and families. Can help
prevent flow of children into system with all of these programs.
5:28:42 ~
1/16/2006 2:44:35 PM ~ Job - Judges are concerned took DFS rec. and took that
the DFS workers didn't want to look at other options. How do you go about finding the best service at the most
economical cost.
5:29:49 ~
1/16/2006 2:45:43 PM ~ McDaniel - When judges talk about taking rec. of
team. We do have an objective 3rd party
evaluation before the child has been placed.
Workers in field are being given training.
5:31:16 ~
1/16/2006 2:47:10 PM ~ Nicholas - Are you serving about
5:34:35 ~
1/16/2006 2:50:29 PM ~ Meuli - What about the high end placements?
5:34:52 ~
1/16/2006 2:50:45 PM ~ McDaniel - I'll get that for you.
5:35:12 ~
1/16/2006 2:51:05 PM ~ Simpson - Can you provide the breakdown of how TANF
funds are spent?
5:36:46 ~
1/16/2006 2:52:40 PM ~ McDaniel - 4.9 mil is spend for cash assistance, 1.85
mil goes to social services block grant, home nurse visitation service, etc.
Counties can apply for sm. grants to work on self-sufficiency.
5:38:39 ~
1/16/2006 2:54:32 PM ~ Simpson - Have a copy of the TANF breakdown?
5:38:54 ~
1/16/2006 2:54:47 PM ~ McDaniel - p. 37 - Req for 1 mil dollars - part used to
work w/ children in communities so they won't become a part of our system. Big Brothers, Big Sisters, Youth
Alternativies, Boys & Girls Club, etc.
5:41:17 ~
1/16/2006 2:57:10 PM ~ Job - I know that they have the SIG grants and they are
funding a lot of after school program -
are you making sure that you are filling gaps and not duplicating
efforts.
5:42:54 ~
1/16/2006 2:58:47 PM ~ McDaniel - Yes, we are striving to do that?
5:43:12 ~
1/16/2006 2:59:05 PM ~ Meuli - You already have the RFP's ?
5:43:45 ~
1/16/2006 2:59:39 PM ~ McDaniel - yes
5:44:02 ~
1/16/2006 2:59:55 PM ~ Simpson - Help me understand why we have so many sources
into the court-ordered placements?
5:44:50 ~
1/16/2006 3:00:44 PM ~ McDaniel - These are decisions in US congress about how
to fund families and children. All of
them have their rules and reg to go with their funds. p. 38 - contractural services-
This committee has had discussion about aftercare for these children
that have had services. Want to use
368 K $$ to get the community ready for the children to go back to a community
for after care.
5:50:08 ~
1/16/2006 3:06:02 PM ~ Warren - Seems like small amount of money , 4 distrricts
5:50:44 ~
1/16/2006 3:06:37 PM ~ McDaniel - What asked for is for coord. in each of 4
districts to coord aftercare for these children. Not to create new
services. People who are working in
the system are over-taxed and we need some to coord these services.
5:53:48 ~
1/16/2006 3:09:41 PM ~ Anderson - Take for minute and be sure that we are doing
what we need to do.
5:55:04 ~
1/16/2006 3:10:57 PM ~ McDaniel - across all agencies - the agencies have spent
about 90 mil $$$ I think we need to do some other things - need to level out funding for COPS- then
fund coord. for after care services.
Should be enough. Would like to
try to manage these cases on 50 mil dollars.
6:01:02 ~
1/16/2006 3:16:56 PM ~ Simpson- What do you think about the monies they have
projected?
6:01:49 ~
1/16/2006 3:17:43 PM ~ McDaniel - I think that there will be some that $125
will be charged, but I don't know how those will come in.
6:02:45 ~
1/16/2006 3:18:38 PM ~ Hines- Do you know how many you have?
6:03:51 ~
1/16/2006 3:19:44 PM ~ Yaksic - It is difficult to say. This is our best estimate. Diff. youths are in for diff. # of days and
each is in a diff. level of service.
