File name: JAC Budget Hearings FY 13-14_20120127_074542.dcr Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\HAppropriations\Desktop\Recordings 7 ~ 1/27/2012 8:49:43 AM ~ Berger: 56 ~ 1/27/2012 8:50:33 AM ~ Mai Remaining gov's rec we have about 85 mil 1:20 ~ 1/27/2012 8:50:57 AM ~ Nicholas: We move that to general fund and create another fun Actal It will free up some one time fundingl 2:20 ~ 1/27/2012 8:51:56 AM ~ Edmonds I do believe that this is a good lesson. 2:40 ~ 1/27/2012 8:52:17 AM ~ Von Flatern: This is a two year operation cost? 2:56 ~ 1/27/2012 8:52:33 AM ~ Von Flatern: This is just.... 3:23 ~ 1/27/2012 8:52:59 AM ~ Nicholas: Unit 6712 is the FDR They asked for 1.4 operationg funds. THe gov took it out and put it in AML Page 42 of UW budget. There is a profile of that and it says biannual request. 4:33 ~ 1/27/2012 8:54:09 AM ~ Steward I want to speak against the motion. I think is two years premature. I would support frontloading this with AML monies 5:23 ~ 1/27/2012 8:54:59 AM ~ Von Flatern: Speaking for this motion. We are just kicking this can down the road if we don't take action 5:58 ~ 1/27/2012 8:55:34 AM ~ Wallis We only have a couple of more years of AML funding. I just think it is more appropriate provides greater transparancy and support 6:50 ~ 1/27/2012 8:56:27 AM ~ Berger: Motion carries 6:59 ~ 1/27/2012 8:56:35 AM ~ Nicholas: That we set aside 25 mill. in Auditor's Office for medicaid expenses. This will be a reserve account 7:39 ~ 1/27/2012 8:57:16 AM ~ Berger: Motion Carries 7:48 ~ 1/27/2012 8:57:24 AM ~ Nicholas: That leaves us about40 mill for house and senate 8:08 ~ 1/27/2012 8:57:44 AM ~ Harshman: Wants to move AML funding into the general fund. If we recognize highways as a priority 8:54 ~ 1/27/2012 8:58:30 AM ~ Von Flatern: Against the motion Can't think of a better use for this money. Orginially it was to deal with the impact of mining There real impact now is the roads from town to town. We don't have to put the general fund under water. 10:05 ~ 1/27/2012 8:59:41 AM ~ Wallis I am speaking for the motion. It is our responsibility to take care of the roads for the rest of tiem. 10:51 ~ 1/27/2012 9:00:27 AM ~ 10:56 ~ 1/27/2012 9:00:33 AM ~ Von Flatern: Everytime we appropriate this money, it is one time money. It is a great way to 11:38 ~ 1/27/2012 9:01:14 AM ~ Berger: Motion carries 13:09 ~ 1/27/2012 9:02:45 AM ~ Nicholas: I would propose move 20 mill in and leave 30 mill. in AML That will leave 20 mill for general funds. We are not going to get all the way there. If we don't have some money for people to spend, they will start dipping into other funds. 14:46 ~ 1/27/2012 9:04:22 AM ~ Harshman: I appreciate the motion. I think the fundamental issue is we 15:25 ~ 1/27/2012 9:05:01 AM ~ Edmonds Against the motion The notion of AML dollars for highways is a bad idea 16:06 ~ 1/27/2012 9:05:42 AM ~ Hastert Mine is that the feds should take care of this. 16:36 ~ 1/27/2012 9:06:12 AM ~ Von Flatern: In favor of the motion. We lose half of that... That is our 17:04 ~ 1/27/2012 9:06:40 AM ~ Berger: Motion passed In favor raise your hand 17:30 ~ 1/27/2012 9:07:06 AM ~ Steward The number 85 mill to the good 280 mill to the LSR I want to make sure that there is a constant flow 19:17 ~ 1/27/2012 9:08:54 AM ~ Nicholas: 25 mill for the helth reserve AML 40 mill freeded up We took 40 our. We 20:27 ~ 1/27/2012 9:10:03 AM ~ Nicholas: Bill you had an idea of taking some unfunded money and 20:56 ~ 1/27/2012 9:10:32 AM ~ Mai In you budget balances once you ... if you set that stature money aside, and put some kind of conditions on it What happens if the bottom drops out it would be available. 22:25 ~ 1/27/2012 9:12:01 AM ~ Nicholas: If gas would drop another $0.75 100 mill would allow the gov..... Would that 100 mill hold us through the biannium or just the rest of the year. If it does not drop below $2.25 we should be o.K. You would be o.k. in a worse gas scenero. We will be talking later about agencies coming back with further discussions. Suppose we take out of the .... the funds out of that would be appropriated back into the general fund. We wouldn't have to come back for a special session. We won't be talking about We will be talking about a natural gas reserve account 26:29 ~ 1/27/2012 9:16:05 AM ~ Edmonds Initially is seems that we are defending ourselves against I feel better if we did come back 27:35 ~ 1/27/2012 9:17:11 AM ~ Nicholas: 150 mill reserve account, the second issue is that we have to deal for the 4 & 8% cuts, The final option would be the 10% cut, We have the language for that. These are exceptional times and we 29:20 ~ 1/27/2012 9:18:57 AM ~ Von Flatern: I like the idea and would be opposed why wouldn't 29:54 ~ 1/27/2012 9:19:30 AM ~ Nicholas: It goes back to what Rep. Edmonds said. If there are other factors besides gas prices, we need to be back in session. We made see prices soft for 10 years 31:03 ~ 1/27/2012 9:20:39 AM ~ Mai I think there is a lot of panic right now. We have been operating next to this critical balance. Reserves have continued to rise. Consumption has not risen the same amount.. There was hope in early winter, it is just the opposite now. It's still sensative Could go either way depending on weather. Looking to the future, it does not look bad. 34:39 ~ 1/27/2012 9:24:16 AM ~ Meier Ethenol is down 23% When you want kill ethenal plants, they burn natural gas. We have crated funds for a rainy day. Then we will have to raise the statutory reserves. If we really think that there is that mouch volitility. 37:06 ~ 1/27/2012 9:26:43 AM ~ Pedersen We do any type of backup First we authorize a 10% cut then tap into the reservce account. We should not name it the natural gas reserve account but just .................. account. 39:02 ~ 1/27/2012 9:28:38 AM ~ Nicholas: Here is some thoughts I we experience a 75 drop in gas. I think there is a chance we will find ourselves in Cheyenne. People will start looking at reserve accounts. Because ot the way we have set up reserve accounts, most are full. So I can make a case pretty solidly, we make the tough decisions now and they would be a lot easier in the future. We respect we are tying it to outside dollars The reason I pointed to natural gas is that is the big vairiable that most greatly effects our budget. I was surprised when I sent out info that A motion that we create 150 natural gas revenue account. Natural gas I would further mover that all executive agencie provie a plan for a 4% reduction of second year and an 8% reduction for the biannium and the plans be presented not later than Nov. 1 for each agency. Not later than July 1 for the select committee and Nov. 1 for standing committed and Dec. 1 have proposal for the 4% cuts and 8% total. 46:51 ~ 1/27/2012 9:36:27 AM ~ Meier Divide the amendment First would be the 150 mill. the second would be the rest. Lets vote on the second part first. 47:40 ~ 1/27/2012 9:37:17 AM ~ Berger: Motion carried 47:50 ~ 1/27/2012 9:37:26 AM ~ Meier We have approx. 100 mill in ......... That would ..... The 100 mill keeps us healthy in amount any kind of storm and would leave us 50 mill short at worst. 49:12 ~ 1/27/2012 9:38:49 AM ~ Mai This bring up a pretty good point. If you wanted to use a statutory reserve amount One thing you could do is prempt The second is ..... investment earnings may come in Rather that flowing in the ... it would go into the permenant fund. 50:58 ~ 1/27/2012 9:40:34 AM ~ Nicholas: That does not change my position. If we do not make those decsions we will make short term decisions based on short term panic If we... the first thing he would say is that we need to refill the RSLA We have a pretty intricate system of tips and reserves and that shuould be protected. 53:24 ~ 1/27/2012 9:43:00 AM ~ Steward Would that money be, LSRA 53:51 ~ 1/27/2012 9:43:28 AM ~ Nicholas: I think we just fill it up right now. We explain that the equivilant or more will be coming into that account. Create another line and identify it on the golden rod. 55:06 ~ 1/27/2012 9:44:43 AM ~ Steward JAC could be called for that flow to start. 55:32 ~ 1/27/2012 9:45:09 AM ~ Nicholas: That would be an unauthorized power 55:52 ~ 1/27/2012 9:45:29 AM ~ Harshman: A special session isn't free. In effect, does it effect LSRA I support it 56:53 ~ 1/27/2012 9:46:30 AM ~ Edmonds I think we would be working side by side with the different agencies 57:42 ~ 1/27/2012 9:47:18 AM ~ Meier Could be backfill the school foundation program. Frankly this is another fund that is a statutory reserve fund. Now we are saying that it is not working because of all the rules and regualtions we can't get any money our of it. 59:53 ~ 1/27/2012 9:49:29 AM ~ Nicholas: If we lost F$0.75 are we under water in the school foundation account. 1:00:24 ~ 1/27/2012 9:50:00 AM ~ Mai The bottom line is.. $075 would take it down to zero. 1:00:59 ~ 1/27/2012 9:50:35 AM ~ Nicholas:If we interrrupt the flow, we could make it. 1:01:25 ~ 1/27/2012 9:51:01 AM ~ Mai 1:01:33 ~ 1/27/2012 9:51:09 AM ~ Nicholas: We will look that 1:01:47 ~ 1/27/2012 9:51:24 AM ~ Meier If you don't want to set up this account This is the anibus account for bad times. 1:02:40 ~ 1/27/2012 9:52:16 AM ~ Nicholas: The gov. would not be involved with this account. I have confidence that the staff 1:03:16 ~ 1/27/2012 9:52:52 AM ~ Mai When we revise some meeting, not the oct. meeting This doesn't apply to the Oct. CREG. W 1:04:18 ~ 1/27/2012 9:53:55 AM ~ Nicholas: What we are looking at is a CREG between now and OCT. 1:04:47 ~ 1/27/2012 9:54:23 AM ~ Mai The stautory account is an account that the gov can not take below a certain amount. 1:05:29 ~ 1/27/2012 9:55:05 AM ~ Nicholas: We have the high revenues in November. If you look at the 1:06:22 ~ 1/27/2012 9:55:59 AM ~ Harshman: Will this account expire at the end of this biannium. 1:06:47 ~ 1/27/2012 9:56:23 AM ~ Nicholas: Yes, it would. 1:07:03 ~ 1/27/2012 9:56:40 AM ~ Mai This is a good question to ask. You are partitioning off a piece of the SLRA. 1:08:10 ~ 1/27/2012 9:57:46 AM ~ Berger: Letsl take a 15 min. break. 1:08:51 ~ 1/27/2012 10:30:44 AM ~ Berger: Communities, then AML 1:10:30 ~ 1/27/2012 10:32:22 AM ~ Mai: cleared up SFP component of section 300. Is sfp excluded from this section. 