File name: JAC Budget Hearings FY 13-14_20120109_090145.dcr Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\HAppropriations\Desktop\Recordings 0 ~ 1/9/2012 9:02:13 AM ~ 5 ~ 1/9/2012 9:09:24 AM ~ Department of Agriculture Agency Hearing 25 ~ 1/9/2012 9:19:22 AM ~ Department of Agriculture 58 ~ 1/9/2012 9:19:55 AM ~ Chairman BergerL Welcome. Dept of Agriculture 1:15 ~ 1/9/2012 9:20:12 AM ~ Mr. Fearneyhough, Director of Dept of Agriculture opening remarks, introductions six divisions, explanation of divisions, Wyoming Beef Council is seperate but works budgets with Dept of Ag Doug Miyamoto, Deputy Director, from Natural Resources Conservation, Julie Cook, Administrative Manager Managers of Divisions Dean Finkenbinder, CHS, Hank Uhden, Technical Services, Mike Leath, Anaylytical Services, Chris Wichmann, Natural Resources James Goodrich, State Fair Ann Wittman, Wyoming Beef Council 4:29 ~ 1/9/2012 9:23:26 AM ~ Fearneyhough, Handout, pg 12, one exception request, reduction in budget if we go ahead with CIO request. Pg 13 - exception request IT upgrades, 139,00, printers for field staff 5:52 ~ 1/9/2012 9:24:49 AM ~ Von Flatern: pg 12? 6:03 ~ 1/9/2012 9:25:00 AM ~ Fearneyhough, pg 13 6:12 ~ 1/9/2012 9:25:09 AM ~ Von Flatern: are numbers moved over 6:22 ~ 1/9/2012 9:25:19 AM ~ Cook: pg 12 9/10 budget has extra 6:58 ~ 1/9/2012 9:25:55 AM ~ Berger: Brett, we will get corrections 7:23 ~ 1/9/2012 9:26:20 AM ~ Nicholas: Do not need corrections on narrative page, go by spreadsheet 7:38 ~ 1/9/2012 9:26:35 AM ~ Fearneyhough: pg 19, Brucellouis, no exc requests 8:01 ~ 1/9/2012 9:26:58 AM ~ Nicholas: pg 13 IT request 8:24 ~ 1/9/2012 9:27:21 AM ~ Fearneyhough: Is your question what we are looking at? it is to replace existing equipment, printer replacement for field staff, need small printer for when they are in a restaurant or other area... 9:21 ~ 1/9/2012 9:28:18 AM ~ Nicholas: replacement schedule Fearneyhough: 9:35 ~ 1/9/2012 9:28:32 AM ~ fFearneyhough: 3-4 years replacement schedule, usually 4 9:53 ~ 1/9/2012 9:28:50 AM ~ Cook: hihg end, high volumej are on 3 year, everyhting else is on a 4 year 10:08 ~ 1/9/2012 9:29:05 AM ~ Nicholas: Before markup, Brett talk to A&I, develop spreadsheet showing all exception requests in the 100, 200 series, for IT, some are on 3, 4 or 5 yr service. Have IT folks break out cost to put everyone on a 3,4,5 year..Give us all 100, 300, 900 series. can see the total dollars requested, IT broken into category to develop philosophy before markup. Bill, before markup want spreadsheet from A&I , by series, IT from CIO what would cost be for a 5,4,3 yr implementation. breakdown by laptop, printer, etc. We can then do a generic motion. 12:38 ~ 1/9/2012 9:31:35 AM ~ Mai: We have been working on that information. Funding on series has some issues, IT stuff, Brett and Flints shop has been working on that, can refine it 13:20 ~ 1/9/2012 9:32:17 AM ~ Nicholas: Different replacement cycles, Dept of AG, how do you develop it 13:35 ~ 1/9/2012 9:32:32 AM ~ Fearneyhough: We have developed those internally 13:45 ~ 1/9/2012 9:32:42 AM ~ CookL Internally with two staff who sit on committee with CIO staff, 14:07 ~ 1/9/2012 9:33:04 AM ~ Nicholas: Computers run better now. Are we on a developed schedule or one that shows failures that force replacement? 14:40 ~ 1/9/2012 9:33:37 AM ~ Cook: Request does not include requests for computer. we are on 4 yr replacement. High use printers last about 4 yrs and we have maintenance issues and maintenance agreements do not cover repairs 15:23 ~ 1/9/2012 9:34:20 AM ~ Nicholas: If state goes out to contractors, can extend maintenance agreements, replace printers that go dead but not all of them 15:55 ~ 1/9/2012 9:34:52 AM ~ Cook: State purchasing dept does the purchasing and negotiaiting, do not have a lot of information on that 16:18 ~ 1/9/2012 9:35:15 AM ~ Nicholas: I would like to bring in CIO to talk about equipment, extending warranties, state govt has some of finest stock of office equipment, implement stronger policies for longer life 16:59 ~ 1/9/2012 9:35:56 AM ~ Brett: Will followup with Flint Walters, he will be here Thursday, will work with LSO 17:25 ~ 1/9/2012 9:36:22 AM ~ Berger: WE will make a list and get to you 17:35 ~ 1/9/2012 9:36:32 AM ~ Von Flatern: Brucellosis Is that amount already spent? 