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3 ~ 1/20/2011 4:27:05 PM ~ 012011 pm2 LSO: Discussion of CREG..continuation from this morning.. Bill: Towns ...section 335 in budget bill...amts distributed on third tier of boxes...% spelled out in Paragraph A.. lengthy section A
1:32 ~ 1/20/2011 4:28:34 PM ~ Nicholoas: ? on allocation diagram Next item
1:50 ~ 1/20/2011 4:28:52 PM ~ Bill: My list: 1. Locals, highways, LRSA split of SPRA money - gov rec 2. Medicaid set asides --gov letter... RF funding..section 300.. 3. Niobrara oil play oil money 4. Data centers _ gov letter 5. Vet's memorial Park..gov 6. Rockwell bldg 7. AML - UW Handout good place to start 8. Air service enhancement 9. Trust accounts 10. Gov transition money 100,000 11. Dave ... section 300 DEQ is double funded chapter 47 and 97 in 2010 session laws nearly identical amounts and purposes...attorneys went to conform bills..that piece of funding was omitted..need to remove that..talking to DEQ..has not spent the money..
6:35 ~ 1/20/2011 4:33:37 PM ~ VonFlatern" Has it reverted yet? Bill: 335,000 ..has not reverted...deappropriated
7:09 ~ 1/20/2011 4:34:11 PM ~ Bill: 12. Gov letter 1, follow up gov letter on compensation 13. Cap Con Conversion..adjust language from 2010 .. does not apply retroactively, can fix 14. Water 4 money in account we do not have...deal with it in budget bill or seperate legislation 15. UW Federal Mineral Royalties and appropriations of those FMR amounts Dave Gruber: proposed legislation to clean up..can do a quick fix ..money somewhere in this budget to spend it..authorization for bond repayment..using some for plant operation. issue back..
9:39 ~ 1/20/2011 4:36:41 PM ~ Berger: UW federal money expending..Can we do it both ways?
10:20 ~ 1/20/2011 4:37:23 PM ~ Bill: FMR easy to address..add a line item in 06 budget, .....
10:48 ~ 1/20/2011 4:37:51 PM ~ Nicholas: Go through budget item by item, leave capital construction last, do AML, UW exhibits first..takes us into Governor's letters...Chairman Berger tomorrow.. AML as one Cap Con as two city, towns and counties as three fund flows as four Go through five as the governor's letters...may get picked up in the funds flow
12:08 ~ 1/20/2011 4:39:10 PM ~ Harshman: UW in cap con
12:17 ~ 1/20/2011 4:39:19 PM ~ Nicholas: AML first...hard to approve cap con if you agree or disagree with the AML flow.. can move around ..make adjustments Start going through Takes majority to pass amendment..
13:12 ~ 1/20/2011 4:40:14 PM ~ Bill: Majority of the entire committee...
13:25 ~ 1/20/2011 4:40:28 PM ~ Berger: 7 to pass
13:33 ~ 1/20/2011 4:40:36 PM ~ Nicholas:: Go through the budget agency by agency..if you want to make changes to gov recs do it as we go along..issue if you want to make amendment in agency nto here, will pick it up at the end....list of agnecy numbers
14:50 ~ 1/20/2011 4:41:52 PM ~ Bill: Did I miss anything?
15:00 ~ 1/20/2011 4:42:02 PM ~ Nicholas: will move quickly..if you see a note that needs addressed, say time out, alwyas slow down if anyone has any issues... Start with first agency 006 A & I .. will come back to this...recs on governor's budget.... Even though each agency has cap con will skip over cap con Open up the 006...pg 8 ...is a summary of the agency's request..format by all
16:59 ~ 1/20/2011 4:44:01 PM ~ Steward Governor's Meads recommendations? Nicholas: yes... Begin with
17:48 ~ 1/20/2011 4:44:50 PM ~ Wallis: I did not make notes where Gov Freudenthals's differs from Meads.
18:10 ~ 1/20/2011 4:45:13 PM ~ Nicholas: If not as written, will change it..
18:26 ~ 1/20/2011 4:45:28 PM ~ Bill: Gov letter 6 ..starting point
19:43 ~ 1/20/2011 4:46:46 PM ~ Nicholos: Answer to cargo vans...
21:24 ~ 1/20/2011 4:48:27 PM ~ Sorting through paperwork...
22:24 ~ 1/20/2011 4:49:26 PM ~ Nciholas: A & I budget...motion on floor is governor's recs..
23:02 ~ 1/20/2011 4:50:04 PM ~ Bill: Clarification: Pg 12 is the page we will take the vote on because that is at the finest level of detial
23:24 ~ 1/20/2011 4:50:27 PM ~ Nicholas: Motion adopted
23:48 ~ 1/20/2011 4:50:50 PM ~ Meier: Issue ..should we give flexibility to purchase cargo van, not just sedan Nicholas: Have flexibiity Bill: believe correct
24:24 ~ 1/20/2011 4:51:27 PM ~ Nicholas: want footnote directing them?
