File name: JACBudgetHearings2014_20131220_073228.dcr Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\happropriations\My Documents\JAC Audio 2014 0 ~ 12/20/2013 8:07:47 AM ~ Start Recording 2 ~ 12/20/2013 8:07:49 AM ~ Friday Dec 20, 2013 041-FPES- Fire Prevention and Electrical Safety 54 ~ 12/20/2013 8:08:41 AM ~ Chairman iHarhsman; Welcome and introduction. 1:11 ~ 12/20/2013 8:08:58 AM ~ Applegate: Introduction of staff, Young, Trembath and Morris..Page 4 of budget book lists the exception requests. 0101 = computers, stdf or most agencies, Division 0201 , 3:08 ~ 12/20/2013 8:10:54 AM ~ Stubson: page 8 - division 100: Base budget to std budget, drop of about 300,000? 3:35 ~ 12/20/2013 8:11:22 AM ~ Applegate: Inspection program and electrical licensing, requests for continuing that program is dropping.. contract maint and support. Long term plan is for ETs to take it over, not staff at th etime to support it. 4:59 ~ 12/20/2013 8:12:46 AM ~ Stubson: Saphire program. predate ETS? 5:14 ~ 12/20/2013 8:13:01 AM ~ Applegate: 7 or 8 years. When it began people worked on it one day a week, now have a programmer working on it 5 days a week. close to getting everything on lnie. Electrical, then fire prevention, 6:12 ~ 12/20/2013 8:13:58 AM ~ Stubson: pg 10 exception request 180,000 - What were exp last biennium and expect future 6:38 ~ 12/20/2013 8:14:25 AM ~ Applegate: 285,000 last biennium, will drop down 6:53 ~ 12/20/2013 8:14:40 AM ~ jones: page 12, impact from base to std budget....400 series drop. .....maintenance of software package. 7:48 ~ 12/20/2013 8:15:35 AM ~ Harshman; pg 12 100 series. is that right? 8:20 ~ 12/20/2013 8:16:06 AM ~ Jones: Benefit line item impact - HB 250 retirement increase. 8:49 ~ 12/20/2013 8:16:36 AM ~ harshman: Burkhart and haster t will carry your agency on the floor. 9:02 ~ 12/20/2013 8:16:49 AM ~ Burkhart: Will will ETS be able to take over maintenance of the program.? 9:17 ~ 12/20/2013 8:17:04 AM ~ Applegate: just did a six month extension, possibility of 6 months after that. ETS has not shown us atime frame.... 10:47 ~ 12/20/2013 8:18:34 AM ~ harshman: Divison 100 ER on page 10 and 11 11:03 ~ 12/20/2013 8:18:50 AM ~ Applegate: ER on page 10 saphire program, page 11, computer equipment replacement schedule, 11:24 ~ 12/20/2013 8:19:11 AM ~ harshman: ... 11:33 ~ 12/20/2013 8:19:20 AM ~ Applegate: page 16 ER - replacement of laptop and desktop 12:07 ~ 12/20/2013 8:19:53 AM ~ Stubson: Sketch of how long to get a plan review done? 12:29 ~ 12/20/2013 8:20:16 AM ~ Applegate: we have 21 days by statute for a turn around for a compelte plan. avg is 15-16 days. 12:47 ~ 12/20/2013 8:20:34 AM ~ Stubson: Rev description on page 16 - do not charge other state agencies, pay out of GF 13:05 ~ 12/20/2013 8:20:52 AM ~ applegate: correct, example is UW projects, if funded through grant, then there is a fee. If it is funded out of GF then no fee. 13:32 ~ 12/20/2013 8:21:19 AM ~ Stubson: revnue from local govt or grant charged? constant fees over time? 13:51 ~ 12/20/2013 8:21:38 AM ~ Appleagate: correct, 1 M over two bienniums, has scale off, maintaining, . planning for building, hood systems, above ground fuel tanks, sprinklers, alarms. 14:41 ~ 12/20/2013 8:22:28 AM ~ Stubson: per client basis, what is charge - per hours or per plan? adjust periodically? 14:58 ~ 12/20/2013 8:22:45 AM ~ Applegate: based on the cost of the project - have a calculator on our website.Page 17 ER = replacement of a vehicle, mileage on vehicle may look low but submitted six months ago..avg 20,000 per year as high as 35,000 per year. 301electrical division , page 22, two vehicles replacement, 77,000 miles, has close to 95,000. page 26 = funded out of fees collected for electrical permits and licensing. Our office gets 60%, 40% to GF. used to be 50/50 split. legislature approved change 3 years ago because of inc. in cost od doing business. 