File name: JACBudgetHearings2014_20140120_095538.dcr Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\happropriations\My Documents\JAC Audio 2014 6 ~ 1/20/2014 9:56:08 AM ~ Harshman: Out of executive session, went into it todiscuss matters of litigation. Questons for UW 27 ~ 1/20/2014 9:56:29 AM ~ Harshman: Cap Con Pool - denied by the Gov, level 2 costs, 500,000 requested, denied. 1:00 ~ 1/20/2014 9:57:02 AM ~ mai: gov rec denied. 1:07 ~ 1/20/2014 9:57:09 AM ~ Harshman: total 20 M, 1:17 ~ 1/20/2014 9:57:20 AM ~ Mai 20-22 M; That worries me about the STEM and Engineering bldg 1:44 ~ 1/20/2014 9:57:46 AM ~ Harshman: 50 M. 20 x 25 1:54 ~ 1/20/2014 9:57:56 AM ~ mai: 50 Meter. 2:03 ~ 1/20/2014 9:58:06 AM ~ Bebout: Double A - 5 M last year; now need another 5 M, do not want another 5 M, where are weat? matching money?No more appropriations for teh double A 2:41 ~ 1/20/2014 9:58:44 AM ~ mai: I believe that is the case..hesitation based on escalating construction costs. 2 construction phases, first phase in March, 30 year old bldg..soils testing - closer to bedrock than we thought, 1 M in extra costs, jockeyed other pieces of project. Athletic director is leaning on donors to make sure the states share does not go up. 4:10 ~ 1/20/2014 10:00:13 AM ~ Bebout: Classroom bldg --consequences ..timing? 4:31 ~ 1/20/2014 10:00:34 AM ~ McGinity: Excellent faciity at its time, has been updated tech. 8 M can be used. If number is 4 M, we will use it, rate of upgrade. 5:20 ~ 1/20/2014 10:01:22 AM ~ Bebout: tech, classroom and physical plant in decent shape? 5:36 ~ 1/20/2014 10:01:38 AM ~ McGinity and Mai: shook heads yes 5:46 ~ 1/20/2014 10:01:48 AM ~ harshman: long range developement of water wells. 2.75 M King st denied, 6:12 ~ 1/20/2014 10:02:15 AM ~ Mai: question? 6:19 ~ 1/20/2014 10:02:21 AM ~ Harshman: what is the plan? will street go away? 6:31 ~ 1/20/2014 10:02:34 AM ~ Mai: Desire to clean up King st and make it safer..between sorority row and residental halls. All the mnoey poured into resident halls did not go into sweeps. misconception that residence halls ahve been remodeled. They have not. They have been updated for life and safety issues. How does the campus attract undergrads? Life issue, coaches have difficulty recruiting because of residence halls. 8:30 ~ 1/20/2014 10:04:33 AM ~ harshman: do not do King st until figure out plan for Residence halls. 8:43 ~ 1/20/2014 10:04:45 AM ~ mai: yes...examples ---bulding streets, then tear up to get into utilites, etc. Take a comprehensive look at it. 9:14 ~ 1/20/2014 10:05:16 AM ~ Harshman: utilities would be upgraded and sewer drains replacement.. 9:33 ~ 1/20/2014 10:05:35 AM ~ mai: questions... told would ahve to retear up street so make a long term plan. 10:05 ~ 1/20/2014 10:06:07 AM ~ Nicholas: 100 M to replace those dorms...keep giving money to UW, will be difficult to fund the 100 M. set up a fund for the replacement. 10:44 ~ 1/20/2014 10:06:46 AM ~ Mai: huge project, self sustaining now as students are paying in. 3Harshman: will come back with a plan for that. 11:17 ~ 1/20/2014 10:07:20 AM ~ bebout: info on irrigation system. Overdeisigned and overbuildign in that regard. Some need there but a lot of money for an irrigation system. 11:47 ~ 1/20/2014 10:07:50 AM ~ Meier: Establishing fund..find out what you can charge for room rents..do comparters, find out about bonds, then look at number to augment it. On the arena auditorium, what ist he capacity now and what will it be after? 12:37 ~ 1/20/2014 10:08:39 AM ~ Mai: Double A, lost 2-3000 seats. From 15000 to 11500 12:55 ~ 1/20/2014 10:08:57 AM ~ Meier: how does NIT pick teams? does eating capacity come into it? 13:09 ~ 1/20/2014 10:09:11 AM ~ Mai: can't answer that..discussion about arena size. CSU is still smaller capacity even after remodal... 