1:11:01 ~ 1/27/2012 10:32:54 AM ~ Berger: yes, yes 1:11:22 ~ 1/27/2012 10:33:15 AM ~ Tempte: Handout from LSO passed out to JAC and staff. Update to previous flowchart, new Gov rec, 50% distribution for direct distribution and for block grant 135 million, direct = 67360.00 toal consensus block gran appropriation =67640000 These allocations are following th default method 11/12 biennium method, 89% to all cities, towns and counties, 11% to harship . Under the 89%, 2/3 to cities and towns while 1/3 to counties. Under the 11% 5.5% to cities and towns and 5.5% to counties. Distributions divided in half for each fiscal year 13 and FY 14. Page 2: Direct distributions to cities and towns..a history and gov rec for FY 2013 is last column on the right. Left section is 2000 census populaton, the right section is new 2010 census population. Right section, 2010 census poulation, 2010 session FY 2012; 2011 session FYH 12, 4th column is total of col 1 and 2, last colum,n is Gov Fy 2013, referring back to first page For 11.12 the amount distrivuted for first session 80+ million. That amount is 20 million less so distributions will be accordingly less. 1:18:40 ~ 1/27/2012 10:40:32 AM ~ Meier: Actual population without adjustments? 1:18:54 ~ 1/27/2012 10:40:46 AM ~ Tempte: that is my understanding. 1:19:01 ~ 1/27/2012 10:40:53 AM ~ Meier: On harship took a factor and adjusted. 1:19:17 ~ 1/27/2012 10:41:10 AM ~ Tempte: AFter the summary pages are pags with an explanation, will walk you through it. 1:19:33 ~ 1/27/2012 10:41:26 AM ~ This is city and town summary. Page 5 for calculation for each city and twon. ?title= projected distributions under 2012 Gov's rec. Put into county category by sales tax per capita EX: Goshen=143/3717 per capital sales and use tax collection, the lowest amount so adjusted by factor of 1.5 Ex. Ft. Laramie. Next county with lowest sales and use tax per capita is Albany county which is 148.437 1:21:48 ~ 1/27/2012 10:43:40 AM ~ Harshmen: Goshend i multiplied by 1.5 then albany 1.497078 then a.25m, then Laramie is last at 1.082629. People who shop from out of town , then have lowest assessment.... 1:22:47 ~ 1/27/2012 10:44:40 AM ~ Meier: Begs redistribution formula for community colleges. Look at that at a later date. 1:23:04 ~ 1/27/2012 10:44:56 AM ~ Berger: that will be a one year study. 1:23:11 ~ 1/27/2012 10:45:03 AM ~ Meier: Which ones fell off the list, which counties and why? 1:23:29 ~ 1/27/2012 10:45:22 AM ~ Tempte: Platte county was not adjusted. As censu figures go up per capita numbers god own so that is why Albany moved to list to look lessf ortunate. Based on 2010 census, last August Platte county did not receive an adj. i believe for FY11 distribtion in AUg 2010, I believe they were . Function of change of census figure, and order of counties ranked as far as being in lower percentile. 1:25:26 ~ 1/27/2012 10:47:19 AM ~ Tempte: Transition counties. Two tiers 10% rec. adjustment of 1.5, next tier rec. 1.25. Some counties straddle so gets amount between 1.25 and 1.5. Ex: albany county, part of poulation is receiveing 1.5 while a portion of population is receiving 1.25. Same for laramie County. 1:27:19 ~ 1/27/2012 10:49:11 AM ~ Von Flatern: confused, try again? 1:27:34 ~ 1/27/2012 10:49:26 AM ~ Tempte: Populations adj. up to 20% of total municipal population. Adj pop for 20% is 76,992. 706,992 populatin receive aj. Niobra County is ...only a portin of Larmaie county is receivein 1.25 adj. 1:29:11 ~ 1/27/2012 10:51:04 AM ~ Vn Flatern: understand there is a base line, only count against 76, 992. Population over that receives a 1.0 factor. ...need to compute a cumulative municipal population. Trhough six counties with lowest per capital sale tax is ...Ex: Niobrar, entire population is receiving 1.25. Next county wiht next lowest is Laramie county, when you add laramie county to cumualtive population at Niobrara coutny, majority of Larmaie is not receiving 1.25 1:31:55 ~ 1/27/2012 10:53:47 AM ~ Tempte: moving on, c&t with populatin of less than b76,992 and more than 38,496 receives a flat amount, bring you to FY 13 direct distribution. Distribution that all cities and towns receive and does not include the hardship. ONlhy ones getting hardship are in goshen, Albany, Crook, Washakie, Big Horn counttm Niobrara, and Laramie. 1.852,400 is in proportin to population adjustment 1:34:53 ~ 1/27/2012 10:56:46 AM ~ Person: county distribution...? 1:35:01 ~ 1/27/2012 10:56:53 AM ~ Tempte: county distribution total . 15% of total. ...FY 13 direct distribution is sum of those two numbers, starting with Albany 612,133. Pg 10 of apreadsheet. Harship is deterined based on assessed valutaion of counties, most recent tax year, 24 billion, take that and multiply by the 12 mill levy. A formula is applied to determine county need 1.2 million plus flat rate plus 130 per cpaita plus 100 per capita. If total county need is more than available 12 mill then number shows up in "need in excess of resource". Example for Albany county, big horn county 12 mill is 3,168,200, need was 2.866,840. Resources greater than need so do not receive distribution. Six counties in need are Albay, Goshen Niobrara, Platte and Washakie. 1,852,400 FY 2013 harship distribtuion. 1:40:26 ~ 1/27/2012 11:02:18 AM ~ Harshman: See 50% between direct and consensus. First time cities and counties are agreeing. %sales tax leakage out of state drives a lot of it. not going to fight it. Gov Rec 1:41:29 ~ 1/27/2012 11:03:22 AM ~ Harshman: by population... 1:42:22 ~ 1/27/2012 11:04:15 AM ~ Meier: Several of the revenue streams, mill, sales and use taxes. What revenue streams that are out there that do not show up on this? Federal money, grants, etc. How much bigger would the picture be? 1:43:13 ~ 1/27/2012 11:05:06 AM ~ Tempte: cities and towns receive severance taxes, as do counties. counties receive state aid for county roadds, citis and towns rec. federal mineral royalties, 18 million. 1:43:54 ~ 1/27/2012 11:05:47 AM ~ Meier: FMR discussion that it does not come into the program the way it used to. 1:44:08 ~ 1/27/2012 11:06:01 AM ~ Tempte: Table 7 CREG reprot 18.6 million. counties do not rec. distribution of federal mineral royalties, ..situation of payments in lieu of taxes.... 1:45:01 ~ 1/27/2012 11:06:54 AM ~ Meier:: impacts profiled in any report, where do they show up? 1:45:31 ~ 1/27/2012 11:07:23 AM ~ Tempte: What type? 1:45:39 ~ 1/27/2012 11:07:31 AM ~ Meier: industrial... 1:45:50 ~ 1/27/2012 11:07:43 AM ~ Von Flatern handout listing 5 years impact of distribution, on desk last year. 1:46:05 ~ 1/27/2012 11:07:57 AM ~ Meier: fed funds, ARRA funds. 1:46:11 ~ 1/27/2012 11:08:04 AM ~ Mai: refer you to prior local studies and fiscal fact book handed out every other year. ...won't see anything from LSO except for specialized studies that are taken up, refer to latest tupdates, 1:47:12 ~ 1/27/2012 11:09:05 AM ~ Tempte" pg 11 of handout, consensus block grant distribution, righ side of flowchart, 2010 census population, most recent tax year valuation for 2011, 80% is based on poulation, then 20% on assessed vlauation, inverse per capita assessed valutin factor =20%=13,528,00 Ranking Highest is Natrona, lowest is Niobrara, ranks based on assessed valuation. middle of sheet shows assessed valuation per cpita, highest is sublette, albany is lowest, . This distribution is based on inverse of the assessed valuation pe rcapita so the 13,528,oo is distribued based upon the column that says % of county inverse ratio. Population is big driver. 1:51:36 ~ 1/27/2012 11:13:28 AM ~ BergerL Laramie county? 1:51:43 ~ 1/27/2012 11:13:35 AM ~ Tempte: Laramie county has large population but relatively low assessed value per capita, ranks 21st. 1:52:26 ~ 1/27/2012 11:14:18 AM ~ Meier: amendment to make sure no reversions from previous..staff langauge 1:52:42 ~ 1/27/2012 11:14:34 AM ~ Mai: to do that have to amend the prior sessino laws, reference those 1:52:54 ~ 1/27/2012 11:14:46 AM ~ meier: if a distribution that occured in a previous bieenium has not been sent or obligated, by the end of this biennium, then it reverts back to the GF. We distribute back to cities, towns and counties, .. if project underbid, there would be a clawback. Once the funds go out, they are there until they are spent. 1:54:21 ~ 1/27/2012 11:16:13 AM ~ Nicholas: Census block grant, ex. take x amount to build water plant in Goshen coutny, change purpose then build a swimming pool. If it is consensus group money, it might revert back to the group. 1:55:21 ~ 1/27/2012 11:17:14 AM ~ Von Flatern: Think entitiy would hurt itself if it did that. 1:55:34 ~ 1/27/2012 11:17:26 AM ~ Nicholas: On distribution date, encumber funds, up to consensus group to decide among themselves what will happen if project falls off. Fix so once alloctin occurs, funds are encumbered until spendt. 1:56:14 ~ 1/27/2012 11:18:07 AM ~ Berger: motion encumbererd until expended, Motion carries. 1:56:26 ~ 1/27/2012 11:18:18 AM ~ Hastert: Motion gov rec. 1:56:37 ~ 1/27/2012 11:18:30 AM ~ Berger: 1:56:46 ~ 1/27/2012 11:18:39 AM ~ Harshman: our intent ..one-time funding, not likely to go up, not used to add personnel or increase salaries. 1:57:18 ~ 1/27/2012 11:19:10 AM ~ Berger: motion on floor is Gov rec, carried 1:57:44 ~ 1/27/2012 11:19:36 AM ~ Harshman: motion that funds not used for personnel or inc. salaries, 1:58:01 ~ 1/27/2012 11:19:54 AM ~ Berger: 2nd on motion and vote. 1:58:12 ~ 1/27/2012 11:20:05 AM ~ Nicholas? 1:58:15 ~ 1/27/2012 11:20:07 AM ~ Tempte: for fy 13, the total amount is divided by two and allocated equally 1:58:30 ~ 1/27/2012 11:20:23 AM ~ Nicholas: For clarification, adopt that distribution is 1/2 each year 1:58:43 ~ 1/27/2012 11:20:35 AM ~ Berger: 2nd and vote, motion carried. 1:59:01 ~ 1/27/2012 11:20:53 AM ~ Tempte: Direct distributions the assumption is 1/2 in first and 1/2 in second. 2:00:11 ~ 1/27/2012 11:22:03 AM ~ Nicholas:clarification is that 1/2 of consensus distributed each year. 2:00:28 ~ 1/27/2012 11:22:20 AM ~ Von Flatern: clarification 2:00:35 ~ 1/27/2012 11:22:27 AM ~ Berger: Motion carried, go backto the formual and change it to the historical which is 605 and 40% 2:00:54 ~ 1/27/2012 11:22:46 AM ~ Nicholas: 40% to block grant and 60% to direct. 