File name: JACBudgetHearings2014_20131216_124813.dcr Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\happropriations\My Documents\JAC Audio 2014 0 ~ 12/16/2013 12:59:18 PM ~ Start Recording 2 ~ 12/16/2013 12:59:20 PM ~ December 16, 2013 057 - WCCC - Community College Commission 39 ~ 12/16/2013 12:59:57 PM ~ Beout; welcome 54 ~ 12/16/2013 1:00:12 PM ~ Rose: 1:09 ~ 12/16/2013 1:00:27 PM ~ Bebout: give overview then page by page. 1:17 ~ 12/16/2013 1:00:35 PM ~ Rose: Commission and community college have been working in concert to devlop budget. Engaged in conversation involving commission, trustee groups and colleges themselves to devlop means to focus on student success. Wyoming's approrach has been to join state..complete college america. Complete College Wyoming group made up of rep members of colleges, truesteees and commission to develop performance bsed ...cost related to delivery of instruction to student. performance metrics that allocate resources based on students who complete courses, not enroll in courses. Committment to enhance staudent success. 5:03 ~ 12/16/2013 1:04:21 PM ~ Dockstader: Timeframe on program? 5:20 ~ 12/16/2013 1:04:38 PM ~ Rose: Initial implementation of first perf gauge process wil begin with FY 14. set aside 15% of variable costs and allocate on course completion. 6:20 ~ 12/16/2013 1:05:37 PM ~ Meier: Si completion differentiated between higher more expensive courses and basics courses? 6:37 ~ 12/16/2013 1:05:55 PM ~ Rose: it is a weighted avg. 3 lebels...factors included ni overall allocation. 7:14 ~ 12/16/2013 1:06:32 PM ~ Meier: historical data? 7:23 ~ 12/16/2013 1:06:40 PM ~ Rose: We are basing what we are going to do on data. Colleges can share how they institute practices that create success. Collaberation. 8:32 ~ 12/16/2013 1:07:49 PM ~ Meier: 3 yr or 5 yr rolling agv or year to year? 8:41 ~ 12/16/2013 1:07:59 PM ~ Rose: Accumulation of credit over an academic year, metric wil move up. Complete Wyoming has agreed toincentivizing progress in terms of inc number of completions. Complete wyoming agenda has said that completion rate will inc at 5% per year. ov 10:01 ~ 12/16/2013 1:09:18 PM ~ Meier": What is rate now? 10:10 ~ 12/16/2013 1:09:28 PM ~ Rose: Based on 150% of time to complete normal associate..3 year. Our rate is 28.7% so less than 3 in 10 complete if they fit mold of full imte student...eetc. Work to do but well above avg in rest of country. 11:10 ~ 12/16/2013 1:10:28 PM ~ Wallis: Clarification - 15% of instructional dollars towards course completion agenda, rolling out this year. contemplating percentage will inc over time, proposed timeline? 11:51 ~ 12/16/2013 1:11:08 PM ~ Rose: FY 15/16 = 15% of variable costs which = 40% of total funds so 6% of total budget. Fy 16 = 20% of variable = 8% of total budget . May add other things like how quickly complete,..want to improve remedial, some incentives not developed yet. Do not want national agenda. want to devlop model that works for Wyoming. 13:32 ~ 12/16/2013 1:12:50 PM ~ Harshman: Esquibel and Meier will present this budget on the floor. 13:55 ~ 12/16/2013 1:13:13 PM ~ Moniz: What year for 20%? 14:05 ~ 12/16/2013 1:13:23 PM ~ Rose: FY 16 - second year of biennium 14:15 ~ 12/16/2013 1:13:33 PM ~ harshman: GPA and ACT for Hathaway. Some school districts have lowered passing from 70% to 60%. ,,lower the bar? 15:13 ~ 12/16/2013 1:14:30 PM ~ Rose: Can not dilute requirements of a program. We are endeavoring to keep faculty vitally involved in this discussion. Seen at college level is disconnect between expectations in HS and college. Remedial education delivery.. Talk to high schools . ACT -college readiness gauge. If below a certain level and take another test, it is another ACT test.. Assessment of stds state is adopting need to be in sync with what the collegs are expecting. Students with Proficiency scores of 3 or 4 should not be placed in remedial training.. Over 30% of Hathaway scholarship participants are receiving remedial instruction. 18:39 ~ 12/16/2013 1:17:57 PM ~ harshman: Tax on familys not voted on, fairness, .. 19:10 ~ 12/16/2013 1:18:28 PM ~ Harshman: instructions for budget presentation. 19:33 ~ 12/16/2013 1:18:51 PM ~ Bebout: fremont countyu issue reason for being gone. 19:52 ~ 12/16/2013 1:19:10 PM ~ Rose: pg 9 of budget book - summary in spread sheet. Administration: gov rec approval of std. Placed in priority order. pg 11 is priority 2. First priority is funding colelges through state aid. priority 2 - funding with comp maint. Approval of 531,000 rec approval. data processing and training has gov denial of 10,000 travel for IT staff training. 