13:35 ~ 1/20/2014 10:09:37 AM ~ Bebout: NCAR - 1 M per year for 19 years, 75% towards a new computer. Tech. surprises. Is contract written so there will be no surprises? 14:10 ~ 1/20/2014 10:10:12 AM ~ UW staff: parent organization ..national science foundation..budget..always subject tot he fed gov. LT plan and federal committment has nothing to do with immediate political agenda. Has been around for 50 years. Need for large capacity. 15:14 ~ 1/20/2014 10:11:16 AM ~ Mai: bob Elwood , VP of IT, tour of faciilties. linkage of fiber optics, I-80 down to Boulder. How much capacity UW has on system and what it is being ..fights over use of capacity . 17:09 ~ 1/20/2014 10:13:12 AM ~ Bebout: update on acct, CNG 17:21 ~ 1/20/2014 10:13:24 AM ~ Mai: CNG, bus purchases, need facilites to handle them. UW interested in using them, huge possibility to use CNG busses at UW camputs, trade-off economically. Transist guys from approach of practicality. oversubscribed on use of busses, facility ..Central parking and pickup on south end of camputs. Nothing similar on north end of campus. Laramie High School vacated would be good analoug location. National guard center on east side of campus would be good bus facility for central storage piece. CNG adds costs, opent to it but looking at it practically, deliver people and take care of equipment. 19:59 ~ 1/20/2014 10:16:01 AM ~ Bebout: reversion clause? put a footnote to revist the dispositino of the 1 M, AML funds? 20:23 ~ 1/20/2014 10:16:26 AM ~ Richards: AML funds, spent by DOT, not GF available. 20:36 ~ 1/20/2014 10:16:38 AM ~ Bebout: Family practice centers issue...legislatively this time? nature and funciton. several missions. Think about it and come up with some ideas. 21:18 ~ 1/20/2014 10:17:20 AM ~ McGinity: We will take that on. We are pursuing federal funding under medical educational program, site visit this month. 21:57 ~ 1/20/2014 10:17:59 AM ~ Bebout: no footnote..talk more about it in next general session. Growth of University in terms of student population. Tremendous university, staff, population lingers. IN 2000 numbers the same. as now. INcentivize student population growth, 12000 students. 23:17 ~ 1/20/2014 10:19:19 AM ~ McGinity: involved in longer term and detailed plan, enrollment will be part of it. Growth of 1000 students at Laramie campus may be possible. develop cost numbers. Today ask for nothing . may come back asking for incentive. 24:05 ~ 1/20/2014 10:20:08 AM ~ Harshman: part of growth is keeping students.. retention rate of 74%, incentives help there as well. 24:29 ~ 1/20/2014 10:20:32 AM ~ McGinity: can do a better job retention, need to get to at least 80%. more detailed plan on how to do that and what to do . 25:09 ~ 1/20/2014 10:21:11 AM ~ Wallis: analysis or consideration of providing in state tuition to high school kids coming from surrounding states? 25:30 ~ 1/20/2014 10:21:32 AM ~ McGinity: No? 25:39 ~ 1/20/2014 10:21:42 AM ~ Miller: Several UW programs designed to give a reduction of out-of-state tuition. lots of western nebraska students. It is not resident but it is down from out of state. 26:33 ~ 1/20/2014 10:22:35 AM ~ Wallis: more info about how surrounding states kids , how the reductions work. details. 26:52 ~ 1/20/2014 10:22:54 AM ~ Esquibel: Talking with students, one of the biggest complaints is parking . 