2:01:04 ~ 1/27/2012 11:22:57 AM ~ Berger: 2nd, discussion 2:01:10 ~ 1/27/2012 11:23:03 AM ~ Nicholas: In hard economic times have pushed more into direct, when times are good tend to push more in to block. Historical based upon economic times. Hard economic times more into direct, ...wanted Dean to put whole schedule together, wanted to make point there is a historical for lean years and for good years. 2:02:16 ~ 1/27/2012 11:24:09 AM ~ Peterson: Smaller counties, block grants reduced by 60/40% split. concern is money will be put into expenses that cause recurring obligations, more likely to do it with direct funds than consensus. 2:02:58 ~ 1/27/2012 11:24:50 AM ~ Meier: Trying to do more direct distribution than consensus? Barely at a level with consensus that you can do barely anything, wait two years to do anything at this level. saying to folks, save money for 2 or 3 years, then may have enough to do project. 2:03:43 ~ 1/27/2012 11:25:35 AM ~ Nicholas: agree with that statement. If change %, revist the 50/50 yearly distribution, maybe let it all flow the first year. Direct helps hardship counties more. 2:04:28 ~ 1/27/2012 11:26:20 AM ~ Berger: concur 2:04:31 ~ 1/27/2012 11:26:24 AM ~ Peterson: Ability to pass bond issue in smaller counties to pay for public projects, no longer there, costs hv increased, concerns about reducing amounts, even with carry over can not do projects. on and against the motion 2:05:24 ~ 1/27/2012 11:27:16 AM ~ Berger: Question called, division, Motion passes. 2:05:49 ~ 1/27/2012 11:27:41 AM ~ Nicholas: move to revisit issue of distribution.. direct distribution 50% each year and for consensus distributed in the first year. 2:07:00 ~ 1/27/2012 11:28:53 AM ~ Steward: ? 2:07:15 ~ 1/27/2012 11:29:07 AM ~ Nicholas: direct has wide distribution while total has narrow, language not be changed in old bill, default language, changed with respect to reversions, otherwise revist the language. 2:07:58 ~ 1/27/2012 11:29:50 AM ~ Mai: Currently in law grants for capital improvements projects. 2:08:40 ~ 1/27/2012 11:30:32 AM ~ Nicholas: is that for both? 2:08:44 ~ 1/27/2012 11:30:37 AM ~ Mai: for consensus 2:08:49 ~ 1/27/2012 11:30:41 AM ~ Nicholas: what does it say for direct? 2:08:57 ~ 1/27/2012 11:30:49 AM ~ Mai: do not think you have ever given direction. 2:09:21 ~ 1/27/2012 11:31:13 AM ~ Jones: language question 2:09:29 ~ 1/27/2012 11:31:22 AM ~ Nicholas: in gov rec, language for an expansion, 2:09:38 ~ 1/27/2012 11:31:30 AM ~ Jones: Gov in support of use of expanding captial project for major maintenance, believes it can be done with rules through state land and investment but woud support by leg. branch to broaden the language. 2:10:09 ~ 1/27/2012 11:32:02 AM ~ Harshman: Through state land and investments, rules ...large capital rolling stock, road and bridge wants to replace a crane for 30 million, not currently allowed, examined on case by case m motion 2:10:56 ~ 1/27/2012 11:32:48 AM ~ Nicholas:Motion: capital improvements and large expenditures. Still does not pick up the gov intent...fan of keeping it the way it was. restricting scope to capital projects, improve communities, builds communities, increases jobs, improving rolling stock should come out of operating dollars. 2:12:51 ~ 1/27/2012 11:34:44 AM ~ Mai: standpoint of what could occur with SLIB (state land investmetn board) In this current language, could make it a case that rolling stock is capital improvment..... 2:13:30 ~ 1/27/2012 11:35:22 AM ~ Von Flatern: open ups SLIB a little wider, in my town told rolling stock is not allowed, now interpreted the other way. 2:13:59 ~ 1/27/2012 11:35:51 AM ~ Nicholas: word capital expenditure and insert one time capital improvements which may include mobile equipment. 2:14:40 ~ 1/27/2012 11:36:32 AM ~ Steward: Some towns used money to buy street sweepers, etc. Towns with gravel roads, I worry about opening it to rolling stock..and gov...major maintenance, against the motion 2:15:34 ~ 1/27/2012 11:37:27 AM ~ Nicholas: talk to county commissioners and city officials, want to use money to displace things in operating budget, talk to neighbors, they want capital improvements. Hadthis same debate. Given opportunity, my city council will move every dollar out of their budget and use it for slaries, etc. .....captial side. 2:16:54 ~ 1/27/2012 11:38:46 AM ~ Harshman: motion, 2nd, discussion, claify that it is out of consensus block grant, all would have to agree to it. Intent is not to replace police cars, large capital items replaced every 20 or 30 years. Example a large crane or grader used for county roads. Motion is to let SLIB adopt rules to... 2:18:27 ~ 1/27/2012 11:40:19 AM ~ Von Flatern... 2:18:31 ~ 1/27/2012 11:40:24 AM ~ Harshman: of benefit to all, consensus 2:18:42 ~ 1/27/2012 11:40:34 AM ~ Nicholas: against motion, evryone has roads, fire truck, should have reserve account, restrict motion. 2:19:16 ~ 1/27/2012 11:41:08 AM ~ Berger: motion failed. 2:19:25 ~ 1/27/2012 11:41:18 AM ~ Nicholas: Gov rec as amended: Formula with 60% to direct and 40% to grant; specified the 60% goes into two years, the 40% goes in one year, specified reversionary language so funds are encumbered when distrubted and will not expire, none of funds used for personnel or salry increases. 2:20:25 ~ 1/27/2012 11:42:18 AM ~ Berger: motion carried. 2:20:33 ~ 1/27/2012 11:42:26 AM ~ Berger: Next to education with Mr. Nelson, 5 minute break. 2:21:01 ~ 1/27/2012 11:56:29 AM ~ 2:21:05 ~ 1/27/2012 11:56:33 AM ~ Nelson Matt just handed to me a revised copy of... Start on page 1 That means it was a previous means meeting Subsection B Projects that were not quite completyly funded last year 6.8 mill availlable immediately Those orginated from the 2011 budget Is now included in the back of the section 300 that is located c here is the appropridtion for this biennium those were self nominiated and have to be fully vetted through teh department. That is a total budget of $820,000 They will not come to frution Design projects We have 6.3 mill for effective immediate projects The more substative part is the34.2 mill. These were all forwarded by the select committee 2:26:14 ~ 1/27/2012 12:01:42 PM ~ Harshman: How does this reference that 2:26:30 ~ 1/27/2012 12:01:58 PM ~ Nelson In the very back. Going back to those projects on page 5 Those that are active here are funded from previous appropriations. This shows you intent. It also ranks it above any projects it also includes a project for Fremon 2 Next Compenent Level Projects 5.7 mill rational for each compenent. Page 7 Land acquisitions 15.3 mill Page 8 Page 8 1.4 mill Bottom of page 8 and top of page 9 viii Cap Con10.0 for immediated construction ending are the Carbon 1 project Page 11 c include money that was previously appropriated references a time line development provides for a process..... report timeline and when project will be compoleted This is a collobrative timeline for Natrona. Those will continue forward it con Fanning-Howey report. Absent the alternative high school Caps the enrollment at 300 strundents 2:32:56 ~ 1/27/2012 12:08:24 PM ~ Von Flatern: 2:33:04 ~ 1/27/2012 12:08:32 PM ~ Nelson I think it was built after the alternative school in Cheynne III That would allow participation in that Line 45 Would try to prohibit That would allow agmentaiton by the district. Last footnote is in paragraph IV That would be considered shared facility. 2:35:08 ~ 1/27/2012 12:10:36 PM ~ Harshman: I thought that was an alternative school. 2:35:37 ~ 1/27/2012 12:11:05 PM ~ Nelson I've never had that in there.. 2:35:57 ~ 1/27/2012 12:11:25 PM ~ Harshman: That was not a change 2:36:11 ~ 1/27/2012 12:11:39 PM ~ Nelson E applies to all captial construction projects Paragraph provides uniform.... 4 provide unnesessary delays Page 13 This is for both the cost of planning, design, 12.8 mill That forwards the unfunded projects that were forwarded by the select committee. These are presented in priority. Subsection e this is a collaborative committee process 2:38:46 ~ 1/27/2012 12:14:14 PM ~ Nicholas: I'm not sure that captured the thoughts we had. .... Those decisions would be made by what we really wanted was the board to make those decisions. If forces the districts to go out there and establish colaberative groups. We wanted them to go out and get community envolvment. In the good old days when we built schools by bond issues. A group would go to all the civic organizations and get support. You knew that the population centers would support a school in the country. What we are trying to do is force theses groups to go out and created public support. The next area of section 300 Page 14 planning design and captial construction Lines 11-15 We are going to grant the commission some flexibility and ranking the 5 year methodology 2:44:50 ~ 1/27/2012 12:20:18 PM ~ Harshman: What does that refer to. What does that refer to 2:45:19 ~ 1/27/2012 12:20:47 PM ~ Nelson Those refer to immediatly 2:45:41 ~ 1/27/2012 12:21:09 PM ~ Harshman: The real sweep in under ... 2:45:57 ~ 1/27/2012 12:21:25 PM ~ Nelson Subsecion g deposited into the common school permanent fund and keep it in the cap con account In Paragraph 1 2:46:57 ~ 1/27/2012 12:22:25 PM ~ Nicholas: Pull the golden rod out What is going to take place and not take place. Matt before we have a discussion when would that occurr. What is causeing that trip wht is the driver. 2:48:45 ~ 1/27/2012 12:24:13 PM ~ Matt We are estimationg that 2:49:16 ~ 1/27/2012 12:24:44 PM ~ Nicholas: What triggers that? 2:49:24 ~ 1/27/2012 12:24:52 PM ~ Matt It is based on a fiscal year 2:49:51 ~ 1/27/2012 12:25:19 PM ~ Nicholas: The trigger is we hold the account at 100,000. 2:50:19 ~ 1/27/2012 12:25:47 PM ~ Matt The reason is because there is an amount greater that 1,000,000. 