File name: JACSupplementalBudget2011-2012_20110120_082706.dcr
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26 ~ 1/20/2011 9:02:20 AM ~ Thursday January 20, 2010 Mark up tomorrow... Nicholas: Contractor Issuee: Dr. Rose: taught construction engineering....draft language...will get language out for review today..add to budget tomorrow...
1:55 ~ 1/20/2011 9:03:48 AM ~ Berger: Capital complex..How much leased space in Cheyenne?
2:12 ~ 1/20/2011 9:04:06 AM ~ Cathcart: Information is here
2:36 ~ 1/20/2011 9:04:30 AM ~ Berger: get back to us
2:41 ~ 1/20/2011 9:04:35 AM ~ Cathcart: 35,000 ...90,000 sq ft is ...funding of sq footage
3:14 ~ 1/20/2011 9:05:08 AM ~ Meier: Substandard office space..miller bldg....
3:45 ~ 1/20/2011 9:05:39 AM ~ Cathcart: Defining substandard is difficult.. Miller bldg accomodated what they were doing.. Work environment...not as picky...
4:47 ~ 1/20/2011 9:06:41 AM ~ Meier: How big will next new office be? Issues with design..heads up wanted
5:08 ~ 1/20/2011 9:07:02 AM ~ Cathcart: 130,000 GF employees..no problem with over building... Issues in capital..more space in capital...move some LSO jobs or executive branch offices..
6:18 ~ 1/20/2011 9:08:11 AM ~ Harshman: 22,000 sq ft on Hathway bldg....
6:34 ~ 1/20/2011 9:08:28 AM ~ Nicholas...
6:39 ~ 1/20/2011 9:08:33 AM ~ Harshaman: ST. Mary's site?
6:51 ~ 1/20/2011 9:08:45 AM ~ Cathcart: 22,000 sq ft vacated space on Hathaway..completely vacated by April or May recommendation is to renovate..make available to dept of education..,,looking for space, want to locate in Cheyenne...some #'s not in lease space.
7:51 ~ 1/20/2011 9:09:45 AM ~ Harshman: 29 folks from Laramie do not need more space: 22,000 out of needed space?
8:19 ~ 1/20/2011 9:10:12 AM ~ NIcholas:
8:22 ~ 1/20/2011 9:10:16 AM ~ Cathcart...Safeway 22,000 sq ft...two agencies will fit on 5th floor of Hathaway
8:45 ~ 1/20/2011 9:10:39 AM ~ Nicholas: Agencies commanding the space..go to you...space requirements for new employees? ....built joint labs to move some agencies into that space..what role do we get?
9:35 ~ 1/20/2011 9:11:29 AM ~ Cathcart: You have the ultimate space..guy controlling the bucks
9:51 ~ 1/20/2011 9:11:45 AM ~ Nicholas: except in your contingency fund
10:01 ~ 1/20/2011 9:11:54 AM ~ Cathcart: suppose..not with regard to who goes in that space.. Renovation will be quite a lot..cost exceed SBC contingency fund could pop for.
10:42 ~ 1/20/2011 9:12:36 AM ~ NIcholas: Justification for joint lab to create vacant space for GF agency Can change that if agree...not for other agencies to want to expand
11:11 ~ 1/20/2011 9:13:05 AM ~ Cathcart: Have not personally spoken with state superintendent Moved family services out of basement..moving Dept of Ed into that space..no decision on who will occupy space..lot of people requesting
11:55 ~ 1/20/2011 9:13:49 AM ~ Nicholas: Dept of Ed remodeling has to go to you to remodel
12:16 ~ 1/20/2011 9:14:10 AM ~ Cathcart..then I have to go to you Nicholas:.. Cathcart 1.5 million , 3 million refill, total renovation on 22,000 sq ft. Building commission won't want to spend entire amoutn To renovate, come to you for money
13:10 ~ 1/20/2011 9:15:03 AM ~ Nicholas: St. Mary's out of session, fund not designed to make modifications that could come through the plannign process
13:37 ~ 1/20/2011 9:15:31 AM ~ Cathcart: State building commission cont - fund level 1 and level 2..can expediate projects. level 3 come to legislature Property acquisition and emergency facility issues.. Commission can vote for other facility issues as deemed appropriate
14:47 ~ 1/20/2011 9:16:41 AM ~ Nicholas: Ever allowed... Cathcart..have not..if agencies have money in flex budget, through general services, e ex: new carpet, we do not pay for it
15:31 ~ 1/20/2011 9:17:25 AM ~ Nicholas: major maintenance..moving walls..
