File name: JACBudgetHearings2014_20140122_070923.dcr Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\happropriations\My Documents\JAC Audio 2014 1 ~ 1/22/2014 8:02:09 AM ~ Wednesday January 22, 2014 2015-2016 budget Markup 26 ~ 1/22/2014 8:02:34 AM ~ harshman: 33 ~ 1/22/2014 8:02:40 AM ~ richards: roll call, quorom established. 42 ~ 1/22/2014 8:02:50 AM ~ Harshman: will work on second half of agency budgets, leave the govs letters and section 300 for tomroow. If we move quickly, may get into round robin. At latest, round robin is friday morning with plan to be done by 10 am 1:32 ~ 1/22/2014 8:03:40 AM ~ Bebout: want every member to have opportunity. 2:01 ~ 1/22/2014 8:04:08 AM ~ Harshman : update 2:05 ~ 1/22/2014 8:04:13 AM ~ Richards: 238.6 M on the table as starting point, prior to gov letters. 2 big reductions 5 M in NRTF, 4 M court security, samller inc and red. 247 M now. 2:48 ~ 1/22/2014 8:04:56 AM ~ Bebout: indication of good amendments or the way the Senate ran the meeting? 3:02 ~ 1/22/2014 8:05:10 AM ~ Harshman: House amendments - good group effort. thanks to staff for leg and exec branch. 3:26 ~ 1/22/2014 8:05:34 AM ~ Chairman Harshman for the day....will open agency, unit, gov rec is the motion 3:56 ~ 1/22/2014 8:06:04 AM ~ Agency 049 - unit 5901 pg 15 Passed 5:23 ~ 1/22/2014 8:07:31 AM ~ 5902 pg 19 Passed 5:36 ~ 1/22/2014 8:07:44 AM ~ pg 234 unit 5903 Passed 5:48 ~ 1/22/2014 8:07:56 AM ~ pg 29 unit 5904 Passed 6:00 ~ 1/22/2014 8:08:08 AM ~ pg 36 unit 5905 Passed 6:18 ~ 1/22/2014 8:08:25 AM ~ pg 41 unit 5906 Passed 6:31 ~ 1/22/2014 8:08:39 AM ~ pg 45 unit 5908 Passed 6:45 ~ 1/22/2014 8:08:53 AM ~ pg 48 unit 5909 Passed 7:01 ~ 1/22/2014 8:09:09 AM ~ pg 53 unit 0615 Passed 7:20 ~ 1/22/2014 8:09:28 AM ~ pg 59 unit 6016 Passed 7:34 ~ 1/22/2014 8:09:41 AM ~ pg 65 unit 6017 Passed 7:48 ~ 1/22/2014 8:09:56 AM ~ pg 70 unit 6018 Passed 8:02 ~ 1/22/2014 8:10:10 AM ~ pg 76 unit 6019 Passed 8:17 ~ 1/22/2014 8:10:25 AM ~ pg 80 unit 6020 Passed 8:36 ~ 1/22/2014 8:10:43 AM ~ pg 85 unit 6021 Passed 8:47 ~ 1/22/2014 8:10:55 AM ~ Clears the agency. The next is capcon. 9:01 ~ 1/22/2014 8:11:08 AM ~ Esquibel: would like to move the Father Factor amendment, funds out of Tanif program, seconded. Fractured families, both parents involvement, fund this program for a biennium for the cost of one child through cowboy challenge program. National conference. This program hit 22 of 25 points. Other states wants to emulate this program. State legislator mag will do a piece about this progrm. 10:58 ~ 1/22/2014 8:13:06 AM ~ Burkhart: odd amount of money? 11:05 ~ 1/22/2014 8:13:13 AM ~ Esquibel: Dept agency got together with this group six years. tried to expand to two other communities but funding was cut in half so this amendment does not match from last year. matches their program,, 11:58 ~ 1/22/2014 8:14:06 AM ~ Nciholas: history of the funding over last six years or since it began per biennium 12:12 ~ 1/22/2014 8:14:20 AM ~ Esquibel: Before I was elected - 48000 in 2006-7 . Started added counseling, pro se pieces and traveling to other communities, inc budget up to 274,000 (added an admin assistant) , such a popular program they were overwhelmed. have partnered with several groups, such as substance abuse, family counseling, do we want parents taking care of their kid or the state? 13:55 ~ 1/22/2014 8:16:03 AM ~ Perkins: 61 M in grants and payments.. do great work, lots of other organizations do great work. They would be eligible for grants and funding if they went through the process. Struggle with singling out specific non-profits. opposed on those grounds. 15:16 ~ 1/22/2014 8:17:24 AM ~ Esquibel: look at depts - DFS 600 and 900 sereies, CLIMB gets 1M+ . Takes six months to go through the processso time and money to do what we are already doing with a vote. 16:23 ~ 1/22/2014 8:18:31 AM ~ Harshman: that is what we do hear. Amendment passed. 