2:51:02 ~ 1/27/2012 12:26:30 PM ~ Nicholas: What happens to the"trip" Would we restore the million or?? My motion would be that my motion would be amended that before the transfer at the end of this year that it would hold the account balance to 100 mill. Then the same thing, the second year would be the same. 2:53:39 ~ 1/27/2012 12:29:07 PM ~ Mai It gets to be such a pain trying To me it would be a lot easier if we did it the way Nelson has it set up. 2:54:33 ~ 1/27/2012 12:30:01 PM ~ Von Flatern: Now we pay 39 mill. hold the 20 mill., and then add the next 39 mill 2:55:10 ~ 1/27/2012 12:30:38 PM ~ Nicholas: Here is the problem Profile sheet that shows 42 mill, 2nd thing If you go back into the general fund I guess we could go in there one day before and move that 19 mill 2:56:38 ~ 1/27/2012 12:32:06 PM ~ Mai Where the problem comes to me is when we cross bienniums I dont really see a problem moving those at the end of.... 2:57:39 ~ 1/27/2012 12:33:07 PM ~ Hastert Is it not typical that some of thes figures tend to rise 2:58:15 ~ 1/27/2012 12:33:43 PM ~ Mai I wished it was just Crag, it is severa items.. 2:58:41 ~ 1/27/2012 12:34:09 PM ~ Hastert My understand is that we always leave the 100,000 2:59:13 ~ 1/27/2012 12:34:41 PM ~ Mai I think the part is missing is the part that brings it back up to 100,000 mill. 2:59:52 ~ 1/27/2012 12:35:20 PM ~ Harshman: The real point is .... are we really going to let that trip. The value of schools would be the $443,744,506. 3:01:28 ~ 1/27/2012 12:36:56 PM ~ Nicholas: I was wanting to create some sort of trip 3:01:59 ~ 1/27/2012 12:37:27 PM ~ Nelson Pag e 15 J 3:02:17 ~ 1/27/2012 12:37:45 PM ~ Nicholas: The way it is profiled is not the way we want it,, right 3:02:42 ~ 1/27/2012 12:38:10 PM ~ Nelson Nicholas: It is profiled today, Is that the gov's rec. Who directed that 3:03:44 ~ 1/27/2012 12:39:12 PM ~ Nicholas: Who directed that change I don't think we ever had the desire to load up that cap con accoutn Holding that account buit preventing the tip. Have to remove :h". Have the tip as profiled on the rod. 3:05:46 ~ 1/27/2012 12:41:14 PM ~ Mai In stead of being exactyl like the Golden Rod. Actually all I was trying to say is that it would be complicated. 3:06:47 ~ 1/27/2012 12:42:15 PM ~ Nicholas: What you want to say to the 19 mill. does not get ripped out. IF you 3:07:16 ~ 1/27/2012 12:42:44 PM ~ Mai You would have 60Mill and then 3:07:38 ~ 1/27/2012 12:43:06 PM ~ Nicholas: If you transer out of teh 296 3:07:53 ~ 1/27/2012 12:43:21 PM ~ Harshman: I think that is accomplished on page ..... Paragraph prevent a tipping 3:08:49 ~ 1/27/2012 12:44:17 PM ~ Nicholas: We will have 100 mill in the school facilites account. Staff development for a physical and biannial year to a level of $100 mill. 3:10:08 ~ 1/27/2012 12:45:36 PM ~ Mai We would monitor to make sure we maintain the 100,000,000 In 13 we don't want the monies go the the 13/14 year. This will be consistant with what you did this morning. That $100,000,000 will remain in place. 3:12:36 ~ 1/27/2012 12:48:04 PM ~ Nicholas: You will draft that bill 3:13:00 ~ 1/27/2012 12:48:28 PM ~ Nelson Bottom of page 15 Amount on page 16 will be the amount of 3.8 mill. 3:13:50 ~ 1/27/2012 12:49:18 PM ~ Harshman: Go back to the 3:14:18 ~ 1/27/2012 12:49:46 PM ~ Nicholas: I did not make a motion for the 3:14:56 ~ 1/27/2012 12:50:24 PM ~ Meier Through the use of the committee 3:15:33 ~ 1/27/2012 12:51:01 PM ~ Peterson Secion K Page 15 I understand the problem. 3:16:47 ~ 1/27/2012 12:52:15 PM ~ Nicholas: Nothing is stopping a community from going out for a bond. They did not go out to get public support. I would have a lot more confidence if I knew that had gone out and got support 3:19:01 ~ 1/27/2012 12:54:29 PM ~ Von Flatern: Are we setting land prices 3:19:39 ~ 1/27/2012 12:55:07 PM ~ Nelson We are setting a cap. 3:19:53 ~ 1/27/2012 12:55:21 PM ~ Harshman: I want to talk about.... These are important things. Lets push 3:20:38 ~ 1/27/2012 12:56:06 PM ~ Esquibel: This goes back to the issue When you go back to the handout...... The Davis Elementary School. 3:22:18 ~ 1/27/2012 12:57:46 PM ~ Matt: priority 21 page 13 line 23, project not funded..motion that we amended this language to was to not include these projects under cap con. Construction of a new field so they can make room for a new schol on that location. New field and trck. 3:23:18 ~ 1/27/2012 12:58:46 PM ~ Nicholas: move to a fully funded project this year? how long todesign? 3:23:32 ~ 1/27/2012 12:59:00 PM ~ Esquibel: School Board is ready to move dirt, On large hjandout, 3:23:59 ~ 1/27/2012 12:59:27 PM ~ Edmonds: If we move this to a track project, does it lose its place as a junior high projects. Two thing - move track sowe can build junior hihg. 3:24:31 ~ 1/27/2012 12:59:59 PM ~ Matt: Dept has fdefined it as a construction project. On page 8, line 7 you are appropropiating the funds to acquire the land for this project. 3:25:20 ~ 1/27/2012 1:00:48 PM ~ Nichola: leap frogging , waiting one year.. 3:25:32 ~ 1/27/2012 1:01:00 PM ~ nelson: Rep edmonds has good point that iti s looked together as one project, could ahve impact on cary jr high 3:25:56 ~ 1/27/2012 1:01:24 PM ~ Esquibel: anothr lineshows juniro high seperate from track and field project. leapfrogging, ...projects in front are not track and field, it is in wrong place. Imotion to moveth ecary master design project for 3.69 millin to ....and fund it. 3:26:49 ~ 1/27/2012 1:02:17 PM ~ Berger: 2nd, division, motioin failed. 3:27:14 ~ 1/27/2012 1:02:42 PM ~ Peterson: move to strike lines 21 on page 15 through line 9 on page 16. 3:27:41 ~ 1/27/2012 1:03:09 PM ~ Berger: 2nd,discussion,motin failed. 3:27:55 ~ 1/27/2012 1:03:23 PM ~ Nicholas: motin to adopt language as proposed by coucil. 3:28:18 ~ 1/27/2012 1:03:46 PM ~ Berger: motion carried 3:28:31 ~ 1/27/2012 1:03:59 PM ~ Nelson: Handout from LSO, Education Accountabiilty data systems, longitudinal data system, consolidation of various requests, will go through contents (a) reguritates what I just said (b) data system pg 2 (i) funding (II) position for comunity college c ommission. pg 3 (III), (iv) 300,000 to A&I, Those 4 paragrapsh constitute necessary support for the longituidinal data system, plus a little bit of money in subsection c. pg 4 (c) 500,000 workforce services, teacher labor makt work, labor mkt series of reports, provide assistance to OCIO in continuing longituidinal work with Hathaway... grant monies.. pg 4 (d) work for professinal teaching stds board, upgrading that data, making it electronic, harvesting it, take it one step further to provide for an on line teacher licensing. funding to OCI, 1.128millin for hardware and support costs to OCI, (B) 184,ooo in future to be paid by DOE ...page 6, provide 375,00 for additinoal data storage through OCI. paragraph iii, two positions perm. in the OCIO budget, remainder of proposal requries that all involved agencies cooperate with OCIO, (f) requries a report back each year over the bieeniyum, seperate out the workforce services. Amendments: Sectino 21-2-202, make sure seperated, not integratedwith work of UW 3:37:23 ~ 1/27/2012 1:12:51 PM ~ Nicholas: not with standing..can't change statute in budget bill. 3:37:39 ~ 1/27/2012 1:13:07 PM ~ nelson: up to you 3:37:44 ~ 1/27/2012 1:13:12 PM ~ Nicolas: confer with Mr. Gruver. 3:37:52 ~ 1/27/2012 1:13:20 PM ~ Nicholas. do we have ed bill coming through 3:38:06 ~ 1/27/2012 1:13:34 PM ~ nelson: yes 3:38:09 ~ 1/27/2012 1:13:37 PM ~ Nicholas: when you say not with standing , must be picked up in education bill 3:38:25 ~ 1/27/2012 1:13:53 PM ~ Nicholas: within scope? 3:38:30 ~ 1/27/2012 1:13:58 PM ~ nelson; confer, can get into ...bill . 3:38:42 ~ 1/27/2012 1:14:10 PM ~ Von Flatern: Total dollars, type, where does it reside, is there accomodations when the OCI becomes a seperate agency if it happends. 3:39:07 ~ 1/27/2012 1:14:35 PM ~ Nicholas: Dollars...select committee, concluded to get these services done at level needed done, need to be with OCIO, result of a lot of things happening, sent through mgt council audit, this is implementation of accountabiilty amoutn. Funding out of school foundation accoutn. i will make a motion to take it out of deferred federal funds. ERRA funds. 3:40:29 ~ 1/27/2012 1:15:57 PM ~ Mai: talked to Tom Rowe about ERRA, 7 million is a figment of the DOE imagination. It is 4 million, not 11 million 3:40:58 ~ 1/27/2012 1:16:26 PM ~ Nicholas: funds flexed or moved or tied up? 3:41:06 ~ 1/27/2012 1:16:34 PM ~ mai: dispute, DOE thinks the 7 got moved but there was not 7 there to be moved, had been swept to the GF. 3:41:35 ~ 1/27/2012 1:17:03 PM ~ Nicholas: swept to GF, not spent on something we do not know. 3:41:49 ~ 1/27/2012 1:17:17 PM ~ Mai: can't say 3:41:55 ~ 1/27/2012 1:17:23 PM ~ Nicholas: get a handle on the funds, spending authority, 3:42:12 ~ 1/27/2012 1:17:40 PM ~ nelson: rest of Sen Von Flaterns' question 3.3 million total; positins. 3:42:40 ~ 1/27/2012 1:18:08 PM ~ Nicholas: Move adoptin of this section, motion carried, 3:43:06 ~ 1/27/2012 1:18:34 PM ~ Berger: Local govt distribution, need to make certain we hav identical distribution and current assessment of 12 and 13. Last year we had a change, 3:44:03 ~ 1/27/2012 1:19:31 PM ~ Nicholas: use most recently completed sales tax for distributions, would not change. 2009 or 2010 3:44:22 ~ 1/27/2012 1:19:50 PM ~ Tempte: fiscal year 2011 is mot recently completetd. 3:44:35 ~ 1/27/2012 1:20:03 PM ~ Tempte: numbers used in spreadsheet 3:44:43 ~ 1/27/2012 1:20:11 PM ~ Nicholas...locked in . 3:44:50 ~ 1/27/2012 1:20:18 PM ~ Berger: 3:44:56 ~ 1/27/2012 1:20:24 PM ~ Mai: issue that the 2011, locals here wanted that the 2011 year would be used for both distributions and same assurances for the assessments...info we have aquired as of aug 2011, would apply to both years 3:45:48 ~ 1/27/2012 1:21:16 PM ~ Meier: Revenue and sales tax, locked in using the informaton we have in front of us today and no other info given during the biennium. 3:46:33 ~ 1/27/2012 1:22:01 PM ~ Mai, Tmepte: shake head yes 3:46:40 ~ 1/27/2012 1:22:08 PM ~ Berger: will be transparent. 5 minute break, come back for AML 3:46:56 ~ 1/27/2012 1:22:24 PM ~ 3:47:07 ~ 1/27/2012 1:39:25 PM ~ Esquibel: After talking to some of my collegues that we 3:47:13 ~ 1/27/2012 1:39:30 PM ~ Berger: All those in favor, please raise your right hand 3:47:54 ~ 1/27/2012 1:40:12 PM ~ Berger: I think we are ready for aml 3:48:18 ~ 1/27/2012 1:40:36 PM ~ Harshman: motion... 