File name: JACBudgetHearings2014_20131217_120049.dcr Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\happropriations\My Documents\JAC Audio 2014 0 ~ 12/17/2013 1:00:37 PM ~ Start Recording 3 ~ 12/17/2013 1:00:40 PM ~ Tuesday, December 17, 2013 024-SPCR - State Parks and cultural Resources. 41 ~ 12/17/2013 1:01:18 PM ~ harshman: welcoome and instructions. 53 ~ 12/17/2013 1:01:30 PM ~ Simpson: Don Bravo, Daren Westby, Sara Needles, Mary Hopkins, Michael Strom, Renae Bovee, Bryan Sandlian, Shanon Smith -guest -Directror of Humanities council. 1:57 ~ 12/17/2013 1:02:34 PM ~ Simpson: small agency, preservation and stewardship of hsitorical sites and items, govt records, wyoming quality of life, cultivating creatitivity, important part of tourism and of the economy. 2:54 ~ 12/17/2013 1:03:31 PM ~ Simpson: pg 4 - Overall picture of the agency. Pg 5 = statutory authority, Essential responsibilities. Pg 7 = summarized priority list of exception requests. 4:14 ~ 12/17/2013 1:04:51 PM ~ bebout: budget reductons last year, 100, 900, talk about those series reductions. 4:34 ~ 12/17/2013 1:05:11 PM ~ Simpson: Structure on page 9. administration and support. pg 10 = gov approval of std budget of admin svcs. Pg 11 = exception request, ETS request, move data mgt into the cloud, gov approved requ. 5:51 ~ 12/17/2013 1:06:28 PM ~ Nicholas: Personal feelings of ETS, compliance? 6:07 ~ 12/17/2013 1:06:44 PM ~ Simpson: Good relationship with ETS, have to partner more closely with them than some other agencies, pretty weel, I ask division administrators about service. 6:38 ~ 12/17/2013 1:07:15 PM ~ nicholas: Transferring It people over to ETS - then reclassifying employees so getting charged more. Have you noticed it. 7:08 ~ 12/17/2013 1:07:45 PM ~ Simpson: I have not but it may be taking place. 7:19 ~ 12/17/2013 1:07:56 PM ~ simpson: pg 14 = overall budget. cultural resources division = 17 M, 7:48 ~ 12/17/2013 1:08:25 PM ~ harshman: pg 14, series increase....why? 8:06 ~ 12/17/2013 1:08:43 PM ~ simpson: inc in 100 series due to reclassifications either agency driven or asked for by employees or baed on ...study. 8:28 ~ 12/17/2013 1:09:05 PM ~ harshman: how many in past year? 8:35 ~ 12/17/2013 1:09:12 PM ~ simpson: 37 reclassifications for the entire agency. 8:58 ~ 12/17/2013 1:09:34 PM ~ Harshman; avg amount? 9:14 ~ 12/17/2013 1:09:51 PM ~ Simpson: range - ... 9:52 ~ 12/17/2013 1:10:28 PM ~ Harshman: share that document, 10:03 ~ 12/17/2013 1:10:40 PM ~ Simpson: yes.. 10:12 ~ 12/17/2013 1:10:49 PM ~ Nicholas: 2001 - 163 Full time employees. 167 now.. only added 4 employees in 10 years? 11:00 ~ 12/17/2013 1:11:37 PM ~ Simpson: believe so, same level as 07, sacrificed positions due to attrition. pg 16 budget exc request - continue partnership with humanities council. ..mission is aligned with ours, good steward of funds, positive for state, request to continue to relationship. 12:18 ~ 12/17/2013 1:12:55 PM ~ Bebout: pg 17 - 250,000 instead of 3 M 12:37 ~ 12/17/2013 1:13:14 PM ~ Jones: In error, has an extra zero, ..gov approved extra 50,000 13:06 ~ 12/17/2013 1:13:43 PM ~ harshman: request for 250,000 gov added 50? All grants? 13:26 ~ 12/17/2013 1:14:03 PM ~ Smith distribute grants and programming funds, 14:04 ~ 12/17/2013 1:14:41 PM ~ Harshman: no salaries? 14:12 ~ 12/17/2013 1:14:49 PM ~ Smith: no - but ther are staff hours for programming. can get you %. 14:36 ~ 12/17/2013 1:15:13 PM ~ Dockstader: city participaton examples please? 15:06 ~ 12/17/2013 1:15:43 PM ~ Simpson: wyoming civility program, have another civility program.. 16:14 ~ 12/17/2013 1:16:51 PM ~ harshman: .. 16:23 ~ 12/17/2013 1:17:00 PM ~ Esquibel: elaborate on programs for promoting tourism. 16:35 ~ 12/17/2013 1:17:12 PM ~ Smith: Museum on mainstreet, partnership with Smithsonian, traveling exhibits designed for rural communities, key ingredients program just finished in Sheridan. 80,000 people. Jury stories launched in May. museum, conf. center or college. Local communities build custom porgraming around it. 17:53 ~ 12/17/2013 1:18:30 PM ~ Stubson: Continuation of funding, history ..pg 18. base budget, std of 250,000. balance of funding used where? ongoing funding of 390,000 18:50 ~ 12/17/2013 1:19:27 PM ~ Sandlian: 605,500 base budget. there was an error in that figure in the 13-14 budget so A and I took out 250,000 plus the 250,000 for 13 -14. 90,000 left in there is 600 sereis for payments for grants to the historical society. Cleaned std budget, fixed the error. 20:13 ~ 12/17/2013 1:20:50 PM ~ Stubson: Error was extra 250,000? 20:23 ~ 12/17/2013 1:21:00 PM ~ Sanderlian: correct. 20:34 ~ 12/17/2013 1:21:11 PM ~ harshman: GF? no trust fund? 20:45 ~ 12/17/2013 1:21:22 PM ~ simpson: correct, budget cuts previously, this unit had 175,000 budget cut. curtailed travel, redued services to wyoing historical society. 21:13 ~ 12/17/2013 1:21:50 PM ~ Wallis: humanitites council, What is Gov's impetus for extra 50,000? 21:34 ~ 12/17/2013 1:22:11 PM ~ simpson: I do not know. 21:53 ~ 12/17/2013 1:22:30 PM ~ Smith: primary funding comes from national endowment for humanities. Reductions of 5 , 8 % in the past, anticipating a 16% reduction. The money from the Gov would go to the grants program. 