6:05:42 ~
1/16/2006 3:21:36 PM ~ Hines - Do you have any idea how many you have at which
ever facility?
6:06:14 ~
1/16/2006 3:22:07 PM ~ McDaniel - Yes, we do and that is what we try to use as
a projection.
6:06:53 ~
1/16/2006 3:22:46 PM ~ Simpson - In working w/# of beds how do you knot what
you need?
6:07:43 ~
1/16/2006 3:23:36 PM ~ McDaniel - we are using the #'s that we tried to
project.
6:08:11 ~
1/16/2006 3:24:04 PM ~ Simpson - for residential treatment centers
6:09:22 ~
1/16/2006 3:25:15 PM ~ McDaniel - We front end load that rate so that kids can
get more service early on.
6:10:06 ~
1/16/2006 3:25:59 PM ~ Simspson -
6:10:48 ~
1/16/2006 3:26:41 PM ~ McDaniel -hard to predict #'s With all of the things going on I hope this will be an adequate amt.
of.
6:13:40 ~
1/16/2006 3:29:33 PM ~ Jorgensen - There are a lot of programs and I haven't
figured them out yet. Do you figure
them as a certain amount times the # of children?
6:15:03 ~
1/16/2006 3:30:56 PM ~ McDaniel- Yes.
6:15:20 ~
1/16/2006 3:31:14 PM ~ Hines - In non-treatment gp homes, what age gp are they?
6:15:55 ~
1/16/2006 3:31:48 PM ~ Warren - Would you give us an overview of what each of
these programs involve?
6:16:40 ~
1/16/2006 3:32:33 PM ~ Simpson - Is the Challenge program voluntary?
6:17:15 ~
1/16/2006 3:33:08 PM ~ McDaniel - Yes, Juvenile p. 47 Barry Gilmore Boys'
School p. 48 1 security officer - scheduled 3 officers at night. it is
impossible for them to do internal and external security
6:19:57 ~
1/16/2006 3:35:50 PM ~ Philp - based upon national standards?
6:20:11 ~
1/16/2006 3:36:04 PM ~ Gilmore - no standards for security per se.
6:20:27 ~
1/16/2006 3:36:21 PM ~ Meuli - how many individuals have run away.
6:20:54 ~
1/16/2006 3:36:47 PM ~ Gilmore - none in the past year.
6:21:04 ~
1/16/2006 3:36:57 PM ~ Meuli - potential?
6:21:18 ~
1/16/2006 3:37:11 PM ~ Gilmore - yes,
6:21:30 ~
1/16/2006 3:37:23 PM ~ Meuli - specialist, what qualifications to fill?
6:21:44 ~
1/16/2006 3:37:38 PM ~ Gilmore - HS diploma + 1 yr. work experience, like to
hire more highly trained workers.
6:22:14 ~
1/16/2006 3:38:08 PM ~ Meuli training?
6:22:21 ~
1/16/2006 3:38:15 PM ~ Gilmore - yes, over 200 hrs. of training over 1st year.
6:22:40 ~
1/16/2006 3:38:33 PM ~ Nicholas - security?
6:23:03 ~
1/16/2006 3:38:56 PM ~ Gilmore - Boys' School is a nice facility, no fences,
gates, lawns well cared for. It would
be good to have a perimeter fence, not sure.
6:23:57 ~
1/16/2006 3:39:50 PM ~ Nicholas - need for additional staff due to no fence?
6:24:23 ~
1/16/2006 3:40:17 PM ~ Gilmore - need exists even w/o perimeter fence.
6:24:38 ~
1/16/2006 3:40:32 PM ~ Gilmore - 2 dorms - high use of substance
6:25:25 ~
1/16/2006 3:41:19 PM ~ McDaniel - p. 50 and 51 request for riding lawn mowers
6:26:24 ~
1/16/2006 3:42:17 PM ~ Gilmore - 1994 mowers w/2000 hrs. use p.52 holiday pay, pd. time + 1/2 for
holidays.