18:32 ~ 12/20/2013 8:26:19 AM ~ Stubson: License fees adjusted periodically.. 18:48 ~ 12/20/2013 8:26:35 AM ~ Applegate: electrical permits..raised 3 or 4 years ago. It was an industry request..Wyoming Electrical Association. On plan review, operating on 1997 fees. Senator Case.. 19:59 ~ 12/20/2013 8:27:46 AM ~ Nicholas: cuts for 6% cuts, continued to biennialize? 20:16 ~ 12/20/2013 8:28:03 AM ~ Applegate: cut two personnel, any cuts this year would do the same. Admin staff out of electrical div, fire academy coordinator in Riverton office, moved person from cheyenne to riverton and he is doing a dual purpose job. We have taken an 18-19% cut - had 10% cut under Freudenthal. 21:30 ~ 12/20/2013 8:29:17 AM ~ Stubson: page 25 reductions for 13-14, 95,000= 60% of the fees? 21:52 ~ 12/20/2013 8:29:38 AM ~ Morris: yes 22:00 ~ 12/20/2013 8:29:46 AM ~ Stubson: unit 305, diff of 200,000. Do you have abuild up in the account of unexpended fees? 22:24 ~ 12/20/2013 8:30:11 AM ~ Applegate: end of biennium see 100 to 250 carried over. 22:51 ~ 12/20/2013 8:30:37 AM ~ Stubson: What is the current balance? 22:59 ~ 12/20/2013 8:30:46 AM ~ Applegate: FU - will get the amount 23:14 ~ 12/20/2013 8:31:01 AM ~ Hastert: eliminate personal - bodies or vacated position? 23:40 ~ 12/20/2013 8:31:26 AM ~ Applegate: one was vacated because of a resignation, we would have replaced that. 24:00 ~ 12/20/2013 8:31:47 AM ~ hastert: Fire and Electrical safety.. compromise to public safety, delays in sinspections, overview of cut? 24:28 ~ 12/20/2013 8:32:15 AM ~ Applegate: In field, no change. Some delay in issuing permits. believe saphire program wil help. Licenss issued, filing not done but not detrimental. 25:42 ~ 12/20/2013 8:33:29 AM ~ Hastert: public education or courtesy? holiday lights.. 26:16 ~ 12/20/2013 8:34:03 AM ~ Applegate: public ed position/fire inspector. Individual travels. We do not do PSA on radio. TV spot = 10-12,000 jsut to get started. 27:02 ~ 12/20/2013 8:34:49 AM ~ harshman.. 27:08 ~ 12/20/2013 8:34:55 AM ~ Applegate: there is an avenue and a need, better way to do that. 27:23 ~ 12/20/2013 8:35:09 AM ~ meier: how were positions accounted for - that were cut? 27:52 ~ 12/20/2013 8:35:39 AM ~ Applegate: transfer in electrical, met with Gov, positions capped. EAsier to do it through atrrition than RIF. 28:58 ~ 12/20/2013 8:36:45 AM ~ Meier: a lot of agencies used personnel to get cuts, people ended up in other agencies. 29:20 ~ 12/20/2013 8:37:07 AM ~ Faussett: will get that number 29:27 ~ 12/20/2013 8:37:14 AM ~ Applegate: one person left, went to another agency for a substantial salary inc. Page 27= ER for replacement vehicles, Div 0401 - training exc Riverton fire academy. page 33 ER = computers, two desktops and one laptop. 30:40 ~ 12/20/2013 8:38:27 AM ~ Stubson: Other training resources for state emergency responderr? 31:05 ~ 12/20/2013 8:38:51 AM ~ Applegate: several depts, chey, laramie, do their own in house. Our instructors are out daily assisting. Midwinter fire school in Riverton in Jan will have 300- 400 firefighters. Every one of our instructors will be there. Constantly do into individual deptsand teach. Wildland isdone through Wyoming Forestry. 32:21 ~ 12/20/2013 8:40:07 AM ~ Applegate: page 38 = ER for computers. using laptops at academy, replacement cost of 1200 to 1800, depending on software. WE are going to try Ipads for half the cost. Telecommunications increase, cellphone costs going up so ER is for that. 100 and 400 series dollar figures come to us, we do not devlop them. 33:45 ~ 12/20/2013 8:41:31 AM ~ Meier: statute, are vehicles equipped with bluetooth. 