File name: JAC Budget Hearings FY 13-14_20120109_132205.dcr Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\HAppropriations\Desktop\Recordings 6 ~ 1/9/2012 1:35:12 PM ~ DOT Continues - Afternoon Session Director Cox and Budget Officer Hibbard, 47 ~ 1/9/2012 1:35:53 PM ~ Berger: Let's continue 54 ~ 1/9/2012 1:36:00 PM ~ Cox: pg 12, prioirty 2 priority 8 shows one cdo position which is in drivers services so it is six positions in the same component. pg 36 and 37 2:03 ~ 1/9/2012 1:37:09 PM ~ Nicholas: Start from page 17 and take us through in order chronological, not in priority 2:34 ~ 1/9/2012 1:37:40 PM ~ Cox: Call attention to the ones we spend extra attention to and Kevin can go through it 2:55 ~ 1/9/2012 1:38:01 PM ~ Nicholas: Most of us have looked at your priority list 3:07 ~ 1/9/2012 1:38:13 PM ~ Berger: 3:22 ~ 1/9/2012 1:38:28 PM ~ Cox: Will talk about driver services, surface transportaion, air service enhancement and WYLINK. Pg 13, items 37 through 40 are Office of Administrative Hearings, just calling attention, not spending any time unless questions. 4:20 ~ 1/9/2012 1:39:26 PM ~ Hibbard: pg 17: Directors unit pg 19 cut of 9496 dollars. History of DOT financial systems and reviewing standard budgets. We upgraded project costing systems. Some objects got out of sink..netted to zero. Directrors budget cus. Some items were performance related cut. Used to direct bill federal govt on every printing job, Instituted an indirect cost allocation plan which lowered number of people needed and therefore costs, Professional services fees cut Recesssion driven items, particularly in human resources, now substantial amount of applications for jobs, so do not need outreach. Cost of heating buildings was concern, gas prices are going down so may not be as big a problem. DOT has made significant cuts where we can, not holding money on the table, 1.2 million shed from budget to go to road construction. 8:37 ~ 1/9/2012 1:43:43 PM ~ Hibbard: pg 21 Attorney General's Office, moved from DOT. Cut costs from AG, space costs, computer related actrivities. Still have small budget for AG office to buy statutory books annually and travel is provided in some cases and telecommunication costs for AG office 9:57 ~ 1/9/2012 1:45:03 PM ~ Steward: Thank you for trying to find money to save. Reduction requests will reduce standard budget 10:24 ~ 1/9/2012 1:45:30 PM ~ Hibbard: Yes that is correct 10:31 ~ 1/9/2012 1:45:37 PM ~ Steward. We go through approving the standard budget. Have not seen reductions so frequently. Gov approves agency standard budget first so why not recommend reductions in standard budget? 11:15 ~ 1/9/2012 1:46:21 PM ~ Hibbard: Advised for transparency, as exception requests, on advice of A&I 11:45 ~ 1/9/2012 1:46:51 PM ~ Nicholas: OUtside attorney billing fees, 600 and 900 series on state side of budget 12:06 ~ 1/9/2012 1:47:12 PM ~ Hibbard: Attorney generals office only, handout lists all fees for third party fees, including hiring an attorney to work a case. Reference new document: pg 10. Internal of 70,000. External cost 113,000. approved in transportation dept budget. 13:42 ~ 1/9/2012 1:48:48 PM ~ Nicholas: Fees have exceeded that significantly. Why arn't you going to AG office? 14:11 ~ 1/9/2012 1:49:17 PM ~ Hibbard: I believe that is vetted for expertise with the AG office 14:32 ~ 1/9/2012 1:49:38 PM ~ Nicholas: Is the outside contracting in the book you are talking about? 14:45 ~ 1/9/2012 1:49:51 PM ~ Cox: Condemnation cases attorneys have been based on AG recommendation. 15:05 ~ 1/9/2012 1:50:11 PM ~ Nicholas: Use AG office as we are state entity. Outside lawyers drive costs. We have constituents who think outside lawyers are driving up the fees so less money for construction. Work I saw the AG office could have handled. Work done could have been handled by AG office. Most of what I saw were initial offers on condemnation which would have been less. Who advises? 17:04 ~ 1/9/2012 1:52:10 PM ~ Cox: Discussion with AG office, then DOT. 17:28 ~ 1/9/2012 1:52:34 PM ~ Nicholas: Will tell AG office to cut it out, 17:38 ~ 1/9/2012 1:52:44 PM ~ Cox: Statement stands 17:43 ~ 1/9/2012 1:52:49 PM ~ Hibbard: Internal review, exception request of 79,000. pg 27: public affairs office, 33 million in flood damage, digitally conveyed message to traveling public pg 28: Significant decrease in item 5. Map printed with year on it. New map issued made old ones unwanted and thrown away. Do not put dates on map so printing less. pg 30: Governor's recommendations on office furnishings and equipment, replacement of computer higher, adjustments made, same on telecommunications cuts, not driven by DOT 20:50 ~ 1/9/2012 1:55:56 PM ~ Nicholas: Do you have more autonomy? 