18:17 ~ 1/9/2012 9:37:14 AM ~ Fearneyhough: ...where money goes 18:27 ~ 1/9/2012 9:37:24 AM ~ Fearneyhough: pg 21 no budget exception requests pg 23 Wildlife/Livestock Disease Research, pg 24, 250,000 requested; last yr funding request for non-brucellosis; this request is to continue research pg 27 spoke with gov's office and Senator Nicholas, Livestock Market Reporting Program. Federal Govt has had staff in Torrington, funding is being pulled, no longer staff there, livestock, barn markets are concerned. approached by industry, small amount of dollars to fund reporter in that office and in Riverton, about 30,000 to keep that marketing aspect going on. 21:18 ~ 1/9/2012 9:40:15 AM ~ fNicholas: annual or biennail 21:26 ~ 1/9/2012 9:40:23 AM ~ Feaneyhough: Biennial, costs have gone up, 1.25 or 1.35 per sale but split contract with the barns, half from state, half from barns 22:05 ~ 1/9/2012 9:41:02 AM ~ Nicholas: who is collecting that information? 22:14 ~ 1/9/2012 9:41:11 AM ~ Fearneyhough: This is the mechanism, reporting system has folks in local barn who collect information, then send to Greeley Colorado. Torrington live is one of the mkts the index is based on at the Chicago Mercantile exchange 23:01 ~ 1/9/2012 9:41:58 AM ~ Nicholas: Can livestock barns not send the information? 23:11 ~ 1/9/2012 9:42:08 AM ~ Fearneyhough: They can, question of correct information. State or Federal reporter makes sure all is aboard. 23:33 ~ 1/9/2012 9:42:30 AM ~ Berger: Why is Federal Govt eliminating funding if it is required by them? 23:48 ~ 1/9/2012 9:42:45 AM ~ Fearneyhough: I do not know. Chicago Mercantile is not federal entitiy. State of Wyoming, can see fat cattle or hay range conditions, helps them set rates 24:26 ~ 1/9/2012 9:43:23 AM ~ Meier: If C&E needs this information for their own benefit, approach them. Web based reporting program cheaper than 30,000, integrity of third party reporting, state employee reporting numbers, C&E aware that this is happening in other areas..they should look at it 25:38 ~ 1/9/2012 9:44:35 AM ~ Fearneyhough: Important to look at all source sand all players 25:51 ~ 1/9/2012 9:44:48 AM ~ Wallis: This possibility..would there not be the same issues with the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, need as an industry governmental participation to keep buyers, sellers or market having potential of corruption. Market paying for data it receives may not keep information accurate. 27:16 ~ 1/9/2012 9:46:13 AM ~ Fearneyhough: Biggest concern of our agency is integrity and transparency of the market. Point well taken, Asking someone to pay can give appearance of shifting data, integrity is vital 27:47 ~ 1/9/2012 9:46:44 AM ~ Nicholas: Assign the task to your agency, one employee undertake this task 28:04 ~ 1/9/2012 9:47:01 AM ~ Fearneyhough: We do not have an employee that does market reporting, system has been through contracting, would take away an inspector, 93 sales, not counting video, must have someone on site and checking the videos, would have to have Riverton included which is half that number, sales out of buffalo and glenrock. 29:10 ~ 1/9/2012 9:48:07 AM ~ Nicholas: Go back, tell folks to collect data an demail it in. Create statute to make it a crime if it is wrong data, altenratives with existing staff 29:43 ~ 1/9/2012 9:48:40 AM ~ Fearneyhough: can do analyzing on that scenerio 29:57 ~ 1/9/2012 9:48:54 AM ~ Nicholas: sales barn collect data, will assemble it and re issue it, have confidenc in ag community, without hiring more 30:23 ~ 1/9/2012 9:49:20 AM ~ Wallis: Jursidiction between yourself and the Livestock Board, may be some crossover or redundancy, roles of each. 31:00 ~ 1/9/2012 9:49:57 AM ~ Fearneyhough, type of issues" 31:08 ~ 1/9/2012 9:50:05 AM ~ Wallis: anything dealing with livestock 31:16 ~ 1/9/2012 9:50:13 AM ~ Fearneyhough: Livestock Board has jurisdiction on brand issues, segments with health issues, transport and marketing Specific issue: authority is not the right word, have worked with livestock barns in the past, do not know if I have regulatory authority,, level of authority is not where I can stop the barn We do have crossover, animal disease, sit on boards, They have health officers who have more authority but we participate. We make sure that the scales are accurate. 