27,000 remainder of budget rec for approval. Req for 76,000 in additional funding because of active commission, so more travel . Gov rec 30,000 of funding and a reallocation of funding for remainder . Priority 5 gov rec denial, find resources within agency to fund instate, internal staff travel. Priority 6: In 2013 -14, receive appropriation for longitudtinal data staudy....Gov rec an additional year of funding for 94,000. . 23:55 ~ 12/16/2013 1:23:13 PM ~ Rose: pg 20 : std budget req for family literacy program, gov rec of std budget, some programs are operated in conjuncion with comm colleges, some independent. 8 sites 3.2 M was gov rec approval. 24:58 ~ 12/16/2013 1:24:16 PM ~ Rose: pg 24 - largest single portion of budget - Gov rec of 178 M. GF standard aid request for colleges for the bieenium. 25:41 ~ 12/16/2013 1:24:59 PM ~ Meier: 14349 - is that the enrollment adjustment. 25:53 ~ 12/16/2013 1:25:11 PM ~ Rose: That is an exception request..not in std. that is derived from inc. in enrollments. provison of statutue to callibrate enrollment and costs associated with changes in enrollments. Base budget in std budget is from base period of 2004-05. Sign inc in enrollment and costs, more than double digit. Priority 1 pg 25 exception request is to move that amount and recalibrate the base period every 4 years..to give stability in funding. Asking for exc request to be part of std budget ... 28:18 ~ 12/16/2013 1:27:36 PM ~ meier: Waht was actual dollar figure for state aid the last biennium about 7.5 M--did you get 28 or 29? 28:42 ~ 12/16/2013 1:27:59 PM ~ Rose: exception budget request for one time funding does not roll into std budget.. 6% budget cut last year. Exception request is recalculated every year. 7.5 M appropriation. 29:37 ~ 12/16/2013 1:28:55 PM ~ Bebout: Colleges and universities were one of the few that were biennialized. Gov put at 8 - so biennialization would have been 7 or 8..choose not to put in there? 30:18 ~ 12/16/2013 1:29:36 PM ~ Rose: GF appropriation for . 180 M and 182 M for last 2 bienniums. 2015-16 = 178M 31:07 ~ 12/16/2013 1:30:25 PM ~ Meier: trying to reconcile numbers. 31:23 ~ 12/16/2013 1:30:40 PM ~ Harshman: Proposal - 178M is minus health care. Want to add 14 M to that which will take the 09-10 headcut of 18194 of full time equiv students. 09-10 number is going down. What was it on the bse of 2004-05? 32:20 ~ 12/16/2013 1:31:37 PM ~ Rose: data in submission data went to 07-08. .. 33:29 ~ 12/16/2013 1:32:47 PM ~ Bebout: please get that and submit. ? for Brett - review recommended. Formula based on growth. What does Gov have in mind? 34:18 ~ 12/16/2013 1:33:35 PM ~ Jones: Community colleges should have the money they need. Challenge for budget division to sort through enrollment piece. Historical funding has never been 100% of the reuqest...Gov took into account 6.8 M ...Struggle with calculation, local revenues, property tax revenues, tuition and fee revenues..what he is getting at. .. 36:23 ~ 12/16/2013 1:35:41 PM ~ Rose: Number for base year = FTE = 14,774.9 36:53 ~ 12/16/2013 1:36:11 PM ~ Bebout: if at 14479, then a certain level of funding. Now at 17+, what is that numbered? How that number flows forward. 37:27 ~ 12/16/2013 1:36:45 PM ~ Rose: 05 = 147.4 M thebn 160.4 M for FY 07. 37:48 ~ 12/16/2013 1:37:06 PM ~ Bebout: now at ...what are projections for enrollment growth? 38:08 ~ 12/16/2013 1:37:26 PM ~ Rose: Data we have suggest 2009-10 as calibration year is not the highest period of enrollment. inc up until previous biennium. Datd is now indicating a flattening out. Overall, enrollment not on as steep of a climb. 39:08 ~ 12/16/2013 1:38:25 PM ~ Bebout: In 04-05, roughly 9950. then 9970 so relatively falt based on enrollment to state dollars? 39:44 ~ 12/16/2013 1:39:02 PM ~ Rose: reasonable..enrollment portion of model is about 40% of over all budget - fixed costs are in there also.. 40:29 ~ 12/16/2013 1:39:47 PM ~ Bebout: inflationary ..Don, do we have numbers? comparision of FTE in 04 05 relative to $, relative to today FTE and %. What is inflationary, what isn't? 41:11 ~ 12/16/2013 1:40:29 PM ~ Harshman: enrollment growth --how many are online? 41:30 ~ 12/16/2013 1:40:48 PM ~ Rose: Community college delivers more online than any other sector of education. It is a minor part of actual isntruction we deliver. Proportions vary between coleges. Inc. participation of dual enrollment for High School students. 42:38 ~ 12/16/2013 1:41:55 PM ~ Harshman: Get us that number with dual enrollment split out...We are dual counting high school kids. Newspaper stated tuition inc of $4 per hour. tuition inc every year since 04? Gov rec. You must have total dollars in the system that we never see. I would like tosee it..Testimony last week since 2006...