24:33 ~ 1/20/2011 4:51:36 PM ~ Meier Nicholas Nicholas
24:43 ~ 1/20/2011 4:51:46 PM ~ Nicholas: Unit 5033 Rockwell Building Maintenance... Gov's recommendation is zero.. and recommendation for sale Testimony to appropraite mnoey for maintenance 266788
25:49 ~ 1/20/2011 4:52:51 PM ~ Harshman: Motion Nicholas: Motion adopted.. Sale issue Harshman: Not to sell unless we make substantial profit, verbalize.. Nicholas: Direct the SBC to entertain any offers to sell building above x dollars. Berger 7.9 Nicholas: Flip it..by setting the policy..no sale entertained unless proceeds.. Harshman: Motion not to entertain the sale of the building Nicholas: Can they sell the blg without our authorization. Edmond: testimony that they can NIcholas: 2nd motion: Do you agree with the gov's recommendation to sell the building? Motion failed..rejected governor's recommendation Meier: In order to say entertain offers over 12Million. Nicholas: Verbalize to the governor that if someone offers 12 or 13 million we will consider it. Berger: Micromanage Nicholas: Don't mind micromanagement Harshman:.. Nicholas: Governor knows.. legislative liason is here Time out.....Bill confers with his LSO staff...
30:39 ~ 1/20/2011 4:57:41 PM ~ Bill: Recollection of footnote ..directed A & I not to dispose of properties..travel and tourism center off of I25..looking for that language Nicholas: Can't dispose without appraisal, ...unless extraordinary offer can put in footnote Edmond: Do not want to tie hands of the state Nicholas: Taxpayers bought the buildings..same discussion as the jets..put it in policy..did want to set the policy...we understand we covered very nice bldg..not our practice to do so without an extraordinary price..makes us look extravagent..people don't know price paid.. easily put a footnote in... sale price not the market price...appraisal price might be below rebuilding costs how .. to articulate policy Harshman: ...did I make the motion not to sell Meier: not comfortable, can buy and sell any piece of property they want..demonstrated want to sell at cost to build a sq footage.. Nicholas: Ex Officio... competitive bid process.. Meier: notification.. Nicholas: will get it Bill: LSO attends state building commission meetings... Nicholas: Confidence of elected officials
36:13 ~ 1/20/2011 5:03:16 PM ~ Nicholas: Comfortable Utilities: Unit 3056 on page 16..300,000 for utility adjustment Govs recs adopted
36:58 ~ 1/20/2011 5:04:00 PM ~ Nicholas: Human Resources Division: all GF...Gov Mead changed recommendation If you go to the cheat sheet ....
38:39 ~ 1/20/2011 5:05:42 PM ~ Cox I have a break out if you like.
39:05 ~ 1/20/2011 5:06:07 PM ~ Nicholas 3.1 for bonus, 2.7 mill for insur. premiums
39:38 ~ 1/20/2011 5:06:40 PM ~ Mie That represents 10129505 3132000 is for bonus's That's the market adjustment
40:37 ~ 1/20/2011 5:07:40 PM ~ Cox The total increase is the 12 mil.
41:10 ~ 1/20/2011 5:08:12 PM ~ Harshman Change the
41:21 ~ 1/20/2011 5:08:24 PM ~ Nicholas Motion to remove bonus compensation. Motion has been adopted. Motion now on the floor as amended.
42:34 ~ 1/20/2011 5:09:37 PM ~ Meier Motion to put in 1.6 mill
43:02 ~ 1/20/2011 5:10:05 PM ~ Nicholas Reinstate bonus's at $500 there is a second
43:36 ~ 1/20/2011 5:10:39 PM ~ Pedersen They haven't even had a valuation in 7 years
44:26 ~ 1/20/2011 5:11:28 PM ~ Nicholas You can fund but require a new study
45:04 ~ 1/20/2011 5:12:06 PM ~ Meier It will get the program started and I don't see that much antamosity for $500 bonuses
45:48 ~ 1/20/2011 5:12:50 PM ~ Wallis To get Bang for you Buck., you need larger bonuses
46:41 ~ 1/20/2011 5:13:43 PM ~ Peterson There is no reason to do the evaluations without money for bonuses.
47:45 ~ 1/20/2011 5:14:47 PM ~ Meier We have been running around this for decades. I feel we have to put
48:23 ~ 1/20/2011 5:15:26 PM ~ Hastert I think we should do it and shome sort of system in place..
49:26 ~ 1/20/2011 5:16:29 PM ~ Hastern I would be comfortable with that.