16:40 ~ 1/22/2014 8:18:48 AM ~ Richards: Two amendments from prior budgets: amendment 2 is required by statute. no change other than the dates. Footnote 3 is optional. budget bill limited residential treatment facilites and group homes to those that were certified by a certain date. 17:37 ~ 1/22/2014 8:19:44 AM ~ Foot note 17:40 ~ 1/22/2014 8:19:48 AM ~ footnote 2 adopted 17:51 ~ 1/22/2014 8:19:59 AM ~ footnote 3 Meier: have hear no concersn about the limitation, do not want to overbuild so still relative. Footnote with date changes, adopted 18:23 ~ 1/22/2014 8:20:31 AM ~ Agency 49 Passed 18:33 ~ 1/22/2014 8:20:41 AM ~ Agency 51 Livestock board 18:43 ~ 1/22/2014 8:20:51 AM ~ pg 17 0101 Passed 18:53 ~ 1/22/2014 8:21:01 AM ~ pg 20 0102 Passed 19:07 ~ 1/22/2014 8:21:15 AM ~ pg 22 0103 Passed 19:19 ~ 1/22/2014 8:21:27 AM ~ pg 23 0200 Passed 19:31 ~ 1/22/2014 8:21:39 AM ~ pg 26 0201 Passed 20:05 ~ 1/22/2014 8:22:13 AM ~ pg 30 0205 Passed 20:15 ~ 1/22/2014 8:22:23 AM ~ pg 34 0301 Passed 20:41 ~ 1/22/2014 8:22:49 AM ~ pg 37 unit 0302 Passed 20:54 ~ 1/22/2014 8:23:02 AM ~ pg 40 unit 0303 Passed 21:14 ~ 1/22/2014 8:23:22 AM ~ pg 43 unit 0601 gov rec 21:24 ~ 1/22/2014 8:23:32 AM ~ Richards: on page 46 of this unit, narrative suggest old footnote. agency only utilitzes funds for mgt of strays.. 21:59 ~ 1/22/2014 8:24:07 AM ~ Wallis: what is that? 22:06 ~ 1/22/2014 8:24:14 AM ~ Richards: 50,000 about to vote on, can't transfer to another program, must spend on strays or it will revert. That has expired. footnote would need to be continued if you didn ot want transfer. 22:50 ~ 1/22/2014 8:24:58 AM ~ Wallis: 23:03 ~ 1/22/2014 8:25:11 AM ~ Moniz: motion to establish the footnote again. second footnote passed 23:24 ~ 1/22/2014 8:25:32 AM ~ unit 0601 Passed 23:46 ~ 1/22/2014 8:25:54 AM ~ pg 52 0701 Passed 23:58 ~ 1/22/2014 8:26:06 AM ~ pg 56 unit 801 Passed 24:37 ~ 1/22/2014 8:26:45 AM ~ Agency 051 Passed 24:49 ~ 1/22/2014 8:26:57 AM ~ Agency 53 workforce services 24:59 ~ 1/22/2014 8:27:07 AM ~ pg 20 0101 Passed 25:16 ~ 1/22/2014 8:27:24 AM ~ pg 28 0125 Passed 25:31 ~ 1/22/2014 8:27:39 AM ~ pg 33 0135 Passed 25:40 ~ 1/22/2014 8:27:48 AM ~ pg 36 0140 Passed 25:54 ~ 1/22/2014 8:28:01 AM ~ pg 42 0150 Passed 26:08 ~ 1/22/2014 8:28:16 AM ~ pg 50 0190 Passed 26:20 ~ 1/22/2014 8:28:28 AM ~ pg 54 0191 Passed 26:36 ~ 1/22/2014 8:28:44 AM ~ pg 60 0201 Passed 26:51 ~ 1/22/2014 8:28:59 AM ~ pg 70 0301 Passed 27:09 ~ 1/22/2014 8:29:16 AM ~ pg 75 0320 Passed 27:24 ~ 1/22/2014 8:29:32 AM ~ pg 79 0340 Passed 27:38 ~ 1/22/2014 8:29:46 AM ~ pg 81 0350 zeroed out Passed 27:50 ~ 1/22/2014 8:29:58 AM ~ pg 84 0370 Passed 28:04 ~ 1/22/2014 8:30:12 AM ~ pg 89 0401 Passed 28:15 ~ 1/22/2014 8:30:23 AM ~ pg 99 0501 Passed 28:27 ~ 1/22/2014 8:30:35 AM ~ Agency 53 amendments? 28:42 ~ 1/22/2014 8:30:50 AM ~ Meier: do not have now, want to find workforce service dollars for vocational training in a high school , will round robin, wantt to give committee a heads up... 29:40 ~ 1/22/2014 8:31:48 AM ~ Agency 53 Passed closed 29:49 ~ 1/22/2014 8:31:57 AM ~ Agency 55 oil and gas commission 29:57 ~ 1/22/2014 8:32:05 AM ~ pg 19 0101 Passed 30:12 ~ 1/22/2014 8:32:20 AM ~ pg 24 0106 Passed 30:21 ~ 1/22/2014 8:32:29 AM ~ pg 29 0202 Passed 30:33 ~ 1/22/2014 8:32:41 AM ~ Amendments? 30:41 ~ 1/22/2014 8:32:49 AM ~ Wallis: amendment for all orphaned oil wells ...at owners option for the well to be sealed instead of plugged, would allow anyone in the future to go to SE and get the water right to open it and use it as a water well. Currently company must seal and close which costs thousands. If you want to use the well, must drill through the concrete which costs 6000 moved, seconded 31:54 ~ 1/22/2014 8:34:01 AM ~ Bebout: A to A, if owner or state does not want it plugged, they assume responsibility for that well. if in fact the surface owner or the state, who owns the lease, exercises the option, they assume responsibility for the future of that well. 32:51 ~ 1/22/2014 8:34:59 AM ~ Perkins: surety bond posted by company, if owner assumes the liabiilty, what is our assurance? 33:24 ~ 1/22/2014 8:35:31 AM ~ bebout: it would be the oil and gas commission. would treat them as though they were the operator of an ongoing well, may need to develop it in wells, do not want landowner to do a 75000 bond for a water well. 33:59 ~ 1/22/2014 8:36:07 AM ~ Wallis: Brings into light how ridiculous our regulations have gotten.. water well. CBM wells. Oil and gas side hammered with bonds. If i drilled for my house, I would not have any of that. What would the liability be? 35:03 ~ 1/22/2014 8:37:11 AM ~ meier: spend 25 or 50 for a well permit, snapshot a GPS and then itwould be done. vote it 35:25 ~ 1/22/2014 8:37:33 AM ~ Perkins: Some cbn wells have good water, other times heavy salts, pastures ruined from run off of CBN wells 36:02 ~ 1/22/2014 8:38:10 AM ~ Bebout: That is up to hte landowner, SAR sodium absorption rate, landowner would not want to assume responsibility..common sense 36:38 ~ 1/22/2014 8:38:46 AM ~ Perkins: think so but...pile of tires. 