22:37 ~ 12/17/2013 1:23:14 PM ~ Simpson: State museum. unit 205, gov approved and no exc requ pg 25, state archeologist, no exc req, std budget approved. 216 arch survery, contracting std budget approv, no exc requ; pg 31 cultural trust fund administration, std approved, gov has asked for 400,000 for corpus of trust fund, which would bring it to 15 M. 400,000 would generate 20,000 interest earnings which are eregranted. 24:21 ~ 12/17/2013 1:24:58 PM ~ Meier: funds in a state agency pool. 24:29 ~ 12/17/2013 1:25:06 PM ~ Bovee: yes , invested in state agency pool. 24:45 ~ 12/17/2013 1:25:21 PM ~ meier: income from funds, do you only spend the income ..stocks invested in equities for more diversified portfolio. 25:25 ~ 12/17/2013 1:26:02 PM ~ Bovee: enabling legislation, can only grant off of corpus,. Our funds are predominately in the bond mkt. Yes, we have had fluctutatons in earnings. Conservative board, 26:09 ~ 12/17/2013 1:26:46 PM ~ Meier: diversified porfolio, take risk out, double income? 26:25 ~ 12/17/2013 1:27:02 PM ~ Bovee, not sure it is our responsibiliy, it is in hands of treasurers office. 26:40 ~ 12/17/2013 1:27:17 PM ~ Simpson: pg 33 SHPO exception requests - pg 34 for 54,000 for maint , repair, installation training program for markers.Stewardship program of citizens. 28:26 ~ 12/17/2013 1:29:03 PM ~ Bebout: SHPO, BLM, protocol. update? who direct comments to? 28:56 ~ 12/17/2013 1:29:33 PM ~ Hopkins: SHPO - wyoming miing association and petroleum association, posted documents on home page, public comment until Jan 5, comment form to myself. talk directly to me or Rene Caplan at BLM . Soliciting public input, 30:09 ~ 12/17/2013 1:30:45 PM ~ Bebout: balance, fed law dictates some things, trying to reduce rules, protocol is lengthy, trying to reduce? 30:35 ~ 12/17/2013 1:31:12 PM ~ hopkins: will not reduce size of the document at this point. 2006 protocol was shorter. protocol is used as a desk guide for staff.. 31:24 ~ 12/17/2013 1:32:01 PM ~ introduction of Mary Hawkins = one of our commissioners. OP 31:47 ~ 12/17/2013 1:32:24 PM ~ simpson: pg 35, architectural program - grant program fo access to historic preservation architects. Gov denied requ. 32:19 ~ 12/17/2013 1:32:56 PM ~ simpson: pg 38 - wyoming arts council - pg 39 exc request of 250,000 to fund general operating grant fund. 'most valualbe" to constiuents. Entire board sits for review of these grants. Gov has in to 300,000. 33:44 ~ 12/17/2013 1:34:21 PM ~ harshman: 33:49 ~ 12/17/2013 1:34:26 PM ~ bebout: procedurally - grants.. arts council meets, 34:06 ~ 12/17/2013 1:34:43 PM ~ simpson: Each program has different criteria. cyber grants, project reports. 35:13 ~ 12/17/2013 1:35:50 PM ~ Bebout: UW, arts council, unfairly brought in coucil..would this council have approved taht gerant? unfair criticism. 35:38 ~ 12/17/2013 1:36:15 PM ~ simpson: not the arts council, wasthe Wyomin cultural trust. 35:50 ~ 12/17/2013 1:36:27 PM ~ Dockstader: List of communities who have benefited from program. 36:07 ~ 12/17/2013 1:36:44 PM ~ Nicholas: one page synopsis of what the grants are, matching funds, 36:28 ~ 12/17/2013 1:37:04 PM ~ Simpson: All grant are a one to one match requriement. 36:38 ~ 12/17/2013 1:37:15 PM ~ Simpson: archive and records mgt. pg 43 exception req - to accomplish phase 3 to bring wy into digital electronic records mgt. 37:49 ~ 12/17/2013 1:38:26 PM ~ Stubson: duplication of archiving? life resource center wanted new microfiche machine, 38:30 ~ 12/17/2013 1:39:07 PM ~ Strom: state archivist. yes key benefit of program is elimination of duplication from other agencies, One softwre pkg, uniform procedures, 39:22 ~ 12/17/2013 1:39:58 PM ~ Stubson: narrative, saving long term documents of legal and historical value,. system of filtering documents? 39:45 ~ 12/17/2013 1:40:22 PM ~ Strom: Creating a system where agencies would put in documents tied into retention schedules, managed records system. 40:16 ~ 12/17/2013 1:40:53 PM ~ simpson: pg 44 , scanner replacement.. 40:52 ~ 12/17/2013 1:41:29 PM ~ Meier: age, replacement cycle. 40:59 ~ 12/17/2013 1:41:36 PM ~ Strom: 11 or 12 years, won't work with std operating systems. 41:28 ~ 12/17/2013 1:42:05 PM ~ Meier: what to expect in future budgets? will we see it every year? 42:14 ~ 12/17/2013 1:42:51 PM ~ Strom: not end of scanner request, do not expect another equip request next year.. not sure. 42:42 ~ 12/17/2013 1:43:19 PM ~ Meier: software - ongoing merry go round..expected life of it, coordinating software, scanners, computers,? 43:23 ~ 12/17/2013 1:44:00 PM ~ Strom: these scanners compatible with current 43:36 ~ 12/17/2013 1:44:13 PM ~ Simpson: pg 48 division state parks and trails, 30 M budget total 0401 = std budget approval, no exc requests. pg 52, land and water conservation authority, request for spending authority. fed grant program over 32 M provided, to build rec fac. Wyoming state Trails on page 54 . page 55 exc req - for spending authority..taxes, 45:45 ~ 12/17/2013 1:46:22 PM ~ Harhsman: another 1.1 M? 45:53 ~ 12/17/2013 1:46:30 PM ~ Simpson: correct 46:01 ~ 12/17/2013 1:46:38 PM ~ Bebout: 55 - numbers down> 46:19 ~ 12/17/2013 1:46:56 PM ~ Simpson: rectifying budget. 