6:28:02 ~
1/16/2006 3:43:55 PM ~ McDaniel had to manage this money thru vacancies.
6:28:16 ~
1/16/2006 3:44:09 PM ~ Job - last year concerned that Girls and Boys Schools
are not funded educationally to the same degree as public schools.
6:29:23 ~
1/16/2006 3:45:16 PM ~ McDaniel have met with Supt. McBride, current way must
meet standards. Are accredited,
students are leaving with higher skills than when entered. Pretty good system, doesn't need fixing.
6:30:51 ~
1/16/2006 3:46:44 PM ~ Job - follow up students when they return to home
schools. Teacher salaries?
6:31:13 ~
1/16/2006 3:47:06 PM ~ Gilmore - not a formal tracking mechanism for a long time. Last year instituted follow up for a few
months. Teachers' salaries are a
challenge. Clark Fairbanks, Supt. of
Girls' School
6:32:42 ~
1/16/2006 3:48:36 PM ~ Fairbanks - educational system achieves tremendous
success. Collaboration with local schools
on after care. Formal staff person to
monitor for a long term, we do not have.
Teachers' salaries are a challenge as well as for all of our staff.
6:34:09 ~
1/16/2006 3:50:03 PM ~ Job - audit, alternative funding, did they use average
providers? If they did, Girls
School would get $.5m more and Boys'
School = $2.5m more.
6:35:21 ~
1/16/2006 3:51:14 PM ~ McDaniel - appreciate Sen. Job's interest. If committee has time, it would merit a
study in the interim. We want to
provide quality education.
6:36:15 ~
1/16/2006 3:52:08 PM ~ Anderson - after care then put into home place and don't
see them until another incident. Need
to check periodically. Esp. drug
parents. Maintain standards.
6:37:15 ~
1/16/2006 3:53:08 PM ~ Hines - next EORG on p. 75. - take a 10 minute break.
6:38:17 ~
1/16/2006 3:54:11 PM ~ Meuli - substance abuse so many agencies involved in
that. Would like some assurance that
they are coordinated.
6:38:58 ~
1/16/2006 3:54:51 PM ~ McDaniel, we do that on a couple of levels. We have a sponsorship team meeting to
discuss and do certifications. Quality
assurance and awarding drug court grants.
6:39:50 ~
1/16/2006 3:55:43 PM ~ Nicholas - tally of what is left of HB 0059
appropriation?
6:40:32 ~
1/16/2006 3:56:25 PM ~ McDaniel - will provide info.
6:40:51 ~
1/16/2006 3:56:44 PM ~ Nicholas $40m, how much re-appropriated ea. yr.
6:41:08 ~
1/16/2006 3:57:01 PM ~ McDaniel - DOH got bulk of money for drug courts, etc.
DFS got some for expansion of - $ was divided across 3 agencies.
6:42:31 ~
1/16/2006 3:58:25 PM ~ Hines - 10 min. break
6:42:40 ~
1/16/2006 3:58:32 PM ~ Pause
6:42:40 ~
1/16/2006 4:09:11 PM ~ Resume
6:42:52 ~
1/16/2006 4:09:23 PM ~
6:43:08 ~
1/16/2006 4:09:39 PM ~ McDaniel see charts on p. 76, 11,500 familes living
below poverty level,
6:44:28 ~
1/16/2006 4:10:59 PM ~ Jorgensen - do me a number of 53% of certain families
below poverty level.
6:45:00 ~
1/16/2006 4:11:31 PM ~ McDaniel - will get info
6:45:10 ~
1/16/2006 4:11:41 PM ~ McDaniel p.77, to prosecute fraud cases. Recollect overpayment or wrong pmts. of
benefits. Resources usually come from
fees into the agency. No longer
adequate - fraud cases only about 1/2 of restitution orders got pd. Requesting
that these be pd by GF, then fees flow back into the General Fund.
6:47:59 ~
1/16/2006 4:14:30 PM ~ Meuli - request restitution info. You usually see about 5-10 cases per year?