%'s . How much has it grown and how much of it is due to enrollment? 44:19 ~ 12/16/2013 1:43:37 PM ~ Rose: WE have it, can provide spreadsheet about tuition. IN 2004-2005, credit hour charge for student = 55. Up 2 per year for 2 years then 3 per year until 09-10 where there was no inc. since then a 2 inc and two &4 inc. 45:16 ~ 12/16/2013 1:44:34 PM ~ Bebout: Show us numbers. 45:27 ~ 12/16/2013 1:44:45 PM ~ Harshman: Those will be the questions we will get on the floor, 45:39 ~ 12/16/2013 1:44:56 PM ~ Rose: spreadsheet with complete picture of operatonal costs and funding features...sources of rev, 45:57 ~ 12/16/2013 1:45:15 PM ~ meier: Two types of classes not taken into enrollment dist.. Online, concurrent enrollment, on line in HS. false assumption that online is cheaper, may be incorrect..Statutoriarily or by rule - if rule, time to add classifications? 47:09 ~ 12/16/2013 1:46:26 PM ~ Rose: It is included inr ules that deal with our funding process. Post secondary option law says student can bear no cost. Cooleges and school district have agreement for cost sharing. Will assemble the data. Link on website you can refer to. 48:04 ~ 12/16/2013 1:47:21 PM ~ Hill: Gov's frustration with this funding formula, appropriate compensation package, tried to identify salary amounts, he could not do it. unlike the k-12 funding modal. Near to impossible to arrive at a solid number for salary inc. ..how were collegs able to fund salry inc during a time of budget cuts. Wants more transparency. 49:33 ~ 12/16/2013 1:48:51 PM ~ Bebout: Sheet from A and I - explanation? Compared salaries of Central CC to k-12 salries.. 50:21 ~ 12/16/2013 1:49:39 PM ~ Jones: Handout from data collected over summer with assistance of commission staff, 7 colleges, uniform format, Economic analysis division assembled info. Starting salary of 50,000, calculated impact of info from collegs on that salary over time. Common 50,000 salary and % change . 51:32 ~ 12/16/2013 1:50:50 PM ~ Bebout: pick 50 as a starting point.. 51:47 ~ 12/16/2013 1:51:05 PM ~ Jones: Info collected varyied from college to college in terms of methodology of giving pay inc. Step inc, There are individual sheets from each college. Commission staff feedback. 52:38 ~ 12/16/2013 1:51:56 PM ~ Bebout: Reclassification? 52:46 ~ 12/16/2013 1:52:03 PM ~ Jones: don't believ.. 52:52 ~ 12/16/2013 1:52:10 PM ~ Bebout: Step inc? 52:58 ~ 12/16/2013 1:52:15 PM ~ Jones: in a number of inc. colleges have step plans. 53:09 ~ 12/16/2013 1:52:27 PM ~ Bebout: Numbers would have inc step and reclassification 53:20 ~ 12/16/2013 1:52:38 PM ~ Jones: not sure of reclassification. 53:27 ~ 12/16/2013 1:52:45 PM ~ Rose: spreadsheet asked colleges to fill out, supplied to budget diviison, merit, step incr. merit bonus, mkt adjustment, funding for educational advancement, 54:48 ~ 12/16/2013 1:54:06 PM ~ Bebout: colleges. 55:06 ~ 12/16/2013 1:54:24 PM ~ Joanne McFarland: Salary history back to 1984 - Central Wyoming College President, rece 3 salary apropriations in 2002, 2008. 2009. 9.4% inc. according to Jones analysis. Happened when we had very low starting pay. avg pay 13.7% below avg starting pay of K-12. Market difficulties for all community colleges. Offerred to employees an experience step.. Provided memo to JAC, cut 170,000 in operating budgets, cut 181,000 in staffing, including eliminating 6 positions. 59:53 ~ 12/16/2013 1:59:11 PM ~ Bebout: Positions, vacant? 1:00:02 ~ 12/16/2013 1:59:20 PM ~ McFarland: all wer occupied positions. 1:00:14 ~ 12/16/2013 1:59:31 PM ~ Jennifer Ray, executive director of Human resources, Central Wyoming College, salary study. : comp plan based on 2.5% median, not across the baord, context: But for college process of putting in step inc, employees would have had a cut in pay..3.4%, We will have to go to mkt to fill, starting salaries are insufficeient to recruit and fil positions. prof staff, faculty. I looked at hayes study with results of certified preacticing teachers, masters level. We are behind..avg of 13%. Senior faculty about 3%. We need to undertake a market study. 2005 for faculty and prof was last time study was done. 1:03:26 ~ 12/16/2013 2:02:43 PM ~ Bebout: Have other colleges..Executive summary distributed. 1:03:51 ~ 12/16/2013 2:03:09 PM ~ Jones: seen numbers? 1:03:57 ~ 12/16/2013 2:03:15 PM ~ Jones: I have not. 1:04:01 ~ 12/16/2013 2:03:19 PM ~ Bebout: from 2010 to now in real dollars done 3.4%? .... 