3:48:25 ~ 1/27/2012 1:40:42 PM ~ Mai: amount of money freed up is about 46 3:48:39 ~ 1/27/2012 1:40:57 PM ~ Harshman: Motion ; 3.5 million to academic faciites match for UW ag extension, 10 million match for arena auditorium and allow 10 million in the bonding authroity, totals 13.5; infrastructure and ...funding for university unit 7201 5 million agency 67, 10 million for engineering bldg, 6 million for a pool for the university, level 2 and 3 of a 20 millin project, 10 million for coal research which was severly cut, 1.87 million for the ozone, have heard two numbers, 250,000 to the athletic dept for a feasibility study for mens and womens ... not applying for small grant for AML funds.. under 46 million 3:51:56 ~ 1/27/2012 1:44:14 PM ~ Berger: 2nd by sen Peterson. discussion, 3:52:07 ~ 1/27/2012 1:44:25 PM ~ Steward: resist this, each one is worthy, resist all of them in one motino. 3:52:28 ~ 1/27/2012 1:44:45 PM ~ Wallis, same sentiments. soaks up th entire AML and does away with what the gov had on the plate, prefer a piece meal approach, 3:52:56 ~ 1/27/2012 1:45:14 PM ~ Von Flatern: Discuss individual, divide 8 ways and discuss. 3:53:13 ~ 1/27/2012 1:45:31 PM ~ Berger: 8 components, 8 discussions. 3:53:23 ~ 1/27/2012 1:45:40 PM ~ Nicholas: add 2 projects, coal research for 10 million, SER matching program presently 10, energy research looking for an adiitional 5 brings up to 15 million.. 3:54:21 ~ 1/27/2012 1:46:39 PM ~ BergerL what di yoyu say first? 3:54:27 ~ 1/27/2012 1:46:45 PM ~ Berger: add section 301 on adv conversion technology, 3:54:44 ~ 1/27/2012 1:47:02 PM ~ Wallis: assuming prserving intact the govs recs for gillete madison, school of energy, partnership, co2 pipeline, oil recovery reserach, natural gas, clean air model. All of these proposals are not affecting those? 3:55:48 ~ 1/27/2012 1:48:06 PM ~ Nicholas: could switch the order. can't say all the govs recs are staying. one is laramie county aquifer, which is controversial, have to fought on seperately. 3:56:31 ~ 1/27/2012 1:48:48 PM ~ Edmonds: want list of AML things. Given the gov's recs, how much is on the table. 46b million to include the gov's recs? 3:56:55 ~ 1/27/2012 1:49:13 PM ~ Harshman:My understanding is that this is money we just freed up through higheays and stem funding, does not affect gov's items, have not acted on those yet. 3:57:22 ~ 1/27/2012 1:49:40 PM ~ Nicholas; 24.1 million school of energy research, 20 million for highways, 6 million for lwildlife trust fund, Tally of 46.4 million... 3:58:02 ~ 1/27/2012 1:50:19 PM ~ Mai: smaller amount is amt overlooked for DEQ for air quality stuff, was not in gov aml list so funded with gf, you said you would deal with it when discuss aml stuff. 3:58:37 ~ 1/27/2012 1:50:54 PM ~ Meier: ARe we into a round robing, 10 new construction things, deal with rest of budgets, govs recs. 3:58:55 ~ 1/27/2012 1:51:12 PM ~ Nicholas: Dollars designed for..we have freed up this oney, minerals committee workin on projects coal research, 5 million for SER match, adv technology of 10 million so have 25 million there that minerals commitee has worked on for over a yar. If the Governor had known we would free up this money would have made a match. Suggest 25 million aside for minerals committeework product, coal, 5 million tight sands, 10 million gas to liquids, all designed to expand economy and bring in jobs. By allocation or by adopting language that minerals sent to us. Most important, is something left, talk about other projects. Do not want impression create money and thro projects we like. 4:01:58 ~ 1/27/2012 1:54:16 PM ~ Berger: I agree .very important projects. 4:02:08 ~ 1/27/2012 1:54:25 PM ~ Steward: set aside 15 million to business council for ...., fit within the context of that allocation 4:02:32 ~ 1/27/2012 1:54:50 PM ~ Nicholas: those funds for community infrastructure, diversion tech has enough controversy to live by itself, take money out, say don't go that way but already have big data centers and some IT things that are job oriented. More than 10 or 15 million dollars of development for data centers, Cheyenne, I-80 coridors, would like 25 million set aside for mineral committee projects, Adv technology dollars talk about if you liked, declare a conflict, 4:04:31 ~ 1/27/2012 1:56:49 PM ~ Wallis: like idea of money set aside for mineral committee work. Concern about gov rec, complete obliteration of carbon sequestration, ..Carbon county...election results may threaten coal industry, climate change situations, project with storage site that the researchers have come up with an alternative to using co2, to test, effectiveness. i............ 4:07:27 ~ 1/27/2012 1:59:45 PM ~ Von Flatern: Motion: deal with seperately, wish ist out there, 4:07:49 ~ 1/27/2012 2:00:07 PM ~ Berger: make certain of. 4:07:56 ~ 1/27/2012 2:00:13 PM ~ Edmonds: procedurally, big basket or how to move forward. 4:08:09 ~ 1/27/2012 2:00:27 PM ~ Esquibel: DEQ shows 45 million contracted and not spent for carbon sequ. 4:08:30 ~ 1/27/2012 2:00:48 PM ~ Mai: that is part of this list, would not be much of this money available if that was not considered part of this. Look overall state budget, fiscal profile AML funding section, box around repurposed past AML appropraitions , biggest part is carbon recapture.. Large box ..those numbers add up to the repurposed amount. That 20.4 millin from SER operations is from the repurposed funds, from original profile, 4:10:25 ~ 1/27/2012 2:02:43 PM ~ Jones: Gov message, AML reference to specific appropraitions from which those funds come. 4:11:15 ~ 1/27/2012 2:03:33 PM ~ Berger: make sure everything is on list. amednment to motion is to add SER strategic area research, advanced conversion tech grant, 4:12:44 ~ 1/27/2012 2:05:01 PM ~ Edmonds 25 million for minerals commitee was that amotion? 4:12:55 ~ 1/27/2012 2:05:13 PM ~ Nichoals: no, combinaiotn of 3 items, SER, gas to liquids 10, coal 10, motion: from those items we approve is a set of 3 projects for minerasl committe, 10 for ser, additional 5 for stategic plan, 10 for natural gas to liquids, 10 for coal. 4:14:44 ~ 1/27/2012 2:07:01 PM ~ Von Flatern: motion for division 4:14:52 ~ 1/27/2012 2:07:10 PM ~ Nicholas: go item by item 4:14:59 ~ 1/27/2012 2:07:17 PM ~ harshman: withdraw the motion. 4:15:11 ~ 1/27/2012 2:07:29 PM ~ Nicholas: approve the coal research for 10 and the SER additional 5; recommend second one for 10 for adv techn 4:15:47 ~ 1/27/2012 2:08:05 PM ~ Berger;2nd 4:15:51 ~ 1/27/2012 2:08:08 PM ~ Von Flatern: What is left on list, what is going to minerals committee orn ot, minerals committee. 4:16:08 ~ 1/27/2012 2:08:25 PM ~ Nicholas: gas to liquid of 10, 5 million additional to SER, coal research 4:17:36 ~ 1/27/2012 2:09:54 PM ~ Von Falern: take 25 million and all threewill run through minerals committee? 4:18:21 ~ 1/27/2012 2:10:39 PM ~ Nicholas: No, we have language. Direct the staff to work with the co chairs of the inerals committee to come up with the final language. Break out by project. 4:18:59 ~ 1/27/2012 2:11:17 PM ~ Meier: How do we vote on these when they go into the bill, can be divided out from the budget bill? 4:19:17 ~ 1/27/2012 2:11:34 PM ~ Nicholas: yes, each will ahve seperate section 300 4:19:28 ~ 1/27/2012 2:11:45 PM ~ Berger: had one in our hands. 4:19:33 ~ 1/27/2012 2:11:51 PM ~ Steward: 10 million for coal research, getting redirected back to carbon capture and sequestration or to... 4:20:06 ~ 1/27/2012 2:12:24 PM ~ Nicholas: Rep Wallis' efforts, ought to draft a section for that money that would provide coal research , if you wnt to direct to carbon capture project, has to have a set of deliverables prepared approved by clean coal task force and by the governor. need agreement on deliverables an vetted through the clean coal task force. 4:21:23 ~ 1/27/2012 2:13:41 PM ~ Wallis: Two seperate things. a need for value added coal research, seperately we have a need to preerve the work that has already been done on carbon capture and sequestration and moveit forward. bit of moving target. factors, research datat, EPS, Chairman Nicholas has suggested a good route to further research in value added or carbon seq and recapture and Governor could point i depending on hwat the needs really are. 4:22:56 ~ 1/27/2012 2:15:14 PM ~ Steward: Combining these two, dilutes where we are going, wait a year and see where we are going with carbon sequestration, 4:23:51 ~ 1/27/2012 2:16:09 PM ~ Nicholas: 4:23:58 ~ 1/27/2012 2:16:16 PM ~ Edmonds: agree with rep steward, coal muddied the water, motion may go down if we put coal with carbon sequestration, seperate motion, can not support if you put together. 4:24:32 ~ 1/27/2012 2:16:49 PM ~ Edmonds: keep 10 for coal without carbon seq. 4:24:57 ~ 1/27/2012 2:17:14 PM ~ NicholasLMotion 1, approve 10 millin for clean coal research to be allocate by the clean coal task force providing for clear deliverables on projects of long term importance toth coal industry. Final allocation to be approved by the Governor. 4:25:52 ~ 1/27/2012 2:18:10 PM ~ Berger: Motion made, 2nd, motion carried. 4:26:06 ~ 1/27/2012 2:18:24 PM ~ Nichoals: Motion to add 5 million to school of energy reseources energy partnerhsip matching funds 4:26:30 ~ 1/27/2012 2:18:48 PM ~ Berger: motion carried 4:26:36 ~ 1/27/2012 2:18:54 PM ~ nicholas: advanced ..grant for 10 million 4:26:52 ~ 1/27/2012 2:19:09 PM ~ Berger: motion carried and Nicholas conflit 4:27:06 ~ 1/27/2012 2:19:23 PM ~ Meier:motion to add 5 milliono for infrastruction for LRDP steam pipe 4:27:56 ~ 1/27/2012 2:20:14 PM ~ Harshman: adequate money in gov's letter, is in his rec. encourage not to vote for it. 4:28:23 ~ 1/27/2012 2:20:40 PM ~ Von Flatern: ask y ou to vote for it, requested more than the gov rec. vacate lewis street, infrastructure on campus 4:28:42 ~ 1/27/2012 2:21:00 PM ~ Berger: motion to add 5 million for LRDP; division, failed. 