36:48 ~ 1/22/2014 8:38:56 AM ~ Wallis: water not of highest quality not on pasture, cows will still drink it. 37:04 ~ 1/22/2014 8:39:11 AM ~ A to A adopted. Amendment adopted 37:19 ~ 1/22/2014 8:39:26 AM ~ Richards: gov rec no fund expended until formal plan is submittedand authorized. 37:34 ~ 1/22/2014 8:39:42 AM ~ Amendment moved and seconded. 37:43 ~ 1/22/2014 8:39:51 AM ~ Jones; gov effectively immediately 37:50 ~ 1/22/2014 8:39:58 AM ~ harshman: deal with it tomorrow Adopted agency 55 closed 38:14 ~ 1/22/2014 8:40:22 AM ~ Agency 57 WCCC 38:20 ~ 1/22/2014 8:40:28 AM ~ pg 18 0101 Passed 38:37 ~ 1/22/2014 8:40:45 AM ~ pg 22 0107 Passed 38:50 ~ 1/22/2014 8:40:58 AM ~ pg 27 0201 39:13 ~ 1/22/2014 8:41:20 AM ~ Wallis: amendment moved and seconded.. to restore funds.....extra funds for instructors to fill those positions is split with the college 60/40 not pure state dollars? 40:19 ~ 1/22/2014 8:42:27 AM ~ Richards: 61% state 39% local resources. 40:42 ~ 1/22/2014 8:42:50 AM ~ Perkins: distinguish between on line and physical attendance fro growth 41:01 ~ 1/22/2014 8:43:09 AM ~ Richards: they can. Formula does not require that distinction. 41:13 ~ 1/22/2014 8:43:21 AM ~ Harshman: did WCCC biennialize their cuts, another 6 M in this budget. 41:26 ~ 1/22/2014 8:43:34 AM ~ Bebout: about 5.8 M yes biennialized 41:38 ~ 1/22/2014 8:43:46 AM ~ meier; formula not the best, ...footnote or A to A to require an analysis of actual cost of providing online.."real numbers" 42:52 ~ 1/22/2014 8:45:00 AM ~ Bebout: 42:59 ~ 1/22/2014 8:45:07 AM ~ Bebout: need to do something Colleges did make the reductions and biennialized the cuts. Valid concerns about the formula. We told the mto do this formula. Obligation for this committee and state to fund to some level. As to future, it is JAC that needs to look at a plan so we do not do this every year, not proper planning and budgeting 44:12 ~ 1/22/2014 8:46:20 AM ~ Harshman: motion to restore 14.3 M 44:20 ~ 1/22/2014 8:46:27 AM ~ Stubson move to Amend the amendment - caution as we will not go back on funding level. Add 6 M for growth, seconded. 44:57 ~ 1/22/2014 8:47:05 AM ~ Perkins: explain net 45:03 ~ 1/22/2014 8:47:11 AM ~ Stubson: 6 M instead of 14 M 45:12 ~ 1/22/2014 8:47:20 AM ~ Wallis: speak against the A to A - based on actual enrollmetn growth experiences, 14 M based on 09-10 fiscal year. if they had based it on actual growth, figure is 17 -19 M,already adjusted downward based on the trend lines across the whole system. largest enrollment growth happening at institutions with most expensive programs to institute. If concern is that colleges are pumping up enrollment of less expensive on line enrollment then ask them to not use the on line numbers. Local level funding is drying up. still have industry deman 47:17 ~ 1/22/2014 8:49:25 AM ~ Bebout: delete the 6 M and go to 9 M. enrollment growth has gone down and is trending that way..plugged numbers in. will provide if 9 M works. 48:10 ~ 1/22/2014 8:50:17 AM ~ Harshman: 6 M A to A Failed 48:26 ~ 1/22/2014 8:50:34 AM ~ Harshman: original motion of 14.3 48:33 ~ 1/22/2014 8:50:41 AM ~ Bebout: A to A of 9 M 48:39 ~ 1/22/2014 8:50:47 AM ~ A to A of 9 M amendment adopted 49:13 ~ 1/22/2014 8:51:21 AM ~ Wallis: amendment to limit enrollment growth those enrollments not on line No second 49:40 ~ 1/22/2014 8:51:48 AM ~ nicholas: only for completed classes amendment, second 49:56 ~ 1/22/2014 8:52:04 AM ~ Wallis: will not work with the way the funding occurs. college funding is up front not after the fact, mechanism to adjust. 50:29 ~ 1/22/2014 8:52:37 AM ~ Harshman: funding model moving in this direction. 50:43 ~ 1/22/2014 8:52:51 AM ~ Meier: 1st year as it is now based on historical, second year funding on completion. 51:04 ~ 1/22/2014 8:53:12 AM ~ Richards: would work in terms of process, would need to split the 9 M 51:26 ~ 1/22/2014 8:53:34 AM ~ Harshman: rep Nicholas motion and work on previous year 51:38 ~ 1/22/2014 8:53:46 AM ~ nicholas: taek 70 or 80 % and distribute on end of year. motion based on completion. 