21:05 ~ 1/9/2012 1:56:11 PM ~ Hibbard: Costs paid to other state agencies for services, third party relationship with other agencies Total in 2012, one fiscal period 6.3 million to other state agencies for services rendered, A&I, dept of revenue,, etc. Substantial cust that CIO has made recommendations for. 22:30 ~ 1/9/2012 1:57:36 PM ~ Nicholas: Consolidation of IT in govt. How many folks in your IT division 22:51 ~ 1/9/2012 1:57:57 PM ~ Hibbard: Information in handout, IT has a total of 40 authorized positions. Out of that 40, 42 are filled. There are four temporary positions. 23:49 ~ 1/9/2012 1:58:55 PM ~ Nicholas: Do your IT people serve on the statewide IT? Are they part of the discussion of consolidation of IT? 24:12 ~ 1/9/2012 1:59:18 PM ~ Cox: Yes, my understanding is that as consolidation takes place, it would involve all areas general to agencies and leave in propriortory 24:56 ~ 1/9/2012 2:00:02 PM ~ Nicholas: Example 25:01 ~ 1/9/2012 2:00:07 PM ~ Cox: Items that went to Google, storage. The only thing we see that needs to be gone through with real care is making sure the IT capability of DOT is not lessened as a result of the consolidation. 25:46 ~ 1/9/2012 2:00:52 PM ~ Nicholas: We all share that view. Are there IT demands that you say a central IT could never do? 26:05 ~ 1/9/2012 2:01:11 PM ~ Cox: Yes, asset management system, enterprise resource system, and others as well. Probably the preponderance of time taken up today by IT folks is maintaining those systems. We hope the consolidation would be more freedom for the IT people to take care of those systems. 27:05 ~ 1/9/2012 2:02:11 PM ~ Nicholas: WYDOT has done a great job improving website, cameras, getting information out. What we learned from you would get transported to everyone else. Ideal world, your websites would be even better. You have the commission side budget and you have done a good job. In terms of consolidation, can you get better services? What are your concerns 28:42 ~ 1/9/2012 2:03:48 PM ~ Cox: Possible and a worthy goal, will be a partner in the discussion. Concern of maintaining, at least break even in not losing ground. 29:09 ~ 1/9/2012 2:04:15 PM ~ Nicholas: What do your IT people say are hurdles to overcome to be successful? Example, new facility? Would like to remove redundancies. 30:11 ~ 1/9/2012 2:05:17 PM ~ Cox: Current CIO office has made great progress in relationships between agencies. Our IT people care less about number of people working than the quality of service. They would say go slow in interactive relationship..Fear that if we focus on breaking even people wise, will lose quality. 31:52 ~ 1/9/2012 2:06:58 PM ~ Nicholas: We want the level of expertise you hav developed statewide. You should get better service from a group of attorneys than one. Benefit of shared expertise from IT consolidation. People available for a certain project or amount of time. Get feedback from IT person. Want service to be of highest quality no matter who the CIO is. 34:00 ~ 1/9/2012 2:09:06 PM ~ Cox: Agree, will commit even further, not sure of highway projects being sexy. 34:22 ~ 1/9/2012 2:09:28 PM ~ Hibbard: pg 30 Adjusting price for economies of scale. Will see that throughout the budget and have Governor's recommendation. pg 33: Tom Loftin, regulatory aspect, motor vehicle services, motor fuel, driver services, recommending cuts, Governor's recommendation is 12,240. Differential is for computer purchase. pg 35 pg 36 36:08 ~ 1/9/2012 2:11:14 PM ~ Cox: pg 36 Original request for 5 new positions. Governor's freeze on positions in 2010, 4 positions were lost. In 08 a fiscal impact request was given for comment on impact of real ID. Gave some comment. At the time, the impact was set aside because it was not time, Most complaints in area of DOT is waiting lines and concepts due to the real ID. Time to get driver's license has doubled. Attempting to speed services back up . Pg 37: Governor's recommendation is two new positions and one internatl transfer 38:32 ~ 1/9/2012 2:13:38 PM ~ Meier: Thank you for solving constituents problems. A lot of it is communication. Explain exactly what is needed. Plans for communciation and suggestions for modifying requirements? 39:29 ~ 1/9/2012 2:14:35 PM ~ Cox: There is a possiblility that a bill introduced this session will offer an optional component to real ID. Opting out of real ID requirement if renewing license. Would complicate their life if going into a federal building or on an airplane. Actual requirements of the act, documents that have to be produced, Wyoming complied with the minimum guidelines. We are at minimum now. Can always communicate better 41:37 ~ 1/9/2012 2:16:43 PM ~ Loftin: I will run through real quick some of the items. We have several public service announcement telling people what they need to bring with them. We have an handout that tells people what to bring to get a new license. As we identify locations that are a little too strict, we go out there and give them more training. If they are an imigrant, they have to have property documents. 