File name: JACBudgetHearings2014_20131217_074224.dcr Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\happropriations\My Documents\JAC Audio 2014 0 ~ 12/17/2013 7:55:27 AM ~ Start Recording 1 ~ 12/17/2013 7:55:29 AM ~ Tuesday, December 17, 2013 029-WWDC- Wyoming Water Development Office 1:17 ~ 12/17/2013 7:56:45 AM ~ 1:19 ~ 12/17/2013 7:56:47 AM ~ Pause 1:19 ~ 12/17/2013 8:00:53 AM ~ Resume 1:19 ~ 12/17/2013 8:00:53 AM ~ 1:21 ~ 12/17/2013 8:00:55 AM ~ Chairman Harshman: Welcome.. Instructions. Will get a bill on projects. during the session. 2:08 ~ 12/17/2013 8:01:42 AM ~ laBonde: Intro of staff Andrea Odell and Bryan Clerkin..Quick review of std, 4 exception requests. Gillette. 25 M request. Handout: One page summary - STd Budget pg 14 has detailed listing. Snow pack 120% , ..have seeded in two locations and measured precipitation. Snow pack above avg. 5:31 ~ 12/17/2013 8:05:05 AM ~ laBonde: Handout summary comparison.. Request inc. driven by costs of other agencies . Central data services, inc. 66000 dollar has exc request number 4 from ETS in it. Series 500 is building rental dropping, No drop in lease rate. Leasing handled through A and I. It is an actual number. Contractural services..1 M dec of 31,000. Dec reflected in exc request number 3. Pg 17. 9:48 ~ 12/17/2013 8:09:22 AM ~ Harshman: pg 12 9:55 ~ 12/17/2013 8:09:29 AM ~ LaBonde: Page 9 bottom details professional services, Pg 10: Instream flow request from GandF -must do hydrologic studies, dolalrs used for outside contracting, update reiver basin plans. some in house, some contracted with WYo Geological Survey or USGS..all come out of series 900. Water Resources data syustem is where the 31,000 dec is coming from. UW provides services, designated as water house clearing,....ie watter library, fundign to support that. 800,000 req slightly less than last biennium. 12:31 ~ 12/17/2013 8:12:04 AM ~ Bebout: Instream flow of 250,000. Statute? What drives the number of applications? 12:56 ~ 12/17/2013 8:12:29 AM ~ LaBonde: Request from state, some input, biological assessment of stream segments then we do hydrologic assessment. 13:34 ~ 12/17/2013 8:13:08 AM ~ Bebout: Instream flow...will ask G and F. if brought to WWDC, obligated to provide the service? 14:03 ~ 12/17/2013 8:13:37 AM ~ LaBonde: correct 14:07 ~ 12/17/2013 8:13:41 AM ~ Bebout: provide data.... 14:21 ~ 12/17/2013 8:13:55 AM ~ LaBonde: a portion of 250,000 goes to river basin plan 14:35 ~ 12/17/2013 8:14:09 AM ~ Bebout: give us the split FU 14:42 ~ 12/17/2013 8:14:16 AM ~ Labonde: dec of 100,000. total std = 8 M includes exception request 2, 3 and 4. 15:21 ~ 12/17/2013 8:14:55 AM ~ harshman: pg 11 15:30 ~ 12/17/2013 8:15:03 AM ~ Nicholas: water resources data system: how do they come up with figure. Is ther a breakdown of services? 15:48 ~ 12/17/2013 8:15:22 AM ~ labonde: request comes from staff, maintenance of servers, housing of faciilty, UW provides a budget to us. 16:31 ~ 12/17/2013 8:16:05 AM ~ Nicholas: 4 employees ? budget form? 16:41 ~ 12/17/2013 8:16:15 AM ~ LaBonde: 5 employees, yes 16:50 ~ 12/17/2013 8:16:24 AM ~ Harshman; pg 11, 16:57 ~ 12/17/2013 8:16:31 AM ~ LaBonde: pg 11 = exception 3 = priority 2. priority 1 is Gillette Madison project. Exc for replacement of equipment, 4 to 10 years old, we replae all equipment at the same time. vetted with ETS for 85,000. 18:16 ~ 12/17/2013 8:17:50 AM ~ Nicholas: Replacing all computers and laptops? Reason for only replacing partially, other than ETs? 18:40 ~ 12/17/2013 8:18:14 AM ~ LaBonde: yes replace all. ETS suidelines are for a 4 year replacement. Our equipment is all 6 to 10 years old. Larger agency was phased approach. We replace all. 19:27 ~ 12/17/2013 8:19:01 AM ~ Nicholas: All agencies are requesting replacement based on guidlines, not on need. ETS recommendation does not justify replacing, should be on need basis, If we cut this in half, come back on supplemental if break down? 20:17 ~ 12/17/2013 8:19:51 AM ~ LaBonde: That can be an approach. 20:27 ~ 12/17/2013 8:20:01 AM ~ Moniz: Going electronic --your dept produces reams of paper, Ipads for boards? 20:55 ~ 12/17/2013 8:20:29 AM ~ LaBonde: have not discussed with commission. discussed internally, email and personal equipment for the commission. meet 6x a year, can consier in future. 