51:59 ~ 1/22/2014 8:54:07 AM ~ amendment based on complettion adopted. 52:13 ~ 1/22/2014 8:54:21 AM ~ Voted to amend to 9 M based on completion. need to vote on the original motion to pull it all together. 53:31 ~ 1/22/2014 8:55:39 AM ~ Jones: clarification, commission request was t o add to the std, not one time funding. 53:54 ~ 1/22/2014 8:56:02 AM ~ original amendment Passed roll out as SB 54:24 ~ 1/22/2014 8:56:32 AM ~ Bebout: move that funding is one time since we will do an analysis, seconded , amendment adopted. 54:46 ~ 1/22/2014 8:56:54 AM ~ unit 0201 Passed 54:54 ~ 1/22/2014 8:57:02 AM ~ pg 30 0202 Passed 55:08 ~ 1/22/2014 8:57:16 AM ~ Richards: gov rec includes language not in footnote form, future expansions in CCC employees would ahve to be in ER for health ins. requires a footnote. 55:48 ~ 1/22/2014 8:57:56 AM ~ Bebout: so moved, seconded, 55:56 ~ 1/22/2014 8:58:04 AM ~ Stubson: option of not including them? if we hire them, they are included? purpose? 56:12 ~ 1/22/2014 8:58:20 AM ~ Harshman: whether they will be covered by ins. 56:22 ~ 1/22/2014 8:58:30 AM ~ Richards: will the state pay for the ins. 56:32 ~ 1/22/2014 8:58:40 AM ~ Bebout: inc positions inc costs of 3 M 56:44 ~ 1/22/2014 8:58:51 AM ~ Amendment adopted. 56:50 ~ 1/22/2014 8:58:58 AM ~ 0202 Passed 56:58 ~ 1/22/2014 8:59:06 AM ~ pg 32 0204 Passed 57:11 ~ 1/22/2014 8:59:19 AM ~ pg 36 unit 0301 Passed 57:31 ~ 1/22/2014 8:59:39 AM ~ pg 40 0901 Passed 57:44 ~ 1/22/2014 8:59:52 AM ~ pg 44 0902 Passed 57:57 ~ 1/22/2014 9:00:05 AM ~ pg 48 1001 Passed 58:11 ~ 1/22/2014 9:00:19 AM ~ pg 52 1501 Passed 58:27 ~ 1/22/2014 9:00:35 AM ~ pg 56 2001 time out 58:43 ~ 1/22/2014 9:00:51 AM ~ Bebout; gov reduced the agency request. to 270 59:00 ~ 1/22/2014 9:01:08 AM ~ Jones: pg 56 is bulk of reduction ...sufficient funding that does not revert is available for this program so do not need SB, gov rec reflects tit. 59:39 ~ 1/22/2014 9:01:47 AM ~ Bebout: move to reduce by 170,000 and leave at 100,00 seconded 1:00:01 ~ 1/22/2014 9:02:09 AM ~ Burkhart: not in unit section.. 1:00:24 ~ 1/22/2014 9:02:32 AM ~ Jones: pg 53 is chariman working off off...gov rec 1:00:50 ~ 1/22/2014 9:02:57 AM ~ Harshman: pg 56 1:00:59 ~ 1/22/2014 9:03:07 AM ~ Bebout: motion withdrawn 1:01:06 ~ 1/22/2014 9:03:14 AM ~ Meier: what number is left on the table. 1:01:20 ~ 1/22/2014 9:03:28 AM ~ jones: do not have that number , can get it to you. 1:01:30 ~ 1/22/2014 9:03:38 AM ~ Meier: best teacher shortage program is high wages and we are in good shape. 600,000 reduction, zero it out. 1:02:01 ~ 1/22/2014 9:04:09 AM ~ Amendment to zero adopted 1:02:15 ~ 1/22/2014 9:04:23 AM ~ unit 2001 Passed 1:02:27 ~ 1/22/2014 9:04:35 AM ~ pg 59 2500 1:02:35 ~ 1/22/2014 9:04:43 AM ~ Bebout move to zero, do not think value is there compared to the c ost, seconded 1:02:53 ~ 1/22/2014 9:05:01 AM ~ Meier: adjunct prof salaries are much lower than teachers salaries and there is a shortage there. resist the motion. 1:03:15 ~ 1/22/2014 9:05:22 AM ~ Bebout: loan program for them, 1:03:23 ~ 1/22/2014 9:05:31 AM ~ Harshman: loan repayment, certain cooupations..motion to zero adopted. 1:03:44 ~ 1/22/2014 9:05:52 AM ~ unit 2500 adopted 1:03:55 ~ 1/22/2014 9:06:03 AM ~ pg 65 3001 Passed 1:04:14 ~ 1/22/2014 9:06:22 AM ~ pg 68 3003 Passed 1:04:32 ~ 1/22/2014 9:06:40 AM ~ Richards: couple of amendments requireing activities at the colleges and the universitites..deal with here or at 67. 1:05:01 ~ 1/22/2014 9:07:09 AM ~ Harshman: take up with agency 67 1:05:17 ~ 1/22/2014 9:07:24 AM ~ Meier: amendment to put back in 55000 - contractedservices to produce curriculum about native american history, match 55,000 by the tribes.seconded 1:06:40 ~ 1/22/2014 9:08:48 AM ~ Wallis: 55,000 total cost of program or a portion? 1:06:54 ~ 1/22/2014 9:09:02 AM ~ meier: pg 63 is breakdown, 75000 native american consults......read costs. motion failed. 1:08:09 ~ 1/22/2014 9:10:17 AM ~ vote to close unit 3001 closed 1:08:22 ~ 1/22/2014 9:10:30 AM ~ Agency vote to close Passed 1:08:33 ~ 1/22/2014 9:10:41 AM ~ AGency 60 state lands and investments 1:08:54 ~ 1/22/2014 9:11:02 AM ~ pg 22 0101 Adopted 1:09:58 ~ 1/22/2014 9:12:06 AM ~ pg 38 0102 1:10:13 ~ 1/22/2014 9:12:20 AM ~ Bebout: unit 0101 notes. went from 10 to 17 pg 22 SB vs base budget 7 personnel difference, netted? 