46:33 ~ 12/17/2013 1:47:10 PM ~ Sanderlain: pg 55, asterick column shows one year of revenues. 46:46 ~ 12/17/2013 1:47:23 PM ~ bebout: next to it, 2 years? 46:52 ~ 12/17/2013 1:47:29 PM ~ Sanderlain: correct. 47:03 ~ 12/17/2013 1:47:40 PM ~ Simpson: Uni t 450 on page 59. exception requests, 47:44 ~ 12/17/2013 1:48:21 PM ~ Bebout: impact, bieenialization 47:50 ~ 12/17/2013 1:48:27 PM ~ Simpson: budget reduction - gov restored 100,000 to eliminate a pack in pack out trash situation. 538,000 budget cut overall. cut 244,0000 in 100 sereis = seasonal employee pay = hotspot pay. 10-20 seasonal workers reduced. eliminated FT at Hot springs state park, 277,000 in 200 sereis, reduced vehicles, reduced 4 sites to limited mgt. Ex: Ft Fetterman, bldgings not open, Hawk springs, ...O and M supply budget impact. Reduced 900 series by 45000, budget to study new sites, eliminated the volunteer program budget entirely. 51:03 ~ 12/17/2013 1:51:40 PM ~ Simpson: pg 61 - increased utilites funds, 50,000 dollars for new facilities, Curt Gowdy visitor center, camp douglas officers quarters, pioner museum in Douglas, Gov approved 30,000 52:00 ~ 12/17/2013 1:52:36 PM ~ Simpson: pg 62 - req to continue working with conservation corp, 198,000. Gov approved 100,000. accomplish projects in state parks that we do not have funds for...benefits young people, helpful and cost effective program, esp. in terms of natural disasters. flood and fire situations. 53:17 ~ 12/17/2013 1:53:54 PM ~ Bebout: UW conservation corp? block grant, funding mechanism treated differently? 53:37 ~ 12/17/2013 1:54:14 PM ~ Simpson: Conservation corp funding depleted, did not receive merit corp grant. if exc rrquest is successful and program is not reinstated, the funds will revert. 54:18 ~ 12/17/2013 1:54:55 PM ~ Esquibel: Camp host program, legislatures worked with kids, bring that back? 55:04 ~ 12/17/2013 1:55:41 PM ~ Bravo: Legislatures are always welcome to come out with the crews, can give you a schedule. 55:32 ~ 12/17/2013 1:56:08 PM ~ Simpson: trails at curt gowdy, example of conservation corp work, 55:49 ~ 12/17/2013 1:56:26 PM ~ Esquibel: Tourism, how are members in your dept working with tourism to promote bypass, trails? 56:09 ~ 12/17/2013 1:56:46 PM ~ simpson: make Tourism aware of what there is to promote..partner on state master plan with them and G and I, 56:45 ~ 12/17/2013 1:57:22 PM ~ Esquibel: auditor's report of 3 M visitors. Your narrative of acreage. How many rangers? 57:21 ~ 12/17/2013 1:57:58 PM ~ Simpson: 57:26 ~ 12/17/2013 1:58:03 PM ~ Bravo: LE commissioned park rangers = 22, post certified. 57:39 ~ 12/17/2013 1:58:16 PM ~ Stubson: Cowboy up program? 58:12 ~ 12/17/2013 1:58:49 PM ~ Bravo: great program, will showcase Curt Cowdy race again to have run ..mtn bike races in Glendo state park. Cowboy tough is 3.5 day race across state. 59:31 ~ 12/17/2013 2:00:08 PM ~ Stubson: kudos to Bravo and Simpson, competitors complimentary to state parks, 59:55 ~ 12/17/2013 2:00:32 PM ~ harshman: number of contestants? 1:00:02 ~ 12/17/2013 2:00:39 PM ~ Bravo: 40 teams 86 contestnat, In a few years bring a world qualifier here. 1:00:25 ~ 12/17/2013 2:01:02 PM ~ harshman: any adjustments? 1:00:36 ~ 12/17/2013 2:01:13 PM ~ Bravo: seminole resevoir, good teams came in early in the morning, some teams coming in as late as 1 in the morning... 1:01:12 ~ 12/17/2013 2:01:49 PM ~ Simpson: improve - capitalizing on local activites..mkt more aggessively for local involvement. integrated parks into the race. had to push hand carts.. 1:02:05 ~ 12/17/2013 2:02:42 PM ~ Simpson: Capcom request 1:02:35 ~ 12/17/2013 2:03:12 PM ~ Meier: Numbers? 1:03:03 ~ 12/17/2013 2:03:40 PM ~ Westby: Nelson Engineering performed Level I study. Fire protection concern. 1:04:07 ~ 12/17/2013 2:04:44 PM ~ Meier: Nelson Engineering specs on water system. 1:05:03 ~ 12/17/2013 2:05:40 PM ~ Esquibel: Open to public, issues with vandalism? 1:05:48 ~ 12/17/2013 2:06:25 PM ~ Westby: More issues with lightning strikes. fire suppression issue. Increase in visitation 1:06:18 ~ 12/17/2013 2:06:55 PM ~ Burkhart: any more improvements? 1:06:53 ~ 12/17/2013 2:07:30 PM ~ Simpson: Investments on site, original gold mine and town with all original buildings. Ball mill operating. South Pass City 1:08:28 ~ 12/17/2013 2:09:05 PM ~ Simpson: CapCOM request for spending authority for ETS. $4.5M 1:09:10 ~ 12/17/2013 2:09:47 PM ~ Stubson: Balance in account? 1:09:25 ~ 12/17/2013 2:10:02 PM ~ Simpson: Might have balance, hoping to bring in equivalent amount in fees and federal grants. 1:10:11 ~ 12/17/2013 2:10:48 PM ~ Bebout: Day permits, camping fee revenue? 1:10:27 ~ 12/17/2013 2:11:04 PM ~ Simpson: Yes, admin costs Will provide 1:11:03 ~ 12/17/2013 2:11:40 PM ~ Meier: Page 72, more detail 1:12:44 ~ 12/17/2013 2:13:21 PM ~ Bebout: Voice in Master Plan. Making progress? 1:15:04 ~ 12/17/2013 2:15:41 PM ~ Simpson: Yes. Try to accomodate local people and future trends. 