6:48:33 ~
1/16/2006 4:15:04 PM ~ McDaniel 10 is a high number some years, but 4-6 av.
will get info.
6:49:20 ~
1/16/2006 4:15:51 PM ~ Meuli - coordinated within the AG's office>
6:49:45 ~
1/16/2006 4:16:16 PM ~ McDaniel - yes
p. 79 self-sufficiency skills need to be developed. Continued funding for Handouts 9-10 Our Families, Our Future
exciting program. Work with AY Contractors & other groups. Single moms with GED's gained while in
program more than doubled in income. Objective analysis requested. Hank Gardner
did a study. It makes sense to target a
population that needs help and shows success. Request $1m to improve job skills.
6:55:40 ~
1/16/2006 4:22:11 PM ~ Anderson - "Tweeners" high enough to get out
of welfare, but not high enough.
6:57:06 ~
1/16/2006 4:23:37 PM ~ McDaniel - at or below 85% of poverty level, single
parents, working at minimum wage, have had multiple jobs. This program gives job skills in jobs that
do pay minimum wage.
6:58:26 ~
1/16/2006 4:24:57 PM ~ Petersen - Workforce Services and Dept. of Employment -
any coordiantion?
6:58:54 ~
1/16/2006 4:25:25 PM ~ McDaniel - multi agency involvement
6:59:19 ~ 1/16/2006
4:25:50 PM ~ Case - appreciate this effort, other obstacles to employability,
dental work, prosthetic device, otheres?
How help?
6:59:58 ~
1/16/2006 4:26:29 PM ~ McDaniel - comprehensive enought to ensure hireability.
7:00:22 ~
1/16/2006 4:26:53 PM ~ Case - dental work?
7:00:30 ~
1/16/2006 4:27:02 PM ~ McDaniel - might be.
In Jackson group of women who needed substance abuse but couldn't
afford. Not cookie cutter,
individualized approach to address obstacles of hiring.
7:01:35 ~
1/16/2006 4:28:06 PM ~ Anderson - railroad and mines are $50-60,000 jobs with
benefits are crying for employees.
Can't do because they need 24 hr. child care.
7:02:33 ~
1/16/2006 4:29:04 PM ~ McDaniel - is in upcoming EORG
7:02:49 ~
1/16/2006 4:29:21 PM ~ Berger - funding child care?
7:03:09 ~
1/16/2006 4:29:40 PM ~ Philp - go back to previous, other settlements in
collecting & how much?
7:04:05 ~
1/16/2006 4:30:36 PM ~ McDaniel - these numbers are from collections
7:04:21 ~
1/16/2006 4:30:52 PM ~ McDaniel - yes, 2004 $339,000 and $270,000 in 2005 in
collections.
7:05:14 ~
1/16/2006 4:31:45 PM ~ Philp
7:05:27 ~
1/16/2006 4:31:58 PM ~ Yaksik - overpayment recovery in fraud, by people who
make honest errors, then fraudulantly lie.
Recover overpayments and prosecute fraud. County DA will prosecute.
Long process and lots of work for a low return. Good job with overpayment side, but
prosecution is lacking. Would like to
stop this and go after fraud.
7:08:22 ~
1/16/2006 4:34:53 PM ~ McDaniel p. 80 irresponsible men who father children and
do not take care of them. Absent
fathers in home is the role the child sees.
Progam "Father Factor" started in Head Start is a movement, he
is a pied piper, single father connecting with other single father. Now they meet regularly, Gov. and
Legislators met with single fathers for a BBQ, and talking how their lives have
been improved. Find other
"Damians" throughout state.
Small request of $96,000 for 2 yr. programs to hire the pied piper to go
into other communities to create this movement. Watching men with children is
great! Handout F.