21:45 ~ 12/17/2013 8:21:19 AM ~ Moniz: send packets early on email, so have documentation already electronically, suggest reduction in paper. 22:07 ~ 12/17/2013 8:21:41 AM ~ LaBonde: Exc request 3 is water deve data system, decrease. 22:34 ~ 12/17/2013 8:22:07 AM ~ Harshman: #4 22:41 ~ 12/17/2013 8:22:15 AM ~ Labonde: #3 - link on water development website which will go to report. 22:57 ~ 12/17/2013 8:22:31 AM ~ Bebout: Relationship with Colelge of engineering in place for many years and consisten allocation number? 23:14 ~ 12/17/2013 8:22:48 AM ~ laBonde: Correct 23:19 ~ 12/17/2013 8:22:53 AM ~ Harshman: #4 moving cloud storage has been explained. 23:35 ~ 12/17/2013 8:23:09 AM ~ LaBonde: pg 17 of budget book - description Gillette Madison Project, bottom of page is summary. pipes, wells, piping, disinfection, storag. total cost = 17 M . funding source: originally city of Gillette requested assistance, project beyond scope of WWDC so appropriated money. AML funding provided for grant side, loans through permanent mineral trust fund, last year and this years loan request not from Gillette because they have used special revenue money from county, grant funds..loan dollars. 67% grant/ 33% local share. which is how we fund other....Gillette will use it to repay the loans. Existing loans were prior to tax. 26:18 ~ 12/17/2013 8:25:52 AM ~ Wallis: In 2010 appropriated 16 M out of water account 3. Comittment of legislature to refill account> happened? 26:44 ~ 12/17/2013 8:26:18 AM ~ LaBonde? correct 26:49 ~ 12/17/2013 8:26:23 AM ~ Wallis: if we were to fulfill committment, would it go back to water 3 account? 27:08 ~ 12/17/2013 8:26:42 AM ~ LaBonde: Taht would be my recommendation to go back to the fund of origination. 27:21 ~ 12/17/2013 8:26:55 AM ~ harshman: Water 3 relatively new. 27:29 ~ 12/17/2013 8:27:03 AM ~ labonde: 10 years ago,,transferred. 27:39 ~ 12/17/2013 8:27:13 AM ~ Harshman: have made GF 27:47 ~ 12/17/2013 8:27:21 AM ~ Odell: water 3 82 M, diversion in 2009, transfer 54 M. 28:06 ~ 12/17/2013 8:27:39 AM ~ Harshman: diverson? 28:11 ~ 12/17/2013 8:27:45 AM ~ Odell: Gov came in and took 22 Millin from water acct 3. 28:25 ~ 12/17/2013 8:27:59 AM ~ Wallis: Overview of water account 3 and what might be used for? 28:49 ~ 12/17/2013 8:28:23 AM ~ LaBonde: Created under Gov Freudenthal admin. Intent was special focus for dams and resevoirs, dedicated funding. Definition of dams and resevoirs, new resevoirs of 2000 ft or larger or expansion of existing one 100 sq acre feet or larger. ....12 projects currently working on. most are in stage 2, design and permitting stage. will provide to commission an estimate sheet of cost of construction to. Right now = 330 M. Projects poised to go are about 80 M in value. To build all, = excess of 300M 30:51 ~ 12/17/2013 8:30:25 AM ~ Bebout: pls provide explanation of water development 3.? 31:24 ~ 12/17/2013 8:30:58 AM ~ LaBonde: will restate in statemnet, can give balances now. 31:41 ~ 12/17/2013 8:31:14 AM ~ bebout: end of this and next biennium 31:49 ~ 12/17/2013 8:31:23 AM ~ laBonde: Projected through end of 15 biennium with no projects. ! = 70 M 2 = 18 M 3 = 131 M. 32:25 ~ 12/17/2013 8:31:59 AM ~ Bebout: Area to look at funding is water development acct 2 - the maintenance component, irrigation....cost beneficial. 32:51 ~ 12/17/2013 8:32:24 AM ~ LaBonde: Projected bal for 2 = 18 M. slate of projects = 9.2 M. About where we want to be 9 M in 2014 session and 9 M in 15 session. Could receive more projects in upcoming cycle which would produce a deficiet. 33:46 ~ 12/17/2013 8:33:20 AM ~ Bebout: Requests? 9 M? 33:54 ~ 12/17/2013 8:33:27 AM ~ LaBonde: recommendation is to fund all requests we received this fall. 34:06 ~ 12/17/2013 8:33:40 AM ~ Harhsman: yearly rebuild of funds? 34:17 ~ 12/17/2013 8:33:50 AM ~ Labonde: Anticipated rev, severe, tax and loan repayment 1 = 27 M per year. 70 M balance included 2 years of anti rev. 2 = 6.1 M per year 3 = 3 M per year. 35:49 ~ 12/17/2013 8:35:23 AM ~ Wallis: Diversions..2009 what amount? 36:02 ~ 12/17/2013 8:35:36 AM ~ Labonde: 22 M 36:16 ~ 12/17/2013 8:35:50 AM ~ Wallis: Was that repaid? 36:24 ~ 12/17/2013 8:35:57 AM ~ LaBonde: No 36:29 ~ 12/17/2013 8:36:02 AM ~ meier: project Fontenelle..tens of millions of dollars, does not necesarily meet definitions..explain? 