1:16:10 ~ 12/17/2013 2:16:47 PM ~ Bebout: Boysen, mostly Wyoming state resident use. 1:17:15 ~ 12/17/2013 2:17:52 PM ~ Simpson: Wyoming Territorial Prison, CAPCOM, $210,000 spending authority. 1:17:42 ~ 12/17/2013 2:18:19 PM ~ Burkhart: Issues about a water tap at prison? 1:18:01 ~ 12/17/2013 2:18:38 PM ~ Westby: Agreement with city of Laramie to change out large meter and individually meter buildings. $70,000 1:19:34 ~ 12/17/2013 2:20:11 PM ~ Simpson: Page 78, water related CapCON facilities. Facilities at water facilities, use of boat tax. 1:22:15 ~ 12/17/2013 2:22:52 PM ~ 1:23:48 ~ 12/17/2013 2:24:25 PM ~ Pause 1:23:48 ~ 12/17/2013 2:37:23 PM ~ Resume 1:23:51 ~ 12/17/2013 2:37:26 PM ~ 040 - Game and Fish Commission Scott Talbott, Director Jennifer Doering, Fiscal Analyst Jean Cole, Fiscal Division Chief Scot Kofron, Services Division Chief Sage grouse and bruscellois breakout, shared with general public in 2005. 3 additional programs of sensitive species program, invasive species 1:27:09 ~ 12/17/2013 2:40:45 PM ~ Doering: $12.2M. Invasive aquatic species. 18 new positions, 2012 session. Special revenues of watercraft licensing and aquatic species tag. 1:29:54 ~ 12/17/2013 2:43:29 PM ~ Bebout: Raising fees? 1:29:59 ~ 12/17/2013 2:43:34 PM ~ Talbott: No, 2nd year for program 1:30:08 ~ 12/17/2013 2:43:43 PM ~ Doering: Exception for 5 water quality meters and 8 shelters for inspections. Replacement of 1 laptop computer and 20 handheld meters. 1:31:01 ~ 12/17/2013 2:44:37 PM ~ Doering: Veterinary Program. Equipment exception request: over-the-snow machine replacement 1:32:18 ~ 12/17/2013 2:45:54 PM ~ Doering: purchase of skid loader, rotated around the state at 2 locations. 1 additional. 3 trucks and 3 snow machines, replacements. Also, more electronic machines, approved by CIO. 1:35:08 ~ 12/17/2013 2:48:44 PM ~ Doering: Sage Grouse, page 26. Move funds for training and work with industry into general fund from GandF Commission; approved by governor. Technical services to perform training and work with WGIS, and travel, vehicle gas with general fund monies. 1:37:01 ~ 12/17/2013 2:50:36 PM ~ Bebout: Sage grouse, use farm birds for breeding 1:37:49 ~ 12/17/2013 2:51:24 PM ~ Talbott: To date, research facility in Colorado only able to keep a handful alive, difficult due to diet. 1:38:58 ~ 12/17/2013 2:52:34 PM ~ Wallis: History of movement from commission funding to general fund. 1:39:30 ~ 12/17/2013 2:53:06 PM ~ Talbott: Special programs have been paid by Department/Commission to ensure success, now asking for additional funding. 1:40:03 ~ 12/17/2013 2:53:39 PM ~ Bebout: 8% reductions of $207,000 impact. 1:41:14 ~ 12/17/2013 2:54:49 PM ~ Doering: Grants able to award thru able working group were reduced. 1:42:21 ~ 12/17/2013 2:55:57 PM ~ Nicholas: Transfer of services 1:42:42 ~ 12/17/2013 2:56:17 PM ~ Doering: Currently, habitat protection program has 1 employee. His time used to calculate $194,000. Contract out thru RFP process. 1:43:50 ~ 12/17/2013 2:57:25 PM ~ Talbott: In work habitat area. 1:44:05 ~ 12/17/2013 2:57:40 PM ~ Doering: $221,400, replacement of IT items approved by CIO. 1:44:37 ~ 12/17/2013 2:58:13 PM ~ Doering: Wolf Management. FY13-14 budget with wolves as a listed species, but reponsible for paying damages. Now delisted, so GandF taken over management. Supplemental excpetion for damage claim to livestock producers, $170,000 last year. Significant reduction from Fish and Wilfdlife Service to assist. Farm supplies, radio and GPS collars to track wolves purchase. 1:47:18 ~ 12/17/2013 3:00:54 PM ~ Wallis: Payment to producers for losses. Dogs also? 1:47:38 ~ 12/17/2013 3:01:14 PM ~ Talbott: Compensation for livestock from trophy game animals, including dogs under wyoming statutes. No authority under predators classification. 1:49:48 ~ 12/17/2013 3:03:24 PM ~ Doering: Page 38, contractural services, $438,000, capturing and marketing wolves, and monitoring by air. 1:50:34 ~ 12/17/2013 3:04:09 PM ~ Bebout: Level of aerial telemetry? 1:50:48 ~ 12/17/2013 3:04:24 PM ~ Talbott: Degree of monitoring of wolves determined by department and commission. 1:51:09 ~ 12/17/2013 3:04:44 PM ~ Doering: additional AWEC hours, 4 people. $98,000, monitoring of wolves. 1:52:07 ~ 12/17/2013 3:05:43 PM ~ Meier: Monitoring and management by AWEC include? 1:52:22 ~ 12/17/2013 3:05:58 PM ~ Talbott: Trapping wolves for monitoring and tracking, 10 breeding pairs, 100 total population. 1:53:20 ~ 12/17/2013 3:06:55 PM ~ Doering: Increase in fuel and equipment repairs for AWECs for additional 34 months. 1:53:56 ~ 12/17/2013 3:07:32 PM ~ Burkhart: only for management of wolves in trophy area? 1:54:12 ~ 12/17/2013 3:07:48 PM ~ Talbott: Correct. 1:54:17 ~ 12/17/2013 3:07:52 PM ~ Doering: 44 days for AWEC to perform monitoring of wolves. Out of state travel for 1 permanent to attend regional wolf conference and training for management. Purchase of 2 snowmobiles, in Jackson and Lander for monitoring and tracking of wolves in winter. 2 trailers to trail snowmachines. Additional cell phones for 2 AWEC. 1:56:48 ~ 12/17/2013 3:10:23 PM ~ Burkhart: Funding, all wolf management from general fund. How about licensing? 