46:15 ~ 1/9/2012 2:21:21 PM ~ Nicholas Do you have the capacity for applicants to go online 46:48 ~ 1/9/2012 2:21:54 PM ~ Loftin No we don't have capabilities. We do try to educate the people as a good time to go to acquire a liscense. We have hired part time people to help out with the known busy times. 48:37 ~ 1/9/2012 2:23:43 PM ~ Nicholas We are trying to use the internet is your agency. 49:07 ~ 1/9/2012 2:24:13 PM ~ Cox yes we are using tele-conferencing We do joint training with neighboring states. 49:57 ~ 1/9/2012 2:25:03 PM ~ Loftin You have to be there to physical documents. This is just a one time deal. What really takes the time is to scan these documents. 51:39 ~ 1/9/2012 2:26:45 PM ~ Nicholas Why can't I scan the documents and email them it 52:20 ~ 1/9/2012 2:27:26 PM ~ Edmonds I just recently renewed my llisence and it went very smooth. 53:09 ~ 1/9/2012 2:28:15 PM ~ Berger I have been living out of an box for years 53:46 ~ 1/9/2012 2:28:52 PM ~ Berger What about the folks who were not born in a hospitle. 54:27 ~ 1/9/2012 2:29:33 PM ~ Loftin We will review what they have and if comfortable, will recommend a new liscense. 55:21 ~ 1/9/2012 2:30:27 PM ~ Berger Will this lessen the lines in the futer 56:33 ~ 1/9/2012 2:31:39 PM ~ Hibbard Page 43 Page 47, Page 48, Page 50, 52 Office services program, significant cuts Page 57 Reduction of 3.1 million That means OCIO will eventually OCIO will provide.... Admin and Hearingfs Met with A&I and Office of Admin Hearings That will influence. On occasion they will work for the school district. I will answer any questions. Page 64 Management services As we progess through the funds Purchasing Page 73 Quality Customer Service Page 78 Collects and administers Page 83 Request for the dispatch Page 90 268 officers Page 92 Radioactive Waste Ports of Entry Employee relocation 0500 0501 Historically $100,000 This will simplify the relocation process Page101 Wyolink The first unit is the The second unit is WYOlink 1:08:13 ~ 1/9/2012 2:43:19 PM ~ Cox Page 104 Allow us to turn to service contract or maintenance agreement. 1:09:11 ~ 1/9/2012 2:44:17 PM ~ Shultz The end of Nov. had handled over 12 mill calls. This is a biannual purchase 1:10:26 ~ 1/9/2012 2:45:32 PM ~ Nicholas These in areas 1:11:12 ~ 1/9/2012 2:46:18 PM ~ Shultz We haven't been able to develope this expertise 1:11:53 ~ 1/9/2012 2:46:59 PM ~ Hibbard Page 106 is the WYolink 1:12:25 ~ 1/9/2012 2:47:31 PM ~ Von Flatern 1:12:56 ~ 1/9/2012 2:48:02 PM ~ Cox The simple answer is no. Page 105 the purpose was to get the system built out. What this does is bringing us up to version 7.9 from 7.2 1:14:33 ~ 1/9/2012 2:49:39 PM ~ Hibbard Currently..... 56 million by legislature 20 mill on the backbone I would have to come back with that answer. 1:15:42 ~ 1/9/2012 2:50:48 PM ~ Nicholas The local we put into homeland security It is frustrating to me that it has a shelf life and upgradess would have been included. 1:17:09 ~ 1/9/2012 2:52:15 PM ~ Shultz We did not negotiate into the future. We have some concerns about more locations being added at this point in time 1:18:16 ~ 1/9/2012 2:53:22 PM ~ Nicholas I make sure we get upgrades in the future. We are locked into motorola 1:19:03 ~ 1/9/2012 2:54:09 PM ~ Schlutz Yes we are for a time but would have been with any other vendor 1:19:40 ~ 1/9/2012 2:54:46 PM ~ Nicholas When should we look at another vendor 1:20:05 ~ 1/9/2012 2:55:11 PM ~ Schlutz There is not enough room on these mountain top locations. 1:20:52 ~ 1/9/2012 2:55:58 PM ~ Cox Back in 05 when the RFB, Motarola was the only one capable. Contained in the original budget submission, there we are on the brink where other vendors will be able to bid. I think there is a time when Casper will be able to have a diffeerent vendor and still tie on. 1:24:06 ~ 1/9/2012 2:59:12 PM ~ Pedersen Is there anyway we can project what future expensed will be. 1:25:06 ~ 1/9/2012 3:00:12 PM ~ Cox I think what you will see a ratching down of the expenses. It has old software, we will need to purchase new software.This is more of a reaccurring costs. The lack of sites slowed down our growth. 1:27:54 ~ 1/9/2012 3:03:00 PM ~ Nicholas I can decide that I am going stay......... Is it 6.3 mill that we are going to have to pay anyway. I thought the shelf life would be longer for 80 million 1:29:22 ~ 1/9/2012 3:04:28 PM ~ Schultz That will be a 3.2 request will cover all the hardware 1:30:02 ~ 1/9/2012 3:05:08 PM ~ Nicholas what we need is a report from you telling us what we have been putting in and what it will cost us in the future. 1:31:17 ~ 1/9/2012 3:06:23 PM ~ Von Flatern We are spending 7.8 mill per biennium 1:32:13 ~ 1/9/2012 3:07:19 PM ~ Schultz There is a 4$ inflation factor built in. It is an upgrade that have to be put on in sequence. 