1:10:49 ~ 1/22/2014 9:12:57 AM ~ Jones: believe that is the case, will walk through units and confirms 1:11:05 ~ 1/22/2014 9:13:13 AM ~ harshman: look at your notes. School foundation money used to improve land? breakdown on that,, have not seen number 1:11:34 ~ 1/22/2014 9:13:42 AM ~ Richards: 0102 pg 38 and 39 do not know exact amount but believe 80,000 is school trust 1:12:20 ~ 1/22/2014 9:14:28 AM ~ pg 22 0101 1:12:27 ~ 1/22/2014 9:14:35 AM ~ Bebout: move to reduce special projects, fees by half. look at compliance rates and dept of audit, do not see the reate of return, can do it for 250,000 pg 0901 object code = professional fees, priority fees, seconded. 1:13:30 ~ 1/22/2014 9:15:38 AM ~ Perkins: audited by statute? anyone know? 1:13:55 ~ 1/22/2014 9:16:03 AM ~ Bebout: their justification was to increase the number of audits based on the agency strategic plan. We have the Dept of AUdit and high compliance ratios. 1:14:24 ~ 1/22/2014 9:16:32 AM ~ Harshman: priority 3, number 2 LARKS enhancement 1:14:43 ~ 1/22/2014 9:16:51 AM ~ Nicholas: request for computer update, if we want to cut funds, not sure that is where we do it. 1:15:01 ~ 1/22/2014 9:17:09 AM ~ Bebout: amendment Failed 1:15:14 ~ 1/22/2014 9:17:22 AM ~ pg 22 0101 1:15:23 ~ 1/22/2014 9:17:31 AM ~ Jones: chapter 17 report reflects movement of units within the agency 1:15:41 ~ 1/22/2014 9:17:49 AM ~ Gov rec Passed 1:15:46 ~ 1/22/2014 9:17:54 AM ~ pg 38 0102 1:15:55 ~ 1/22/2014 9:18:02 AM ~ harshman: amendment, mgt access rehabilitation, pg 34, number 3, priority 8, 80% paid by schol foundation, 20% GF, seconded. Have heard testimony that 80% are school trust fund lands...Passed 1:17:03 ~ 1/22/2014 9:19:11 AM ~ 0102 adopted 1:17:11 ~ 1/22/2014 9:19:19 AM ~ pg 45 0103 adopted 1:17:31 ~ 1/22/2014 9:19:38 AM ~ pg 52 0104 adopted 1:17:44 ~ 1/22/2014 9:19:52 AM ~ pg 62 0105 adopted 1:17:55 ~ 1/22/2014 9:20:03 AM ~ pg 64 0107 adopted 1:18:05 ~ 1/22/2014 9:20:13 AM ~ pg 67 0109 adopted 1:18:16 ~ 1/22/2014 9:20:23 AM ~ pg 74 unit 0131 1:18:32 ~ 1/22/2014 9:20:40 AM ~ Bebout: questions to Brett, fund reduced at fed level, provide those numbers. no sense tying up GF if we are not going to use them, may be able to reduce further, provide amount of money used last time. could pick up M GF to use elsewhere 1:19:22 ~ 1/22/2014 9:21:30 AM ~ Jones: will follow up with agency on historical... 1:19:38 ~ 1/22/2014 9:21:46 AM ~ 0301 adopted 1:19:47 ~ 1/22/2014 9:21:55 AM ~ pg 77 0166 adopted 1:19:58 ~ 1/22/2014 9:22:06 AM ~ lpg 83 0201 1:20:23 ~ 1/22/2014 9:22:31 AM ~ Footnote? 1:20:35 ~ 1/22/2014 9:22:43 AM ~ Richards: Senator Hciks requested 350,000 for an authorized at will employee and ..... with the BLM t oassist in timber sales...under forestry division, one time funding. 1:21:14 ~ 1/22/2014 9:23:22 AM ~ bebout: 375,000 1:21:22 ~ 1/22/2014 9:23:30 AM ~ Richards: 370,000 1:21:29 ~ 1/22/2014 9:23:37 AM ~ Bebout: motion for 1 position and ....seconded, saw mill resource, fed govt not doing their bit, purpose is to harvest it. talked about BLM pay back out of royalties of harvested land. 1:22:21 ~ 1/22/2014 9:24:29 AM ~ richards: visited with Senator Hicks for that option and option of company repaying. 1st prohibited by fed gov as fund do not go to BLM, go to fed treasury 2nd cost prohibitive 1:23:01 ~ 1/22/2014 9:25:08 AM ~ Harshman: part time work, price seems high. 1:23:11 ~ 1/22/2014 9:25:19 AM ~ Richards:: 1 AWAC, could be fulltime, year round and 1 part time..need to specifiy the postion being cut 1:23:41 ~ 1/22/2014 9:25:49 AM ~ Harshman: person out in forest marking trees? 1:23:50 ~ 1/22/2014 9:25:57 AM ~ Bebout: one working with BLM to be allowed to do it and also marking trees, cut to one position 1:24:20 ~ 1/22/2014 9:26:28 AM ~ nicholas: discusssion of current staff at agency doing this work? 1:24:33 ~ 1/22/2014 9:26:40 AM ~ Bebout: division does not feel like it can do it. 1:24:52 ~ 1/22/2014 9:27:00 AM ~ meier: have it contracted so do not increase state employees,,might be cheaper, flexibiilty in footnote, logging company expertise, 1:25:54 ~ 1/22/2014 9:28:02 AM ~ motion to cut amount to 175,000, one AWAC employee adopted 1:26:20 ~ 1/22/2014 9:28:28 AM ~ Stubson: bark beetle funding, gov additional funding to reduce 1:26:46 ~ 1/22/2014 9:28:54 AM ~ harshman: in go letter 1:26:51 ~ 1/22/2014 9:28:59 AM ~ Stubson: cut to 3.5 M seconded, gov office figures, dept of forestry discussion, ....ensure there is money to deal with it but money can be absorbed and used efficiently. 