37:04 ~ 12/17/2013 8:36:37 AM ~ LaBonde: Pipeline from Fontennele resevoir south ...came from private individuals, felt there were state benefits, wyo allocation use under ..compact agreement. One individual is pumping..raising alfalfa,. Bebnefits = better water quality, pressurized water,. WWDC will not conduct std feasiblity study, will do an in house review, a preliminary feasibility study. Is fasibility of project worthwhile for state to pursue? 39:18 ~ 12/17/2013 8:38:51 AM ~ Meier: Colorado Compact...We are not utilizing to our benfit, Other states could ask for it in the future.. appropriate area for in house review. 40:37 ~ 12/17/2013 8:40:10 AM ~ Dockstader: explanation of how private individual request, what industry what municipalities? 40:59 ~ 12/17/2013 8:40:33 AM ~ LaBonde: Green River and Rock Springs, have existing water rights, pump water,. Would they benefit from etter water quality. Ag land are private land. Focused on feasibility but would need to know if qualifited entity would receive grant money to move forward. Could form an irrigation entity which would be qualified. In checkerboard area along UP railroad. 42:26 ~ 12/17/2013 8:42:00 AM ~ Bebout: Fontenelle, agreement with Burea of reclamation, buy wter every year. where money and acre feet amount? 42:50 ~ 12/17/2013 8:42:24 AM ~ LaBonde: 120,000 acre feet, Wyoming can contract with other entitites ..use it for insurance if there is not adequate water under flow right. 43:34 ~ 12/17/2013 8:43:08 AM ~ Bebout: cost, and account? 43:40 ~ 12/17/2013 8:43:14 AM ~ labonde: Buffalo, Glendo, Pathfinder, same arrangement of debt service accounts, outside of acct 1, 2, 3 appropriations in each of those account. Payments for selling of water offset OandM cost. For Fontenelle resevioir.. 44:39 ~ 12/17/2013 8:44:13 AM ~ Bebout: provide info and other dams also. 44:51 ~ 12/17/2013 8:44:25 AM ~ labonde: debt service spreadsheet. In 2010 paid 575,000 for that space. 45:08 ~ 12/17/2013 8:44:42 AM ~ Bebout; Revenues received? 45:15 ~ 12/17/2013 8:44:49 AM ~ LaBonde; 3 largest payments = approx 500,000. 45:28 ~ 12/17/2013 8:45:01 AM ~ Bebout; Colorado River, more pressure, 500,000M acre feet in green river- wy right. Provide committment info of water svs provided to reservation. 46:39 ~ 12/17/2013 8:46:13 AM ~ Wallis: Anticipated amoun? 46:55 ~ 12/17/2013 8:46:28 AM ~ LaBonde: do not have a good number, will be in millions of dollars.. large pipeline, crossing federal land so EIS, significatn ater project. 47:32 ~ 12/17/2013 8:47:06 AM ~ harshman: Dream of water 3 was to buld some large dams, so difficult, maybe reassess.. 48:05 ~ 12/17/2013 8:47:39 AM ~ Perkins: Water 3 - considered changing.. modifying ..looking at underground water devlopment? 48:58 ~ 12/17/2013 8:48:32 AM ~ Labonde: have not looked at subsurface storage projects. Have funded aquifier recharge which is similar. Depends on geologiic conditions and need, have focused on surface resevoirs. Have focused on smaller facilities because they are easier to permit. 49:50 ~ 12/17/2013 8:49:24 AM ~ Meier: Clarification of wte statutues in we go into underground stoarge? 50:12 ~ 12/17/2013 8:49:46 AM ~ Labonde: prior to statutory issues, other states have had issues of leakage with those types of storage. Arizona: one year can withdraw 75%, if wait 2 years, there is diminishing return on aquifier. Deep storage like natural gas might be different...shallower storage. water moves out of storage. Can be funded. 51:36 ~ 12/17/2013 8:51:10 AM ~ Meier: California, acquifer recharge system, coop between ag, environmental, municipalities, have holistic approach to water mgt. More work and understanding. 52:44 ~ 12/17/2013 8:52:18 AM ~ Harshman: pg 17 or 18 descriptions. 5 new wells, additional 5 wells. Is that part of cost or later. 53:17 ~ 12/17/2013 8:52:51 AM ~ laBonde: anticipates 5 new wells. Well field being developed has potential for 5 wells beyond that. As Gillette grows wil build wells. Total of 10 in this new field. 53:50 ~ 12/17/2013 8:53:23 AM ~ Stubson: plans for pipeline includes future exp? 54:02 ~ 12/17/2013 8:53:36 AM ~ LaBonde: correct, planning for 10 wells. 54:12 ~ 12/17/2013 8:53:46 AM ~ Bebout; how many drilled? 54:19 ~ 12/17/2013 8:53:53 AM ~ Labonde: 2 wells 54:23 ~ 12/17/2013 8:53:57 AM ~ Bebout: contract oversight? did we bid? 54:31 ~ 12/17/2013 8:54:05 AM ~ LaBonde; corredc, have not been bid yet 54:46 ~ 12/17/2013 8:54:20 AM ~ Bebout: provide costs for previous two wells. 