7:13:21 ~
1/16/2006 4:39:52 PM ~ McDaniel, 6016 p. 86 new computer request IRIS approved
and reviewed by CIO. p. 88 Process applications for benefits. In 1996 there was a peak, welcome reform,
decline sicne '96. WY received national
awards by reducing welfare loads twice, WY had trouble balancing budgets. Up to 2000 16 positions were reclassified, Since 2000 there has been an increase on
case loads, like how to boil a frog story, now case loads are 460+ cases per
case worker. 45% increase per
load. Staff did time analysis. It shows 11 1/2 case workers short. Accuracy is measured, and sanctions can be
exacted Asking for 9 positions and want to remodel system. Request AWECs in 2 yrs. if not want to go
FTE.
7:20:20 ~
1/16/2006 4:46:51 PM ~ Simpson handout?
7:20:36 ~
1/16/2006 4:47:08 PM ~ McDaniel - p. 6 of Budget Book. What happened to those families who went off
Welfare roles in late 90's? They are
working, but they still qualify for food stamps, medicaid subsidy, etc. due to
low wages.
7:22:01 ~
1/16/2006 4:48:33 PM ~ Nicholas - Gov. position? Entire DFS staff?
7:22:26 ~
1/16/2006 4:48:58 PM ~ McDaniel Gov. denial was due to overall staffing in
dept. p. 89 IRIS software p. 90 Gov.
& CIO approved p. 90-91 study living in post welfare world. Congress did away, but we still deliver
services by eligibility, e.g. given of $6.15/hr. Boss told her she could not leave work to go to DFS to apply for
benefits. Need to find way to deliver
ways with alternative locations, internet, etc. to deliver services. Significantly reduce work load of workers
and pressure. Want to get $127K to help
develop model without additional space needs and staff. Handout G
7:28:31 ~
1/16/2006 4:55:02 PM ~ Meuli - who anticipate to do study?
7:28:59 ~
1/16/2006 4:55:30 PM ~ McDaniel - not yet contacted, anticipate multiple
applicants in RFP. Went to MO to look
at delivery systems in rural areas.
Vendors are out there.
7:29:58 ~
1/16/2006 4:56:29 PM ~ Meuli - require a match?
7:30:09 ~
1/16/2006 4:56:40 PM ~ McDaniel - if state appropriates, the feds will
match. No requirement to do.
7:30:46 ~
1/16/2006 4:57:17 PM ~ McDaniel - $1.9m to renovate POSSE System requested 2
yrs. ago. Sufficient? We re-evaluated
and worked with CIO, need another $1.4 m. If approved, we will work on $1.4
existing appropriation from this biennium.
7:33:09 ~
1/16/2006 4:59:40 PM ~ Hines - still available?
7:33:16 ~
1/16/2006 4:59:47 PM ~ McDaniel -yes Child Support Enforcement $690,144 reqiest
7:34:22 ~
1/16/2006 5:00:53 PM ~ Job - did they justify the $1.4m additional appropriation?
7:35:14 ~
1/16/2006 5:01:45 PM ~ McDaniel - yes, and Gov. agreed.
7:35:31 ~
1/16/2006 5:02:02 PM ~ Hines Brenda Little
Child Support director. We
contracted Joint Powers Board in Dist. #4, same 5, 6. #7 Natrona County works
for County Commissioners.
7:37:23 ~
1/16/2006 5:03:54 PM ~ Hines - do commissioners hire to represent them?
7:37:36 ~
1/16/2006 5:04:07 PM ~ Nicholas - rationale collections in 4 districts?
7:37:58 ~
1/16/2006 5:04:29 PM ~ McDaniel - distribute map of public districts. 1995 decision.
7:38:36 ~
1/16/2006 5:05:07 PM ~ Nicholas - cost of public entity vs. private contract
districts?
7:38:57 ~
1/16/2006 5:05:28 PM ~ McDaniel - compare very well.
7:39:11 ~
1/16/2006 5:05:42 PM ~ Nicholas - budget?
7:39:19 ~
1/16/2006 5:05:50 PM ~ McDaniel - in same EORG. Will be RFP'd for renewal after July.
7:39:46 ~
1/16/2006 5:06:17 PM ~ Hines - in 900 budget?