1:33:18 ~ 1/9/2012 3:08:24 PM ~ Cox I don't disagree with the Gov's denial at this time. Will it be less next year, I hope so. 1:34:05 ~ 1/9/2012 3:09:11 PM ~ Nicholas Is gov.3 on top 1:34:32 ~ 1/9/2012 3:09:38 PM ~ Hibbard 6.3 mill will get to the point where we can upgrade on a regualar basis. 1:35:31 ~ 1/9/2012 3:10:37 PM ~ Schultz There are presently 192 users on the system. 1:35:59 ~ 1/9/2012 3:11:05 PM ~ Hibbard 66.2 mill is what is what went out the door so far. 1:36:46 ~ 1/9/2012 3:36:45 PM ~ DOT Agency Budget Hearing Continues 1:37:39 ~ 1/9/2012 3:37:38 PM ~ Berger: Call to order. WYLINK Percentage of usage by DOT 1:38:19 ~ 1/9/2012 3:38:18 PM ~ Cox: 17.8% of the total users of the system. Anticipate that the percentage will go down as the subscription rate goes down. 1:38:53 ~ 1/9/2012 3:38:52 PM ~ Meier: Csot with subscription? 1:39:01 ~ 1/9/2012 3:39:00 PM ~ Cox: No cost to local communities 1:39:17 ~ 1/9/2012 3:39:16 PM ~ Cox: Pg 105: Accrued Interest. Governor is deliberating sending a letter about using that interest within the WYDOT budget. 1:40:02 ~ 1/9/2012 3:40:01 PM ~ Hibbard: Money back from WYOLINK, will work with office and move back money so it is available for reappropriation pg 89 Highway Patrol Office, code 0241, office furnishings, Governor recommended cut. Page 87, recommended a different cut. Error. Number should be 5187. Aeronautics administration: 13,600 and CIO adjustment Operational Services pg 114: State aircraft, no request to change. 1250 per hour rate for the aircraft. Went into red by approximately 5000 last year. Working close to the margin. 1:42:33 ~ 1/9/2012 3:42:33 PM ~ Von Flatern: pg 114 - Chancelor 414? 1:42:54 ~ 1/9/2012 3:42:54 PM ~ Hibbard: will be updated, do not have that photo plane, commision has a plane that it runs for photo missions. 1:43:20 ~ 1/9/2012 3:43:19 PM ~ Meier: Capacity utilization of the planes, how long do they sit, overlap in requests, utilizaton, 1:44:13 ~ 1/9/2012 3:44:13 PM ~ Byrne: Between 400 and 600 per aircraft per year, number of passengers is increasing, 1:45:12 ~ 1/9/2012 3:45:12 PM ~ Meier: Clarification of hours into days 1:45:23 ~ 1/9/2012 3:45:22 PM ~ Byrne: Aircraft are not sitting very often. Every aircraft is used most every day. 1:45:50 ~ 1/9/2012 3:45:49 PM ~ Von Flatern: rate? 1:45:58 ~ 1/9/2012 3:45:57 PM ~ Byrne: The rate is 1250 per hour. 1:46:07 ~ 1/9/2012 3:46:06 PM ~ Von Flatern. Running 6 to 700 per year is a good year 1:46:20 ~ 1/9/2012 3:46:19 PM ~ Nicholas: Passenger summary? 1:46:31 ~ 1/9/2012 3:46:31 PM ~ Byrne: WYDOT is the biggest user. 1:46:45 ~ 1/9/2012 3:46:44 PM ~ Nicholas: What do you use it for? 1:46:53 ~ 1/9/2012 3:46:53 PM ~ Byrne: Projects, commissions, Most folks are operation. 1:47:31 ~ 1/9/2012 3:47:30 PM ~ Von Flatern: Great information at back of book. 1:47:51 ~ 1/9/2012 3:47:50 PM ~ Hibbard: airport improvements and air service enhancements, GF 10+ million, .. No exception request 1:48:54 ~ 1/9/2012 3:48:53 PM ~ Cox: pg 120 The original standard budget was 3 million per year. It was cut in half several years ago. Current funding by statutue rolls over if not used. That money would sustain the program for a while. Ask for money when neeced. Governor's recommendation is for one time funding 1:50:25 ~ 1/9/2012 3:50:25 PM ~ Berger: Dennis, a few minutes on this topic. What are local govts or communities doing to raise funds? 1:50:52 ~ 1/9/2012 3:50:51 PM ~ Byrne: Benefits of the program. Committee received effectiveness of funding. Wyoming is doing well. Leakage is down. Leakage is people who buy tickets here and drive to a different airport. Leakage down to 35%. Capacity is up in communities that have received funding. Comments are in back of report from communitiy members without air service. Air Service Enhancement brought on in 2007. We could utilize demand in market, thought we would not have to pay for it. Not the case in the short term. Airplanes are being parked by all airlines, esp. type used in Wyoming. Fuel costs are higher. Do not see a point where it does not cost us in the short term. Demand is there. Airlines understand opportunity cost in their aircraft. At this point, it is what community can pay the most. We continually strive to get better service and access from the airlines. 1:54:24 ~ 1/9/2012 3:54:24 PM ~ Berger: American airlines going into bankruptcy. How does that affect Wyoming? 1:54:45 ~ 1/9/2012 3:54:44 PM ~ Byrne: With American Eagle, we do not know. Reading the news, it is the type of aircraft used here so costs could go up in terms of minimum revenue costs to the airport. 