34:01 ~ 12/20/2013 8:41:47 AM ~ Applegate: probably 2 or 3..We offer them. Majority have not asked for them, just pull off the side of the road. 34:35 ~ 12/20/2013 8:42:21 AM ~ harshman: Thanks, no callbacks. Merry Christmas. 34:54 ~ 12/20/2013 8:42:40 AM ~ Harshman: Mixed Martial Arts 046- MMA. Don give introduction, managemen audit isues. Welcome to Pedersen, 36:33 ~ 12/20/2013 8:44:19 AM ~ Shanor_ Chairman of MMA Board 36:52 ~ 12/20/2013 8:44:38 AM ~ Harshman: mgt audit reports... on sharepont, 37:10 ~ 12/20/2013 8:44:56 AM ~ Richards: AGency 046 is ni large hard copy packet of AandI large packet of 006B. MMA seperated as a result of mgt audit. The audit lookedat all boards and commissions. July 8 memo. Created in 2012. Vastly exceeded expectations in terms of revenue generation compared to fiscal note. 10,000 GF . Most boards receive 10 to 25,000 for start up. Some concern that use was to establish rules ..instead of travel, copy, supplies. Travel at state legislator rate. Of 10,000 = 4000 for support, 6000 for personnel. Mgt audit concerned about those expenditures, used for discussion if boards should be required to pay back GF appropriation if financially stable within first 5 eyars of operation. Steep curve of generation revenue, taek a shorter term projection period, JAC provided draft langauage should a new board be created i nthe future, which would require a payback. 41:08 ~ 12/20/2013 8:48:55 AM ~ Richards: Opposite is midwifery board which is still not self sufficient 41:59 ~ 12/20/2013 8:49:46 AM ~ Harshman: 600 paid out to one person or was it among board members? 42:12 ~ 12/20/2013 8:49:59 AM ~ Richards: believe all board members received mileage and per diem. believe one board member served as exec director, salary at legislator rate, not sure when bill was passed, if it was contemplated that salary would be for attending board meetings vs. being exec director 43:09 ~ 12/20/2013 8:50:56 AM ~ Harshman: ...decisions on footnote language in January.. 43:21 ~ 12/20/2013 8:51:07 AM ~ Meier: To Don_ lottery commissioners set salary. same for MMA board or do they set it? 43:47 ~ 12/20/2013 8:51:34 AM ~ Richards: Different activities. Expectation was that AandI would provide th bulk of administrative support so I am not sure Ex dir was contemplated. 44:15 ~ 12/20/2013 8:52:02 AM ~ pedersen: 3 chairman on board, create executive director, we can not statutorily do that, not in budget. someone has to take time off work, make website, figure out HIPa, medical stds, we put it on one person, so fairly compensated that person. No objecttions if someone wants to run a bill that creates an executive director, not neccessarily after ramp up/creation process. We went to LSO and they said we could not do it so went forward and compensated people for time. 45:59 ~ 12/20/2013 8:53:45 AM ~ harshman: Handout? 46:18 ~ 12/20/2013 8:54:05 AM ~ pedersen: That is a split up, portion for travel and contacting, his costs are higher because he did more work, not another way to dot it. 46:48 ~ 12/20/2013 8:54:35 AM ~ Perkins: so much per day, plus per diem and expense? 47:11 ~ 12/20/2013 8:54:57 AM ~ pedersen: True.. 47:24 ~ 12/20/2013 8:55:11 AM ~ harshman: board members - 47:33 ~ 12/20/2013 8:55:20 AM ~ Shanor: VC Jerry Davis, replacing one board member. the one who received the bulk of the money. 47:55 ~ 12/20/2013 8:55:41 AM ~ Harshman: .. 48:03 ~ 12/20/2013 8:55:50 AM ~ Shanor: Introductions, inspector, A and I staff, 48:33 ~ 12/20/2013 8:56:20 AM ~ Harshman: instructions. 48:40 ~ 12/20/2013 8:56:27 AM ~ Shanor: Biggest concern of introducing an entriely new regulatory framework on an industry..wanted cheapest fees, simple transparent process to relieve the issue. hit the gournd runing. Industry was waiting for us to sanction ..One of few states without regulations, which provide more legitimacy to the industry. 