4:29:12 ~ 1/27/2012 2:21:30 PM ~ Harshman: Motion 1.87 for ozone 4:29:43 ~ 1/27/2012 2:22:01 PM ~ Jones: 1.856 million 4:29:53 ~ 1/27/2012 2:22:11 PM ~ Nicholas: DEQ 4:30:00 ~ 1/27/2012 2:22:18 PM ~ Jones 1,856,624 4:30:19 ~ 1/27/2012 2:22:36 PM ~ Berger: motion carried 4:30:34 ~ 1/27/2012 2:22:51 PM ~ Harshman: 3.5 million page 27 in agency 67 book UW facility in Sheridan consolidation of school, matched with state funds, 4:31:35 ~ 1/27/2012 2:23:53 PM ~ Berger: implemented by 2013 for a 4 yr program 4:31:48 ~ 1/27/2012 2:24:06 PM ~ Berger: motino carried 4:31:56 ~ 1/27/2012 2:24:14 PM ~ Harshman:athletics matching account, page 28 and 29, arena renovation project, first safety issues, remodeling. Motion for 10 million in matching funds to be matched an ability for university to bond 10 million so leverage 30 million. Bond 4:32:44 ~ 1/27/2012 2:25:02 PM ~ Berger: effective immediately? 4:33:02 ~ 1/27/2012 2:25:20 PM ~ Edmonds: in our previous motions we hve spent 35 million? 4:33:17 ~ 1/27/2012 2:25:35 PM ~ Wallis, have 16.... 4:33:34 ~ 1/27/2012 2:25:52 PM ~ Mai: about 16 left. 4:33:41 ~ 1/27/2012 2:25:58 PM ~ Meier: Do we have to spend every last red nickel that we have ... may want to carry some over. 4:34:45 ~ 1/27/2012 2:27:03 PM ~ Von Flatern: agreewith senator meier, different priorities in Jan, cutting other budgets, project can wait, not helpign with infrastructure, higher need for that than new buildings. 4:35:28 ~ 1/27/2012 2:27:46 PM ~ Edmonds: good opportunity, still leaves 6 million on table. We are leveragin 30 millin off ofthe 10 4:35:54 ~ 1/27/2012 2:28:11 PM ~ Steward: we can not bank the money coming frm AML. importatnt to spend it..encumber it. 4:36:18 ~ 1/27/2012 2:28:36 PM ~ Von Flatern: you can hold on to it, fear that congress could... 4:36:35 ~ 1/27/2012 2:28:53 PM ~ Wallis: AML funds, have to encumber them with a project, only way to draw down is to put it for aproject, why it cant be used for a trust fund. 4:37:03 ~ 1/27/2012 2:29:21 PM ~ Von Faltern: does nto have to be encumbered, just does not have to be saved, we need to build to be paid, do not have to encumber 4:37:26 ~ 1/27/2012 2:29:44 PM ~ Berger: 10 million for arean AA. chair in doubt. motion passed 4:37:57 ~ 1/27/2012 2:30:15 PM ~ Nicholas: last motion to reinstate 6 million for the wil life trust fund 4:38:12 ~ 1/27/2012 2:30:30 PM ~ Berger: motion carried. 4:38:20 ~ 1/27/2012 2:30:38 PM ~ Wallis: propose an amedment concerning the natural gas filling stations. 4:38:40 ~ 1/27/2012 2:30:57 PM ~ Nicholas: go through lsit one at a time. 4:38:49 ~ 1/27/2012 2:31:06 PM ~ Wallis, dealing with AML, 4:38:55 ~ 1/27/2012 2:31:13 PM ~ Nicholas: gov recs , go back to sheet. Did SER operation, concur with gove rec on 10 millino, queston on project is it partnerhsip or expansion 4:39:48 ~ 1/27/2012 2:32:06 PM ~ Jones: can't answer, 4:39:54 ~ 1/27/2012 2:32:12 PM ~ nicholas: assume partnership, gov rec Governor's Rec. Adopted; SER energy partnerhsip matching funds, added 5, gov rec of 10, motion carried, natural gas project , 4:40:34 ~ 1/27/2012 2:32:51 PM ~ Wallis: delete 1 millin from natural gas and add tocarbon squestration for 2 million. 4:40:50 ~ 1/27/2012 2:33:07 PM ~ Nicholas: in opposition to it., moving vehicles to natural gas ia a high proprity, UW gets low rankings comapred to other universities which use natural gas, need oversight from Gov. UW will put in fence, other communities make it so public can use. Good project, not a UW project, state project 4:42:41 ~ 1/27/2012 2:34:59 PM ~ Berger: Motion failed. 4:42:47 ~ 1/27/2012 2:35:05 PM ~ Nicholas: 1 million gov rec modified, oversight control of project will be a joint effort with UW facility and A&I such that the faciilty, if possible, will be constructed by Wyoming firsm, and be available to WYDOT, UW, school facilities and access allowed for private parties to purchase fuel with a credit card. 4:43:51 ~ 1/27/2012 2:36:09 PM ~ Edmonds: resist previous motion, not with removal but where it is placed. Private sector dirves consumers, thinks it is ill placed, reminds me of fed projects that have cost the public a whole lot of money. 4:44:48 ~ 1/27/2012 2:37:06 PM ~ Wallis: like diretion you are moving, consider a slight amendment , focus on more of a private enterprise, state faciliating a private enterprise, I would support, ti 4:45:21 ~ 1/27/2012 2:37:39 PM ~ Nicholas: firendlyu amendment that UW would move forward with a privat partnership. 4:45:38 ~ 1/27/2012 2:37:55 PM ~ Steward: friendly amendment, really a 1.8 millin project, UW testimony condition funds on a matching. 4:46:14 ~ 1/27/2012 2:38:32 PM ~ Nicholas: discourage amendment, UW will try to find a aprtner, if they can't 4:47:00 ~ 1/27/2012 2:39:17 PM ~ Berger: motion carried 4:47:05 ~ 1/27/2012 2:39:22 PM ~ Edmonds: Stewards amendment included? 4:47:18 ~ 1/27/2012 2:39:36 PM ~ Berger; no 4:47:22 ~ 1/27/2012 2:39:39 PM ~ Nicholas: co2 pipeline 2 million Governor's Rec. Adopted;, carbon sequestratonf or 1 million Governor's Rec. Adopted; gov rec on engineering design,Governor's Rec. Adopted; gov rec on campbell county regional wter project, Governor's Rec. Adopted; DEQ orphan sites, ozone monitoring. for 3.675 .. 4:48:39 ~ 1/27/2012 2:40:57 PM ~ Peterson: was it a combination, l 4:48:48 ~ 1/27/2012 2:41:06 PM ~ mai: look at DEQ handouts 4:48:54 ~ 1/27/2012 2:41:11 PM ~ nicholas: 1.85 plus 3.675 4:49:02 ~ 1/27/2012 2:41:19 PM ~ Mai: the 1.8 was overlooked so gov funded out of GF, in past par tof aml 4:49:28 ~ 1/27/2012 2:41:46 PM ~ Nichoals3.675 for DEQ Governor's Rec. Adopted; move highway funds changed to . 4:49:53 ~ 1/27/2012 2:42:11 PM ~ Von Flatern: GF and AML funds, still have 100 million, motion to reduce.. 4:50:11 ~ 1/27/2012 2:42:29 PM ~ Nicholas: reduce 4:50:21 ~ 1/27/2012 2:42:39 PM ~ Von Faltern: 30 ? 4:50:30 ~ 1/27/2012 2:42:48 PM ~ Nicholas: 70 millin GF and 30 AML 4:50:42 ~ 1/27/2012 2:42:59 PM ~ Edmonds: previously passed 20 million GF and 30 million AML 4:50:57 ~ 1/27/2012 2:43:15 PM ~ Nicholas: calrified that 50 million is reduced to 30 million, 4:51:14 ~ 1/27/2012 2:43:31 PM ~ Berger: was done earlier. 4:51:22 ~ 1/27/2012 2:43:39 PM ~ Nicholas: ok. will mark with pen. 4:51:39 ~ 1/27/2012 2:43:57 PM ~ Berger: have covered all of AML funding gov list 4:51:51 ~ 1/27/2012 2:44:09 PM ~ Mai: good 4:52:49 ~ 1/27/2012 2:45:06 PM ~ Berger: ? 4:52:54 ~ 1/27/2012 2:45:12 PM ~ mai: got to give us authority to adjust the prior appropraitons that total up to ... 127950154 = total amount 4:53:34 ~ 1/27/2012 2:45:52 PM ~ Nicholas: Coal project passed ourself, SER partnerhsip Gov rec and language, gas to liquieds or adv technology, most recent draft by co hcairs of minerals with changes proposed in last fe wdays; ozone monitoring does nt requ language, academic facility in sheridan, match, budgetary language: 10/10/10 arena, budgetary languagae, approve modification, willife trust defined, make sure we contineu language allowing the University to swap uot amounts to pull these monies down and swap... motion 4:55:26 ~ 1/27/2012 2:47:44 PM ~ Petersn: left out two projects. 4:55:35 ~ 1/27/2012 2:47:52 PM ~ Berger: Motion carried. Bill Mai, direction, 4:56:00 ~ 1/27/2012 2:48:18 PM ~ Mai: di you delete those amendments 4:56:08 ~ 1/27/2012 2:48:26 PM ~ Berger: no, just went over language. 4:56:16 ~ 1/27/2012 2:48:33 PM ~ Bergr: Pool is next on list. 4:56:28 ~ 1/27/2012 2:48:46 PM ~ Harshman: Are we done with AML, so discussion in round robin of GF, other issues, voted down infrastructure, engineering. 4:57:01 ~ 1/27/2012 2:49:18 PM ~ Berger: Next on cap con GF. 4:57:12 ~ 1/27/2012 2:49:29 PM ~ 4:58:00 ~ 1/27/2012 2:50:18 PM ~ Berger: Don't forget this when we wrap up 4:59:08 ~ 1/27/2012 2:51:26 PM ~ Harshman: About 20 mill in General FUnd If we dip below that 4:59:44 ~ 1/27/2012 2:52:02 PM ~ Mai If you go below zero you have to find another sourse 5:00:23 ~ 1/27/2012 2:52:40 PM ~ Berger: 5:00:46 ~ 1/27/2012 2:53:04 PM ~ Nicholas: Start at page 12 5:01:15 ~ 1/27/2012 2:53:33 PM ~ Berger: I thought we ...Division 006 7001Governor's Rec. - Motion Carried; 7101 Governor's Rec. - Motion Carried; 7301 done; 7401 Governor's Rec. - Motion Carried; All units done from 7601 on page 28 to 7101 on page 133 Page 135 057 Community College Commission 7001 Governor's Rec.as corrected - Motion Carried; 7101 Governor's Rec. - Motion Carried; 7501 7601 7701 7801 7901 7 State Lands & Investments 7001 Governor's Rec. - Motion Carried; 067 University of Wyoming 7001 15 mill 5:07:37 ~ 1/27/2012 2:59:55 PM ~ Steward This is priority #1 It does seem that we have the money to do this. I'm not convinced Madam Chair There was some testimony that I come across some information that the renovations may not 5:09:18 ~ 1/27/2012 3:01:36 PM ~ Nicholas: There was 32 mill for this You have to I think for the community of large I urge you to reject the motion. 5:10:20 ~ 1/27/2012 3:02:38 PM ~ 5:10:26 ~ 1/27/2012 3:02:43 PM ~ Berger: Motion failed 5:10:57 ~ 1/27/2012 3:03:15 PM ~ Meier If one of the major goals is to get it accredited. Why not put some aside and then continue to add to it. 5:12:01 ~ 1/27/2012 3:04:18 PM ~ Harshman: I don't know how these items are matched. Maybe there is support, then go build your other half. 5:12:52 ~ 1/27/2012 3:05:09 PM ~ Harshman: I'll amend the amendment and to change that to 15 mill. 5:13:41 ~ 1/27/2012 3:05:58 PM ~ Von Flatern: Is there a reversion time. 5:13:58 ~ 1/27/2012 3:06:16 PM ~ Nicholas: Just to make sure it si 50/50 just say it is a dollar match 5:14:25 ~ 1/27/2012 3:06:43 PM ~ Steward If there are some immediate needs, I would be concerned with the money settting there too long. 5:15:31 ~ 1/27/2012 3:07:49 PM ~ Meier Maybe in a few months we will have 22 mill. I think what we are saying 5:16:17 ~ 1/27/2012 3:08:34 PM ~ Peterson I have always been person that is of the take the money and run type of person. But I would like to see about other matchjing funds 5:17:16 ~ 1/27/2012 3:09:34 PM ~ Berger: Motion carred 7001 Governor's Rec As Amended. - Motion Carried; 7101 Governor's Rec. - Motion Carried; 5:17:42 ~ 1/27/2012 3:10:00 PM ~ Nicholas: That is part of the ultimate 5:17:55 ~ 1/27/2012 3:10:12 PM ~ Berger: motion carried 5:18:21 ~ 1/27/2012 3:10:39 PM ~ Harshman: motion to amend effectively immdiately Berger: 5:18:56 ~ 1/27/2012 3:11:13 PM ~ Berger: 7201 Governor's Rec. - Motion Carried; 7301 Bonding Authority. 