1:55:22 ~ 1/9/2012 3:55:22 PM ~ Berger: People have gotten used to using that service 1:55:36 ~ 1/9/2012 3:55:35 PM ~ Byrne: What is the communities participation? WE are funding air service in 5 communities. Each one is different, has a match, Ability to raise funds varies. Jackson is the most successful with 3 million per year. All other communities have some success in getting some matching shares. There is not set percentage like with airport improvement projects. 1:57:00 ~ 1/9/2012 3:57:00 PM ~ Harshman: Is there more demand out there? Cheyenne is 90 miles from DIA, hard to stop leakage. What about the middle of the state? 1:57:31 ~ 1/9/2012 3:57:30 PM ~ Byrne: There is more demand than money. Casper, Sheridan and Riverton do not receive money for enhancement. No application has been denied. Process is not like highway project where projects are prioritized. Has to do with availability of type of aircraft. Requests are vetted and analyzed individually. Demand, matching funds, sustainable. Yes, more demand than money. 1:59:15 ~ 1/9/2012 3:59:14 PM ~ Harshman: Question 1:59:25 ~ 1/9/2012 3:59:24 PM ~ Byrne: Does not mean there is opportunity to solve priority one or two, airline needs aircraft and willingness to serve market 1:59:52 ~ 1/9/2012 3:59:51 PM ~ Meier: 4610 code, pooled interest. What fund is that coming out of? Transportation Enterprise Fund? 2:00:15 ~ 1/9/2012 4:00:14 PM ~ Hibbard: That is the interest we have collected on airport enhancement. Need to have legislature appropriate it. Transportation Enterprise fund is ran by state lands investment board. 2:00:57 ~ 1/9/2012 4:00:57 PM ~ Berger: For 5 communities, how many airlines provide service there? 2:01:13 ~ 1/9/2012 4:01:12 PM ~ Byrne: In each of the communities, we are supporting one airline. There are additional airlines supporting Cheyenne, Jackson, Cody, Rock Springs and Gillette. 2:02:11 ~ 1/9/2012 4:02:11 PM ~ Hibbard: pg 124 Air Service Administration Budget The one position in the program is the only position that has general fund associated with it. There is administration costs to program. Items in budget are really one half. Funds could be taken from the corpus and we have done that in the past. May need to do that again. 2:04:10 ~ 1/9/2012 4:04:09 PM ~ Cox: Service transportation on page 126. DOT in budget process and collaberation with Governor's office came up with 3 scenerios. 1. Mitigating continued deterioration of the highway.. 2. maintain in condition it is today. 3. improve th highway system. We have proposed scenario 2. We about 134 million short annually to keep highway system in the present condition. Two is a break even type of scenario. Governor's recommendation on page 128. Source of funds has been determined in governor's proposal. Historical backdrop: In 2005, began asking for GF for highways for first time. Hit with inflation in highway industry materials. Effects of earmarking and cumulative effect of inflation brought us to knees to carry out cnostruction. Budget balancing ..Today standard budget is 50 million per year. Nation avg is that states are funded at about 60% state and 40% federal. We got to 45/55 one time. Today we are back to 80 federal and 20% state which is why we keep coming back with these requests. Joint interim committee bills. Need for surface transportation funding is not going away and reality is the feeder for this state mobility is the highway system. Tasked to improve the system. Governor's recommendation is 50 million. We will put to use whatever we are given. We could let this to contract in the first half of the year. That is how big the backfall is. Can give handout of list of bills that the joint transporation committee is going to propose. If every bill is enacted, first yhear impact is 4+ million. 2:12:12 ~ 1/9/2012 4:12:12 PM ~ Nicholas: Transportation Committee has bills. If we had same amount of taxes as other states would we reach the 60/40? 2:13:23 ~ 1/9/2012 4:13:23 PM ~ Cox: No. It would take a combination of measurers. 2:13:36 ~ 1/9/2012 4:13:36 PM ~ Nicholas: If we charged the same in taxes as other states, how much would that be? 2:13:55 ~ 1/9/2012 4:13:54 PM ~ Hibbard: About 70 million we could collect in motor fuel tax. Current distribution formula, 65% to DOT and 35% to communities. WY tax rate lags 2:14:37 ~ 1/9/2012 4:14:37 PM ~ Nicholas: Ratio in other states, how do they generate that, fuel tax, tolls, GF? 2:15:10 ~ 1/9/2012 4:15:09 PM ~ Hibbard: Across the board, everything you can imagine 2:15:22 ~ 1/9/2012 4:15:22 PM ~ Nicholas: Generalization. More users, capacity to generate revenue 2:15:44 ~ 1/9/2012 4:15:43 PM ~ Hibbard: First step would be fuel tax. 2:15:53 ~ 1/9/2012 4:15:52 PM ~ Nicholas: Local fuel tax generating sufficient revenue for 50 or 60% then it is a mechanical issue 2:16:20 ~ 1/9/2012 4:16:20 PM ~ Hibbard: Lag in fuel tax. Mixed basker per every state. Fuel tax differential is first step. Population is important. Tourism, 2:17:12 ~ 1/9/2012 4:17:11 PM ~ Nicholas: Interstates funded differently? 