1:04:23 ~ 12/16/2013 2:03:41 PM ~ jennifer: Net pay difference taking into acct step inc and 1% cola, about 7.8% different, which is about the overall rate of inflation over time. 1:05:13 ~ 12/16/2013 2:04:31 PM ~ Bebout; number agree with? 1:05:30 ~ 12/16/2013 2:04:48 PM ~ Ray: .explanation. 9.4$ is about correct if you take into .....f 1:06:03 ~ 12/16/2013 2:05:21 PM ~ bebout: step inc. 1:06:08 ~ 12/16/2013 2:05:26 PM ~ Ray: 880 for classified, 1000 for fauclty and 1000 for prof staff. 1:06:24 ~ 12/16/2013 2:05:42 PM ~ Bebout: Medians? 1:06:31 ~ 12/16/2013 2:05:49 PM ~ Ray: will provide. 1:06:35 ~ 12/16/2013 2:05:53 PM ~ Bebout: Talking about where you started out and have not kept up. Other colleges?Thank you Joanne for 25 years of service, now retiring. 1:07:17 ~ 12/16/2013 2:06:34 PM ~ Armstrong: Eastern Wyoming College. 9.9% on that list. Small college, financially challenged, Story nearly identical to Central College. Dispell that community colleges are flush and rich, longivity at about 2.5, have funded at times, have not other times. To stay competitive, ..recaptured distribution dollars, not funding positions, WE put that first, find the dollars someway..funded well, but not overly. 1:10:59 ~ 12/16/2013 2:10:17 PM ~ Meier: Salaries, what range? 1:11:16 ~ 12/16/2013 2:10:34 PM ~ Armstrong: $32,000 often begining salary 1:12:15 ~ 12/16/2013 2:11:33 PM ~ Waltey: Casper College, 2.8% salary increase. 1:14:06 ~ 12/16/2013 2:13:23 PM ~ Schaffer: Laramie County Community College, 2.8% COLA, monies realized from internal reorganization. Time to conduct comprehensive salary study for community colleges, possibly funded by legislature. 1:16:17 ~ 12/16/2013 2:15:35 PM ~ Wallis: Enrollment growth discussion, salary discussion concentration. How managing demand for workforce training 1:18:17 ~ 12/16/2013 2:17:35 PM ~ Engler: Gillette, increase in career and tech areas, have received funding from counties, city, hospital 1:19:56 ~ 12/16/2013 2:19:14 PM ~ Wallis: Gillette College, FTE cost $5179 for BY15-16 without enrollment growth piece 1:21:29 ~ 12/16/2013 2:20:47 PM ~ Engler: Impact would be dramatic. 1:21:56 ~ 12/16/2013 2:21:14 PM ~ Rose: Different revenues different for every junior college. 1:23:38 ~ 12/16/2013 2:22:56 PM ~ 1:23:43 ~ 12/16/2013 2:23:01 PM ~ Pause 1:23:43 ~ 12/16/2013 2:32:02 PM ~ Resume 1:23:49 ~ 12/16/2013 2:32:08 PM ~ Bebout: Enrollment 1:24:09 ~ 12/16/2013 2:32:28 PM ~ Esquibel: turnover of staff 1:24:48 ~ 12/16/2013 2:33:07 PM ~ Rose: Staff turnover in community colleges, more centered on how instruction is done. 1:27:21 ~ 12/16/2013 2:35:39 PM ~ Hastert: Enrollment growth different than salary increases. Accurate? 1:28:22 ~ 12/16/2013 2:36:41 PM ~ Rose: Yes, it is accurate. Diversity among the community colleges and pool of individuals available. Award each community college a block grant, and each community colleges makes individual decisions about salaries. 1:30:03 ~ 12/16/2013 2:38:22 PM ~ Wallis: Include enrollment growth formula into block grant, does it solve problem? 1:32:37 ~ 12/16/2013 2:40:56 PM ~ Rose: Accurate, Block grant, but driven by variable costs including completion component and enrollment. 1:34:50 ~ 12/16/2013 2:43:09 PM ~ Meier: Money for salary increase, block grant? 1:36:40 ~ 12/16/2013 2:44:59 PM ~ Rose: Block grant to be shared among 7, based on population. 1:37:02 ~ 12/16/2013 2:45:21 PM ~ Rose: Health insurance contribution; standard budget approval ; reimbursements made to junior colleges based on staffing. 1:39:27 ~ 12/16/2013 2:47:46 PM ~ Rose: Bulk from Northern Wyoming Community College, which has high enrollment growth. 1:40:42 ~ 12/16/2013 2:49:01 PM ~ Rose: Special funding for libraries, $2.2M. standard budget, governor approved. Many are digital, maintenance on those resources 1:42:33 ~ 12/16/2013 2:50:52 PM ~ Harshman: Participate in WYLD? 1:42:46 ~ 12/16/2013 2:51:05 PM ~ Rose: Yes 1:42:50 ~ 12/16/2013 2:51:08 PM ~ Rose; Community reserve, $1.2M annually. Used for campus maintenance. Based on building inventory. Coal lease bonus dollars. 1:44:16 ~ 12/16/2013 2:52:35 PM ~ Wallis: Coal lease bonus listed by mineral royalties? 1:44:43 ~ 12/16/2013 2:53:02 PM ~ Richards: Did historically, but now corrected. 1:45:03 ~ 12/16/2013 2:53:22 PM ~ Rose: Page 38, Adult education. approve standard budget, governor. Change in way position funded. 1:45:55 ~ 12/16/2013 2:54:14 PM ~ Meier: 100% split? 1:46:07 ~ 12/16/2013 2:54:26 PM ~ Rose: Adjust for 80/20, some portion of general fund, not all federal. 1:46:49 ~ 12/16/2013 2:55:08 PM ~ Rose: Page 42, high school equivalency certificate, prior GED. Additional 2 testing available. 1:49:56 ~ 12/16/2013 2:58:15 PM ~ Rose: WIN loan program. 