55:05 ~ 12/17/2013 8:54:39 AM ~ LaBonde: Target bid date of Nov this year but not bid yet. 55:19 ~ 12/17/2013 8:54:53 AM ~ LaBonde: 17 and 18 is existing funding. Pg 19 request for thsi year, grant funding 67% grant, matched with 12 M from special purpose tax of Gillette..last and final request for thsi projects. total 217 M. Handout - letter from Gillette. pg 2 of letter is our financial analysis of where that project is at. Wyoming water development pipleine project . Shows 179 M funding appropriated. Active acct in next 3 figures. moved 67 M into Gillete accts. exps of 51 M, cash balance in acct. 57:35 ~ 12/17/2013 8:57:09 AM ~ Stubson: Not moved into account until needed. Where held? 57:51 ~ 12/17/2013 8:57:25 AM ~ LaBonde: held in account of origin - AMl funds held by Federal govt. , set up cash account for cash flow .. 58:25 ~ 12/17/2013 8:57:58 AM ~ LaBonde: work currently under contract =63 M. planned contract awards of 2014 = 87 M. Tentatively, piping in Jan = 50 M. remaining for FY 15 = 56 M. Before Gillette can move forward and accept bids must have the money available, will need the full 217 M funding pkg as move forward. 59:53 ~ 12/17/2013 8:59:27 AM ~ harshman: Gov rq of 12.4 M AML. release time? 1:00:06 ~ 12/17/2013 8:59:40 AM ~ LaBonde: have not spoken to gov about timing, showed cash flow analysis, why they need last dollars now, 1:00:29 ~ 12/17/2013 9:00:02 AM ~ harshman: AML funds avaialble 1:00:36 ~ 12/17/2013 9:00:09 AM ~ Richards: Application for Dec of 2014 with payment 6 to 12 months after. 1:00:52 ~ 12/17/2013 9:00:26 AM ~ harshman: 1 year application..six months payment. hopefully spring, summer fall of 15 to receive 1:01:15 ~ 12/17/2013 9:00:49 AM ~ laBonde; last page is bid pkg schedule --target date---total 54M. A number of bid dates have slipped so I believe the AML scheduel will work. 1:01:57 ~ 12/17/2013 9:01:31 AM ~ Harshman: 2014, application not ready until 14, make application on bid amount or total amount? 1:02:20 ~ 12/17/2013 9:01:54 AM ~ RIchards: answer 1:02:41 ~ 12/17/2013 9:02:15 AM ~ Harshman: .. 1:02:55 ~ 12/17/2013 9:02:28 AM ~ LaBonde: Timing - bid dates slipping. Gillettes perspective, just want to know funding committment has been made. then get into cash flow issue. Last 3 projects take 60 days to award projects then 60 days for material. think timing will owrko ut well. 1:03:42 ~ 12/17/2013 9:03:16 AM ~ Perkins: contingency funds - where does money revert to if not used? 1:04:00 ~ 12/17/2013 9:03:34 AM ~ LaBonde: Revert based on the funding percentage of 67% state/33% city funding. 1:04:24 ~ 12/17/2013 9:03:57 AM ~ Wallis: 1:05:01 ~ 12/17/2013 9:04:35 AM ~ LaBonde: acct 1 = 17 M acct 2 = 9 M acct 3 = 2 M in projects coming forward. 1:06:00 ~ 12/17/2013 9:05:33 AM ~ harshman: closing, thanks. do not anticipate callbacks 1:06:27 ~ 12/17/2013 9:06:01 AM ~ 1:06:30 ~ 12/17/2013 9:06:03 AM ~ Pause 1:06:30 ~ 12/17/2013 9:18:54 AM ~ Resume 1:06:30 ~ 12/17/2013 9:18:54 AM ~ harshman is Chairman: introduction, wlecome 1:06:32 ~ 12/17/2013 9:18:57 AM ~ Livestock Board: 1:06:43 ~ 12/17/2013 9:19:08 AM ~ Correll: introduction ofstaff, Di=overview.. Brands, brand inspection, permits, manage two funds. General every day law enforcment, animal health generated by GF, contineu to ahve some federal grant money, Brand recording unit is 100 5 brand funded. Brand inspecting unit is 35% Gf and 65% branding unit. computerization project. 1:08:09 ~ 12/17/2013 9:20:33 AM ~ Correll: pg 3 of budget document: 1:08:19 ~ 12/17/2013 9:20:44 AM ~ bebout: 3 of brand inspectons, # of livestock declingin? 1:08:35 ~ 12/17/2013 9:20:59 AM ~ Correll: defer 1:08:52 ~ 12/17/2013 9:21:16 AM ~ Romsa: have seen a decline, saw a bump up last year because more animals went through inspection due to dry condidtions. numbers anticipated to go down this year and hve. 1:09:25 ~ 12/17/2013 9:21:50 AM ~ Bebout: total number of animals, trend? 1:09:39 ~ 12/17/2013 9:22:04 AM ~ Romsa: 10 year trend, livestock numbers are down 1/2 and more than 1/3 for sheept. Nationwide trend. 2013 national cattle inventory is lowest since the 1950"s. Grazing conditions, 7 years of drought, fires, big sell-off, down for the next couple of years, 1:10:37 ~ 12/17/2013 9:23:01 AM ~ Bebout: quantify impact of BLM on grazing? 