7:39:56 ~
1/16/2006 5:06:27 PM ~ McDaniel - just for Public districts, $640K
7:40:33 ~
1/16/2006 5:07:04 PM ~ Hines - can't find it.
7:40:40 ~
1/16/2006 5:07:11 PM ~ McDaniel - p. 104
7:41:23 ~
1/16/2006 5:07:54 PM ~ Nicholas - one process more efficient, effective?
7:41:50 ~
1/16/2006 5:08:21 PM ~ Brenda Little - Public entities and private entities are
pretty much similar, differences are based upon populations.
7:42:38 ~
1/16/2006 5:09:09 PM ~ Berger - monitoring both services.
7:42:51 ~
1/16/2006 5:09:22 PM ~ Little - monitor private contracts based upon
performance, we are measured by fed. govt. paternity establishment also. Incentive monies, sanction. In public contracts, not incentive or
sanctions in their contracts.
7:44:34 ~
1/16/2006 5:11:05 PM ~ McDaniel - some discussions of standardizing.
7:44:52 ~
1/16/2006 5:11:23 PM ~ Simpson - are directors attorneys?
7:45:04 ~
1/16/2006 5:11:35 PM ~ Brenda Little - are in some, but not all. Dist. 7 is, Dist 4 director is an attorney,
#5&6 are not attornyes but do have an attorney in office who works with
director. Ask for salary information of offices?
7:46:20 ~
1/16/2006 5:12:51 PM ~ Little - will provide.
7:46:27 ~
1/16/2006 5:12:58 PM ~ Berger - anticipate increase in pay?
7:46:57 ~
1/16/2006 5:13:28 PM ~ Little expecting same level on bid, lots of competition
on contracts 2 $ .115 per dollar.
7:47:55 ~
1/16/2006 5:14:26 PM ~ McDaniel - establish paternity WY at 87% may result in
sanctions of $185,000. DFS is measured
and sanctions, but cannot meet sanctions without partnerships with others. Asking for $98,000 to form linkages. All 50 states are confronted with. WY was such a high level, now at penatly
zone. Handout H is one-time contract.
7:50:19 ~
1/16/2006 5:16:50 PM ~ Meuli - access to birth certificates, absence of father
on certificates?
7:51:03 ~
1/16/2006 5:17:34 PM ~ Little - unwed parents declare paternity without genetic
tests, not all signed, only about 1/2.
Confidentiality issue. Not DFS
can force naming if not named. Try to
get # for you.
7:52:18 ~
1/16/2006 5:18:49 PM ~ Meuli - lab testing, pay for test, some disputes of dads
who later will not pay child support.
7:53:08 ~
1/16/2006 5:19:39 PM ~ Little - unwed births only - if not recinded within 60
days of signing paternity. Court can
order genetic test, we pay upfront, if he is found to be the father, he has to repay. Also, if dad doesn't show up in court, the court decrees his
paternity w/o test.
7:55:20 ~
1/16/2006 5:21:52 PM ~ McDaniel - lots of people involved in establishing paternity. p. 107
p. 111 Medicaid requires COLA if only income is from SS. Poorest of poor, fixed income, under fed.
law, we must provide with COLA annually.
Varies, but asking for $ .48 was
embarrassing. Ask for $14.56 increase
per recipient. With money WY has, it is
an embarrassment. Will buy 6-7 gal. of
gas or a few groceries. Does not bind future budgets, could go back to minimum.
p. 116 Early Childhood Education free up TANF dollars Gov. Geringer asked DFS to cut budget in lean years, when quit funding under GF, we lost fed.
match. TANF funds $7,659,335 pd. Asking
for reversing from TANF funds. Would
get $4,153,657
8:03:24 ~
1/16/2006 5:29:55 PM ~ Nicholas ?
8:03:46 ~
1/16/2006 5:30:17 PM ~ McDaniel - asked Sue Bacon to join me.