18 events . Can afford to regulate Wyoming shows, small and large. Unique to be able to do that. Created Board without OH expense, utilized Google platform, Website, use AanI for accountig and billing. Promulgated rules based on national std. Colorado boxing commission, joine American boxing association. States struggling to regulate amature boxing events. handout packet - Exhibit B is example of SD legislature. We are having a regional impact. 53:01 ~ 12/20/2013 9:00:48 AM ~ harshman: 53:06 ~ 12/20/2013 9:00:52 AM ~ Pedersen: Budget presentation. Thank the c ommittee...History of MMA - did not legalize activity, regulated activity already taking place.. Penalties for non-show. Ticket holders protected by 10,000 bond. If you fought in Wyoming, would be banned and penalized. Now the fight counts. Tommy Gun in Rocky 5 - HIV. He fought in Wyoming because we had no regulatory requirements. It would not take place now. Night before this legilation took effect, there was afight. They were people pulling out of the crowd to fight because they did not have enough participants. Two guys who fought, were told they would be given 4oo and medical bills. The promoter left and did not pay anything. 2500 basic level insurance for each fighter. 56:54 ~ 12/20/2013 9:04:40 AM ~ pedersen: Creating a commission - errors. peacock vs wolf system.. I put in two things - only asked for 10,000. Side effect is not having spending authority for revenue coming in so had B-11's . Now we have authority to spend . Should be in legislature, that it should auto fold if not self-sustaining. 58:31 ~ 12/20/2013 9:06:18 AM ~ Pedersen: Budget change, exhbit 3 - AandI tells you base budget. We did not have th need for all the travel expenses after ramped up. Moving to regional inspectors. Had to pay for out of state inspectors, now we have trained inspectors in Wyoming. Page 11 - moved 500 out of 100 series to 900 series. Left 300 for commisioners meeting. 200sereis, bought gopros and computers. Two gopros on cage and one on the ref's chest so can solve fight disputes. Those are ont time costs. We wuld like to use some of the money for training opportunities, to decrease cost for local promoters. Part of purpose of commission is to promote an industry. 1:02:02 ~ 12/20/2013 9:09:49 AM ~ Stubson: Travel? 1:04:02 ~ 12/20/2013 9:11:49 AM ~ Pedersen: Less travel, more training. 1:04:33 ~ 12/20/2013 9:12:19 AM ~ Harshman: $5,000 up to $13,000. What used for? 1:04:58 ~ 12/20/2013 9:12:44 AM ~ Pedersen: Training, not just for fighters, but judges, inspectors and refs too. 900 series use. Not for promotional. Pre-fight physical, hire doctor. 1:09:02 ~ 12/20/2013 9:16:48 AM ~ Shanor: New promoter, contact commission, get WY license, put up $10,000 surety bond, indicate venue, event permit, fighters must get bloodwork, fighters license, fight card put together by promoter, commission vets matches, commisison staff show with inspector, referee, judges, plus travel by all show staff. Goal of better distribution of regional officials. 1:12:59 ~ 12/20/2013 9:20:46 AM ~ Meier: Where do profits go? 1:13:25 ~ 12/20/2013 9:21:11 AM ~ Pedersen: Not to general fund, keep to fund expansion within state. 1:14:49 ~ 12/20/2013 9:22:36 AM ~ Shanor: Contested case hearings. No funds for hiring attorney. 1:15:31 ~ 12/20/2013 9:23:17 AM ~ Esquibel: Promoter takes care of advertising? 1:15:49 ~ 12/20/2013 9:23:36 AM ~ Pedersen: Promote entity, not event. 1:16:20 ~ 12/20/2013 9:24:07 AM ~ Esquibel: Events on website? 1:16:28 ~ 12/20/2013 9:24:15 AM ~ Shanor: Yes, calendar of events. 