7401 Governor's Rec. - Motion Carried; 5:19:51 ~ 1/27/2012 3:12:08 PM ~ Nicholas: With respect of.. The gov's rec as amended and immidate 5:20:34 ~ 1/27/2012 3:12:51 PM ~ Mai 5:20:47 ~ 1/27/2012 3:13:04 PM ~ Nicholas: The appropriation is not in effect until the fiscal year. 5:21:19 ~ 1/27/2012 3:13:37 PM ~ Berger: 7001 Gov Rec as corrected m.c. 7101 Governor's Rec. - Motion Carried; 7201 Gov. Rec. as correct M.c. 5:21:57 ~ 1/27/2012 3:14:15 PM ~ Nicholas: Further move that UW present a plan to use WY bond councel 5:22:21 ~ 1/27/2012 3:14:39 PM ~ Pedersen Use footnote Have UW run plan through JAC 5:23:01 ~ 1/27/2012 3:15:18 PM ~ Harshman: When you go into the wildcatter suites, that is a pretty neat deal 5:23:36 ~ 1/27/2012 3:15:53 PM ~ Meier 5:23:47 ~ 1/27/2012 3:16:05 PM ~ Berger: Motion carries 7301 Governor's Rec As Corrected - Motion Carried; Engineering 5:24:12 ~ 1/27/2012 3:16:29 PM ~ Nicholas: Take it to 1.25 mmillB 5:24:30 ~ 1/27/2012 3:16:47 PM ~ Berger: Motion carried 7501 Governor's Rec. - Motion Carried; 7601 Governor's Rec. - Motion Carried; 7701 Governor's Rec as corrected. - Motion Carried; 7801 Gov's rec as corrrected m.c. 7901 Governor's Rec. - Motion Carried; 7A01 Govs Rec as correcte m.c. 7C01 Governor's Rec. - Motion Carried; 7E01, 7F01, 7G01 Governor's Rec. - Motion Carried; 5:25:02 ~ 1/27/2012 3:17:20 PM ~ Nicholas: The 50 mill addressed everything but 5:25:25 ~ 1/27/2012 3:17:43 PM ~ Jones Reiterate Letter #7 is reflective of the Gov's position 5:25:53 ~ 1/27/2012 3:18:10 PM ~ Harshman: That leaves 20 mill No more than 15 mill leave for the Laramie acqua 5:26:50 ~ 1/27/2012 3:19:07 PM ~ Von Flatern: That we are doing here is buying surface land, we have been cutting budgets The biggest one is I-80 There is parts of this land will never be developed. We haven't talked about the We haven't talked about who will manage it. This is set up with a lot of "ifs". The city of Laramie hasn't done anything about If Cheyenne wants a rec center, Rock Springs wants a few shed, 5:30:29 ~ 1/27/2012 3:22:47 PM ~ Nicholas: I want to correct a lot of misinformation. A firend of mine was brought into this We don't know if ....I don't have a conflict with this. He has prepared to develope this. They have passed a bond issure. Has has required. With respect to . The develpment will create problems. If you subdivide this, you will have pollution. UW has just as much concern as anyone. I'm dissappointed that we are putting 100 million into the Gillette water district. I believe that this is the most important item that Laramie has had. This land will be made available for ever. If you walk through half acre, half of the photo's have this property in the view shed. People come here for the outdoors That access has been restrcited We have been put 170 million in for faculity retention. It probably is the most important 5:38:34 ~ 1/27/2012 3:30:52 PM ~ Meier We have had water problems in Goshen County also. The option that is available to Laramie,was not available to us. We need to make sure dont' have to do mediation in the futer. This isn't a slam dunk deal. There are tests tah 5:40:43 ~ 1/27/2012 3:33:00 PM ~ Von Flatern: I opogize 5:40:58 ~ 1/27/2012 3:33:15 PM ~ Steward What is the status of the mineral rights and existing leases 5:41:26 ~ 1/27/2012 3:33:44 PM ~ Nicholas: They have a 1031 exchange in the offering. This is an area that is a part of the checker board. Hence Anadarko owns half, the feds the other half 5:43:01 ~ 1/27/2012 3:35:19 PM ~ Steward How would the water rights of the Motolif ranch effect that 5:43:34 ~ 1/27/2012 3:35:52 PM ~ Nicholas: Those water rights are for the future. 5:44:17 ~ 1/27/2012 3:36:35 PM ~ Wallis I just want to make sure that what we are talking about dollars that have been put in fot the University of Laramie. It is completely subserving the system. Do we take a UW dollars 5:45:48 ~ 1/27/2012 3:38:05 PM ~ Meier I think there is a little confusing wat the water commission can do and not do. 5:46:24 ~ 1/27/2012 3:38:42 PM ~ Esquibel: There is nothing more important than our recources. It seems very simailar to the situcation in Cheyenne when the landfill was built. 5:47:31 ~ 1/27/2012 3:39:49 PM ~ Nicholas: Curt Gowdey park We have been. This is not an unusual 5:48:06 ~ 1/27/2012 3:40:24 PM ~ Harshman: My real idea is that it requires a match. My thing is looking out for UW. I think it is a great opportunity. 5:48:59 ~ 1/27/2012 3:41:17 PM ~ Peterson. This problem is not new. I like local participation. We could look at 5:49:47 ~ 1/27/2012 3:42:05 PM ~ Harshman I would consider that a friendly ammendment 5:50:23 ~ 1/27/2012 3:42:40 PM ~ Harshman: Not more than 15 milll any of these unused funds will simply revert. 5:51:26 ~ 1/27/2012 3:43:44 PM ~ Berger: Motion carried 6:02:04 ~ 1/27/2012 3:59:19 PM ~ 6:02:39 ~ 1/27/2012 3:59:54 PM ~ recording was off, Nicholas made a motion to add language to the last amendment, 6:02:58 ~ 1/27/2012 4:00:13 PM ~ Berger: motion carried. 6:03:03 ~ 1/27/2012 4:00:18 PM ~ Mai: adapt language: Section 300 budget balances language; anything left in bottom line in excess of zero transfer to LSA; language inthe past in 2010 permananet funds, common school reerve cct , higher ed res. acct, hathawya res acct, nothing allowed to be ..out ofthose. 6:04:51 ~ 1/27/2012 4:02:06 PM ~ Mai: section 301 exemption of tips out of ..accts unti end of biennium, borrowing authority from school fund investments, 100 m in borrowing authrioty for DOT cash flow; borrowing authroity for Hathaway, section 304 carryover authority, any carryover language addressed will include in secton 304; section 305 fund balance defintions ; 306 Medicatid..307 employee benefits, retire insurancwe benfits, 308 fire prevention and collections of ees, 309 executive flex 10% within an agency, 5% between an agency 310 is judiciary flex, 311 is premption of transfer in 300 series with exemption of DOH for reasons stated; in past exempted DOH from certain aspects, give them ability to flex in 100 series, 312 position freeze 313 is AWAC positionfreeze, 314 is vacant positon; ....most vacant positions I saw on list from A&I, ..251 positions were older than 24 months so not much out there. 6:09:03 ~ 1/27/2012 4:06:19 PM ~ Nicholas: Attention less on vacancies and more on ....4%, institutional freeze, policy of vacancies closely looked at. 6:09:39 ~ 1/27/2012 4:06:54 PM ~ Mai; strike that one, 315 .budget reduction authority, 316 supreme court req. to submit budgets, follow same practices, 317 IT communications, CIO actions, try to strike that. 6:11:17 ~ 1/27/2012 4:08:32 PM ~ Nichoals: what did we do with the videoconferencing? 6:11:31 ~ 1/27/2012 4:08:46 PM ~ Jones: UW: eliminated the funding and would address in a section 300 6:11:53 ~ 1/27/2012 4:09:09 PM ~ Nicholas: funding eliminated for WIN funding. 6:12:05 ~ 1/27/2012 4:09:20 PM ~ Jones: do not recall it being tied to WIN, eliminated funding would address in section 300 6:12:24 ~ 1/27/2012 4:09:39 PM ~ Mai: Hold the gov rec, existing dollars in auditors be released, consult with OCIO, will draft a section 300; 318 computer leasing, strike that; 319 major maintenance smae format; 320 AML funding, lot of direction there; Everything else from 2010 is taken care of. Think we are covered. If those section 300's are okay, will put them in and adapt language. 6:14:27 ~ 1/27/2012 4:11:42 PM ~ Pedersen: move that section 300 Niobrara ground water....I move that the UW college of ag and natural resources shall establish a ground water testing ...conditions and terms, 1, 2 annual testing 3. parameters of water testing ..4. UW contract with an independent EPA certified lab %: results maintained in a secure data base, available to DEQ and wy oil and gas conversation 6; annual report Provide 1.8 million for period ending June...effective immediately. People having trouble with DEQ, ..EPA. Brings in an independent thrid part. Brought by industry, concerned about water testing, put together with UW and constituents, 6:18:16 ~ 1/27/2012 4:15:31 PM ~ Berger: Discussion? 6:18:25 ~ 1/27/2012 4:15:40 PM ~ Meier: Chain of custody, volunter program, who will take the samples? by conservation district personnel, ran like a TMDL prgram, lot of experience, have collected from streams, can collect out of well as easily, wells in townships. Doing 3 years, should not need it every year, should have a cost share from private landowners. do need a base line, will protect industry from false claims and establish where our water is. 6:20:04 ~ 1/27/2012 4:17:19 PM ~ Nicholas: Already have network with conservation district, need permission to get on peoples land to take it, issue with respect to cost, People may volunteer their wells and pay for it. Encourage a more mature developed plan, set up a program administered by , multiple counties , Niobrara play, out of Governors national ..; manpower work by conservation. See to get funding by going to conservation district, have matching funds. Governor's Natural resource policy... think you can get costs down to nothing. Do need coordinator, use UW to extent you ant. have a cadre of folks paid to do. 6:23:02 ~ 1/27/2012 4:20:17 PM ~ Wallis: Process in place, certain responsibility falls on industry to monitor wells before and after development. All of our ranch wells are tested once a year by a third party ind. lab, do not know if it is a req from ... or part of our agreement. Resources there and may not be a need for fundign. 6:24:38 ~ 1/27/2012 4:21:53 PM ~ Pedersen: Reason for bringing it are folks near where a lot of houses are, no trust in industry, no trust in state because they get their money from minerals, with public funding have transparency, entire block ara reported not just one home. open to the public. much is available, it is citizens concern 6:26:34 ~ 1/27/2012 4:23:49 PM ~ Berger: motion fails. 6:26:48 ~ 1/27/2012 4:24:03 PM ~ Steward: In 07 appropriated AML dollars for county carbon road, dollars will expire, 6:27:27 ~ 1/27/2012 4:24:43 PM ~ Berger: motion 6:27:36 ~ 1/27/2012 4:24:51 PM ~ harshman: i move that A&I economic division work with DOE and ...cost analysis of converting state bus fleet to natural gas. 6:28:16 ~ 1/27/2012 4:25:31 PM ~ Berger: Motino passed 6:28:27 ~ 1/27/2012 4:25:42 PM ~ harshman: Budget folks, next years supplemental budget and 13/14 biennial go to zero based budget on 200 and 900 series. 