35 dollars for a parking ticket . Why so high? 27:33 ~ 1/20/2014 10:23:35 AM ~ Mai: I would not look to lower it. Everybody wants to park outside their front door. A lot is a lot closer than most student parking so must have a large incentive to not violate that. 28:35 ~ 1/20/2014 10:24:38 AM ~ McGinity: I too got a 20 ticket .. position has nothing to do with it. Part of it has to do with enforcement, lots of students, lots of cards, need to enforce. 29:05 ~ 1/20/2014 10:25:07 AM ~ Bebout: Mark Northham: school of energy reources. Endowed chair for school of energy..5 M gov has in budget. Is that enough to endow the chair. 29:42 ~ 1/20/2014 10:25:44 AM ~ Northam: endowed chair came up in discussion with a partner. They would like tostart at 5 M. STate matching funds of 5 M give an endowment of 10 M for the program, would generate 400,000 income per year. They would like chair awarded to someon already on state. For immediate future, would allow a research program unparalled. pay grad studetns, fund expendable, adquate funding to attend meetings, further develop reputation of university. outstanding way to kick off campaign to implement a tier 1 enginnering program. Premier chair. Would we get the 5 M without the matching funds? I don't know..similar to other chairs this company has funded, expects 10 M 32:04 ~ 1/20/2014 10:28:07 AM ~ Bebout: 10-15 M ..matches.. unconvential resevoirs. 32:18 ~ 1/20/2014 10:28:20 AM ~ Northam: On friday, verbal committments to match 15 M for strategic areas of concentration ie unconvential resevoirs. instrumentation in building,. 21.4 M for construction of bldg. additional matchable funds to utilize the 10.1 M the gov recommended. 33:21 ~ 1/20/2014 10:29:23 AM ~ Bebout: high bay 1 page profile on funding. PRIZE program, companies looking at creating a 10 M prize for coal fired power plants, capture CO2. If prize is granted, state would be olbigated to build that facility. Are you involved. Brett, where does the info come from for legislature to make decision. postiive step.. 34:26 ~ 1/20/2014 10:30:28 AM ~ Northham: I am involved. Rob Hurless is intimately involved, has buld of info. As part of process ,idea is to build a faciilty to harvest slip stream.... 35:16 ~ 1/20/2014 10:31:18 AM ~ bebout: Brett, rob present synopis? 35:25 ~ 1/20/2014 10:31:27 AM ~ Jones: yes it is , scheduled time with Mr. Hurless to be briefed, coordinating with gov policy office and mr. easley. 35:52 ~ 1/20/2014 10:31:54 AM ~ Moniz: matching funds for scholarships..interest in that? have you used all the funds. options, greater need? 36:14 ~ 1/20/2014 10:32:16 AM ~ McGinity: Matches for scholarships have been deployed. More are always better than fewer and there is interst in further funding/ 36:47 ~ 1/20/2014 10:32:49 AM ~ Moniz: additional ? 36:54 ~ 1/20/2014 10:32:57 AM ~ McGinity: 5 M would be low. I would say 10 M would be welcome and usable. 37:11 ~ 1/20/2014 10:33:13 AM ~ Wallis: how much money are we currently matching for scholarships. academic, sports? 37:33 ~ 1/20/2014 10:33:36 AM ~ McGinity: will get exact number to you. 37:46 ~ 1/20/2014 10:33:48 AM ~ Harshman: Appreciate you coming over, Senate stretch of 12 minutes, house is 25. Be back at 10:50 38:43 ~ 1/20/2014 10:52:56 AM ~ 048 - Department of Health Director Tom Forslund Answer any followup 39:25 ~ 1/20/2014 10:53:37 AM ~ Forslund: Medicaid, reduction of existing; Arkansas model; traditional medicaid expansion 40:52 ~ 1/20/2014 10:55:04 AM ~ Esquibel: Administrative impacts? 41:09 ~ 1/20/2014 10:55:21 AM ~ Forslund: No 41:32 ~ 1/20/2014 10:55:45 AM ~ Bebout: Medicaid, 3 states: FL, LA, KS. Provided better services and more cost effective. Private companies bidding outcome based. 