1:27:40 ~ 1/22/2014 9:29:48 AM ~ harshman: motion to take to zero and deal with it in gov letter. A to A 1:27:57 ~ 1/22/2014 9:30:05 AM ~ Bebout; fine with it 1:28:02 ~ 1/22/2014 9:30:10 AM ~ A to A adopted..original motion amended adopted. 1:28:16 ~ 1/22/2014 9:30:24 AM ~ Richards: sponsor of Hicks amendment is it new money or out of pine beetle 1:28:36 ~ 1/22/2014 9:30:44 AM ~ Bebout: one time money, can fix when we get to gov letter..that amount is now zero so will have to be zero 1:28:58 ~ 1/22/2014 9:31:06 AM ~ unit 0201 adopted 1:29:10 ~ 1/22/2014 9:31:17 AM ~ pg 87 5001 adopted 1:29:20 ~ 1/22/2014 9:31:28 AM ~ pg 91 0301 adopted 1:29:30 ~ 1/22/2014 9:31:38 AM ~ pg 97 0401 1:29:46 ~ 1/22/2014 9:31:54 AM ~ Bebout: object code 0901 prof fees . move to zero., seconded. 1:30:02 ~ 1/22/2014 9:32:10 AM ~ meier: isn't that the area on fire suppression? testimony that it would save a lot of money to stop fires early. 1:30:40 ~ 1/22/2014 9:32:48 AM ~ bebout: have contract for 105 days, have fire suppression accoutn if they need it 1:31:00 ~ 1/22/2014 9:33:08 AM ~ Motion adopted 1:31:03 ~ 1/22/2014 9:33:11 AM ~ harshman: amendment to two crew carriers, 240,000 pg 94 narrative. cut in half., seconded, adopted. 1:31:34 ~ 1/22/2014 9:33:41 AM ~ 0401 gov rec as amended, adopted 1:31:58 ~ 1/22/2014 9:34:06 AM ~ pg 102 cap con - mineral impact different from reg cap con grant program 33 m is biennial amount, have list of projects, distributed around the state from ambulance purchase to work on land fills. 1:32:50 ~ 1/22/2014 9:34:58 AM ~ harshman: move to set aside 10 M for life resource center and state hospital 1:33:19 ~ 1/22/2014 9:35:27 AM ~ Bebout: earmarked 1:33:30 ~ 1/22/2014 9:35:38 AM ~ Meier: take from 33 to 23? 1:33:37 ~ 1/22/2014 9:35:45 AM ~ harshman: of 33, set aside 10 M for life resource and state hospital 1:33:52 ~ 1/22/2014 9:36:00 AM ~ Meier: premature...will need money in the future to deal with it..cities and towns..used for sewer and water projects, hope to not dimenish the account, to the local govts, other areas for that money 1:35:06 ~ 1/22/2014 9:37:14 AM ~ Dockstader: pull 10 m and put it into 2 facilites, stand against the amendment 1:35:28 ~ 1/22/2014 9:37:36 AM ~ Amendment Failed 1:35:51 ~ 1/22/2014 9:37:59 AM ~ Bebout: we need discussion about this..large amount of money . questons some grants, maybe better ways to do it. 1:36:51 ~ 1/22/2014 9:38:59 AM ~ Harshman: comentary 1:36:56 ~ 1/22/2014 9:39:04 AM ~ Nicholas: amendment. take 3 M , offset by 6 M paid into two sweetwater and fremond county courthouses....half from GF and half from this fund 1:37:37 ~ 1/22/2014 9:39:45 AM ~ harshman: total is still 6 M but source is 3 m from cap con, 0902 and 3 from GF 1:37:56 ~ 1/22/2014 9:40:03 AM ~ Meier: taking from all the cities, towns and counties, angst with SLIP program motion to cut in half, spend it all in first half of bienniuem, I speak against this amendment. 1:38:46 ~ 1/22/2014 9:40:54 AM ~ Motion adopted. 1:39:26 ~ 1/22/2014 9:41:34 AM ~ Bebout: 7 house, 5 senators, will remember. 1:39:43 ~ 1/22/2014 9:41:51 AM ~ Harshman: in statutue fund is to alleviate an emergency situation, fed or state mandate, provide an essential.service. On list, is only one emergency, rest are bits here and there. Amendmetn to rpovide beautification to highway entrances to towns and cities. 1:40:57 ~ 1/22/2014 9:43:05 AM ~ perkins: broaden scope and reduction 1:41:04 ~ 1/22/2014 9:43:12 AM ~ Harshman: broaden scope 1:41:13 ~ 1/22/2014 9:43:21 AM ~ meier: agree that we need to discuss what these funds should be used for..used to be only ambulances and fire trucks but cities and towns had more pressing needs thatn that. refocus on what cities, towns, counties actually need, sooner better. lot of funds in beautification in the hgihway dept, have downtown program with business council, have sufficient funds for goals trying to get more money for. resist this.. 1:42:52 ~ 1/22/2014 9:44:59 AM ~ Harshman: 8 fire trucks in last biennium. issue - legitimate emergencies, as aprpriations need a handle on this..when we say matching funds do not mean get the funds from the state. 