34:29 ~ 1/9/2012 9:53:26 AM ~ Wallis We will be talking about a new computer system. This discussion looks like a logical addition to their system 35:12 ~ 1/9/2012 9:54:09 AM ~ Nicholas We are looking who could logically take over this function.. We need to get everone together and take a look at this. 36:01 ~ 1/9/2012 9:54:58 AM ~ Berger Need to talk about the timelness of this data. 36:29 ~ 1/9/2012 9:55:26 AM ~ Ferneyhough Western Nebraska also looks at that report Page 29 Organid Handler Program Gov. recomments Page 32 Organic Producers Gov. recommends 38:19 ~ 1/9/2012 9:57:16 AM ~ Von Flatern Explanation between the two 38:37 ~ 1/9/2012 9:57:34 AM ~ Ferrneyhough Explains the difference One is producer, one is handler 39:16 ~ 1/9/2012 9:58:13 AM ~ Nicholas I take these are federal grants 39:33 ~ 1/9/2012 9:58:30 AM ~ Fearneyhough, These are federal grants 39:49 ~ 1/9/2012 9:58:46 AM ~ Nicholas At the time we create a new division we are one closer to saying that when the fed dollars go away, the state picks up the tab. 40:42 ~ 1/9/2012 9:59:39 AM ~ Jones We incorported these grant dollars and elimnated other funds 41:21 ~ 1/9/2012 10:00:18 AM ~ Nicholas Why would you propose 41:46 ~ 1/9/2012 10:00:43 AM ~ Cook Many conversations were held wanted more transparancy in our budget. We worked with the budget office. This is a program that would go away if the funding dried up. 43:15 ~ 1/9/2012 10:02:12 AM ~ Nicholas Once you get a sheet of paper in the buget it has it's own life once we are all gone in three years. 44:00 ~ 1/9/2012 10:02:57 AM ~ Von Flatern B11 aren't they easier to slid throught 44:32 ~ 1/9/2012 10:03:29 AM ~ Jones Are you asking is it easier to slid a B11 through? 45:16 ~ 1/9/2012 10:04:13 AM ~ Nicholas You can argure two sides of this coin. You can say that a B11 does not make it part of the budget. Four or 5 years of B11's are imiportant enough, so be it. Transparency, how many look at this budget compared to B11's. I'm not sure this is a good policy. Look at the Dept. of Ed. They have a lot of B11's and have had for years 48:13 ~ 1/9/2012 10:07:10 AM ~ Meir Statement earlier If the federal funds were not available, the state would not fund it. 48:54 ~ 1/9/2012 10:07:51 AM ~ 48:57 ~ 1/9/2012 10:07:54 AM ~ Meier Footnote in the budget that as long as the feds fund the program, it's a go. 50:00 ~ 1/9/2012 10:08:57 AM ~ Berger 50:09 ~ 1/9/2012 10:09:06 AM ~ Nicholas You can B11 funds that don't exist. Do you want create in the budget the execytive branch cannot create an expense organization. That way each gov. would not have to make a decision weather to accept B11 fundss 52:08 ~ 1/9/2012 10:11:05 AM ~ Steward Will this be in the budget in the future. 52:28 ~ 1/9/2012 10:11:25 AM ~ Jones We there are a number of B11 programs 52:52 ~ 1/9/2012 10:11:49 AM ~ Edmonds Does this have to go through the Dept. of Ag. 53:20 ~ 1/9/2012 10:12:17 AM ~ Cook Can only be applied for only throught THe handler grant........ We spent about $12,000. 54:29 ~ 1/9/2012 10:13:26 AM ~ Nicholas Who offically gets the grants 54:43 ~ 1/9/2012 10:13:40 AM ~ Cook The handler get the money direct. 55:09 ~ 1/9/2012 10:14:06 AM ~ Nicholas Do you have an example. 55:26 ~ 1/9/2012 10:14:23 AM ~ Cook Weed & Pest 55:49 ~ 1/9/2012 10:14:46 AM ~ FearneygoughPage 36 Page 41Tech Servicces Page 43 Building needs need to fill new building. Move in date is Feb. 13. We would love to have those funds as soon as budget is signed 57:35 ~ 1/9/2012 10:16:32 AM ~ Von Fltern What about the old equipment. 