8:04:04 ~
1/16/2006 5:30:35 PM ~ McDaniel Children & Families Initiative - worked
long hours, implement Senator Peck article, "Work from both ends"
article distributed. Parents can only
afford so much. do want to provide best.
Average child care is over $6,000 per year, and up to $9K for quality
care. Most cannot afford. Have a high quality experience. Low income families with parents who are stressed
in low paying jobs. Vocabulary is very
limited vs. high quality day care with 9,000 words in vocabulary. Of all money states spend to lure economic
development, quality early childhood education is most effective. Rate on 5 *s. Providers want to do better, and parents can see how provider
rates. Provides scholarships to provide quality. Av. child care worker makes $7/hr. Difficult to find care for infants. Involve parents.
8:12:53 ~
1/16/2006 5:39:24 PM ~ McDaniel - Sue Bacon Handout #12 Asking for "pocket
change."
8:13:39 ~
1/16/2006 5:40:10 PM ~ Bacon anticipate
costs Componant #2, largest request, lions share, high quality care
8:15:25 ~
1/16/2006 5:41:56 PM ~ Berger - grant basis?
8:15:33 ~
1/16/2006 5:42:04 PM ~ Bacon - Labor, Health & Social Services discussed,
can work out a formula to compensate.
8:16:33 ~
1/16/2006 5:43:05 PM ~ Berger - Objectivity?
8:16:50 ~
1/16/2006 5:43:21 PM ~ Bacon - statewide collaboration. Keys were that it must be objective, and
quality.
8:18:06 ~
1/16/2006 5:44:37 PM ~ Jorgensen - how means test this?
8:18:26 ~
1/16/2006 5:44:57 PM ~ Bacon - funds to serve at risk children, laundry list,
income level, special needs, parent(s) in home.Job
8:20:20 ~
1/16/2006 5:46:51 PM ~ McDaniel - attorneys - donations, state credit,
purchasing quality services must be thru contract.
8:21:20 ~
1/16/2006 5:47:51 PM ~ Nicholas - strong feelings ought to be started in a bill
and money tied to bill. Goes thru 3
readings, If JAC kills it, it doesn't get 3 readings. If not created new program, could you tie fund swap to
another. Where would you have put
dollars if not in this program.
8:23:40 ~
1/16/2006 5:50:11 PM ~ McDaniels - when budget submitted, we received
conflicting guidance from legislators.
We put into Gov. Budget, you may put into bill. Not really same program. Budget does recommend freed up TANF $. $14m+
is separate and is currently in both places.
8:25:30 ~
1/16/2006 5:52:01 PM ~ Nicholas - historical funding, if we adopt #1, do we
also specify program we will use with TANF $ or will you create new programs
with this?
8:26:46 ~
1/16/2006 5:53:17 PM ~ McDaniel - we gave you a formula and suggested how to
spend part of it. New congressional
TANF guidelines. Fearful we may have
penalties. New recordkeeping
requirements that will cost $. Congress
thinks WY can afford it.
8:28:18 ~
1/16/2006 5:54:49 PM ~ Nicholas - apologize, none of freed up dollars is to go
to Priority 31.
8:28:46 ~
1/16/2006 5:55:17 PM ~ McDaniel, priority bothers me. It is not 31st priority.
8:29:05 ~
1/16/2006 5:55:36 PM ~ Nicholas requested table of where money will go from
TANF
8:29:53 ~ 1/16/2006
5:56:24 PM ~ NcDaniel will provide.
Under the formula that the legis. provided will go to the block grant
for providing the services.
8:31:02 ~
1/16/2006 5:57:33 PM ~ Nicholas - About 3 mil $$ is left.
8:31:19 ~
1/16/2006 5:57:50 PM ~ McDaniel - I have been very careful not to spend the
extra services. We will probably have
to use some of that extra for a cushion to meet the new requirements of the
TANF.
8:33:04 ~
1/16/2006 5:59:35 PM ~ Nicholas - Are there other programs that you could apply
that to?
8:33:28 ~
1/16/2006 6:00:00 PM ~ McDaniel - The TANF funds have to be spent very
specifically.