43:16 ~ 1/20/2014 10:57:29 AM ~ Forslund: Managed care. Looking at various models to see if would work for WY. Reporting to joint labor committee with results. 44:42 ~ 1/20/2014 10:58:54 AM ~ Bebout: timing? 44:53 ~ 1/20/2014 10:59:06 AM ~ Forslund: No difference. 45:00 ~ 1/20/2014 10:59:13 AM ~ Forslund: CFS requires at least 2 plans for managed care. Issue of so few people on medicaid program in the state. Unlikely to atttract 2 companies to share. Would have to request waiver from CMS for just one company. 46:23 ~ 1/20/2014 11:00:35 AM ~ Esquibel: Type of impact? 46:35 ~ 1/20/2014 11:00:47 AM ~ Forslund: Generic term, all kinds of managed care. Can't answer 47:13 ~ 1/20/2014 11:01:26 AM ~ Perkins: 1200 children moving to medicaid from SCHP, different rates? 48:08 ~ 1/20/2014 11:02:20 AM ~ Forslund: Changing, but is enhanced. 48:15 ~ 1/20/2014 11:02:28 AM ~ Perkins: Access problems? 48:31 ~ 1/20/2014 11:02:43 AM ~ Forslund: no access issues within WY; one of highest participation providers in the nation 49:56 ~ 1/20/2014 11:04:08 AM ~ Perkins: Waiver redesign. provided table; 50:46 ~ 1/20/2014 11:04:58 AM ~ Forslund: Table, 234 adult people on waiting list as of September 30, 2013. Looked at 6, 12, 18, and 24 months on waiting list. 53:13 ~ 1/20/2014 11:07:25 AM ~ Perkins: If on comprehensive waiver, will stay? 53:52 ~ 1/20/2014 11:08:04 AM ~ Forslund: Yes, but assessment of all people in program now if services appropriate. Most will be on support waiver. 54:35 ~ 1/20/2014 11:08:47 AM ~ Perkins: example 1:00:22 ~ 1/20/2014 11:14:34 AM ~ Newman: Case managers involved in standardized assessment to determine budget. Contracctor cnducts assessment. 1:02:56 ~ 1/20/2014 11:17:09 AM ~ Meier: Dr. Rose mentioned that an associates degree and work experience, determination if all classes are needed for degree, rules on case managers for certification 1:05:12 ~ 1/20/2014 11:19:25 AM ~ Newman: Grandfather in current case managers with current requirements, consult with outside contractor for unbiased assessment. 48 college credit hours. 1:09:01 ~ 1/20/2014 11:23:14 AM ~ Hastert: Waivers, do reassessment, but will maintain caregiver if in the person's best interests. 1:10:09 ~ 1/20/2014 11:24:21 AM ~ Forslund: Yes, but move to conflict free case manager organization. 1:11:01 ~ 1/20/2014 11:25:13 AM ~ Hastert: Savings when assessment complete, any idea to get people on waiting list off 1:11:26 ~ 1/20/2014 11:25:38 AM ~ Newman: Range between 1-300 people by 2018. 1:12:53 ~ 1/20/2014 11:27:06 AM ~ Hastert: How much money to get off waiting list? 1:13:23 ~ 1/20/2014 11:27:36 AM ~ Perkins: conflict cast management 1:16:34 ~ 1/20/2014 11:30:47 AM ~ Forslund: Medicaid reform; redesign esixting medicaid system to serve people on waiting list with monies; implement conflict free case management. Complying with. 1:17:44 ~ 1/20/2014 11:31:57 AM ~ Stubson: Child DD program. AG review 1:18:17 ~ 1/20/2014 11:32:29 AM ~ Forslund: handout. preschool program and budget comparisons. federal b and federal c levels. federal contributions for preschool programs; page 2, maintenance of effort. state general funds. 1:26:24 ~ 1/20/2014 11:40:37 AM ~ Bebout: Broken out by obligation? 1:26:40 ~ 1/20/2014 11:40:53 AM ~ Forslund: B is DOE 1:27:18 ~ 1/20/2014 11:41:30 AM ~ Meier: Maintenance effort determined by what? 1:27:52 ~ 1/20/2014 11:42:04 AM ~ Forslund: depends on whether b or c. exception for children served, can reduce funding for b. once established dollar amount for c, stays there. 1:28:33 ~ 1/20/2014 11:42:45 AM ~ Forslund: not a block grant, ask for child count as of November 1. 