57:55 ~ 1/9/2012 10:16:52 AM ~ Jason Some will be moved, some are too delicate 58:16 ~ 1/9/2012 10:17:13 AM ~ ???? Some equiptment is just too old and delicate too move. A lot of benches, cabinets are "homemade". 59:34 ~ 1/9/2012 10:18:31 AM ~ Von Flatern So they are junk 59:45 ~ 1/9/2012 10:18:42 AM ~ Jason 59:57 ~ 1/9/2012 10:18:54 AM ~ Nicholas When we get to markup When the old facility is sold, there will be sale proceeds that we put money general fund 1:01:19 ~ 1/9/2012 10:20:16 AM ~ Mai If your talking about real property I would imagine buildings would be the same 1:02:05 ~ 1/9/2012 10:21:02 AM ~ Nicholas Licquor Commission If the old building is sold, it goes to the general account. We need to find out what happens to those monies 1:03:07 ~ 1/9/2012 10:22:04 AM ~ Mai It seems like any time you create money from sales, it goes to generals fund. 1:03:47 ~ 1/9/2012 10:22:44 AM ~ Nicholas We took it out of our revenure side. 1:04:15 ~ 1/9/2012 10:23:12 AM ~ 1:04:16 ~ 1/9/2012 10:23:13 AM ~ Mai We had similiar langurage to that before 1:04:32 ~ 1/9/2012 10:23:29 AM ~ Jason Next request - scale truck 18 years old test equipment is 30 years old 1:05:35 ~ 1/9/2012 10:24:32 AM ~ Von Flatern By dening 2 & 4 How often do you use they truck 1:06:15 ~ 1/9/2012 10:25:12 AM ~ Jason Several months year 1:06:31 ~ 1/9/2012 10:25:28 AM ~ UhdenIt would replace an 18 year old truck One of our units is dedicated towards our larger scales 1:08:14 ~ 1/9/2012 10:27:11 AM ~ Von Flatern Could you give us a sense of how often they are used. 1:08:50 ~ 1/9/2012 10:27:47 AM ~ Uhden 1:09:07 ~ 1/9/2012 10:28:04 AM ~ Wallis I understand that part of these changes are mandated by the feds. Can the state of Wyoming get around that 1:10:11 ~ 1/9/2012 10:29:08 AM ~ Uhden Original proposal 6 month rotation They did amend that schedule 1:11:42 ~ 1/9/2012 10:30:39 AM ~ Berger They denied it Page 46 the $60,000 for fuel 1:12:16 ~ 1/9/2012 10:31:13 AM ~ Jason Priority 11 We could take $60,000 out of our budget. What I'm reading in the papers, fuel will be going up. 1:13:29 ~ 1/9/2012 10:32:26 AM ~ Jason The next request B11 Forest Service Grant $300,000 grant Bring into budget process 1:14:17 ~ 1/9/2012 10:33:14 AM ~ Nicholas You are putting into section 300 Next time will go to 650 instead of 300. What is the other 350 faor? 1:15:20 ~ 1/9/2012 10:34:17 AM ~ Cook The orgiinal is going for bioligical 1:16:01 ~ 1/9/2012 10:34:58 AM ~ Cook Funding through grant goes to weed and pest control agencies 1:16:31 ~ 1/9/2012 10:35:28 AM ~ Nicholas Now we are adding it to Section 600, from now on, no one will know what they are for. They are now no longer a B11 item. It's hard to tell which ones are federally funded and which ones are not. 1:18:30 ~ 1/9/2012 10:37:27 AM ~ Cook We have been recieving these funds for six years. 1:19:00 ~ 1/9/2012 10:37:57 AM ~ Nicholas Why did you choose section 600 1:19:21 ~ 1/9/2012 10:38:18 AM ~ Cook This is the system we use We could do it a different way. 1:19:57 ~ 1/9/2012 10:38:54 AM ~ Nicholas We have some DOE programs, they have a federal funds category 1:20:34 ~ 1/9/2012 10:39:31 AM ~ Jones Dept. of Ed is a good axample 1:21:07 ~ 1/9/2012 10:40:04 AM ~ Nicholas Where you have brand new programs that are federally funded 1:21:47 ~ 1/9/2012 10:40:44 AM ~ Jason Page 49 Two exception requests Gov. denied 1:22:21 ~ 1/9/2012 10:41:18 AM ~ Von Flatern Reduction in 1970's 1:22:44 ~ 1/9/2012 10:41:41 AM ~ Leath We are trying to figure out how to 1:23:31 ~ 1/9/2012 10:42:28 AM ~ Jason Glassware washer Gov denied Page 54 Exception request Gov approved 50,000 1:24:32 ~ 1/9/2012 10:43:29 AM ~ Nicholas What kind of revenue 1:25:07 ~ 1/9/2012 10:44:04 AM ~ Galley (UW) Dept. of Rec. 1:25:25 ~ 1/9/2012 10:44:22 AM ~ Jason Page 57 Ground Water Page 59 Animal Damage Page 61 Rodent and preditor control 1:26:09 ~ 1/9/2012 10:45:06 AM ~ 1:27:14 ~ 1/9/2012 10:46:11 AM ~ Von Flatern Your just selling the...... Next page revenue of $33,381 1:27:50 ~ 1/9/2012 10:46:47 AM ~ Cook When we used to sell these devices ourselves, that is the amount we sold. 1:28:23 ~ 1/9/2012 10:47:20 AM ~ Cook If we do collect that money we 1:28:43 ~ 1/9/2012 10:47:40 AM ~ Jason Page 64 No exceptions Page 67 One exception We are requesting $500,000 Gov recomends $200,000. 