1:57:38 ~ 12/17/2013 3:11:13 PM ~ Talbott: Licensing reverts back into Commission budget - $114,000 in 2012. 1:58:01 ~ 12/17/2013 3:11:36 PM ~ Harshman: No aerial hunting? 1:59:15 ~ 12/17/2013 3:12:51 PM ~ Talbott: does not apply to predatory program, Department of AG has monies to assist if necessary. 2:00:12 ~ 12/17/2013 3:13:48 PM ~ Meier: Use night scopes on predators? 2:00:25 ~ 12/17/2013 3:14:00 PM ~ Talbott: Yes, but not on trophy game. 52 quota from 2012, met population decrease. 2:01:40 ~ 12/17/2013 3:15:15 PM ~ Doering: WSC Program, WASP, $620,000 exception request to offset commission dollars, also reduction in Fish and Wildlife Service grant. General Fund monies. 2:04:38 ~ 12/17/2013 3:18:14 PM ~ Stubson: Specialized techniques by contractors 2:04:57 ~ 12/17/2013 3:18:33 PM ~ Doering: If Department has capacity and capability to perform, or bid out. 2:05:26 ~ 12/17/2013 3:19:01 PM ~ Bebout: Better place to spend $1.5M to keep species from being endangered? 2:06:10 ~ 12/17/2013 3:19:45 PM ~ Talbott: Swift fox, surveys performed statewide proving not to be a speciec listed as endangered. Need to be as pro active as possible. 2:07:16 ~ 12/17/2013 3:20:51 PM ~ Doering: CWCS, replacement items of trucks, house trailer, IT equipment, as approved by CIO. 2:07:52 ~ 12/17/2013 3:21:27 PM ~ Talbott: 2009 was first general funding of endangered species. 2:08:16 ~ 12/17/2013 3:21:52 PM ~ Doering: budgett pg 62, horsecreek elk fence, 100,000 to fence 118 acres that border G and F range. sign property damage claims , 30,000 for one and 20,000 claim reduced to 5000. 2:09:55 ~ 12/17/2013 3:23:30 PM ~ meier: skipped over denials..change in GF, back fill or supplemental requests, SF? 2:10:24 ~ 12/17/2013 3:24:00 PM ~ Talbot: Not discussed with commission. That is a possibliity. 2:10:46 ~ 12/17/2013 3:24:21 PM ~ Doering: final apporved capital con request, compliance with ADA ..10 locations comfort stations, 5 single unit, 5 double unit. 2:11:15 ~ 12/17/2013 3:24:50 PM ~ Bebout: denial o lab 2:11:22 ~ 12/17/2013 3:24:57 PM ~ Harshman; look atall denials. pg 58 2:11:37 ~ 12/17/2013 3:25:13 PM ~ Bebout: Report ..laramie Technology Building, same situation, what is going on with that? 2:12:13 ~ 12/17/2013 3:25:49 PM ~ Talbot: Disease lab at UW, wildlife forensics, fish pathology on thrid floor of biosciences building at UW - extremely cramped. UW wanted to do an upgrae sow e had to move lab. Move to certify labs. Forensic aspects , DNA for 13 species, all LE cases go through lab, human wildlife conflict, Co-operate with other states. Headless deer database. DNA satelite matching. search warrents..for freezer meat, fish pathology - disease certification for fish imported or raised in hatchery. Federal move to cerify all labs. No federal or state certification for wildlife labs. No way current lab would meet federal certifications. ....building unoccupied and for sale. 2:17:20 ~ 12/17/2013 3:30:56 PM ~ Moniz: Bldg with differences with UW ...insurance claim. 2:17:41 ~ 12/17/2013 3:31:17 PM ~ Talbot: vet Lab DL3 lab is for brucelouis. 2:17:56 ~ 12/17/2013 3:31:32 PM ~ bebout: lab with fire. 2:18:03 ~ 12/17/2013 3:31:38 PM ~ Moniz: that is DSL lab. location of builidng. 2:18:14 ~ 12/17/2013 3:31:50 PM ~ Talbot: Welldog building, south of GandF inthe industrial park. 2 1/2 blocks from current regional office. 2:18:45 ~ 12/17/2013 3:32:20 PM ~ Bebout: move out? 2:18:49 ~ 12/17/2013 3:32:24 PM ~ Talbot: will have to move lab out of Uw, propose to move to this building? 2:19:06 ~ 12/17/2013 3:32:41 PM ~ Harshman..Bebout...Hastet. 2:19:17 ~ 12/17/2013 3:32:52 PM ~ harshman: where wil you move, without this authorization. 2:19:29 ~ 12/17/2013 3:33:05 PM ~ Talbot: 3 to 5 year time line.. 2:19:47 ~ 12/17/2013 3:33:22 PM ~ Dockstader: lab use only? 2:19:53 ~ 12/17/2013 3:33:28 PM ~ Talbot: multifunction use. 2:19:59 ~ 12/17/2013 3:33:35 PM ~ Dockstader: 3 -4 year.. 2:20:07 ~ 12/17/2013 3:33:42 PM ~ Talbot: correct 2:20:13 ~ 12/17/2013 3:33:48 PM ~ harshman: reason for being in Laramie? 2:20:20 ~ 12/17/2013 3:33:55 PM ~ Talbot: evolution - to co-operate with UW in devloping DNA satellite technology. now personnel standpoint. 2:20:46 ~ 12/17/2013 3:34:21 PM ~ harshman: 3 of employees? 2:20:58 ~ 12/17/2013 3:34:33 PM ~ Talbot: 4 FT and a couple of at will. 2:21:05 ~ 12/17/2013 3:34:40 PM ~ Meier: sq footage for you and dept of ag necessary? 2:21:25 ~ 12/17/2013 3:35:00 PM ~ Talbot: in write up - new building had 17000 sq foot and 5-600 sq feet available to dept of ag. Current at 2900 sq feet. 2:22:15 ~ 12/17/2013 3:35:51 PM ~ Harshman; room to move leased space? 2:22:23 ~ 12/17/2013 3:35:58 PM ~ Talbot: absolutely 2:22:29 ~ 12/17/2013 3:36:04 PM ~ Mnoiz: decided who to present this budget? 2:22:37 ~ 12/17/2013 3:36:13 PM ~ Talbot - 2:23:06 ~ 12/17/2013 3:36:41 PM ~ Harshman: need..diversion repair 2:23:16 ~ 12/17/2013 3:36:52 PM ~ Talbot: diverson provides water for our story fish hatchery.. in need of repair, head gate structure is aged, 2:24:01 ~ 12/17/2013 3:37:37 PM ~ Bebout: fund of 27 M utilized to balance revnue stream. Do you have a fund to help with cap con? any other access. .. 