2 part, which offers student loans in nursing students and faculty. $300,000 exception request, governor approved $5.3M standard budget, with about half of exception request approval. 1:51:17 ~ 12/16/2013 2:59:36 PM ~ Rose: Central WY College would be entitled to 1 additional positon in biennium. 1:53:24 ~ 12/16/2013 3:01:43 PM ~ Rose: page 50, federal tuition waiver program. 2006 for Vietnam vets, and later amended. Great demand by overseas combat vets. Exception request, eliminated $200,000 one-time. 1:56:32 ~ 12/16/2013 3:04:51 PM ~ Rose: Page 54, wyoming teacher replacement program. Program overfunded due to low participation. 1:57:43 ~ 12/16/2013 3:06:02 PM ~ Calbert: PBS. Preserve funding of $3.6M and exception request, which was governor denied. Approached tribal relations committee, and unanimously supported request. Zero based budgeting, Lots of travel to maintain 42 transmitters, $100,000. Serve 75,000 people weekly, 6,000 thru website. Production value: various television statewide programs. 2:04:22 ~ 12/16/2013 3:12:41 PM ~ Bebout: Productions thru private? 2:04:35 ~ 12/16/2013 3:12:54 PM ~ Calbert: Some private dollars, endowment dollars, production dollars. 2:04:54 ~ 12/16/2013 3:13:13 PM ~ Calbert: 2008, $1.5M endowment, now raised $1.2M for match. $500,000 raised annually from endowment. Must be matched by June 30, 2016. Education: outside industry funding. Online learning , giving some programs longer life by splitting productions and make them available to teachers online. Exception budget for $110,000 to produce learning module. 2:10:53 ~ 12/16/2013 3:19:12 PM ~ Calbert: 30% of Wyoming people have satellite. 2:12:52 ~ 12/16/2013 3:21:11 PM ~ Calbert: HD as well as SD, new digital equipment. No redundant system. BLM requiring that PBS reclaim sites. Fees are going up. 2:14:42 ~ 12/16/2013 3:23:01 PM ~ Richards: January 17, 2014, 1pm hearing, Sheridan College, page 24, page 14, LCCC. 2:21:12 ~ 12/16/2013 3:29:31 PM ~ Jones: FlexTech Building , LCCC, 1 of 2 buildings approved by Governor. $14M with 50/50 with public funding. 2:23:19 ~ 12/16/2013 3:31:38 PM ~ Schaffer: LCCC - workforce service...asked for approval of general obligation funds. advanced through state building commission and on to the governor. 2:24:35 ~ 12/16/2013 3:32:54 PM ~ Bebout: two bond issues, gov rec one . 2:24:45 ~ 12/16/2013 3:33:03 PM ~ Schaffer: correct, recommended funding for one. 2:24:58 ~ 12/16/2013 3:33:17 PM ~ Nicholas: Did the college have apriority? 2:25:05 ~ 12/16/2013 3:33:24 PM ~ Schaffer: Hard time differentiating between the 2 - We havea sign space shortage. Both are priorities. 535,000 sq ft deficit. If I had to choose ,could probably raise private funds and grants for the Flex building. Community colelge Commisions ranking. 2:26:31 ~ 12/16/2013 3:34:50 PM ~ Nicholas: Rankings..1 and 2, but one skipped over. 2:26:44 ~ 12/16/2013 3:35:03 PM ~ Schaffer: deferred to Buckhold 2:27:09 ~ 12/16/2013 3:35:28 PM ~ Buckhold: I am not prepared to speak to that today. The flex tech building scored 2 pts higher than the UW building..LCCC answered specific questions in how building structure met 5 year LCCC plan or Commissioners plan or adressed high deman or high value programs. Probably the two point difference. 2:28:22 ~ 12/16/2013 3:36:41 PM ~ Nicholas: Between next one? 2:28:41 ~ 12/16/2013 3:37:00 PM ~ Buckhold - will have at our meeting. 2:28:58 ~ 12/16/2013 3:37:16 PM ~ Stubson: listing of factors and weightings. 2:29:10 ~ 12/16/2013 3:37:29 PM ~ Esquibel: % of how voters voted. 2:29:18 ~ 12/16/2013 3:37:37 PM ~ Schaffer: 60/40 split of voters for/against 2:29:34 ~ 12/16/2013 3:37:53 PM ~ Bebout: how does bond language on ballot? 2:29:49 ~ 12/16/2013 3:38:08 PM ~ Schaffer: Both identified on ballot, funding for both, some flexibiilty in funding for each in the ballot. Regardles of leg funding, it will require legislative authority to move forward. 2:31:01 ~ 12/16/2013 3:39:20 PM ~ Bebout: 50 50 match? 2:31:09 ~ 12/16/2013 3:39:28 PM ~ Schaffer: based on 50/50; if it is 60/40 think there is flexibility..intent of 50/50. L 2:31:38 ~ 12/16/2013 3:39:57 PM ~ Bebout: limits? 2:31:43 ~ 12/16/2013 3:40:02 PM ~ Schaffer: limits on rates.. 2:31:53 ~ 12/16/2013 3:40:11 PM ~ Bebout: limiting factor is interest rate? 2:32:03 ~ 12/16/2013 3:40:22 PM ~ Schaffer: Yes, our cnocern, can not issue if bond interest rate creeps up over threshold. 2:32:24 ~ 12/16/2013 3:40:42 PM ~ Bebout: provide ballot language. 2:32:31 ~ 12/16/2013 3:40:50 PM ~ Bebout: One at UW, one at Laramie? 2:32:39 ~ 12/16/2013 3:40:58 PM ~ Schaffer: Yes, UW had request for level 2 funding for community college building, to inc our prescence in albany county campus. 