1:29:52 ~ 1/9/2012 10:48:49 AM ~ Wallis Can you enlighten on how you came up with the $500,000 figure 1:30:25 ~ 1/9/2012 10:49:22 AM ~ Jason I'll try. We looked at the figures that the game & fish used and extrapulated to the figure of $200,000. The concern we really have is radio collarred wolves. 1:32:27 ~ 1/9/2012 10:51:24 AM ~ Steward That $200,000 would be given to the Fish & Wildlife 1:33:01 ~ 1/9/2012 10:51:58 AM ~ Jason In some instances - yes 1:33:17 ~ 1/9/2012 10:52:14 AM ~ Berger How long 1:33:26 ~ 1/9/2012 10:52:23 AM ~ Jason Will have a better answer after our meeting 1:34:07 ~ 1/9/2012 10:53:04 AM ~ Von Flatern $200,000 seems pretty large, could we be seeing this again next year 1:35:00 ~ 1/9/2012 10:53:57 AM ~ Jason It could be here next year. The intent would be just for wolves 1:35:48 ~ 1/9/2012 10:54:45 AM ~ Non Flatern You will have to write to pretty furles 1:36:17 ~ 1/9/2012 10:55:14 AM ~ Jason When we move forward on some of these other issues When we get wolves sitting on top of a rancher 1:37:18 ~ 1/9/2012 10:56:15 AM ~ Nicholas How do you know that the money wouln't be moved around 1:38:00 ~ 1/9/2012 10:56:57 AM ~ 1:38:19 ~ 1/9/2012 11:15:37 AM ~ Feaneyhough: licenses, pg 74 Pool and spa licenses, increase in licenses, 50,000 of revenue receiving pg 77 APHIS-Core program no budget exc. pg 80 Natural Resource and Budget Policy, exc request on page 81, Rangland Health Assessment program, 650,000; gov approval of only 100,000 1:40:30 ~ 1/9/2012 11:17:48 AM ~ Steward: milestones, how is program working 1:40:40 ~ 1/9/2012 11:17:57 AM ~ Feaneyhough: Chris Wichmann 1:40:47 ~ 1/9/2012 11:18:04 AM ~ Wichmasnn, rec 17 applications, approved 12, going well, building interest, ex of Teton county district, allotment not monitored for 20 yrs, added 20 more monitoring sites in cooperation with the forest service, 1:42:05 ~ 1/9/2012 11:19:23 AM ~ Steward: Other partners, can we leverage dollars from them? 1:42:17 ~ 1/9/2012 11:19:35 AM ~ Wichmann: yes, nature conservacy, most funding is in kind, grant funding, in kind matching funds received 1:42:43 ~ 1/9/2012 11:20:00 AM ~ Wallis: Is the nature conservacy..who else are our partners, who else is contributing in kind, not being driven by what some would see as adversys 1:43:24 ~ 1/9/2012 11:20:41 AM ~ Wichmann: nature conservancy, involved with monitoring, have list of partners, 1:43:50 ~ 1/9/2012 11:21:07 AM ~ Wallis: is it in packet, will find it. Is Granite Mtn grazing allotment on that list? 1:44:10 ~ 1/9/2012 11:21:27 AM ~ Wichmann: I do not believe so 1:44:18 ~ 1/9/2012 11:21:35 AM ~ Wallis: Wild horses , hearing from permitees that BLM is not complying with the dissent decree, agreement to 1933, ranchers take voluntary reductions, too many horses on management areas 1:45:04 ~ 1/9/2012 11:22:22 AM ~ Wichman: Several projects identify wild horses plus LIttle snake river district. None of the projects look specifically at wild horses 1:45:40 ~ 1/9/2012 11:22:57 AM ~ Wallis: Specific to this budget, had 200,000, started projects, now 100,000 one time, spread over 2 years. How much will that limit what you are doing? Equal access to justice, shaky and biased data, need this to counter that, my fear is that without enough funding to protect our land and field, we will suffer 1:47:04 ~ 1/9/2012 11:24:22 AM ~ Wichman: Our fear also that special interests are not going away..this will help. 1:47:22 ~ 1/9/2012 11:24:40 AM ~ Wallis Touch basis offline with me, sense of Gov's recommendation, acres, number of people, risk of not doing a good job. 1:47:56 ~ 1/9/2012 11:25:14 AM ~ Wichman: Grants 20,000 per grant, with reduction will fund 2 or 3 projects per year, drastic reduction 1:48:16 ~ 1/9/2012 11:25:34 AM ~ Fearneyhough: Pg 86 Emergency Insect, no exc. request 1:48:36 ~ 1/9/2012 11:25:53 AM ~ VonFlatern: How do 86 and 87 reconcile, explain 1 1/2 million and 2 1/2 million on governors 1:49:10 ~ 1/9/2012 11:26:28 AM ~ Cook: My error, we received additional appropriation, not reflected on chart on page 86. 