49:47 ~ 1/20/2011 5:16:49 PM ~ Nicholas Lets vote on the 1665
50:49 ~ 1/20/2011 5:17:51 PM ~ Harshman Lets just put the 1665 in the I think We haven't had a raise in the last couple of years
52:18 ~ 1/20/2011 5:19:21 PM ~ Wallis I would speak against this We are already taking a significant from bringing them 85% to 90% Fed $85,000, State $65,000 Private sector $30,000
54:26 ~ 1/20/2011 5:21:29 PM ~ Von Flatern You are problem correct
54:58 ~ 1/20/2011 5:22:01 PM ~ Peterson There is a chart in there We have some employees at $26,000 I
56:23 ~ 1/20/2011 5:23:26 PM ~ Berger I would vote against this amendment but would put forward
56:47 ~ 1/20/2011 5:23:49 PM ~ Meier I cation against going above 90% because other states will look at us and then we will look at it.
58:01 ~ 1/20/2011 5:25:03 PM ~ Nicholas We need to recoganize We have a group that are very compentent people. Accuracy is 100% The average fed is X State is X private is X THe purpose of the Hay study shows that State employees are underpaid. The Hay Study is accurate. It is based on the market.
1:01:13 ~ 1/20/2011 5:28:15 PM ~ Harshman For the first time we are comparing private apples to state apples. Studies in the past If we can do 91% or 92% I think we need to keep pushing for it.
1:02:53 ~ 1/20/2011 5:29:55 PM ~ Nicholas That motion has been adopted.
1:03:20 ~ 1/20/2011 5:30:22 PM ~ Mie All this money is for market increase
1:04:06 ~ 1/20/2011 5:31:09 PM ~ Nicholas That closes the 3501 unit. The next item is the 4014 Unit IT Adopted Pioneer Safewy renovation Everything is Cap Con
1:06:04 ~ 1/20/2011 5:33:06 PM ~ Berger The amount on Page 22 do we need to make a recomendation to the school foundation
1:06:45 ~ 1/20/2011 5:33:47 PM ~ Nicholas: Cap con closed 007 Wyo. Military department
1:07:20 ~ 1/20/2011 5:34:22 PM ~ Nicholas: pg 12...04 05 unit for challenge program..gov rec no change Meier: Richard go over that..flex a bunch of general funds to make it work..should be using school foundation funds Nicholas: Dollars in this budget ... Bill: S5 is school foundation money..lever for federal funds Nicholas: sufficient funds in budget to operate the program Meier: fund switches to make it work..will be GF Nicholas: not that way give us summary Richard Richard: Staff did an analysis of actual numbers, B11 flex authority..should be sufficient funding based on vacancys to move money to the challenge program..and school foundation funding ...market percent changed by % ..enough moeny to access so they do not have to change the program....
1:11:35 ~ 1/20/2011 5:38:37 PM ~ Meier: yes
1:11:45 ~ 1/20/2011 5:38:47 PM ~ Nciholas: reflected in Handout 56 Meier: depends on the committee..comfortable with GF not converting..more appropriate to use school foundation funds than GF..program will continue Bill: Budget analyist...covered with 72000 Nicholas: gov rec ..motion adopted
1:13:16 ~ 1/20/2011 5:40:18 PM ~ fNicholas: Vet services pg 18 unit 0503..appropriation for vet service expansion, regional office support, maintenance supply Gov rec increase appropriation Adopted
1:14:05 ~ 1/20/2011 5:41:07 PM ~ Nicholas: Oregon Trail vet cemetary pg 22..unit ..gov rec of 50,000 increase..no doubling of amount in biennial budge Adopted
1:14:42 ~ 1/20/2011 5:41:44 PM ~ Nicholas: takes us to cap con Motion is to close agency 007 Hastert: at what point can I get an explanation of how 72000 can cover the Challenge Fund Program
1:15:22 ~ 1/20/2011 5:42:24 PM ~ Nicholas: Fund of money to put salaries above 90% ...A& I ..a portion of that will be made available to increase salaries at the challenge program so all the representation is that they will see a portion of those dollars Hastert: additional coming from other parts of their budget Nicholas: Correct..accumulate money is available for operation dollars Richard: operational salaries dollars.. Bill: Laura Anderson can talk to Senator Hastert.. Have flex authority within the agency Hastert: Nothing in writing..conversation did not seem like it was supported Motion to close 007 Adotped
1:17:42 ~ 1/20/2011 5:44:45 PM ~ Nicholas: Office of Public Defenders 0008 1. Pg 10 unit 101...gov rec to inc. appropriation and inc. positions Motion adopted Close 008 motion adopted
1:18:32 ~ 1/20/2011 5:45:34 PM ~ Nicholas: Agriculture...pg 12 unit 303 228,000 denied by gov Gov rec adopted Untit 304 gov rec for 23,00 and new object code Adopted
1:19:46 ~ 1/20/2011 5:46:48 PM ~ Nicholas: pg 19, unit 401 agency request 200,000 in grants and aids Gov approved, switched object code, nonrecurring dollars Adopted Unit insect management..object series changed.. rec 2.66 million adopted state fair operations: unit 801 72, 000 on unit 801.. President of the Senate would like us to consider putting into the budget 250,000 to be available as a matching fund amount...100 year celebration.. Senator meier would you make a motion? l
1:22:30 ~ 1/20/2011 5:49:32 PM ~ Meier: Motion Von Flatern: tied it if something should pass...