2:17:23 ~ 1/9/2012 4:17:23 PM ~ Hibbard: All highways funded 2:17:35 ~ 1/9/2012 4:17:34 PM ~ Nicholas: Discussion with Director Corra 2:17:51 ~ 1/9/2012 4:17:50 PM ~ Hibbard: Yes disscussion with LSO 2:18:03 ~ 1/9/2012 4:18:02 PM ~ Nicholas: What are the projects that we allocate the AML funding that encourages congress to continue to fund. Discussion with federal delegation? 2:18:36 ~ 1/9/2012 4:18:35 PM ~ Hibbard: Pot of money targeted has a different set of rules. Have not had the discussion 2:18:59 ~ 1/9/2012 4:18:58 PM ~ Nicholas: If payback dollars are subsidizing lower cost, 2:19:39 ~ 1/9/2012 4:19:38 PM ~ Meier: 60/40 split. Revenue generating capacity per mile of highway. Do most of monie go on interstates and highways for federal dollars. 2:20:18 ~ 1/9/2012 4:20:17 PM ~ Hibbard: Issue on federal level: How much money in total from Federal Government? What strings attached? 75% of system is not on interstate or national highway system That falls to Wyoming to support. Federal dollars are targeted towards interstate and national highway system. Money to go to non national system is getting smaller. 2:21:51 ~ 1/9/2012 4:21:50 PM ~ Meier: Have you developed a budget between the federal and non federal highway system? 2:22:09 ~ 1/9/2012 4:22:08 PM ~ Hibbard: Several years ago we did, then moved to entire system. 2:22:24 ~ 1/9/2012 4:22:23 PM ~ Meier: Concern is using state dollars to fix I80 or I25 and other roads are not being fixed. 2:22:45 ~ 1/9/2012 4:22:45 PM ~ Hibbard: Focus state dollars on state roles. Safety issues. Indirect cost allocation with federal dollars, billed back, becomes state dollars then target those dollars for matching dollars 2:23:48 ~ 1/9/2012 4:23:47 PM ~ Meier: Did Department of Defense give money to service roads to missle sites? 2:24:13 ~ 1/9/2012 4:24:13 PM ~ Hibbard: I am not aware of any. 2:24:20 ~ 1/9/2012 4:24:20 PM ~ Meier: Did we use any DOD funds when those roads were originally built? 2:24:38 ~ 1/9/2012 4:24:37 PM ~ Hibbard: Do not know. 2:24:43 ~ 1/9/2012 4:24:43 PM ~ Harshman: What % from out of staters?3Hibbard 53% 2:25:01 ~ 1/9/2012 4:25:00 PM ~ Harshman: Who looks like us? 2:25:13 ~ 1/9/2012 4:25:13 PM ~ Hibbard: No one is as unique as Wyoming. Comparision is an exercise in futility. Limited amount of money. Presentation is on web. GF 50 million, 55 million from other funds, 223 million in federal funds. We are largely a federal matching state. 2:26:14 ~ 1/9/2012 4:26:13 PM ~ Berger: AT about 50% 2:26:21 ~ 1/9/2012 4:26:20 PM ~ Hibbard: We have 8% differential. 2:26:30 ~ 1/9/2012 4:26:29 PM ~ Harshman: Are we the outlier at 20/80? 2:26:49 ~ 1/9/2012 4:26:48 PM ~ Berger: At risk with that ratio to lose funsd? 2:27:01 ~ 1/9/2012 4:27:00 PM ~ Hibbard: Federal govt could give us less money, could apply more regulations, Handout number 94: The next one would be for off road diesel only, Item D Ignition interlock program fees, Dirvers service fees, presently 3,000,000 short Item F Ethanol Tax credit $3,200,0000 2:30:57 ~ 1/9/2012 4:30:57 PM ~ Meier Basically we are emarking funds in the general fund. 2:31:54 ~ 1/9/2012 4:31:54 PM ~ Von Flattern C would be the only that would effect the general fund 2:32:31 ~ 1/9/2012 4:32:31 PM ~ Meier A does not impact the school funding, B is that local formernment or schools again 2:33:20 ~ 1/9/2012 4:33:20 PM ~ Hibbard Counties can be spent any way they want. 2:34:00 ~ 1/9/2012 4:33:59 PM ~ Meier What a clear understanding of where that 6.2 million goes 2:34:32 ~ 1/9/2012 4:34:32 PM ~ Hibbard I'm talking about one fee of many. 2:35:13 ~ 1/9/2012 4:35:12 PM ~ Cox 2:35:39 ~ 1/9/2012 4:35:38 PM ~ Harshman Do you have any data on how much of fines are distributed to schools 2:36:16 ~ 1/9/2012 4:36:15 PM ~ Esquibel How much are we out each year because of the railroad exemption. 2:37:25 ~ 1/9/2012 4:37:24 PM ~ Hubbard Quite Zones no increase requested 2:37:52 ~ 1/9/2012 4:37:51 PM ~ Peterson I see WYDOT plastered everwhere Looks like a lot of advertisement. 2:38:38 ~ 1/9/2012 4:38:37 PM ~ Cox Federal funds for safety. 