15:42 ~ 1/20/2011 9:17:35 AM ~ Cathcart: Other contingency ...entire cap con request that given year ..5% was 10 million. that funded the flex contingency..available to fund shortfalls in projects ...finish overbudget ... Old days had to come to you. to finish project Casper events center
17:09 ~ 1/20/2011 9:19:03 AM ~ Nicholas: approved project Cathcart: funded approved shortfall out of flex
17:31 ~ 1/20/2011 9:19:25 AM ~ Meier: Best use of Hathaway space...
17:43 ~ 1/20/2011 9:19:37 AM ~ Cathcart: Highest and best use would be office space Nicholas: Have you moved forward to prepare it for an agency or ...next year...
18:21 ~ 1/20/2011 9:20:14 AM ~ Cathcart: Two properties vacated.. Roger/Old miller building and 5th floor of Hathaway. No interest by policy makers to move forward for dollars for renovation 22,000 ... if cost was short could cover balance
19:45 ~ 1/20/2011 9:21:39 AM ~ Meier: Safeway building...money for hathaway?
20:04 ~ 1/20/2011 9:21:58 AM ~ Cathcart: Both 22,000 sq ft..if you give us 5 million ..will not spend it just because we have it
20:31 ~ 1/20/2011 9:22:25 AM ~ Nicholas: Recommendation of agency?
20:40 ~ 1/20/2011 9:22:34 AM ~ Cathcart: Community College Commission and Wyo Public Defenders High leases in downtown building.
21:06 ~ 1/20/2011 9:23:00 AM ~ Nicholas: Move safeway build rec to Hathaway bldg
21:23 ~ 1/20/2011 9:23:17 AM ~ Harshman: St. Mary site
21:32 ~ 1/20/2011 9:23:25 AM ~ Nicholas: no plan for it
21:42 ~ 1/20/2011 9:23:36 AM ~ Cathcart: Direction given to acquire good property contiguous to the capital.. Only city block across street from capital May remain parking lot for 20 years...no plan at this point
22:31 ~ 1/20/2011 9:24:25 AM ~ Nicholas: More resouces available 8 years ago ...remember being forced to acquire when needed and the price escalated and could not acquire UW demonstrated property North of Lewis..appraised value..no more..over 50 years will get it families sell it at appriased without realator We have leased space..where would you put office bldg...100 yr view..use today's dollars ST. Mary's third parties wanted to drive price up..had land they wanted..got decent price Safeway was unanticipated opportunityh If fund 2 yrs earlier could have acquired bldg for much less price than building. It is JAC view ..use property within 100 years..
25:17 ~ 1/20/2011 9:27:11 AM ~ Harshman: ......
25:33 ~ 1/20/2011 9:27:27 AM ~ Cathcart: no current plan
25:40 ~ 1/20/2011 9:27:34 AM ~ Berger: Current assessment of all of lease space? can look at plan of moving agencies..has group looked at it that the design works best for this group?
26:23 ~ 1/20/2011 9:28:16 AM ~ Cathcart: 100,000 sq ft and move agency all together is more beneficial than moving 5 agencies into it with 20,000 sq ft each..study likely fit...moved Dept. of Corrections..space left over went to Livestock Board, had been in high lease, good fit...good vehicle access..do evaluate space and try to put best fit into space
28:05 ~ 1/20/2011 9:29:59 AM ~ Nicholas: appropriations
28:12 ~ 1/20/2011 9:30:06 AM ~ Cathcart: 1st 4 items are A & I.. have heard from agencies on other requests..
28:45 ~ 1/20/2011 9:30:38 AM ~ Meier: Safeway building from college commission or public defenders Nicholas: Meier: perfect fit for community college to be co located with dept of Ed; Public defenders with different agency
29:49 ~ 1/20/2011 9:31:43 AM ~ Cathcart: Public Defender in capital complex and close to attorney general
30:06 ~ 1/20/2011 9:32:00 AM ~ Cathcart: 1. Safeway renovation ; initially approved, gov denied 2. SBC contingency original 7.8 million, come back to refill, asked for 6 , you gave us half, balance 1.6 mill..additional fund put us at 4.6 3+ dollars request 3. 5% flex contingency...10.2 million 3+ milliion for second year.. 4. Safeway demo level 1 and 2 ..40 million for asbestos abatement.......demolish bldg..
32:11 ~ 1/20/2011 9:34:05 AM ~ Nicholas: Funding allow for removal of houses or sell them
32:22 ~ 1/20/2011 9:34:16 AM ~ CathcartL Offered homes to general public if they would move them...historic structures...3 or 4 taken by citizens...demolished and cleaned lot..natural grass seeding..clean...homes have been condemned for a number of years
33:13 ~ 1/20/2011 9:35:07 AM ~ Nicholas: alley vacated?