800,000 for level 2 2:33:08 ~ 12/16/2013 3:41:26 PM ~ Bebout: How paying for it? 2:33:15 ~ 12/16/2013 3:41:34 PM ~ Schaffer: not sure if straight appropriation or.... 2:33:26 ~ 12/16/2013 3:41:45 PM ~ Bebout: bonding did not include that? 2:33:33 ~ 12/16/2013 3:41:52 PM ~ Schaffer: Correct. 2:33:39 ~ 12/16/2013 3:41:58 PM ~ Bebout: Eastern College - Dr. ARmstrong. 2:33:59 ~ 12/16/2013 3:42:17 PM ~ Armstrong: Eastern Wyoming College: STudy to rank buildings, recommendations from state building committee, looked at top 4 this year, ranked in the 90's. Do not know rationale of picking 1 and 3 over 2. Possibilites or options to look at additional projects. Our need iswelding program - regionally known. Program is growing, Dept of corrections partnership. ......Staff and faculty are what makes program good, looking at building replacement. INvite committee for members. Bldg looks good but wants building for right atmosphere,f or retaining and recruiting staff. 21.9 M request 900,000 rq for Goshen County. Lancer Hall requests expansion of wings, not asking for money, student housing. Congverse county, two recquests to fund that building. Two years ago, #5 on list, only top 4 funded. Citizens brought in money...county bearing about 100% of construction costs. Converse County Commissioners partnership. Lancer Hall at 100%, AG tech Center authorized, looking to find dollars, Wyoming Bus Council. Safety issues: ...Added virtual wedlers to our curriculum, cosmetology bldg has structure issues, Converse county expansion of allied health field,. Rationale for proposal ...Handbook...funding procedure language based on 6 mils of assessed vals of county. language in handbook, 21.9to do bldg that is first on Master Plan. Most we could raise is 6M. Reason for request being as high as it is. 2:43:00 ~ 12/16/2013 3:51:19 PM ~ Nicholas: If legislature approved this but required you to come up with 2 or 3 million. could you? 2:43:24 ~ 12/16/2013 3:51:43 PM ~ Armstrong: Bonded indebtedness, soft committmentsf or about 2 M for ag bldg. will be pressed to do residential expansion.. It would be a reach but nothing we would not consider. 2:44:21 ~ 12/16/2013 3:52:40 PM ~ Bebout; new bldg or modification. 2:44:28 ~ 12/16/2013 3:52:47 PM ~ Armstrong: new builiding. To maintain parking, the two metal buildings will be removed, supplement access to cafeteria and gy,. 2:45:10 ~ 12/16/2013 3:53:29 PM ~ bebout: Total number for all cap con..how much spent outside of the state. We recognize Goshen county funding ability. Fairness ... 2:45:55 ~ 12/16/2013 3:54:14 PM ~ Armstrong: 10 M in conversem, 4 M, 5 M --just under 20 M. We brought close to our college close to 20 M. 2:46:32 ~ 12/16/2013 3:54:51 PM ~ Bebout: Bonding or 5th penny? 2:46:40 ~ 12/16/2013 3:54:59 PM ~ Armstrong: did not 2:46:44 ~ 12/16/2013 3:55:02 PM ~ Bebout: Why not? 2:46:50 ~ 12/16/2013 3:55:09 PM ~ Meier: Passed sept penny and 1/4 penny for economic develop..only county in state to have it. AT 5 or 6 % on this building - at 1200% on two other buildings, so essentially at a 50/50 match. ...Premier welding program in state. Buildings have limited time period. ....Can talk to county commissoenrs and see what they can do. We have used cap con to pay for gravel to gravel roads. About half dozen counties are in same state (poor) Niobrera oil play did not pan out. 2:50:02 ~ 12/16/2013 3:58:21 PM ~ harshman: 69,000 sq ft building. Bldgings coming down, how big, major maintenance calculation, might be net add but not double ad to major maintenance. 2:50:37 ~ 12/16/2013 3:58:56 PM ~ bebout: Want to see overall situation, committment in terms of percentages. Central did a health bldg 65/35. ....Gov denied a 50/50. 2:51:16 ~ 12/16/2013 3:59:35 PM ~ Armstrong: Following line on 5% of assessed value of county, foundation, can look at major maintenance savings, and total dollars.. Bebout: Thanks 2:52:12 ~ 12/16/2013 4:00:31 PM ~ Armstrong: Without funding, the bldg won't be built.. will have to change the master plan. 50 million blocks, interesting principle to hear about dollars.. 2:53:04 ~ 12/16/2013 4:01:23 PM ~ Bebout: 50 million fund for the future? 2:53:11 ~ 12/16/2013 4:01:30 PM ~ Armstrong: Gov presentation on looking at all funding mechanisms. 2:53:27 ~ 12/16/2013 4:01:46 PM ~ Bebout: 60 M for state hospital, etc... 2:53:48 ~ 12/16/2013 4:02:07 PM ~ Armstrong... 2:53:52 ~ 12/16/2013 4:02:11 PM ~ Bebout: Thanks. 2:53:56 ~ 12/16/2013 4:02:15 PM ~ Bebout: Rejected colleges, new president at Sheridan. 2:54:14 ~ 12/16/2013 4:02:33 PM ~ Bebout: ag 2:54:33 ~ 12/16/2013 4:02:52 PM ~ Tieg: bldg built in 1982, no updates to lab, safety issues with labs, space deficiet on campus. 