8:35:38 ~
1/16/2006 6:02:09 PM ~ Beger - The four elements of the TANF funds, please.
8:36:23 ~
1/16/2006 6:02:54 PM ~ Warren - As we look at funding streams that state
provides, is there a way to get overall picture to show how this fits in w/
current system so that we are not having overkill.
8:37:54 ~
1/16/2006 6:04:25 PM ~ Mc- Gap that we see that are in child care centers -
goal is to provide education that these centers would provide.
8:38:37 ~
1/16/2006 6:05:08 PM ~ Meuli - Series that need to ask about this program. p. 115 - Marked dec. of low income familes
that use licensed day care. Do you keep
record of children that go to unlicensed day care?
8:39:47 ~
1/16/2006 6:06:18 PM ~ Bacon - Yes, we have kept records and the low income
families are working at hours when licensed day care are not operating.
8:40:51 ~
1/16/2006 6:07:22 PM ~ Meuli - Who is going to do the determination of this?
8:41:27 ~
1/16/2006 6:07:58 PM ~ Mc - Other agencies will help set up those criteria.
8:42:27 ~
1/16/2006 6:08:58 PM ~ Bacon - They are rated as community specialist.
8:43:01 ~
1/16/2006 6:09:32 PM ~ Meuli - They don't have to have any experience.
8:43:19 ~
1/16/2006 6:09:50 PM ~ Bacon - You sometimes have to have balanced people.
8:43:42 ~
1/16/2006 6:10:13 PM ~ Meuli - The people in the day care center have to have
qualifications.
8:44:35 ~
1/16/2006 6:11:06 PM ~ Bacon - There is a career ladder in that career field.
8:45:41 ~
1/16/2006 6:12:12 PM ~ Meuli - How does this fit in w/ the home nurse program?
8:46:55 ~
1/16/2006 6:13:26 PM ~ Bacon - Licensing has qualities that one has to meet.
8:47:37 ~
1/16/2006 6:14:08 PM ~ Meuli - How were you able to get channel 5 to do all
public service announcements?
8:48:04 ~
1/16/2006 6:14:35 PM ~ McDaniel - We bought some and the TV/radio stations
matched 2 for every one that we bought.
This section is tied to the bill and we'll wait for the legislature to
make that call.
8:50:29 ~
1/16/2006 6:17:00 PM ~ Jeff - LIEAP program administrator There is some historical support for this
program -
8:53:51 ~
1/16/2006 6:20:23 PM ~ Job- I understand that there are some at a certain point
on the poverty scale where some people won't receive enough to make it worth
their time to apply.
8:56:09 ~
1/16/2006 6:22:40 PM ~ Jeff - There are some.
We have already received as many applications as we received all of last
year.
8:57:50 ~
1/16/2006 6:24:21 PM ~ Berger- Are meeting the goal that has been set?
8:58:06 ~
1/16/2006 6:24:37 PM ~ Jeff- We have seen increase applications the last 2
years. Some families can participate in
budget billing
8:59:25 ~
1/16/2006 6:25:56 PM ~ McDaniel - completes our exception budget except for the
capital construction budget.
9:00:02 ~
1/16/2006 6:26:33 PM ~ Gilmore - Boys' School Administrator Need to replace systems. Replacement of residency of boys'
school. The old one has flooded
consistently and it has become structurally unsound.
9:02:54 ~
1/16/2006 6:29:25 PM ~ McDaniel - Cathcart has hung around all afternoon to
talk to you about a major maintenance problem at the Girl's school.
9:04:30 ~
1/16/2006 6:31:01 PM ~ Cathcart - Person that made assessment of the buildings
is no longer on our staff. Then the
papers got filed in the drawer. We have
since sent people up to look at them and we think that there are some real
problems there. We think that you may
not want to put any major maintenance up there. We'll just put bandaids until next year.
9:09:47 ~
1/16/2006 6:36:16 PM ~ Stop Recording