1:10:49 ~ 12/17/2013 9:23:13 AM ~ Romsa: To quantify, need fitures from grazing permits. We used to inspect 800,000 sheep per year, big impact on them, down to 300,000. Cattle inspections at 2.5 M now down to 1.5 M per year. 1:11:29 ~ 12/17/2013 9:23:54 AM ~ Bebout: Impact of Feds, when brand inspections go down so does revenue stream. 1:11:45 ~ 12/17/2013 9:24:09 AM ~ Wallis: Producer discussion, impact of elk. quantify impact? one producer had 30 sections wiped out by hail, regrew and elk took over range. 1:12:51 ~ 12/17/2013 9:25:15 AM ~ correll: Hard to quantify but hose situations do impact. Limited amount of forage --does impact amount of livestock that can be out there. 1:13:44 ~ 12/17/2013 9:26:08 AM ~ Wallis: Horses, disappearnace of consent decree, agency involvement? 1:14:03 ~ 12/17/2013 9:26:27 AM ~ Correll: subcabinet of natural resources and energy team, minor discussion of wild horse population, stray naimals on private land, discussions with gov policy analyst. 1:14:46 ~ 12/17/2013 9:27:10 AM ~ Correll: Handout - projections of brand fun history balance, revenue stream. l? 1:15:31 ~ 12/17/2013 9:27:56 AM ~ harshman: wait until salary piece. 1:15:38 ~ 12/17/2013 9:28:02 AM ~ Correll: pg 3 of budget.. Gov rec- GF = 8.2 M 45.5% of total budget. 2.36% from federal funds, brand fund money = 9.4 M , 52% of budget. Brand unit is lions share of budget revenue. pg 7, performance measureres. ...1 = computerizaton and technology advancement. contract with software vendor. signed sept 16, in development and documentation phases. web based system. for landing page. completion June of 2014. Core functionality. Creating back log list of additional customer service and functionality items. 1:19:57 ~ 12/17/2013 9:32:21 AM ~ Correll: pg 8 - dept prioritites. 7 exception requests, 1 M Gf = 388,000. Priority 3, 5, 7 all tied to computerizaton and technology. 1:21:04 ~ 12/17/2013 9:33:28 AM ~ Bebout: how much in last 3,4,5 years with livestock board. Total amount? 1:21:17 ~ 12/17/2013 9:33:42 AM ~ Correll: From time rec money in July 1, 2011, came from earmark fund of 363,000. received additional appropriation in exc request on July 1, 2012 Gf = 156,000. earmakr of 402,000,.... Total for both =920,400. 1:23:14 ~ 12/17/2013 9:35:39 AM ~ Correll: ? 1:23:38 ~ 12/17/2013 9:36:03 AM ~ Harshman: jpage by page 1:23:43 ~ 12/17/2013 9:36:07 AM ~ Cornell: pg 12 - adminsitration unit. gov rec of approval of std budget. Except request o#3 1:24:08 ~ 12/17/2013 9:36:32 AM ~ Harshman: six employees, up .due to reclassification? 1:24:28 ~ 12/17/2013 9:36:52 AM ~ Cornell: pg 10 adminsitration salary, reclassification for asst vet for field operations from a field vet to an administrative..at-wil employee. 1:25:03 ~ 12/17/2013 9:37:27 AM ~ Cornell: - Exception priority # - equipment replacement - ETS recommendation of total replacement - equip out of warranty. funding source percentage of 35/65 split for brand unit computers. Gov rec approval of hardware. 1:26:26 ~ 12/17/2013 9:38:50 AM ~ Bebout: computer memo..Have we been negligent in past? 1:26:54 ~ 12/17/2013 9:39:19 AM ~ Jones: computers - depts had different replacement schedules. 1:27:11 ~ 12/17/2013 9:39:35 AM ~ bebout:... 1:27:16 ~ 12/17/2013 9:39:41 AM ~ Harshman: Nfumber of computers, 15 desktop, 36 laptops, 27 APG. computer for who? 1:27:53 ~ 12/17/2013 9:40:17 AM ~ Correll: For entire agency, admin, law enforcemetn, animal health unit, brand unit. APG are rugged laptops. We have not kep up with replacing as often, paying more attention to replacement schedules. 1:28:56 ~ 12/17/2013 9:41:20 AM ~ moniz: 35/65 split . brand inspectons down. Will that create problems? Do we need to revisit the split? 1:29:32 ~ 12/17/2013 9:41:56 AM ~ correll; Right now solvent with that split. 35% based on additional duties of brand inspectors, would have to address in alrge capacity of what they do, 1:30:21 ~ 12/17/2013 9:42:45 AM ~ Correll: priority #3 - state vet vehicle replacement. Animal health unit used fed dollars to purchase vehicles. High mileage vehicles. Purchase a vehicle through state, run through motor vehicle division, permanently assigned vehicle. Gov rec approval. 1:31:28 ~ 12/17/2013 9:43:53 AM ~ meier: Brand inspectors, vets use cell phoens..put in cellular capabilities in vehicles? 