17000 remodel, gut, add 17000 sq ft. Science, ag and culinary programs combined labs. Culinary and AG are growing. 2:55:29 ~ 12/16/2013 4:03:48 PM ~ Bebout: .. 2:55:38 ~ 12/16/2013 4:03:57 PM ~ Tieg: requesting 6.5 M state match, not rec by gov. other 6.5 M was private match. 2:56:06 ~ 12/16/2013 4:04:25 PM ~ Bebout: Whitmeny foundation building up and operating? 2:56:15 ~ 12/16/2013 4:04:34 PM ~ Tieg: yes. Thank you. 2:56:22 ~ 12/16/2013 4:04:41 PM ~ Youtz: Central wyoming College, student success center, makin better use of existing buildings, incl one from 1968 and one from 1992, admin wing, main hall and library and 2 year lab. 100% committed to access and success..create spaces more accessible to students, provide all necesary support, moving to mandatory advisement. testing, tutoring, laboratory, registration, upgrading, renovating, some expansion, financial aid, registraton, advisement close, better arranging and up0dating space we have. Total = 5 M, ask for 2.5 M; seeking authorization to move forward. 2:59:28 ~ 12/16/2013 4:07:47 PM ~ Harshman: Other public funds. 50/50 funds match: what are they? 2:59:43 ~ 12/16/2013 4:08:02 PM ~ Youtz: They may be college, we may seek private. We have a 11.5 M county bond, reluctant to go to voters to seek funds. 3:00:13 ~ 12/16/2013 4:08:32 PM ~ Bebout: Equine center? 3:00:20 ~ 12/16/2013 4:08:39 PM ~ Youtz: Equine is in master plan. Top 2 projects are Jackson center and student success center. 3:00:42 ~ 12/16/2013 4:09:01 PM ~ Gillette college president: comprehensive community college, restricted by space, every classroom booked after 5 pm. partner with south central campus fo athletic ..will move to a high school by the fall of 2017. When that happens will not be able to provide access to us. Gillette and campbell county have only one floor that is 94 ffet long and it is at campbell county high school. Received private donation committment of 2 M, largest received. 100% match of public funds an a sinking fund for major maintenance. 3:03:16 ~ 12/16/2013 4:11:35 PM ~ Bebout: ..feet? 3:03:23 ~ 12/16/2013 4:11:42 PM ~ Harshman: major maint? 3:03:36 ~ 12/16/2013 4:11:55 PM ~ Inglar: sinking fund for matjor maint, 64000 sq feet 3:03:50 ~ 12/16/2013 4:12:09 PM ~ nicholas: amount of sinking fund? 3:03:59 ~ 12/16/2013 4:12:18 PM ~ Inglar ...perecent of budget. 3:04:25 ~ 12/16/2013 4:12:44 PM ~ Tieg: gave footage of 260,000 and 121000 3:04:45 ~ 12/16/2013 4:13:04 PM ~ Harshman: matching? 3:04:51 ~ 12/16/2013 4:13:10 PM ~ Ingler: .... 3:04:57 ~ 12/16/2013 4:13:16 PM ~ Harshman: if state comes up with funds, could leverage it? 3:05:06 ~ 12/16/2013 4:13:25 PM ~ Ingler: would work on that. 3:05:12 ~ 12/16/2013 4:13:31 PM ~ Leech: western Wyoming Community College. First project is #7 on list, renovate 9200 sq feet for student services, builit in 1986, unusable space, 1.264 M total, asking for 632000. local = construction resolution fund and gift gibven to college of private lots. Lots on market in Rock Springs.. 3:07:35 ~ 12/16/2013 4:15:54 PM ~ bebout: all say other public fund, appreciate specific 3:07:46 ~ 12/16/2013 4:16:05 PM ~ Bebout: Bonding level at Sweetwater college, fith penny 3:07:58 ~ 12/16/2013 4:16:17 PM ~ Leach: Bonds at this point fo wind river hall, ....bldg authority, not outstanding bonds, 3:08:19 ~ 12/16/2013 4:16:38 PM ~ Dockstader: what remains on the bonds. 3:08:32 ~ 12/16/2013 4:16:51 PM ~ Leach: vlauation of lots has changed, can't tell you 3:08:49 ~ 12/16/2013 4:17:08 PM ~ Moniz: how is constructon resolution fund funded? 3:09:01 ~ 12/16/2013 4:17:20 PM ~ Leech: 1986 construction of expansion on main campus, lawsuits produced reimbursement to the college, money held in trust and used for construction. 3:09:31 ~ 12/16/2013 4:17:50 PM ~ Bebout: impressive training, center. Leech: Number 8 is an instructon and digital bulding - 15000 sq ft new construction, tech advancement hs taken over space, with growth of enrollment. # 8 regains classroom space, about 5 . 3:10:59 ~ 12/16/2013 4:19:18 PM ~ Bebout: Casper College 3:11:08 ~ 12/16/2013 4:19:27 PM ~ Walt Nolte from Casper College - Withdrew project and will submit substitute project of purchase and building property for sale west of city. 160 acres with 3 barns with areans, staff quarters/apts, a greenhouse, a helicopter hanger, wate rights, wind generator, all fencing, house which will convert to conf or retreat center ..or substitue capital.. . Rodeo and livestock juding program and other opportunities, global instrument syustems, alternative eneergy, botony, expanded programs in agriculture. For4 sale for 3.1 million. Cost us 1.5 million to eract an areana. Asking for authorization to purchase an build with a loan from our foundation. 