33:21 ~ 1/20/2011 9:35:14 AM ~ Cathcart: safeway had alley vacated and stretch of street....decide to build can vacate Thomes avenue
33:48 ~ 1/20/2011 9:35:42 AM ~ Nicholas: Thomes been vacated?
33:59 ~ 1/20/2011 9:35:53 AM ~ Cathcart: correct. Military Department: 1. Afton Armory ;; 7.8 million for renovation and rehabilitation..two mgrs and military went there..waste of money to rehabilitate that armory..land locked our recommendation to state building commission ...125,000 rec. to acquire land for consideration of new armory..get 75% match with federal..no federal match for rehabilitation of old..
35:44 ~ 1/20/2011 9:37:38 AM ~ Nicholas: 125,000 if appropriated, who makes decision?
35:57 ~ 1/20/2011 9:37:51 AM ~ Cathcart: military will keep us in the loop. Mays ..meeting with county commissioners
36:24 ~ 1/20/2011 9:38:18 AM ~ Nicholas: Guernsey property ..footnote or authority:
36:46 ~ 1/20/2011 9:38:40 AM ~ Cathcart...authority to release funds....note not consistent with legislative intent two specific properties...1.4 million less than approprited..now want to buy more with the balance...denied.. go ask JAC ....money should revert ..issue in budget
37:47 ~ 1/20/2011 9:39:41 AM ~ Nicholas: acquisition authority to you or to military with your oversight
38:03 ~ 1/20/2011 9:39:57 AM ~ Cathcart: Military had authority with your oversight
38:14 ~ 1/20/2011 9:40:08 AM ~ Bill: Footnoted added last time : gave them the negotiation authority,
38:43 ~ 1/20/2011 9:40:37 AM ~ Nicholas: did that to stretch our dollars, agencies not good negotiatiors.
38:59 ~ 1/20/2011 9:40:53 AM ~ Cathcart: Military cont: 2. This would fund Phase 1 & 2 studies to run untilites throughout the camp for what the master plan looks like
41:28 ~ 1/20/2011 9:43:22 AM ~ Nicholas When we move those utilities, do we pay for that or the feds.
41:56 ~ 1/20/2011 9:43:50 AM ~ Cathcart Probably our dollars
42:11 ~ 1/20/2011 9:44:05 AM ~ Nicholas Is there a way to get our Phase I & II mones back.
42:49 ~ 1/20/2011 9:44:43 AM ~ Berger My understanding was that they could not
44:03 ~ 1/20/2011 9:45:57 AM ~ Nicholas Cathcarts impression is that we have to spend the money and
44:34 ~ 1/20/2011 9:46:28 AM ~ Von Flatern Funding is based on land and current infrastructure.
45:03 ~ 1/20/2011 9:46:57 AM ~ Nicholas At some point we need to look at the total money we are putting in and getting back.
45:33 ~ 1/20/2011 9:47:27 AM ~ Cathcart The problem is, no one is taking responsibility for it. This doesn't make a new bridge out of it. It does upgrade it and make it usable and safe.
46:45 ~ 1/20/2011 9:48:39 AM ~ Steward Is this a county road, state road
47:00 ~ 1/20/2011 9:48:54 AM ~ Steward No one is claiming that road. Shouldn't there be an easement for that road.
48:15 ~ 1/20/2011 9:50:09 AM ~ Cathcart We could take control of it and restrict access to just the cemetary
48:54 ~ 1/20/2011 9:50:48 AM ~ Meier I think Steward has a good point. I think if we going to spend a million, we need to get some clarification.
49:54 ~ 1/20/2011 9:51:48 AM ~ Cathcart It has been determined that it is a private road that we could secure.
51:01 ~ 1/20/2011 9:52:55 AM ~ Meier I think we should consider finding our
51:45 ~ 1/20/2011 9:53:39 AM ~ Peterson Is that the only access to the residential subdivision
52:41 ~ 1/20/2011 9:54:35 AM ~ Hastert Who plows the road?
52:56 ~ 1/20/2011 9:54:50 AM ~ Chathcart It is a mixed bag of maintenance.
53:27 ~ 1/20/2011 9:55:21 AM ~ Steward Is there any talk of getting an easement.
54:01 ~ 1/20/2011 9:55:55 AM ~ Nicholas Get a Google map
54:14 ~ 1/20/2011 9:56:08 AM ~ Cathcart. This is a military for six unheated garages Next item Military has 6.8 Mill. remaining from the 8.0 million. They wouldlike to negotiate for up to 5 parcels.
56:15 ~ 1/20/2011 9:58:08 AM ~ Nicholas Is there a priority list to acuire these properties. Impact Funds We will come back at 12:30.