1:49:31 ~ 1/9/2012 11:26:48 AM ~ Fearneyhough: pg 88 1:49:59 ~ 1/9/2012 11:27:16 AM ~ VonFlatern: pg 88 Is there a surplus in this budget? 1:50:13 ~ 1/9/2012 11:27:31 AM ~ Cook: We took a budget cut to reduce from 1.5 to 1.187 1:50:34 ~ 1/9/2012 11:27:51 AM ~ VonFlatern: Actual is 1.187 in table 1:50:44 ~ 1/9/2012 11:28:02 AM ~ Cook: yes 1:50:48 ~ 1/9/2012 11:28:05 AM ~ Fearneyhough: pg 93 exc. request front end loader, recommended approval by gov office 155,000 purchase on page 95, farm and shop equipment to better utilize bldg Governor denail 1:52:01 ~ 1/9/2012 11:29:18 AM ~ Meier: breakdown and prioritize, 1:52:12 ~ 1/9/2012 11:29:29 AM ~ Fearneyhough: Bleachers 1:52:21 ~ 1/9/2012 11:29:39 AM ~ Berger: Great fundraising project name on bleachers 1:52:32 ~ 1/9/2012 11:29:50 AM ~ Fearneyhough: pg 98 no exc. request pg 101: Highway weed and pest, exc. request for 200,000 for mou increase with highway dept, money comes from WYDOT 1:53:15 ~ 1/9/2012 11:30:32 AM ~ VonFlatern: Explanation of funding 1:53:23 ~ 1/9/2012 11:30:40 AM ~ Fearneyhough: I do not know. 1:53:37 ~ 1/9/2012 11:30:55 AM ~ Berger: Will ask DOT 1:53:44 ~ 1/9/2012 11:31:01 AM ~ Fearneyhough: pg 105 Predator Management program 2,370,00; does not specifiy amount to 1:54:35 ~ 1/9/2012 11:31:52 AM ~ VonFlatern: Nice to have backing, justificatino for spending already and what this will do in the future 1:54:57 ~ 1/9/2012 11:32:15 AM ~ Brett: pg 104, reflected on page 108 correction. net increase of 1.2 million dollars. 1.2 million in col 6 should reflect negative so govs rec would be 1.2 million, incorrect in tables on 104 and 108. 1:56:08 ~ 1/9/2012 11:33:25 AM ~ Berger: predator control report received? 1:56:20 ~ 1/9/2012 11:33:37 AM ~ Mai: I believe we have. 1:56:29 ~ 1/9/2012 11:33:46 AM ~ Berger: From group discuss? 1:56:40 ~ 1/9/2012 11:33:57 AM ~ Drake: yes, publish annual report but does not address concerns of Senator VonFlatern, more increase from wildlife mgt 1:57:39 ~ 1/9/2012 11:34:56 AM ~ Steward: Local issues in carbon county, statute allows reimbursement to producers who want it back, results in budget shortfall, would these dollars allow counties to address shortfalls 1:58:27 ~ 1/9/2012 11:35:45 AM ~ Drake: lose 25,000 per year to predator refunds, would help in your situation, 90% are out of state leaseholders, wyoming landholders often do not request refunds, bill in joint agriculture committee, dollars would help 1:59:16 ~ 1/9/2012 11:36:34 AM ~ Fearneyhough: pg 110 wyo beef council, no exc request pg 115, wheat marketing commission, pg 119 leaf cutter B budget, no exc request pg 122 wyoming state fair, 124,890 to complete renovations, gov concurs with approval pg 125 livestock pavilion budget, 785,000 to put in floor, SBC recommends denial and governor concurs pg 128 Capital construction to paind exterior, SBC approval and govenor concurs pg 131: Dairy Barn and Communicom Bldg, complete the barn, vendors sell wares in there,SBC denial and gov concurs pg 135 trailer utility connections, move horse trailers out of campground, SBC denial and gov concurs 2:03:32 ~ 1/9/2012 11:40:50 AM ~ Mai: Dawn pg 96 2:03:48 ~ 1/9/2012 11:41:05 AM ~ Dawn: pg 96 Request for match monies intended to be one time, left in developement of standard budget, 0881 line item, do you believe that was one time? 2:04:23 ~ 1/9/2012 11:41:41 AM ~ Berger: So on markup need to make correction 2:04:32 ~ 1/9/2012 11:41:49 AM ~ Fearneyhough: We concur, Director Goodrich update on raising funds on matching 2:04:54 ~ 1/9/2012 11:42:12 AM ~ Goodrich, State Fair Director, balance to date is 105888.62 . Threshold 100000 to receive matching funds, have crossed that mark and efforts are going well and we intend to reach 200000 by fair time, planning committee for 100 Wyo state fair, subcommittees planning activities including county display, entry in parade, upgraded awards and incentives, core