1:23:09 ~ 1/20/2011 5:50:12 PM ~ Berger: repeat the motion? Meier: put in 250,000 which requires a match Nicholas: 250,000 ties to bill Von Flatern: No money if bill does not pass...when it hits senate appropriations.. Nicholas: Of this amount 250,000 will be spent for that bill, if senate bill does not pass, can not be spent...matching program
1:24:42 ~ 1/20/2011 5:51:44 PM ~ Emond: sep from gove rec Nicholas: motion to increase by 250,00 adopted 72,000 plus 250,000 motion adopted close agency 10 motion adopted
1:25:27 ~ 1/20/2011 5:52:29 PM ~ Nicholas: 020 Dept of environmental quality..AML funding seperately.. Pg 12, pg ...address backlogs Harshman: Did gov Mead add .. Bill: Gov letter #5..pg 4...reclassifying 4 FTE's
1:26:55 ~ 1/20/2011 5:53:57 PM ~ Nicholas: Put on list to address the frozen positons Additonal rec of 1.5 million backlog..one time appropration 4 FTE transfers under existing..make sure understand rec 4FTE transfer under Gov Freudenthal rec..Gov Mead added the 1.5 million Berger: Had to be with proposal he approved.. Nicholas: Footnote..put in 900 series..his comment become part of the request..so it is built into that
1:28:41 ~ 1/20/2011 5:55:44 PM ~ Bill: If richard agrees.. Richard: shook head yes Nicholas: ... Meier: Testimony in Revenue..3 positons forzen...lots of agencies with frozen positions for a long time.. created a problem with the frozen positions..
1:31:56 ~ 1/20/2011 5:58:58 PM ~ Meier Because this is a backlog with coalbed methane the retooled some of these people. I'll make that motion and delete
1:33:21 ~ 1/20/2011 6:00:24 PM ~ Nicholas Give contracting money Motion has been adopted.
1:34:06 ~ 1/20/2011 6:01:08 PM ~ Mie There is some additional money in there Shows on Page 13
1:34:43 ~ 1/20/2011 6:01:45 PM ~ Berger Mr. Chairman I think you were gone when this was discussed.
1:35:43 ~ 1/20/2011 6:02:45 PM ~ Nicholas That addresses the 401 unit. That is the AML Agency 24 State Parks Priorities are on Page 6 Gov. Rec adopted Page 15
1:37:12 ~ 1/20/2011 6:04:15 PM ~ Meier We are not on the cargo van or micro processor
1:37:38 ~ 1/20/2011 6:04:40 PM ~ Berger That has to do with contract labor
1:38:03 ~ 1/20/2011 6:05:06 PM ~ Berger IT's on page 15
1:39:14 ~ 1/20/2011 6:06:17 PM ~ Nicholas $20,000 we can fund it but don't they have flex You made it number 7 Its not like we Restore Motion was adopted.
1:40:51 ~ 1/20/2011 6:07:54 PM ~ Hastert The Gov's rec does not $45,000 for contract labor
1:42:14 ~ 1/20/2011 6:09:16 PM ~ Meier If you have a new lift, You have several thousand box's to move It doesn't make sense to me
1:43:42 ~ 1/20/2011 6:10:44 PM ~ Wallis They are busy now It would be a better use
1:44:19 ~ 1/20/2011 6:11:21 PM ~ Nicholas A&I has a lot of employees
1:44:51 ~ 1/20/2011 6:11:53 PM ~ Cox The answer is yes there is They also have positions
1:46:01 ~ 1/20/2011 6:13:03 PM ~ Nicholas Before we move on are we building That motion passed.Are we putting in the right building.
1:47:27 ~ 1/20/2011 6:14:29 PM ~ Harshman I think that we should be something
1:48:07 ~ 1/20/2011 6:15:10 PM ~ Nicholas THe $50,000 should not be expended if
1:49:09 ~ 1/20/2011 6:16:12 PM ~ VonFlatern The shelving should be able to be moved from one building to another.
1:49:57 ~ 1/20/2011 6:16:59 PM ~ Nicholas The rest are Cap Con Pages 26, 27 & 28 Gov's rec. Gov's rec Cose agency 24 We are done.