3:13:57 ~ 12/16/2013 4:22:15 PM ~ Bebout: not in request, has come up since then. procedurally? 3:14:10 ~ 12/16/2013 4:22:29 PM ~ richards - Gov should respond with letter. 3:14:43 ~ 12/16/2013 4:23:01 PM ~ Jones: email was sent Friday so Gov has not had time to react. 3:14:58 ~ 12/16/2013 4:23:17 PM ~ bebout: letter for gov to aye or nay. 3:15:09 ~ 12/16/2013 4:23:28 PM ~ Harshman: six mile road west of Casper? 3:15:18 ~ 12/16/2013 4:23:37 PM ~ Armstrong: correct 3:15:26 ~ 12/16/2013 4:23:45 PM ~ Harshman: reduction in dollars requested, 3:15:40 ~ 12/16/2013 4:23:59 PM ~ Bebout: Jackson center, CWC 3:15:49 ~ 12/16/2013 4:24:08 PM ~ mcFarland: Centralized instructional space for the Jackson center. Reason for being last, received zero points is because we only have leased space in Jackson, not considered a site or branch camputs. Jackson enrollment is growing, not reflected in the ranking, in need of a science lab to serve fully accredited nursing program in Jackson, utilizing science lab at jackson hole high school,, access at 5 pm. chemicals and procedures use limited by high school. Faculty carries lab supplies to and from lab. culinary arts and hospitality management programs. Amy Medara, runs program, has no kitchen. $ seasons gave us free kitchen for 5 years. moved to worth hotel and leased kitchen, moved to elks lodge which is unacceptable for training executive chefs, can place executive chefs. Need a full teacing kitchen. High school, hospital,, elks lodge, 11.8 M project, 5.9 M from the state. All projects possibly won't be funded, most helpful to have level 2 funding this year..scarcity and high cost of land in Jackson, would come back with better figures for building that wouldsuit Jackson. 3:21:48 ~ 12/16/2013 4:30:07 PM ~ Bebout: Lancer Hall, 100% talked about it. 3:22:01 ~ 12/16/2013 4:30:20 PM ~ Bebout: last one is technical center, 100%, no funds from the state.. Jones: page 62 - LCCC Albany county campus, request to transfer ownership.. requires your approval, ultimately impacts major maitenance major funding. 3:23:13 ~ 12/16/2013 4:31:32 PM ~ Schaffer: LCCC. In 2005 LCCc foundation worked with Board to fund an build albany county campus,. Did not seek commission approval or legislative approval so have not included any mainteneance funding. Asked WCCC to transfer ownership, seek approval of that, legislative authorization needed. Sq footage would be included in major maintenance funding. 3:24:28 ~ 12/16/2013 4:32:47 PM ~ Nichoas: sq footage 3:24:37 ~ 12/16/2013 4:32:55 PM ~ Schaffer - will get that footage for you. 3:24:48 ~ 12/16/2013 4:33:07 PM ~ Bebout: Retroactive? 3:24:54 ~ 12/16/2013 4:33:13 PM ~ Schaffer: correct, 3:25:00 ~ 12/16/2013 4:33:19 PM ~ bebout: Why did you not come back after it happened 3:25:09 ~ 12/16/2013 4:33:28 PM ~ Schaffer: do not know, not here. 3:25:17 ~ 12/16/2013 4:33:36 PM ~ Bebout: gov Rec? 3:25:28 ~ 12/16/2013 4:33:47 PM ~ Jones: gov approval. 3:25:34 ~ 12/16/2013 4:33:53 PM ~ bebout: Thanks to audience, Callback. 3:26:10 ~ 12/16/2013 4:34:29 PM ~ Richards: one more agency. 3:26:21 ~ 12/16/2013 4:34:39 PM ~ 3:26:26 ~ 12/16/2013 4:34:45 PM ~ Pause 3:26:26 ~ 12/16/2013 4:39:39 PM ~ Resume 3:26:36 ~ 12/16/2013 4:39:48 PM ~ 220-EQC-Environmental Quality Council Jim Ruby, Executive Director. Requesting approximately $100,000 less this next biennium, less docket work due to less coalbed methane natural gas development.2011, uranium mine on appeal for sage grouse habitat permit. Lake Energy permit, which was approved. 3:29:40 ~ 12/16/2013 4:42:52 PM ~ Ruby: Page 3, exception requests on page 6, data service, e-filing system, 1 original filing, 8 digital copies for single case, $10,000; governor approval. Replacement of 3 laptops over next biennium. Video and audio conferencing; web based, maintenance agreement and updates for $3,000. 3:34:26 ~ 12/16/2013 4:47:38 PM ~ Stubson: Web based software and maintenance - more than skype? 3:35:14 ~ 12/16/2013 4:48:26 PM ~ Ruby: More sophisticated system, mega meeting, more people to conference on, volume control and override controls frm central base. 3:36:43 ~ 12/16/2013 4:49:55 PM ~ Ruby: Reduce rules by 1/3, working diligently to accomplish. 3:37:29 ~ 12/16/2013 4:50:42 PM ~ Meier: Rules, how do you reduce without increasing vagueness? 3:37:50 ~ 12/16/2013 4:51:02 PM ~ Ruby: Some duplication within rules, outdated. 3:38:37 ~ 12/16/2013 4:51:49 PM ~ Wallis: denial by governor of printer replacement of $1,000, 3:39:49 ~ 12/16/2013 4:53:01 PM ~ Ruby: Wrong quote. 3:40:11 ~ 12/16/2013 4:53:23 PM ~ 3:42:12 ~ 12/16/2013 4:55:24 PM ~ Stop Recording