1:43:54 ~ 1/22/2014 9:46:02 AM ~ Burkhart: constituent complaints about what state looks like so I support the amendment 1:44:13 ~ 1/22/2014 9:46:21 AM ~ Motion adopted. 1:44:28 ~ 1/22/2014 9:46:35 AM ~ Bebout: explain amendments 1:44:47 ~ 1/22/2014 9:46:55 AM ~ harshman 0902 #1 set aside 3 M for two county court projects, dispalce 3 M in GF #2 - add into funding formula community beautification. 1:45:35 ~ 1/22/2014 9:47:42 AM ~ Richards: consistent with my ntoes. do you want to sbe specific about the two court buildings or general 1:45:52 ~ 1/22/2014 9:48:00 AM ~ harshman: specific, we were yesterday, it is a funding swap. 1:46:06 ~ 1/22/2014 9:48:14 AM ~ meier: go back into that gov letter andtake that specific funding out, or free up for other projects. 1:46:26 ~ 1/22/2014 9:48:34 AM ~ Bebout: gov letter has precedence over the budget 1:46:38 ~ 1/22/2014 9:48:46 AM ~ Richards: interpreted as a subsequent motion to the acton yesterday, which revised the impact of that motion. 1:47:00 ~ 1/22/2014 9:49:08 AM ~ Bebout: procedurally. If we vote for the gov letter, then do something in the budget after that, it changes the gov letter. 1:47:26 ~ 1/22/2014 9:49:34 AM ~ Richards: in past have done encompassing amendments. We look at it s the last action trumps the prior. 1:47:42 ~ 1/22/2014 9:49:50 AM ~ Bebout; jsut want to be consistent. 1:47:52 ~ 1/22/2014 9:50:00 AM ~ pag 102 0902 gov rec as amended adopted. 1:48:05 ~ 1/22/2014 9:50:12 AM ~ pg 107 unit 0201 adopted 1:48:22 ~ 1/22/2014 9:50:30 AM ~ pg 111 6801 adopted. 1:48:36 ~ 1/22/2014 9:50:44 AM ~ Bebout: proposed footnote.. upon request of the state loan and investment board...up to 2 M i...... second. under current statute language to do up to 2 M but language that says they can do what they want if it is consistent with duties and responsibiitie.s spent 11 M on a ranch last year without any of us knowing about it. NC and Converse county ranch has no trespassing signs on it, should change the statute as well. 1:50:11 ~ 1/22/2014 9:52:19 AM ~ Meier: not withstanding language on they can do anything they want? 1:50:24 ~ 1/22/2014 9:52:32 AM ~ Richards: will have to get a copy of this amendment.. 1:50:35 ~ 1/22/2014 9:52:43 AM ~ Bebout: previous one did not but that is the intent. 1:50:45 ~ 1/22/2014 9:52:53 AM ~ Harshman; generally written notwithstanding.. 1:51:02 ~ 1/22/2014 9:53:10 AM ~ Amendment adopted any other on agency 60 1:51:15 ~ 1/22/2014 9:53:23 AM ~ Richards: 13-14 bieenium footnote carryover provision for trust preservation acct, not requested this time. 1:51:37 ~ 1/22/2014 9:53:45 AM ~ harshman: how much in accoutn? 1:51:44 ~ 1/22/2014 9:53:52 AM ~ Richards: do not know, fiber optic lines discussino, locaton for that. 1:52:00 ~ 1/22/2014 9:54:07 AM ~ harshman: first issue, revert the funds, no amendment 1:52:21 ~ 1/22/2014 9:54:29 AM ~ Bebout: fiber optics - footnote that ask them to look at the dispostion of that asset..10 or 15 years has been there, do not know if it has any value. Motion for footnote that they actively seek to divest of that asset in the most cost effective way. seconded. 1:53:10 ~ 1/22/2014 9:55:18 AM ~ harshman: acquired through bankruptcy? 1:53:28 ~ 1/22/2014 9:55:35 AM ~ Ricahrds: SLID board should...seek to divest of fiber optics line west of laramie.....trust lands , report to JAC in Oct. dispute because one company owns cheyenee to sinclair, the other from sinclair to evanston. company of eastern half has turned over ownership. Western half company has not.. dispute...... 1:54:52 ~ 1/22/2014 9:57:00 AM ~ harshman: coulddivest before we come back into session? 1:55:08 ~ 1/22/2014 9:57:16 AM ~ Richards: tecnically could divest tomorrow... language in for something different. 1:55:24 ~ 1/22/2014 9:57:32 AM ~ harshman: move to amend motion. lwant resolution but we shoudl be involved before divested. second, 1:56:00 ~ 1/22/2014 9:58:08 AM ~ Bebout: might be something to utilize if unifed network moves forward, ETS and state SLIP people use in negotiations. only concern. all conjecture..want something done before it is absolutely worhtless.. other fiber has been built from CA to Chicago, goes through our state, no offshoot in our state. 