2:24:48 ~ 12/17/2013 3:38:23 PM ~ Talbott: We have not, submitted as capital construction, have not discussed with commission. 2:25:09 ~ 12/17/2013 3:38:44 PM ~ richards: evaluated. Omnibus permanent fund for boys school or electrification fence at penitary at Rawlins. 2:25:37 ~ 12/17/2013 3:39:12 PM ~ Bebout: one time GF 2:25:57 ~ 12/17/2013 3:39:32 PM ~ harshman: Ammunition....will cause inc to budget, federal reimbursement, bonus fo Wyoming, 2:26:30 ~ 12/17/2013 3:40:05 PM ~ Talbot: pittman Robinson act, wildlife restoration act, 6 to 9 M has been recognized, has been put in savings. 2:27:07 ~ 12/17/2013 3:40:42 PM ~ harshman: last fiscal year or in addition or total amount? 2:27:18 ~ 12/17/2013 3:40:53 PM ~ Talbott: additional 3 M 2:27:28 ~ 12/17/2013 3:41:03 PM ~ Harshman, normally 6 million, additional 3 m? 2:27:44 ~ 12/17/2013 3:41:20 PM ~ Talbot: correct. 2:27:53 ~ 12/17/2013 3:41:29 PM ~ Harshman: if you had authority, might be able to use for capital construction? 2:28:09 ~ 12/17/2013 3:41:44 PM ~ Talbott; correct 2:28:17 ~ 12/17/2013 3:41:53 PM ~ Moniz: gov reason for denial of tech buildign? 2:28:38 ~ 12/17/2013 3:42:13 PM ~ Talbot: cap con requests: pipe a ditch on wick land. neighboring landowner would contribute 25% 2:29:17 ~ 12/17/2013 3:42:52 PM ~ harshman: your cost = 750,000 2:29:29 ~ 12/17/2013 3:43:04 PM ~ Talbot: pg 69 2:29:34 ~ 12/17/2013 3:43:10 PM ~ Bebout: Tangivle result, economic justification, mipact need. 2:29:48 ~ 12/17/2013 3:43:23 PM ~ Bebout: 800 acres of range, 1 M dollars. 2:30:18 ~ 12/17/2013 3:43:54 PM ~ harshman: water development? wildlife habitat, how close to you work together, liason. 2:30:50 ~ 12/17/2013 3:44:26 PM ~ Talbot: several liason, Doering is the main one. 2:31:06 ~ 12/17/2013 3:44:42 PM ~ Harshman: trust funds efficiency? 2:31:15 ~ 12/17/2013 3:44:50 PM ~ Talbott: platte valley partnership, habitat a critical area. 115,000 commission projects, money leveraged by working with conservation districts, almost 7 to 1. 2:32:24 ~ 12/17/2013 3:46:00 PM ~ Talbot: Electrical upgrades.. 385,000 for 3 phase power to treat water, more efficient operations to produce fish. 2:32:54 ~ 12/17/2013 3:46:30 PM ~ Burkhart: Distance to bring in? 2:33:07 ~ 12/17/2013 3:46:42 PM ~ Talbot: about 3 miles 2:33:21 ~ 12/17/2013 3:46:56 PM ~ burkhart: price3 ...Rock mtn power at 30,000 per miel, so may be lessthan you have hear. 2:33:51 ~ 12/17/2013 3:47:26 PM ~ Bebout: GandF has won funds and justification, hard to look at GF for these capital projects. 2:34:18 ~ 12/17/2013 3:47:54 PM ~ Miller: Generator, backup, wiring in infrastructure, additional costs. 2:34:49 ~ 12/17/2013 3:48:24 PM ~ Jones: lab question - why did Gov deny request of 4.1 M , report produced at gov request, frustration with number of labs, have multiple labs, no duplicated effort or analysis...consolidation of efforts. email indicated that potential requirements with fed reqs are 5-8 years out. 2:36:28 ~ 12/17/2013 3:50:04 PM ~ Bebout: who makes more money than you? executive 7? 2:36:57 ~ 12/17/2013 3:50:33 PM ~ Bebout: showing avgs, never mind. 2:37:05 ~ 12/17/2013 3:50:40 PM ~ Bebout: process for stream flow. 2:37:13 ~ 12/17/2013 3:50:49 PM ~ Miller: 2:38:03 ~ 12/17/2013 3:51:38 PM ~ Bebout: application process, procedures for public involvement?in stream flow designation 2:38:27 ~ 12/17/2013 3:52:02 PM ~ Miller: G and F selects stream segment, identifys blue ribbon streams = good fishing. filed on 133 stream segments about 2% of all flowing water in the state.. 98% on public land. , move to protect cut throat trout, endangered species listing reviews, yellowstone cutthroat streams. Select stream, do a detailed site analysis, file an application to water deve commission, . also work with State engineer. WDC sends to SE, they do feasibilty study.. GandF and WDC reports go to SE, then public hearings held. SE tryingto identify if sanyone will be harmed or injured. Eventually issue a permit or deny permit or modify the permit. Water mgt plan on website identify priorizaton methods, 5 year plan reviewed annually. 2:42:03 ~ 12/17/2013 3:55:38 PM ~ Bebout: no public coment until after agency determination? commission position or statutory flow time line? 2:42:23 ~ 12/17/2013 3:55:59 PM ~ Miller: timeline not in statute but process is. 2:42:36 ~ 12/17/2013 3:56:11 PM ~ Bebout: says no public process until... 2:42:47 ~ 12/17/2013 3:56:22 PM ~ Miller: not specifically, 2:43:10 ~ 12/17/2013 3:56:45 PM ~ Bebout ; travel committee,,, put people in touch with you, ful public disclosure. 2:43:33 ~ 12/17/2013 3:57:08 PM ~ Meier: Details in process left out. 1. If anyone objects to SE ruling, they have to hire an anttorney and bear cost? 2:44:04 ~ 12/17/2013 3:57:39 PM ~ Miller: I do not know. SE has hearings, controversy in LIncoln County, law passed in 1986, appllicatons filed in 1986 that have not been acted on. 2:44:47 ~ 12/17/2013 3:58:23 PM ~ meier: inform comittee - 1. after the public hearing and the 30 day time period, that is the only time the plaintiff has the opportunity to make a record, not alike a regular lawsuit, no opporutnity during district court process to develop record, have to foot bill yourself. 