1:31:52 ~ 12/17/2013 9:44:16 AM ~ Correll: replacement vehicles have bluetooth technology, brand inspectors have own vehicles, own equipment, we pay for some of the cell phones. 1:32:24 ~ 12/17/2013 9:44:48 AM ~ correll: pg 14 - priority number 5 = new computer equipmetn, new hardware for project. coordinated with ETS. Variabliilty in system. software is building apps that can be used on smart phones. 1:34:14 ~ 12/17/2013 9:46:39 AM ~ Perkins: Mesa ..Archer..? 1:34:37 ~ 12/17/2013 9:47:01 AM ~ Correll: a mesa rcher is ahnd held unit from pilot project, brand inspecton info uploaded to computer, testing in two mkts. Based figures on pilot project, numbers may change based on aequipment that each will use. 1:35:56 ~ 12/17/2013 9:48:20 AM ~ perkins: AWAC, PT, FT, 91 folks. computers = 147. Why? 1:36:28 ~ 12/17/2013 9:48:52 AM ~ Correll: 117 employees with agency 94 AWAC, classified staff, If donig inspection on phone in field, will need laptop or desktop at home, duplicate of numbers. 1:37:42 ~ 12/17/2013 9:50:06 AM ~ Harshman: 1:37:53 ~ 12/17/2013 9:50:18 AM ~ Correll: priority 7 is upgrade to microsoft office. ETS recommendation. 1:38:36 ~ 12/17/2013 9:51:01 AM ~ Correll: pg 19 - vet repayment program, statutory program to help support vets returning to Wyoming..contract yearly. std = 270,000 of pass through money. 1:39:28 ~ 12/17/2013 9:51:52 AM ~ moniz: how is the program working? 1:39:45 ~ 12/17/2013 9:52:09 AM ~ Correll: Contracts for 3 years, hard to quantify if keeping them in state. ...... 1:40:14 ~ 12/17/2013 9:52:39 AM ~ bebout: how many in it? how manyu apps? 1:40:28 ~ 12/17/2013 9:52:52 AM ~ person: Can get info. Normally approve 3 to 5 applications per year 25 and 75% funding range. 1:40:58 ~ 12/17/2013 9:53:22 AM ~ Correll: IT unit - computerization project , support for IT within agencies. pulled out of each unit and combined. 1:41:24 ~ 12/17/2013 9:53:48 AM ~ Correll: pg 23 animal health unit budget.. pg 25 gov rec approval of std budget.. 1:41:51 ~ 12/17/2013 9:54:15 AM ~ Harshman: pg 23 Personnel services has 24,000 inc. defer to B-1, may be benefit dollars, asst state vet salary is out of this place, not the other one, will provide. 1:42:32 ~ 12/17/2013 9:54:56 AM ~ Correll: pg 28 - Law Enforcement unit, pg 29 exc budget requ priority 6 - replacement vehicle cost - inc in monthly fees.motor vehicle recommends vehicle replacement - fees inc because it is new vehicle--have no control over that fee inc. have absorbed those into our budget. If we continue to do so, will have to cut something else. asking for inc. due to fee inc. 1:44:39 ~ 12/17/2013 9:57:03 AM ~ Burkhart: diesal vehicles? 1:44:50 ~ 12/17/2013 9:57:14 AM ~ Cornell: no 1:44:54 ~ 12/17/2013 9:57:18 AM ~ Stubson: What ine item were you absorbing the costs? code? 1:45:08 ~ 12/17/2013 9:57:32 AM ~ Cornell: 0223 line item , on page 26. may have been travel or supplies, wherever we could come up with that funding. 1:45:48 ~ 12/17/2013 9:58:12 AM ~ Stubson: additional amount, anticipate it will show in next std budgetin ....code? 1:46:09 ~ 12/17/2013 9:58:34 AM ~ Cornell yes 1:46:14 ~ 12/17/2013 9:58:38 AM ~ perkins: if vehicle relplacement comes through, it drops the maintenance of a vehicle 20%. 29219 - cost of maintenance but that number would drop by about half - would reduce 223 code? 1:46:52 ~ 12/17/2013 9:59:16 AM ~ Cornell: opposite - when replace with new, monthly fees go up. 1:47:46 ~ 12/17/2013 10:00:10 AM ~ perkins: Motor vehicle charges you more to maintain a new vehicle than an old? 1:48:00 ~ 12/17/2013 10:00:24 AM ~ Correll: Fuel, maintenace and vehicle replacement combined cost. Building into the monthly cost a replacement amount to build up funds to replace vehicle. 1:48:43 ~ 12/17/2013 10:01:07 AM ~ perkins: double dipping for Motor vehicle? 1:48:57 ~ 12/17/2013 10:01:21 AM ~ Perkins: mmoney set aside under A and I or somewhere? 1:49:09 ~ 12/17/2013 10:01:34 AM ~ Jones: Fleet vehicle hs depreciation compnent in rate tied to replacement cost of vehicle. 7.5 M request for spending authority from A and I - thos evehicles are in fleet itself or are permenently assigend. Vet vehicle treated differently... 1:50:15 ~ 12/17/2013 10:02:39 AM ~ Stubson: Understanding of that would be helpful. 