1:57:08 ~ 1/22/2014 9:59:16 AM ~ A to A motion defeated. 1:57:22 ~ 1/22/2014 9:59:30 AM ~ original amendment adotped. 1:57:29 ~ 1/22/2014 9:59:37 AM ~ agency 060 motion to close adopted. 1:57:46 ~ 1/22/2014 9:59:54 AM ~ Resume with agency 63 after break 1:58:00 ~ 1/22/2014 10:00:07 AM ~ 1:58:05 ~ 1/22/2014 10:21:54 AM ~ 2015 - 2016 Budget Markup continued Chairman Harshman 1:58:21 ~ 1/22/2014 10:22:10 AM ~ 063 - gov residence pg 8 0101 adopted 1:58:34 ~ 1/22/2014 10:22:23 AM ~ pg 12 - 0201 adopted 1:58:50 ~ 1/22/2014 10:22:40 AM ~ close agency 63 adoped 1:58:56 ~ 1/22/2014 10:22:46 AM ~ AGency 66 Wyoming Touris m Board 1:59:16 ~ 1/22/2014 10:23:05 AM ~ pg 16 unit 0101Stubson, reduce to 1 employee, seconded. Carried. Bebout amendment 0102, zero budget and move $900,000 to 101 unit, pay for half of going into Seattle market, seconded. Stubson amendment, but leave full funding for Seattle market, seconded. Discussion. Failed. original amendment; passed. 2:05:06 ~ 1/22/2014 10:28:56 AM ~ Wallis: amendment for team wyoming rodeo, $560,000 for biennium, seconded. Discussion Bebout amendment to reduce budget to $340,000, no second. Discussion. Harshman amendment to reduce incentive piece of $120,000, seconded. Failed. Adopted. 2:18:18 ~ 1/22/2014 10:42:07 AM ~ Unit 0101 Gov's rec, as amended. passed 2:18:47 ~ 1/22/2014 10:42:37 AM ~ Unit 0102, motion governos' rec as amended. Passed 2:19:05 ~ 1/22/2014 10:42:55 AM ~ Agency 066 adopted. 2:19:12 ~ 1/22/2014 10:43:02 AM ~ Agency 067, University of Wyoming Unit 6701, motion governor's rec; Meier amendment $1M to library fund; no second 2:21:05 ~ 1/22/2014 10:44:55 AM ~ Moniz amendment rodeo, provide $100,000 for UW rodeo club, one-time, $35,000 for community colleges; seconded. Harshman amendment to request a plan to move to athletic department, if possible; seconded. Carried. Amendment carried 2:27:28 ~ 1/22/2014 10:51:18 AM ~ Bebout: Any conflict with tourism amendment and this last amendment? 2:28:23 ~ 1/22/2014 10:52:12 AM ~ Richards: No 2:28:28 ~ 1/22/2014 10:52:18 AM ~ Moniz amendment to specify Athletic Department; seconded. Passed 2:29:41 ~ 1/22/2014 10:53:30 AM ~ Burkhart amendment to department of engineering for rare earth, applied research for value added, keep remainder of last year's funds plus $1M additional for biennium, one-time; seconded. Discussion. Bebout amendment to reduce to $500,000 with required match from non-state funds; seconded. Discussion. Carried. Amendment adopted. 2:42:53 ~ 1/22/2014 11:06:43 AM ~ Boswell, $51M request. half to be raised outside. $9M internal resources include prior appropriations for engineering program and redirected, tier 1 engineering proposal and HiBay. 2:49:41 ~ 1/22/2014 11:13:30 AM ~ Harshman amendment to set aside 1:2 qualifying donations, $4M bieniuum, to Cowboy Joe, matching funds used only for students, half available first year; seconded. Discussion. Bebout amendment for $1M each years; seconded. Carried. Original motion carried 2:55:30 ~ 1/22/2014 11:19:19 AM ~ Harshman amendment UW, Laramie campus, 11,000 full-time students by fall, 2014, will increase block grant by $2.5M. 11,333 full-time students, another $2.5M by fall, 2015, seconded. Bebout, $2.5M block grant, biennium, lose it if not achieved; seconded. Discussion. Amendment carried. Meier amendment; seconded. adopted. Original motion adopted. 3:01:08 ~ 1/22/2014 11:24:58 AM ~ Harshman amendment to achieve 80% retention by end of biennium, set aside $2,670,000 used for merit based pay; seconded. Discussion. Defeated. 3:05:27 ~ 1/22/2014 11:43:28 AM ~ Harshman amendment to report to JAC reconstruction of residence halls, separately or jointly; seconded. Discussion. Wallis amendment to also include options for on-going operations, seconded. Carried. Original amendment passed 3:10:24 ~ 1/22/2014 11:48:25 AM ~ Harshman: Granting reduced tuition status to neighboring states, status; seconded. Carried. 3:10:58 ~ 1/22/2014 11:48:59 AM ~ Harshman amendment for UW and $10,000 each community college to reduce costs for room and board during summer time for extra cirriculum students, athletes and student government, seconded. Discussion. Requirement for room and board run as enterprise account statutory or not? Boswell, done by university policy. Carried. 3:17:57 ~ 1/22/2014 11:55:59 AM ~