activities are 4H and FAA which will still be focused on. Permanent marker within the grounds 2:06:56 ~ 1/9/2012 11:44:14 AM ~ Wallis: General question for director, interstate shipment for meat, other states pushing effort, administrator not aware of Wyoming looking at this. Change the equal to, same as problem that we have talked about, Do you have money in your budget to implement that program, same as or resolved politically, use existing program 2:08:28 ~ 1/9/2012 11:45:46 AM ~ Fearneyhough: If equal too, we are in better position to move forward. If they go to same as, may be fine with our inspection and not the bldg, may take it to federal standard, Same as is significantly different and I do not have the money to deal with it. I would prefer equal to, because we are there. In some plants we exceed but are not the same as. Anytime we can get a market open in Wyoming, I am all for that. I will travel to DC to meet with Ag Directors and will be a topic of discussion with Dept of Agriculture 2:10:32 ~ 1/9/2012 11:47:50 AM ~ Berger: Bring in DOT 2:10:42 ~ 1/9/2012 11:48:00 AM ~ 2:11:08 ~ 1/9/2012 11:51:06 AM ~ Berger: Apologize for delay 2:11:20 ~ 1/9/2012 11:51:18 AM ~ Director Cox: Thank you, Introduce folks here, Kevin Hibbard at table, Chairman of both commissions with us today, Delber McOmie, Tom Loftin, Dennis Burn, LTC John Butler, Gregg Fredrick, Ken Shultz, (Tim Hibbard retired, Ken took his position), Sandy Scott, Other subject matter experts are available Opening comments: HIghlight DOT priorities for budget cycle, Kevin will walk you through the budget, Pgs 12 -14 2:14:27 ~ 1/9/2012 11:54:25 AM ~ Nicholas: pg 6, you are largest state agency, think Dept of health is but you are. 2000 employees, what percentage are in big plan and what percentage are in the law enforcement plan. 2:15:10 ~ 1/9/2012 11:55:07 AM ~ Cox: Wyoming law enforcement would be about 207 Highway Dept Patrol 2:15:31 ~ 1/9/2012 11:55:28 AM ~ Nicholas: Dispathcer? 2:15:44 ~ 1/9/2012 11:55:41 AM ~ Cox: do not know breakout 2:15:51 ~ 1/9/2012 11:55:49 AM ~ Nicholas: Grandfathered employees, new dispatchers under big plan 2:16:04 ~ 1/9/2012 11:56:02 AM ~ Cos: That is correct 2:16:11 ~ 1/9/2012 11:56:08 AM ~ Nicholas: What percentage of retirees are WYDOT employees? 2:16:28 ~ 1/9/2012 11:56:25 AM ~ Cox: I do not know percentage 2:16:44 ~ 1/9/2012 11:56:41 AM ~ Nicholas: History 2:16:50 ~ 1/9/2012 11:56:47 AM ~ Cox: third tab in the booklet 2:16:57 ~ 1/9/2012 11:56:54 AM ~ Nicholas: Statistics ..number of staffing versus miles of road constructed, staffing is up, miles are down, Have you heard this? 2:17:42 ~ 1/9/2012 11:57:40 AM ~ Cox: In 2011 and 2010 budget, DOT was cut 113 vacant positions, some were critical and caused gymnastics to adapt, compared nationwide, we have the widest wingspan of mandates assigned to any DOT, one being Dept of Vehicle and Motor Vehicles, mandate is larger, surpasses highway miles, comparing to other states, becomes obvious that we are much leaner than many states, 2:19:21 ~ 1/9/2012 11:59:18 AM ~ Nicholas: Going through your budget, denying request, those dollars stay in your budget, goes into highway construction, 2:19:48 ~ 1/9/2012 11:59:46 AM ~ Cox: The balancing acct for WYDOT is highway state construction fund. When we spend a dollar it has to come off the highway so we are careful. 2:20:23 ~ 1/9/2012 12:00:20 PM ~ Nicholas: What success have you had controlling asphalt prices? Buying the oil as a commodity and subcontractors would use part of yours? 2:20:56 ~ 1/9/2012 12:00:54 PM ~ Cox: We can't control the cost of asphalt. We studied buying it as a commodity, not cost effective. 