2:38:59 ~ 1/9/2012 4:38:58 PM ~ Hubbard 402 Safety Funds 410 money 75% fed, 25% state, The next cycle will be 50-50, Next will be 23% feds, 75% state 2:40:36 ~ 1/9/2012 4:40:35 PM ~ Peterson Currently 2:40:54 ~ 1/9/2012 4:40:53 PM ~ Hibbard 2:41:15 ~ 1/9/2012 4:41:14 PM ~ Von Flatern They couldn't tell me if that come fo a fuel tax 2:41:47 ~ 1/9/2012 4:41:46 PM ~ Hibbard Obnoxious weeds in R/W. What we have is a total of $935,000 Page 102 Dept. of Ags budget. WE have met that requirement 2:43:37 ~ 1/9/2012 4:43:36 PM ~ Berger How does that effect your projects 2:43:56 ~ 1/9/2012 4:43:56 PM ~ Hibbard We do not suspend our biddding during this time period 2:44:37 ~ 1/9/2012 4:44:36 PM ~ Berger Thank You 2:44:45 ~ 1/9/2012 4:44:45 PM ~ Hibbard This would be able to coninue to pay contractors If we were to borrow that money 2:45:47 ~ 1/9/2012 4:45:46 PM ~ Berger State Parks 2:50:58 ~ 1/9/2012 4:50:57 PM ~ Simpson Mike Strom Helen Louise,, Iric We are one of the more diverse agencies Cultural recources has six different areas. Responcible for the states idenity. Madam Chairmain I will take you through the budget Page 63, new sheets Defer questions of that to our IT Manager. That request is for $438,000 Next protion Cultural Resources Page 16 Page 18 Civility Matters an addition $250,000. Yes, I can email that to you. Next exception request is on Page 22 Currently 14.4 mill in the corpus 2:57:57 ~ 1/9/2012 4:57:57 PM ~ Nicholas What is the operating What do you use that money for? 2:58:31 ~ 1/9/2012 4:58:30 PM ~ Simpson $690,000+/- 2:59:00 ~ 1/9/2012 4:58:59 PM ~ 2:59:02 ~ 1/9/2012 4:59:01 PM ~ Simpson We have a list all those funds that have been expended. I believe the trust fund award was $25,000 2:59:59 ~ 1/9/2012 4:59:58 PM ~ Nicholas Protection of States Resources. How does that tie in. 3:00:38 ~ 1/9/2012 5:00:37 PM ~ Simpson Other things are included within that verbieage. In 04 or 05 that was put in by the 3:01:46 ~ 1/9/2012 5:01:45 PM ~ Nicholas Are there any statutory restrictions Please find out. 3:02:17 ~ 1/9/2012 5:02:16 PM ~ Simpson Clarification of the trust fund 3:02:59 ~ 1/9/2012 5:02:59 PM ~ Berger The whole history 3:03:25 ~ 1/9/2012 5:03:24 PM ~ Simpson Wyoming State Museum Page 28 no exceptions Page 30 no exceptions Page 33 Adminstrative portion of the trust funds, no exception Page 35 State Historic Preservation Fund An exception was requested Page 3:05:55 ~ 1/9/2012 5:05:54 PM ~ Berger How many projects have we done 3:06:08 ~ 1/9/2012 5:06:08 PM ~ Simpson 76 projects completed Projects took place state wide. Work on some national historical landmarks. Next Page 39 No exceptions requests Page Fund phase 2 of that project Handout #97 3:08:51 ~ 1/9/2012 5:08:50 PM ~ Needles Last year we ask for phase 1 money We didn't get that money until the beginning of the fiscal year. Hence final figures were way off. That is why we provided you with the table that we passed out. With only $350,000 would be a non-starter 3:12:03 ~ 1/9/2012 5:12:03 PM ~ Nicholas What do we get 3:12:23 ~ 1/9/2012 5:12:22 PM ~ Strom We will unify information across state agency 3:13:12 ~ 1/9/2012 5:13:11 PM ~ Nicholas would you still want microphish 3:13:50 ~ 1/9/2012 5:13:49 PM ~ Strom We will still microfilm Yes other states do microfilm We do have some historic microfilm in the vaults and in better condition 3:15:20 ~ 1/9/2012 5:15:19 PM ~ Nicholas My choice is going micro film or digital 3:15:54 ~ 1/9/2012 5:15:53 PM ~ Strom Right now, microfilm is more statble 3:16:30 ~ 1/9/2012 5:16:30 PM ~ Nicholas What if it is just a much of geeks that want this We are spending a ton of money on microfilming 3:17:33 ~ 1/9/2012 5:17:32 PM ~ Needles There will be some seperation anxiety 3:18:48 ~ 1/9/2012 5:18:47 PM ~ Nicholas It is a pain to get a document. Not in a timely manner Microfilm I have to come to your shop on your time 3:20:09 ~ 1/9/2012 5:20:08 PM ~ Needles I agree the process it should be easier. This project gets us one stop closer Mike has been compiling with his staff. What are the things the agencies think are most important. We hear that some agency are wanting their own archieves because that done't want a paper copy. 3:22:49 ~ 1/9/2012 5:22:48 PM ~ Nicholas Can you archive electronic copies that are sent to you. 3:23:35 ~ 1/9/2012 5:23:34 PM ~ Needles We can 3:23:50 ~ 1/9/2012 5:23:49 PM ~ Nicholas Will you be scanning in black & white or color 3:24:27 ~ 1/9/2012 5:24:26 PM ~ Von Flatern This is money for phase 2 So is this stil an experiment and if succsessful, you will need more money later on./ 3:26:11 ~ 1/9/2012 5:26:10 PM ~ Needles Yes it is a pilot Mr. Waters can correct me if I am wrong. Certainly there will be some on going projects in the future. Some type of items are sought out more often than others. 3:28:12 ~ 1/9/2012 5:28:11 PM ~ Von Fltern This equipment will last a while 3:28:30 ~ 1/9/2012 5:28:30 PM ~ Watters Has a provision for 2 or 3 other agencies. This is a good program in which they can be stored digitally. In my prior life I delt with authenic digital copies. This discusion covers phase II We don't have the .... The hardware software compenent would be part of the government cloud project. I would like to recover documents in their orginal form 3:32:48 ~ 1/9/2012 5:32:47 PM ~ Meier Why you don't go ditig One of the costs in the continual updating. Is this going to be the case with going into digital archieveing? You have to input it every 4 years. 