1:50:33 ~ 12/17/2013 10:02:57 AM ~ Correll: state vet vehicle purchased with federal dollars so monthly amount is less because not getting a replacment for it.. 1:51:13 ~ 12/17/2013 10:03:38 AM ~ Perkins: Vet vehicle before fed paid vehicle. Double dipping? agencies buy vehicles from other fund source. When source dries up, have auto increase from mtor vehicle pool. 1:52:41 ~ 12/17/2013 10:05:06 AM ~ Correll: 1:53:34 ~ 12/17/2013 10:05:58 AM ~ Bebout: explain changes in two units.. 1:53:42 ~ 12/17/2013 10:06:07 AM ~ Correll: net to zero ..Moved out of law enforcemtn into animal health unit. 1:54:06 ~ 12/17/2013 10:06:30 AM ~ correll: pg 32, brucellois - 0301, 218,000 pass through dollars. UW state vet lab. travel = 9600, bruc testing is stautory rules of livestock board rules under 0303 . reimburse vets for bruc. testing..herds within designated survalience 1:56:06 ~ 12/17/2013 10:08:30 AM ~ Burkhart: Lab utilities cost? 1:57:14 ~ 12/17/2013 10:09:38 AM ~ Correll: Category that has moved thru standard budget, emergency fund. If not used, reverts back to general fund. 1:58:47 ~ 12/17/2013 10:11:12 AM ~ Bebout: Cut only taken 1 year, $23,000 bruscellois. 1:59:33 ~ 12/17/2013 10:11:58 AM ~ Correll: $382,000 USDA AFES cooperative grant money, annually with federal government. 2:02:01 ~ 12/17/2013 10:14:25 AM ~ Perkins: Via Farm Bill? 2:02:13 ~ 12/17/2013 10:14:37 AM ~ Correll: Not certain, but probably not. 2:02:26 ~ 12/17/2013 10:14:50 AM ~ Wallis: Thru agriculture appropriations 2:02:43 ~ 12/17/2013 10:15:07 AM ~ Correll: page 42, stray budget, $50,000. Cases increasing and associated cost. 2012, 89 head of livestock; 2013, 143 head of livestock at end of September. 2:04:59 ~ 12/17/2013 10:17:23 AM ~ Correll: Large amount of reported lost cattle. Lots of recovery, cattle not always branded or rebranded. 2:06:38 ~ 12/17/2013 10:19:02 AM ~ Meier: Any horses? 2:06:48 ~ 12/17/2013 10:19:12 AM ~ Correll: Yes, end of September, 2013, 51 were horses. Some are abandoned...Recoup fees to take care of animals thru auction as stray. 2:10:35 ~ 12/17/2013 10:22:59 AM ~ Wallis: Account to take care in law enforcement? 2:11:07 ~ 12/17/2013 10:23:31 AM ~ Correll: No funding. Work with county on cost of care bonding. 2:13:15 ~ 12/17/2013 10:25:39 AM ~ Correll: page 44, brand inspection unit. page 46, revenues generated. FY11-12, $7.3M, projected revenues for FY13-14 $7.6M, particularly from brand renewal. 2:16:53 ~ 12/17/2013 10:29:17 AM ~ Meier: Earmarked funds? 2:17:09 ~ 12/17/2013 10:29:34 AM ~ Correll: Given spending authority via legislature. 2:19:16 ~ 12/17/2013 10:31:40 AM ~ Bebout: Revenue numbers. 2:20:09 ~ 12/17/2013 10:32:33 AM ~ Correll: Revenue projections are 10% less inspections every year. 2:20:56 ~ 12/17/2013 10:33:20 AM ~ Correll: page 47, tiered level of adequate salaries, which doesn't include brand inspectors. Handout. Goals: raise people at lower end of salary range, raise market inspector; sustainability with brand fund. Average age of inspector is 58 years old. After 2 years, full brand inspector category, increased salary. District supervisor level, with assistant district capacity, new. Part time, 60, paid only for those hours worked. 2013, turnover rate. Salary comparison with classified salaries within agency. Does not include salary adjustment for classified employees. brand projections for revenue stream; revenues up 14%. 2:33:34 ~ 12/17/2013 10:45:59 AM ~ Bebout: Report missing numbers, which have declined (cattle) with revenues going up. 2:34:30 ~ 12/17/2013 10:46:55 AM ~ Correll: not fully staffed with inspectors, even though numbers of cattle are projected as 10% down every year; inspsection numbers are not decreasing, as still have to make same number of trips; however, more horse inspections. 2:36:07 ~ 12/17/2013 10:48:32 AM ~ Romsa: 104 inspectors, 64 full time; now just 90+ inspectors. Earmarked funds have come thru renewal process. 2:38:02 ~ 12/17/2013 10:50:26 AM ~ Meier: Benefits are only for full time people? 2:38:24 ~ 12/17/2013 10:50:48 AM ~ Correll: Yes. 2:39:16 ~ 12/17/2013 10:51:41 AM ~ Correll: More on ranch manager as opposed to ranch hand due to responsibilities - brand inspectors. 2:42:19 ~ 12/17/2013 10:54:43 AM ~ Harshman, page 10, handout. governor approved 2/3 of exception request. 2:43:04 ~ 12/17/2013 10:55:28 AM ~ Correll: bigger adjustment for inspectors as for classified positions. 