600 per ton price has come down from there, driven by market forces and refinery production 2:21:43 ~ 1/9/2012 12:01:41 PM ~ Cox; Pg 12 pg 83 to 86 Our initial request for 6 new positions, text discusses, since 1988 the state troopers grew to about 207 total. During that time, the actual number of dispatchers became considerably less. Calls for service are up, demands on service have increased, Biggest reason to ask for additional personnel is in last paragraph on page 84, dollar amount for overtime, almost 700,000 paid out in overtime to adequately staff the center. Over 4600 hours the center was not staffed. IN those cases, one dispatcher is assigned to two areas of the state, cost increase, stress increase and turnover in center. Regardless of work manipulation to make it better in environment, we are short of dispatches. Six is less than what we need. Pg 85 costs, pg 86 Governor recommends two 2:25:32 ~ 1/9/2012 12:05:30 PM ~ Nicholas: Exit interviews, where do dispatchers go to? 2:25:46 ~ 1/9/2012 12:05:44 PM ~ Cox: We do exit interviews, reasons is work force spread too thin. Some go to local call center here in Cheyenne. Wyoming Patrol only 1 of 2 in nation who dispatch from one location. We have efficiency from one location. Lose employees to other jobs, Do not know what other state jobs.3 2:26:41 ~ 1/9/2012 12:06:39 PM ~ Meier: Numbers, 268 on enrolled, 207 patrol officers, what is balance? 2:27:03 ~ 1/9/2012 12:07:00 PM ~ Cox: Dispatchers and civilian employees and people in ports of entries, 2:27:26 ~ 1/9/2012 12:07:24 PM ~ Nicholas: Where does overtime come out of? 2:27:35 ~ 1/9/2012 12:07:33 PM ~ Hibbert: 1.9 million estimated for overtime. In previous years, over ran that amount. Use vacancy of positions to pay for over runs 2:28:11 ~ 1/9/2012 12:08:09 PM ~ Nicholas: So vacany is your overtime? 2:28:20 ~ 1/9/2012 12:08:18 PM ~ Hibbert: We do have a budget. If it is over, use vacancies 901 and 902 lines 2:29:17 ~ 1/9/2012 12:09:14 PM ~ Nicholas: do you ask to have your OT increased and your positions decreased? 2:29:37 ~ 1/9/2012 12:09:34 PM ~ Hibbert: No we do not 2:29:42 ~ 1/9/2012 12:09:40 PM ~ NIcholas: Why not propose a decrease in overtime and an increase in positions? 2:29:58 ~ 1/9/2012 12:09:56 PM ~ Hibbert: With current budget presented still anticipate over run. 2:30:14 ~ 1/9/2012 12:10:11 PM ~ Nicholas: All 100 series paid out of highway funds? 2:30:24 ~ 1/9/2012 12:10:22 PM ~ Hibbert: Largely so. There is federal money. 2:30:46 ~ 1/9/2012 12:10:43 PM ~ Nicholas: Can't reduce your overtime for more positions..How much do you typically revert out of your 100 series, not reversion. Do you revert or do you move it from 100? 2:31:20 ~ 1/9/2012 12:11:18 PM ~ Hibbert: Technically it is a reversion, never leaves DOT 2:31:34 ~ 1/9/2012 12:11:32 PM ~ Nicholas: Pot of money meeting labor requirements, can save money by hiring more personnel, save pool whether in OT or 100 series, why don't we see a net benefit back to construction? If you can't show a reduction, why not work with ballon the way it is. 2:32:43 ~ 1/9/2012 12:12:40 PM ~ cox: Did not assert that we would save OT money by hiring. Accounting on page 84 and 85. Pg 85 project cost of hiring six dispatchers. I am not asserting that hring of 6 or 2 would bring a cost savings. trying to get job. 2:33:43 ~ 1/9/2012 12:13:41 PM ~ Nicholas: reduce stress or overtime? 2:33:52 ~ 1/9/2012 12:13:49 PM ~ Cox: Both. If legislature approves two positions will come back with accounting of impact on overtime. 2:34:17 ~ 1/9/2012 12:14:14 PM ~ Berger: Analysis of overtime over the past decade? Based on HP and dispatchers 2:34:38 ~ 1/9/2012 12:14:35 PM ~ cox: Can compile for you 2:34:47 ~ 1/9/2012 12:14:45 PM ~ Berger: Overtime is chronic because it is 24/7. Can be alieviated by new employees 2:35:11 ~ 1/9/2012 12:15:08 PM ~ It has been a difficult task to hire new employees. Yes we do have applicants 2:37:06 ~ 1/9/2012 12:17:03 PM ~ Berger How long do they stay? 2:37:22 ~ 1/9/2012 12:17:20 PM ~ Meier How many vacancy's? 2:37:40 ~ 1/9/2012 12:17:38 PM ~ Cox Refer to book The actual statistics 2:39:21 ~ 1/9/2012 12:19:18 PM ~ Meier How long have they been vacant 2:40:07 ~ 1/9/2012 12:20:04 PM ~ Cox We could give you a monthly figure. That is a moving figure. One of the things we undertaook was to ask the gov. is we could transfer positions from commision positions to legislative positions. 2:42:07 ~ 1/9/2012 12:22:05 PM ~ Berger Come back @ 1:15.