3:34:32 ~ 1/9/2012 5:34:32 PM ~ Watters The format is an industry standand. Digital storage is very easy platform now. 3:36:06 ~ 1/9/2012 5:36:05 PM ~ Meier Are there going to be any intervace update costs Numerious locations to be sent to (cloud). 3:37:18 ~ 1/9/2012 5:37:18 PM ~ Nicholas If you look at the court system Some point there is a cost for inputting that information If you recieve 4 or 5 files you will just get key words 3:38:47 ~ 1/9/2012 5:38:46 PM ~ Watters You data about.... Data that is scanned 3:39:23 ~ 1/9/2012 5:39:22 PM ~ Nicholas A document can be created by searchable program. 3:40:01 ~ 1/9/2012 5:40:00 PM ~ Watters I would design the program that would let search on how ever you want it. 3:40:50 ~ 1/9/2012 5:40:50 PM ~ Nicholas Is this something that we are going to have to spend this money sooner or later 3:41:30 ~ 1/9/2012 5:41:29 PM ~ Meier It come back to help america vote act What are other states doing?? 3:42:18 ~ 1/9/2012 5:42:18 PM ~ Watters The consultant that did phase I would have .... this electornically is being transferred hands free, just verified. A solution that only applies to one agency is not an interprise. 3:44:06 ~ 1/9/2012 5:44:06 PM ~ Simpson Consultant recomended two addition postions, we did it in house Page 47 Specfic Funds, No exceptions Page 55 Wyoming Trails No Exceptions P 3:45:35 ~ 1/9/2012 5:45:34 PM ~ Meier Trails around Glendo have they contacted you 3:46:14 ~ 1/9/2012 5:46:14 PM ~ Simpson Page 59 Page 61 Worn out equipments Gov approved $157,000. Recommended setting up a reserve accounty Page 63 MVS costs 3:47:58 ~ 1/9/2012 5:47:57 PM ~ Brian Wrote it as a general request. We rewrote the narrative Pages 67 & 68 fund is 1+ million Now shows 1.2 =/- million Budget office reprrinted CE sheet. With the corrected sheets handed out you should the correct figures. 3:50:31 ~ 1/9/2012 5:50:31 PM ~ Simpson Fluctuating rates gas, electricity an addition 270,000 gov gave 50,000 Page Pine Beetle in State Parks removal new plantings, gov approved $85,000 Same page Conservation Core Provide skilled labor Gov. $100,000 We will look at this from a priority standpoint Cap Con Page 70 First requests midigiate flooding within the parks. 3:54:54 ~ 1/9/2012 5:54:54 PM ~ Meier Pine Beetle What inreased water problems are there going to be because of the lack of trees on the slopes. 3:56:29 ~ 1/9/2012 5:56:28 PM ~ Simpson THe gov has been very supportive when it comes to slooding Page 73 First State park in Wyoming Road needs work. State bldg denied this request South Pass City Lot of State investment Lack of electricity and fire suppression. We will look a enterprise partnership Page 81 Spending Authority Page 82 Things we do Page 86 Territorial Prision Spending Authorityu 4:01:21 ~ 1/9/2012 6:01:20 PM ~ Nicholas Who runs those projects 4:01:51 ~ 1/9/2012 6:01:50 PM ~ Bravo It is bid out 4:02:14 ~ 1/9/2012 6:02:14 PM ~ Nicholas At the bid letting out of state was $3,000 more but didn't have paper work in place. Had to beef it up after the bid was let. I thought was an out of state architech 4:04:36 ~ 1/9/2012 6:04:36 PM ~ Simpson Page 89 Statute for motor boat gas tax 4:05:15 ~ 1/9/2012 6:05:14 PM ~ Berger Thank you O.K. Livestock Board will be next 4:06:40 ~ 1/9/2012 6:06:39 PM ~ Livestock Board Agency Stevenson: opening statement explaining the Board and the Agency. 900 Series and list of 600 Series (no expenditures), list of AWEC employees. Refer to Brucellosis funding balancing proactive testing to protect livestock, regulatory testing and quartine. Balance of funds in an effort to keep reserves. In the last few years, vaccinations and promote herd. page 4, funding sources, 47 percent from State, coming from Brand registration page 9, budget exception. page 18, computerization major request. Money from last year on brand registration earmarked $920,400 total amount 65 % from brand inspections and rest from general fund. 4:17:15 ~ 1/9/2012 6:17:14 PM ~ Berger: Mr. Waters input Mr. Waters: 4:18:11 ~ 1/9/2012 6:18:10 PM ~ Mr. Waters: DOS based program not long term solution. In this solution it will better and will be more 4:19:22 ~ 1/9/2012 6:19:22 PM ~ Berger: Out in the field does not communicate? 4:19:46 ~ 1/9/2012 6:19:45 PM ~ Waters: 4:19:57 ~ 1/9/2012 6:19:57 PM ~ Wallis: 4:20:13 ~ 1/9/2012 6:20:12 PM ~ Stevenson: On line G and moving to the field from the office. 4:20:48 ~ 1/9/2012 6:20:48 PM ~ Berger: More questions of Mr. Water 4:21:03 ~ 1/9/2012 6:21:02 PM ~ Stevenson: Currently have spreadsheet for brand regisration, animal health, law enforcement, are all stand alone. Fully intergrated system is needed for long term. 65% from brand fund and 25% from general fund. page 34, exception denied page 48, exception 4:24:25 ~ 1/9/2012 6:24:24 PM ~ Berger: More comments? 4:24:38 ~ 1/9/2012 6:24:37 PM ~ Stevenson: Let it at that. 4:28:26 ~ 1/9/2012 6:28:24 PM ~