2:46:18 ~ 12/17/2013 3:59:53 PM ~ Bebout: filed in 1986 still out there? Application - could have c hange in title, etc. might be accelerated at SE office, people would not have a clue..full disclosure and public input. 2:47:05 ~ 12/17/2013 4:00:41 PM ~ Miller: meeting yesterday, SE talked about public input, filed in 86, went to SE in 86. 2:47:43 ~ 12/17/2013 4:01:19 PM ~ Bebout: title issues, water disputes, 2:47:54 ~ 12/17/2013 4:01:29 PM ~ Milelr: consistent with state water law, 2:48:23 ~ 12/17/2013 4:01:58 PM ~ Moniz: Cap Con projects, why looking at GF instead of commission? 2:48:38 ~ 12/17/2013 4:02:14 PM ~ Talbott: Several yers ago when state was in good financial stae, it was decision of JAC to decide to provide benefit to sportsment of state, sign renovation to fish hatcheries. Sen Schiffer and Sen Heinz brought forward. 2:49:24 ~ 12/17/2013 4:02:59 PM ~ moniz; how do yo priorite cap con projects for which fund to pay? 2:49:37 ~ 12/17/2013 4:03:12 PM ~ Talbot: Been limited by our budget recently. 2:50:02 ~ 12/17/2013 4:03:38 PM ~ Harshman: look at 600 900 sereis expenditures.. project grants and lab services to UW, related to lab discussed? 2:50:24 ~ 12/17/2013 4:04:00 PM ~ Talbott: no 2:50:30 ~ 12/17/2013 4:04:06 PM ~ Harshman: aviation services, flight time, half a M is second on list, exception request for more flight time.. where does it end? 2:51:06 ~ 12/17/2013 4:04:42 PM ~ Talbot:: flight time for classification of animal, wolf and bear monitoring. Have trimmed back, look at needs for that dta, 2:51:42 ~ 12/17/2013 4:05:18 PM ~ harshman: trout unlimited? why using non profit . 306000 2:52:06 ~ 12/17/2013 4:05:41 PM ~ Talbot: most are grants that come through agency. 2:52:16 ~ 12/17/2013 4:05:51 PM ~ harshman: grant from who to who? 2:52:23 ~ 12/17/2013 4:05:58 PM ~ Talbott: Grants from fed..pass through agency.. 2:52:37 ~ 12/17/2013 4:06:12 PM ~ Harshmann? fed funds flow through? 2:52:49 ~ 12/17/2013 4:06:25 PM ~ Talbott; may be WRNT funds as well. 2:53:00 ~ 12/17/2013 4:06:35 PM ~ Bebout: Money to uy or lease land -.. wildlife trust fund money or yours? 2:53:36 ~ 12/17/2013 4:07:11 PM ~ Bebout: show us where money is coming from. 2:54:10 ~ 12/17/2013 4:07:46 PM ~ Harshman: commission funds, GF. 31,000 for catering funds. 2:54:30 ~ 12/17/2013 4:08:06 PM ~ Talbott_ wil have to look at it, have to guess, conservation camps to provide meals for youth.. 2:55:07 ~ 12/17/2013 4:08:43 PM ~ Harshman: images 24,000 2:55:18 ~ 12/17/2013 4:08:54 PM ~ Talbots: images for wildlife magazines, 2:55:29 ~ 12/17/2013 4:09:04 PM ~ harshman: hve cut back? 2:55:35 ~ 12/17/2013 4:09:10 PM ~ Talbot: Wyoming wildlife mag - has eliminated psotions, limited publication, 2:56:04 ~ 12/17/2013 4:09:39 PM ~ harshman: flight time total? by fund source. may have call back. Thank you for hard work. Public opinion survey, responsive mgt. What was it about? 2:56:54 ~ 12/17/2013 4:10:30 PM ~ Talbott: elk, deer, antelope survey every 5 years, survey public. 2:57:22 ~ 12/17/2013 4:10:57 PM ~ Harshman: not from issue of fee increases? 2:57:33 ~ 12/17/2013 4:11:09 PM ~ Talbott: no, normal operatino 2:57:44 ~ 12/17/2013 4:11:20 PM ~ meier: Thank you for working with Goshen county... 2:58:24 ~ 12/17/2013 4:11:59 PM ~ perkins: fees and fee increase. Thank you for the fee info. species license, when we inc we take in less total revenue. may take 3-5 years to recover. 2:59:41 ~ 12/17/2013 4:13:17 PM ~ Talbott: We have looked at that extensively. Historically license sales drop the year it is inc but ecover within a year or two. License number decreases are result of resource availaility . Ex: deer population has dropped.. so less licenses. 3:00:37 ~ 12/17/2013 4:14:12 PM ~ perkins: Temp effect of fee inc, bigger drop from game number drop which results in fewer licenses. 3:01:08 ~ 12/17/2013 4:14:43 PM ~ Talbott: ..yes, 2011 ,then 2012 hottest dryest year, fawn survival was very low, population of deer dropped in those two years. 3:01:51 ~ 12/17/2013 4:15:26 PM ~ harshman: Thank you. Merry christmas 3:02:54 ~ 12/17/2013 4:16:29 PM ~ Talbott: Thanks to committee and Happy Holidays. 3:03:07 ~ 12/17/2013 4:16:42 PM ~ harshman: report from mgt council, no break, stretch, ... 3:03:34 ~ 12/17/2013 4:17:10 PM ~ Pause 3:03:34 ~ 12/17/2013 4:18:36 PM ~ Resume 3:03:40 ~ 12/17/2013 4:18:42 PM ~ Resume - 3:05:10 ~ 12/17/2013 4:20:11 PM ~ Richards: Explanation 3:06:00 ~ 12/17/2013 4:21:01 PM ~ Richards: 2nd piece for what has legally been incurred. $433M that are still active, prior appropriations. 3:06:45 ~ 12/17/2013 4:21:46 PM ~ Richards: Grants to local communities. 3:07:16 ~ 12/17/2013 4:22:18 PM ~ Richards: Reporting by every agency, thru State Auditor's Office, and clarification of what funds can cary over or not 3:07:40 ~ 12/17/2013 4:22:42 PM ~ Richards: Extension of staff positions, governor creates temporary position to receive grant funds. Permitting, or prohibiting. 3:08:49 ~ 12/17/2013 4:23:51 PM ~ Richards: Movement of funds to 100 series, can't move series out of 100 series. JAC may want to restrict 900 series. 