6:29:13 ~ 1/27/2012 4:26:28 PM ~ Berger: friendly amendment of 600 series 6:29:22 ~ 1/27/2012 4:26:37 PM ~ harhsman: friendly amendment 6:29:27 ~ 1/27/2012 4:26:42 PM ~ Berger; motion carried 6:29:32 ~ 1/27/2012 4:26:47 PM ~ hsarshaman: Pay raises and tuition, 6:29:42 ~ 1/27/2012 4:26:57 PM ~ Nicholas: do in round robin. 6:29:55 ~ 1/27/2012 4:27:10 PM ~ Berger: Round Robin 6:30:04 ~ 1/27/2012 4:27:19 PM ~ Berger: motion to open 1,2,3,4,5 6:30:55 ~ 1/27/2012 4:28:10 PM ~ Steward: motin to open 5, language to rq. audit to do full audit on DOE. 6:31:24 ~ 1/27/2012 4:28:39 PM ~ Nicholas: do it in dept of audit 6:31:31 ~ 1/27/2012 4:28:46 PM ~ Berger: 6,7,8,9,10,11,14,15,20,21, 6:31:57 ~ 1/27/2012 4:29:12 PM ~ Steward: motion to opne up agency 21 dept of audit, 2nd, 6:32:18 ~ 1/27/2012 4:29:33 PM ~ Berger: motion crried, agency is open. 6:32:27 ~ 1/27/2012 4:29:42 PM ~ Steward: move for dept of audit to performa full audit on DOE in the next years, based on the testimony we have had in the last three weeks, confident we have added language , apprpriate 6:33:04 ~ 1/27/2012 4:30:19 PM ~ Berger: 2nd, no discussion, fails 6:33:25 ~ 1/27/2012 4:30:40 PM ~ Esquibel: This agency open, revenue problem, training , page 13, priority 3 $20,963 6:34:22 ~ 1/27/2012 4:31:37 PM ~ Berger: 2nd, no discussion, motion carried. motion to close carried. 6:34:44 ~ 1/27/2012 4:31:59 PM ~ Berger Agency 23, 24, 6:34:52 ~ 1/27/2012 4:32:07 PM ~ Meier: floods at Glendo, 6:35:40 ~ 1/27/2012 4:32:55 PM ~ Berger: motion to open state parks, 2nd, 6:35:53 ~ 1/27/2012 4:33:08 PM ~ Meier: look at earmarking funds in the business ready community for state parks, 6:36:15 ~ 1/27/2012 4:33:30 PM ~ Berger: motion to close passed 6:36:21 ~ 1/27/2012 4:33:36 PM ~ Berger 27,29,31,32,37,39,40,41,42,44,45,48,49,51,53,55, community colleges. 6:37:18 ~ 1/27/2012 4:34:33 PM ~ Harshman: AGency 57 motin to open 6:37:32 ~ 1/27/2012 4:34:48 PM ~ Berger: motin to open carried 6:37:45 ~ 1/27/2012 4:35:00 PM ~ Harshman: voted to keep salaries even, reduce GF appropriatin dollar for dolalr for nay tuition and mandatory fees inc until June... 6:38:24 ~ 1/27/2012 4:35:39 PM ~ Berger: opened agency 6:38:52 ~ 1/27/2012 4:36:08 PM ~ nicholas: issue too complicated, fees inc, tuition already scheduled and approved, agree with philosophy, restrict to staff, part of gov's role, colleges do look for guidance. 6:39:50 ~ 1/27/2012 4:37:05 PM ~ Von Flatern: on and against the motion; fees and tuition may already be scheduled. do not think weshould step in there. 6:40:18 ~ 1/27/2012 4:37:33 PM ~ Bergr: motion failed 6:40:23 ~ 1/27/2012 4:37:38 PM ~ Walis: revisit funding for actual enrollment growth, state aid page 28, 6:41:02 ~ 1/27/2012 4:38:17 PM ~ Berger; adjusted at ... gov letter adj rate at 8 million which failed, deleting the exceptoin. Currently they hae 188 million. pg 33 health insurance included, 6:41:47 ~ 1/27/2012 4:39:02 PM ~ Wallis: Based on gov rec ont top of page 29, approval of 14 million for actual enrollment growth funding, we zeroed it out. 6:42:13 ~ 1/27/2012 4:39:28 PM ~ Berger: yes 6:42:17 ~ 1/27/2012 4:39:32 PM ~ Wallis: my understanding that the funding provided for the colleges in the last biennium, that 8.3 million. I would like to restore 8.3 million for enrollment growth funding, which would hold communiyt colelges exactly level. 6:43:11 ~ 1/27/2012 4:40:26 PM ~ Berger: 2nd, 6:43:19 ~ 1/27/2012 4:40:34 PM ~ Harshman: growth issue 187 million, this budget 188, spaking against 6:43:43 ~ 1/27/2012 4:40:58 PM ~ Nicholas: want to understand assertion, look at profile sheet on page 33, 2.14, took out health ins. which was 38 million, which is 176, now getting 188 plus 38, which is 226 so they are getting more by 10 millino. 6:44:56 ~ 1/27/2012 4:42:11 PM ~ Wallis: My motin is dealing with priority #1, funding for enrollment growth, asked for 22 million. Gov rec 14.9 which we then zeroed out. asking to put back 8.3 million for actual enrollmetn growth. 6:45:56 ~ 1/27/2012 4:43:11 PM ~ Nicholas: costs...analysis was surrogate of , which was credit hours delivered. Most facilites can handle more students under their fixed costs, 6:46:32 ~ 1/27/2012 4:43:47 PM ~ Wallis: Reason for bringing forward is info from our college which has grown 45%, 100 new students. our ctions will result ina 2 millin dolalr decrease, laying people off, lsoing educators we need. 6:47:26 ~ 1/27/2012 4:44:41 PM ~ Nicholas: ..paying for them now. A&I, the 214 included health insurance and base budget does not include it so budget has gone up. True? 6:47:57 ~ 1/27/2012 4:45:12 PM ~ Jones: The comparable number to the 214 in the budget is combo of std buget on page 33 and page 36, 226,878651. 6:48:29 ~ 1/27/2012 4:45:44 PM ~ Nicholas: This budget is inc. from last biennium? 6:48:40 ~ 1/27/2012 4:45:55 PM ~ Jones: correct 6:48:43 ~ 1/27/2012 4:45:58 PM ~ Nicholas: used that money to hire faculty last biennium, same mney ... 6:48:57 ~ 1/27/2012 4:46:13 PM ~ Jones: ..correct if ...page 28, calculation for enrollment growth for last biennium was 15.3 million, for funding growth in current bieenium, falls out of std becuase it is one time funding. 6:49:41 ~ 1/27/2012 4:46:56 PM ~ Nicholas: recalc every year. What are they operating on this year. Std budget plus another maount we approved in a different category. 6:50:18 ~ 1/27/2012 4:47:33 PM ~ Jones: enrollment is funded ... 6:50:27 ~ 1/27/2012 4:47:42 PM ~ Nicholas: enrollment growth delivered lsast biennium, 8.3 m would that hold them harmless. 6:50:53 ~ 1/27/2012 4:48:08 PM ~ Jones: recalculate from base year, excep req on page 28, gov original rec in 2011 supplemental session added 3.4, we biennialized to 6.8 million, in rec at top of page 29 so rec rduction of , provided gov letter to reduce a little under 8 millin, fixed 6:52:54 ~ 1/27/2012 4:50:09 PM ~ Mai: page 27 that is the difference in your std budget.. similar to 8.3 6:53:29 ~ 1/27/2012 4:50:44 PM ~ Jones: total biennial was 216 in the unit of state aid. just shy of 217 million approved through both sessions in current biennium; in 11/12 6:54:09 ~ 1/27/2012 4:51:24 PM ~ Nicholas: how much now? 6:54:14 ~ 1/27/2012 4:51:29 PM ~ Jones: yes 6:54:21 ~ 1/27/2012 4:51:36 PM ~ Mai: 6:54:40 ~ 1/27/2012 4:51:55 PM ~ Berger: 226 million. up by 9 million 6:54:47 ~ 1/27/2012 4:52:02 PM ~ 6:54:57 ~ 1/27/2012 4:52:12 PM ~ Harshman last ws 213 now is 226, you approved the std in state aid and incorporate the ins component is inc of 9 million. 6:55:32 ~ 1/27/2012 4:52:47 PM ~ Nicholas: Their formaula, if start backfilling .... 6:55:49 ~ 1/27/2012 4:53:04 PM ~ Brger: 6:55:54 ~ 1/27/2012 4:53:09 PM ~ Wallis: if what lyou are telling me is we have appropriated 9 millino more dollars this go around than last go around, colleges have seen that much of an inc. and it is available, inclined to withdraw amendment. If I am jeopardizing teachers, will... 6:56:51 ~ 1/27/2012 4:54:06 PM ~ Jones: Context of 13/14 info is growht in std budgt, health ins. retirement comp, that is what you are seeing built into the 226. The 217 included all funding you included in the current bieenium so it included the enrollment growth. they submit exception requests. 6:57:49 ~ 1/27/2012 4:55:04 PM ~ Wallis: so the inc is not available to pay for enrollmetn growth or is? 6:58:02 ~ 1/27/2012 4:55:17 PM ~ Jones: not identicalt o the 15 millin incl in the current bieenium. Your are looking at growth in the std budget 6:58:24 ~ 1/27/2012 4:55:39 PM ~ Berger: std budget growth influenced by retirement issues. 6:58:43 ~ 1/27/2012 4:55:58 PM ~ Jones:::biennialized 6:58:52 ~ 1/27/2012 4:56:07 PM ~ Berger: question called; motin failed. 6:59:02 ~ 1/27/2012 4:56:17 PM ~ Peterson: interim study on community colleges, look at it, get a handle. 7 college presidents on communit college commission ......add to interim topic list, 7:00:41 ~ 1/27/2012 4:57:56 PM ~ Harshman: motion for any tuition fee inc for the purpose of grantin pay increses will reduce state aid. Hathaway scholarship , state aid goes up, tuition and fees go up, value of hathaway and the dolalr goes down. As soon as we denied pay inc. it was in paper for tuition and fee increases. 7:01:49 ~ 1/27/2012 4:59:04 PM ~ Berger: division, motion failed. 7:02:30 ~ 1/27/2012 4:59:45 PM ~ Berger: Agency 60, 63, 67,66, UW 7:02:57 ~ 1/27/2012 5:00:12 PM ~ Peterson: feasibiilty study open up agency 67 todiscuss that. 7:03:18 ~ 1/27/2012 5:00:33 PM ~ Berger: motion opened. 7:03:28 ~ 1/27/2012 5:00:43 PM ~ Peterson, mens baseball and womens softball, feasibility study, athletic directors recommendation. 7:03:58 ~ 1/27/2012 5:01:13 PM ~ Berger, 2nd, no discussion, motin passed. 7:04:24 ~ 1/27/2012 5:01:39 PM ~ Harshman: gov letter on the 20 millin, 15 million, other things could be used for infrastructure, want to add the swimming pool as part of a study. 7:05:06 ~ 1/27/2012 5:02:21 PM ~ Berger: 2nd, no discussion, motin carried. motion to close 67 carried 7:05:26 ~ 1/27/2012 5:02:41 PM ~ Berger: 69,70,73,80,81,85, pened 7:05:57 ~ 1/27/2012 5:03:12 PM ~ 7:06:04 ~ 1/27/2012 5:03:19 PM ~ Nicholas: boat access throught parks, 1 millino 7:06:19 ~ 1/27/2012 5:03:34 PM ~ Berger: motion carried. agency closed 7:06:24 ~ 1/27/2012 5:03:40 PM ~ Berger 7:06:38 ~ 1/27/2012 5:03:53 PM ~ Berger: judicial branch motin to open 2nd 7:06:48 ~ 1/27/2012 5:04:03 PM ~ Nicholas: move to delete the authorization for the 1.2 million salary increases. 7:07:05 ~ 1/27/2012 5:04:20 PM ~ Berger: 7:07:11 ~ 1/27/2012 5:04:26 PM ~ Meier: hope we realize vote from yesterday 7:07:23 ~ 1/27/2012 5:04:38 PM ~ Berger: motin carried. Division, 8 to 4 motion carried, motino to close judicail carried. 7:07:57 ~ 1/27/2012 5:05:12 PM ~ Berger, 103, 151, 160 7:08:16 ~ 1/27/2012 5:05:31 PM ~ Harhsman: move to open 15a victim advocate. 7:08:43 ~ 1/27/2012 5:05:58 PM ~ Berger: agency opened. 7:08:50 ~ 1/27/2012 5:06:05 PM ~ Nicholas: urge support 7:09:13 ~ 1/27/2012 5:06:28 PM ~ Berger: motion passed , passed closed 7:10:00 ~ 1/27/2012 5:07:15 PM ~ Berger: Agency 167, 205, 211, 220, 270. 7:10:36 ~ 1/27/2012 5:07:51 PM ~