1:30:07 ~ 1/20/2014 11:44:20 AM ~ Stubson: indication of state financial support not measures by expenditures on part b and part c funding; 1:30:52 ~ 1/20/2014 11:45:04 AM ~ Forslund: look at all expenditures made by state in b program 1:32:32 ~ 1/20/2014 11:46:45 AM ~ Stubson: No conversatons between health and education on maintenance effort? 1:32:50 ~ 1/20/2014 11:47:02 AM ~ Forslund: Yes, discussions, but not out of compliance. 1:33:13 ~ 1/20/2014 11:47:25 AM ~ Stubson: reduced child count for basis of waiver, claim waiver retroactively? 1:33:33 ~ 1/20/2014 11:47:46 AM ~ Forslund: other states have received waivers retroactively. 1:35:03 ~ 1/20/2014 11:49:16 AM ~ Stubson: FY 15/16, recommendation? 1:35:22 ~ 1/20/2014 11:49:34 AM ~ Forslund: DOE files for a waiver for FY 14 for part b program; $3.3M appropriation for FY15/16. 1:37:54 ~ 1/20/2014 11:52:06 AM ~ Moniz: Providers paid ? 1:38:10 ~ 1/20/2014 11:52:22 AM ~ Forslund: based on per child account, established at state level. 1:38:30 ~ 1/20/2014 11:52:43 AM ~ Forslund: all DOH costs, general fund. 1:39:11 ~ 1/20/2014 11:53:23 AM ~ Bebout: COLA for salaries? 1:39:28 ~ 1/20/2014 11:53:41 AM ~ Forslund: Calculate and request COLA, perform periodic assessment 1:40:12 ~ 1/20/2014 11:54:25 AM ~ Nicholas: Move part b to DOE? 1:40:38 ~ 1/20/2014 11:54:51 AM ~ Forslund: Suggestion to joint education and labor committees due that part b is an education program, might simplify administration. 1:41:40 ~ 1/20/2014 11:55:52 AM ~ Nicholas: why not apply for part c waiver by department of health? 1:41:57 ~ 1/20/2014 11:56:10 AM ~ Forslund: different waivers, capacilities, not one in part c 1:42:16 ~ 1/20/2014 11:56:28 AM ~ Nicholas: Reaction of DOE? 1:42:28 ~ 1/20/2014 11:56:40 AM ~ Forslund: Education committee not fond of idea. 1:42:37 ~ 1/20/2014 11:56:50 AM ~ Dockstader: Transfer proposal? 1:43:23 ~ 1/20/2014 11:57:35 AM ~ Forslund: up to legislature. 1:43:39 ~ 1/20/2014 11:57:51 AM ~ Nicholas: federal government reduced funding for part b and c? 1:43:54 ~ 1/20/2014 11:58:07 AM ~ Forslund: Do not know 1:44:00 ~ 1/20/2014 11:58:12 AM ~ Hill: School foundation dollars for ages 3-21, special education, 1:48:11 ~ 1/20/2014 12:02:23 PM ~ Stubson: change to substance abuse and suicide number of prevention agencies using funds. How working? 1:49:17 ~ 1/20/2014 12:03:30 PM ~ Forslund: change made nearly 2 years, monies previously sent out over states and used for a variety of programs; select a single fiscal agent to save administrative costs, using savings for programs. 1:52:59 ~ 1/20/2014 12:07:11 PM ~ Bebout: Facility master plan. very timely. 1:53:43 ~ 1/20/2014 12:07:55 PM ~ Forslund: 2 reports, master facilities plan, future needs; review of operations of life resource center. Life resource center could reduce staffing by 114 positions, hiring freeze, 50 vacant positions not filling at this time. Can lay people off, incentive package for targeted positions, natural attrition. facilities, greatest needs at state hospital and operations issues at life resource center, huge acreage and is designed as hospital for short stays, but turning into long stays due to dual diagnosis of mental and physical issues and long term stays for elderly patients who have mental and physical issues. 2:02:33 ~ 1/20/2014 12:16:45 PM ~ Dockstader? Incentive package costs? 2:02:44 ~ 1/20/2014 12:16:56 PM ~ Forslund: No, one done in the 1990's 2:03:11 ~ 1/20/2014 12:17:24 PM ~ Dockstader: All beds in Lander? 2:03:26 ~ 1/20/2014 12:17:38 PM ~ Moniz: Lots of empty beds since 1964. Need to rebuild? 2:04:07 ~ 1/20/2014 12:18:19 PM ~ Forslund: Against rebuilding facility in place today, different type and size of population originally. 2:06:36 ~ 1/20/2014 12:20:49 PM ~