2:46:16 ~ 12/17/2013 10:58:40 AM ~ Wallis: Full time inspectors as AWEC get benefits 2:46:53 ~ 12/17/2013 10:59:18 AM ~ Correll: Not classified as state employees as work as needed, which averages out to 40 hours per week. 2:47:54 ~ 12/17/2013 11:00:18 AM ~ Nicholas: Time sheets? 2:48:20 ~ 12/17/2013 11:00:44 AM ~ Correll: Time sheets are available, monthly are viewed per each district as to duties. 2:49:38 ~ 12/17/2013 11:02:02 AM ~ Correll: Page 50, travel in-state. Exception request to increase spending authority. Bring mileage paid up to state rate 2:51:33 ~ 12/17/2013 11:03:57 AM ~ Correll: pass thru funds to county predator board 2:52:05 ~ 12/17/2013 11:04:29 AM ~ 039 - WNRT - Wildlife and Natural Resoruce Trust 2:52:50 ~ 12/17/2013 11:05:14 AM ~ Pause 2:52:50 ~ 12/17/2013 11:17:25 AM ~ Resume 2:52:54 ~ 12/17/2013 11:17:29 AM ~ 039 - WNRT - Wildlife and Natural Resource Trust Bob Budd, Executive Director Christine Adams, Grant Manager Tim FLoyd Zero based budget, no exception requets. $10M governor request for funding to increase reserve in trust. $10M grants given for 2013. 80 projects approved annually. 600-900 series handout. 2:56:04 ~ 12/17/2013 11:20:39 AM ~ Harshman: Trust around $100M? 2:56:19 ~ 12/17/2013 11:20:54 AM ~ Budd: Yes. unobligated funds at $8M. At end of year, $4M. Awarded 38 grants at meeting yesterday. 2:57:28 ~ 12/17/2013 11:22:03 AM ~ Stubson: 900 series handout, $970 actual, $72,000 budget 2:57:55 ~ 12/17/2013 11:22:30 AM ~ Budd: 900 series expenditures very small. Perform remediation or correction if issue. 2:58:56 ~ 12/17/2013 11:23:31 AM ~ Stubson: Ever used for remediation? 2:59:04 ~ 12/17/2013 11:23:39 AM ~ Budd: Once in 8 years, but also used in tracking work performed ($10,000) as outside contract. 3:00:25 ~ 12/17/2013 11:25:00 AM ~ Bebout: Quantify projects...sage grouse, 32 projects related to wildlife habitat/sage grouse? 3:01:29 ~ 12/17/2013 11:26:04 AM ~ Budd: Easy to track, half of projects during the last 2 years are sage grouse related. 3:02:28 ~ 12/17/2013 11:27:03 AM ~ Bebout: No general funds, only funds from trust fund. Would sage grouse projects be reduced if funds were reduced? By half? 3:03:07 ~ 12/17/2013 11:27:42 AM ~ Budd: Yes 3:03:10 ~ 12/17/2013 11:27:45 AM ~ Meier: Conservation easements with establishing migratory pathway 3:04:27 ~ 12/17/2013 11:29:03 AM ~ Budd: Various analysis into database to consolidate. Knowledge of most statewide migratory routes. 3:06:50 ~ 12/17/2013 11:31:25 AM ~ Meier: Develop a map of easements of migratory routes, prrotected by conservation. $15M go elsewhere? 3:08:17 ~ 12/17/2013 11:32:52 AM ~ Budd: Could use another $85M into trust fund past $15M. Sage grouse projects on habitat enhancement and restoration. 3:10:03 ~ 12/17/2013 11:34:38 AM ~ Budd: Minimum of $200M in trust fund 3:10:28 ~ 12/17/2013 11:35:03 AM ~ 3:10:50 ~ 12/17/2013 11:35:25 AM ~ Budd: Johnson County case, safeguards are that every easement done must be reviewed by Attorney General. County agreed to hold easement, which was an issue. 3:12:35 ~ 12/17/2013 11:37:10 AM ~ Dockstader: Comprehensive list of past and present projects, related to sage grouse 3:13:20 ~ 12/17/2013 11:37:55 AM ~ Budd: Usually bring comprehensive listing, flagged sage grouse 3:13:38 ~ 12/17/2013 11:38:13 AM ~ Bebout: Federal estate laws, change in laws; fund available to utilize for leveraging monies? 3:14:21 ~ 12/17/2013 11:38:56 AM ~ Budd: Federal estate laws have not changed enough as how easements are handled; 3 different funds which deal with easements federally. 3:16:30 ~ 12/17/2013 11:41:06 AM ~ Bebout: Impact on trust fund for sage grouse 3:16:43 ~ 12/17/2013 11:41:19 AM ~ Budd: Some reduction via Farm Bill. Other funds will be mobilized for sage grouse 3:17:20 ~ 12/17/2013 11:41:55 AM ~ Budd: Look at projects on the ground. 3:18:57 ~ 12/17/2013 11:43:32 AM ~ Bebout: Sage grouse, any better way to fund or do? 3:19:33 ~ 12/17/2013 11:44:08 AM ~ Budd: Sage grouse team met last week; metrics include having birds breeding in historic grounds, suitable and available habitat. In Wyoming, holding even on habitat. 3:21:48 ~ 12/17/2013 11:46:23 AM ~ Budd: Appreciate legislative and board partnership 3:22:38 ~ 12/17/2013 11:47:13 AM ~ Perkins: supplemental budget, how much supplied? 3:23:03 ~ 12/17/2013 11:47:38 AM ~ Budd: No supplemental last time, prior biennium, $5M trust, $3M projects. 3:23:51 ~ 12/17/2013 11:48:26 AM ~ 3:23:57 ~ 12/17/2013 11:48:32 AM ~ Stop Recording