3:10:07 ~ 12/17/2013 4:25:09 PM ~ Nicholas: Know of agencies doing this 3:10:17 ~ 12/17/2013 4:25:18 PM ~ Richards: .Effort todirect LSO , state auditors office and ..for better reports. ..reports shorter, tailored and provide better info.. Will visit with you or provide 300 language in Jan. 3:11:53 ~ 12/17/2013 4:26:54 PM ~ Bebout: anythigng we can get done early is a good idea.. 3:12:17 ~ 12/17/2013 4:27:19 PM ~ Richards: item 2 = reports to legislature, bill can be taken up now, and vot on it tomorrow or do it tomrrow afternoon. 3:12:54 ~ 12/17/2013 4:27:55 PM ~ harshman: work now, public comment tomorrow 3:13:19 ~ 12/17/2013 4:28:21 PM ~ richards: draft 90 W 2, 3:13:47 ~ 12/17/2013 4:28:49 PM ~ Richards: overview ..attempt to reduce reports by mgt council..all reports reduced exceeded by new reports imposed. 9 3:14:46 ~ 12/17/2013 4:29:48 PM ~ richards: 98 reports received bythsi committee. This bill eliminates 4 and directs 2 to more direct authorizing committee..moves 17 reports to the budget. report biennially instead of annually, provide table in the budget document. Ex: cowboy challenge program, table in budget. 3:15:57 ~ 12/17/2013 4:30:58 PM ~ Richards; page 1 - hathaway scholarship program, codify, 2006 session law, info included in WDE budget submission once every two years. Pg 3 - movement of report..Revene and Income , enterprise funds. I am not aware of any agency following this statute other than the liquior dept providing in their budget. codifying what is occuring. pg 3, pg 4 - allows for electronic distribution of budgets unless a pritned copy is requested, effort by budget office to reduce printing costs. Electronically or pritned copy. .. 3:18:12 ~ 12/17/2013 4:33:13 PM ~ meier: Printed copy in each committee room? 3:18:30 ~ 12/17/2013 4:33:31 PM ~ Richards: no - one copy for each floor, copy for this room, copy for auditors, one for public in LSO, one for house floor, one for senate floor, LSo staff. JAC committee. 3:19:03 ~ 12/17/2013 4:34:04 PM ~ Nicholas: ask legislature if they want a printed one, have LSO ask instead of directing people,.. If you don't know to ask.. 3:19:38 ~ 12/17/2013 4:34:40 PM ~ Richards: page 5 report, rec 12-1l13, same info incorporated into bieenail budget request, CIO report on list of federal reports implemented by ETS, reports provided currently. 3:20:18 ~ 12/17/2013 4:35:19 PM ~ richards: page ^ gov report of Nerfa account biennially. 3:20:36 ~ 12/17/2013 4:35:38 PM ~ Richards. page 6,7,8 - distribution of federal mineral royalties, move to budget request. Select committee on capital finance would not be direct recipient, may cause concern. Board of Toruism, TERW would not receive copy of report.. 3:22:03 ~ 12/17/2013 4:37:05 PM ~ Meier: not requiring annual reports, only if there are not exception requests, if there are reception requests, want to know what happpened previous year. 3:22:37 ~ 12/17/2013 4:37:38 PM ~ richards: modify for applicable to supplemental budget. 3:22:48 ~ 12/17/2013 4:37:50 PM ~ richards. county roads, report not to transp comm, info in budget. pg 9, 10, delpt of ag report on donations rec for state fair, put into budget. Can't recall receipt of report from state fair on donations. Quality child care report sent to health committee..public defender program codifies session law of 2005, report no longer going to judiciary committee. pg 11 Adj General on military system, no longer to Gov directly but Gov recieves biennial request so would still receive. pg 12 line 6 Adj General report on youth challenge. no report to transportation, education committees. pg 13 WCCC report war orphans, not to joint education committee, pg 13, UW report elimination, advanced tuition program is not accepting new participants, although still active. Eliminate report. page 14 Workforce services report elimination, displaced workers, good example of a report a few people may be passionate about. page 15 DOT license plate report, none to Transportation and military committee . ditto for next report. page 16 cancer report, still required by DOH and would go to jiont labor health committee. State parks report for use of fees, TRW would not receive but in budget. Page 18 Dept of Health for aging and disabled, not to labor, health committee. 3:28:42 ~ 12/17/2013 4:43:44 PM ~ richards: repeal language on page 19, deleted reports. pg 10 , line 19, example, submission of bids, competitive process. Only state treasurer's office submitted rerport. 3:29:23 ~ 12/17/2013 4:44:25 PM ~ bebout: Services by professionals - accts, attorneys, engineers. 3:29:36 ~ 12/17/2013 4:44:38 PM ~ richards: i think correct, put into statute in 2005. Next item Wyo Bus council report on film industry, report in budget. page 20, section 11, litigation expenditure details for school fianance litigation, report deleted, could be re- enacted if needed. 3:30:55 ~ 12/17/2013 4:45:57 PM ~ harshman: work the bill tomorrow. amendments, etc. 3:31:11 ~ 12/17/2013 4:46:12 PM ~ 3:31:33 ~ 12/17/2013 4:46:34 PM ~ Pause 3:31:33 ~ 12/17/2013 4:51:00 PM ~ Stop Recording