1:16:41 ~ 12/20/2013 9:24:28 AM ~ Nicholas: Can a bar put n a fight and not sanctioned thru commission? 1:18:14 ~ 12/20/2013 9:26:01 AM ~ Shanon: If intent to harm, commission has jurisdiction, not with something such as professonal wrestling. Questionable if just boxing match., not being regulated by commision, but if grappling moves, yes. 1:21:18 ~ 12/20/2013 9:29:05 AM ~ Richards: Only appropriate total of $18,500. Footnote in oder due to moving money from 100 series. 1:22:52 ~ 12/20/2013 9:30:39 AM ~ Jones: If governor aware of alternative proposal. 1:23:19 ~ 12/20/2013 9:31:06 AM ~ Esquibel: Alcohol service? 1:24:33 ~ 12/20/2013 9:32:20 AM ~ Pedersen: Always up to venue and promoter whether alcohol or not 1:24:52 ~ 12/20/2013 9:32:39 AM ~ Jones: Highlight, page 10, footnote recommendation. Last 1 year, 8 B-11 with $21,600 of spending authority. Approach annually for budget management control. Growth period for commission, build reserve. 1:28:16 ~ 12/20/2013 9:36:02 AM ~ Burkhart: Fund every year? 1:28:29 ~ 12/20/2013 9:36:16 AM ~ Jones: Yes, supplemental, and again for biennium. 1:28:50 ~ 12/20/2013 9:36:36 AM ~ 1:29:03 ~ 12/20/2013 9:36:50 AM ~ Pause 1:29:03 ~ 12/20/2013 9:54:29 AM ~ Resume 1:29:05 ~ 12/20/2013 9:54:30 AM ~ 211-BOE-Board of Equalization Steve Olmstead, Director Tom Glause, Board Member Jane Mockler, Board Member Jana Fitzgerald, Executive Assistant Mockler: Capital Commission meeting update on Capitol renovation. Architects available first week of session. 1:36:42 ~ 12/20/2013 10:02:08 AM ~ Olmstead: 3 board members, 3 staff. 1 position eliminated. Page 12, exception request of increase in dues and out-of-state travel to continuing education and traning for staff and board. governor partially approved. Training of county officials on conducting a hearing . Page 13, replacement of computers, as recommended by ETS. Page 13, replacement of hearing room chairs for board. 1:42:21 ~ 12/20/2013 10:07:47 AM ~ Perkins: Software, canvas system. 1:43:21 ~ 12/20/2013 10:08:47 AM ~ Olmstead: Update microsoft office suite and wordperfect upgrade. Needed for new hardware. 1:44:05 ~ 12/20/2013 10:09:31 AM ~ Perkins: CAMA training for admin staff, confidence in company 1:44:44 ~ 12/20/2013 10:10:09 AM ~ Olmstead: CAMA important product for Department of Revenue, as well as Board of Equalization. Harris Computers purchasing CCI product, as allowed by bankruptcy court, 1:48:44 ~ 12/20/2013 10:14:09 AM ~ Perkins: If Harris Computers doesn't pick up CAMA system, a loss to both Department of Revenue and Board of Equalization 1:49:18 ~ 12/20/2013 10:14:44 AM ~ Olmstead: Good place with version 4. Counties comfortable with, so can move forward with other issues, such as work practices. 900 series for $10,000 for equalization if needed in any county. Will revert at end of biennium; not used. 1:51:48 ~ 12/20/2013 10:17:13 AM ~ Perkins: 59 cases filed, relatively constant? 1:52:07 ~ 12/20/2013 10:17:32 AM ~ Olmstead: Slightly down, but hearings numbers running average. 11 opinion, 3 in final review. 4 mineral hearings, 2 sales and use hearings. 1:53:27 ~ 12/20/2013 10:18:52 AM ~ Dockstader: $7800, training 1:55:47 ~ 12/20/2013 10:21:12 AM ~ Olmstead: Determined if each staff member and board member went both years. Will continue training, finding grants to assist. 1:57:04 ~ 12/20/2013 10:22:29 AM ~ Olmstead: Rule review...... 1:58:55 ~ 12/20/2013 10:24:21 AM ~ Harshman; Bill draft, 1:59:02 ~ 12/20/2013 10:24:27 AM ~ Richards: Committee tabled the bill "reports to legislature", amendment by Bebout to strike a report, committee held the bill over for a potential amendment by Senator meier. I met with Senator Meier, did not feel additional language was necessary. 1:59:57 ~ 12/20/2013 10:25:22 AM ~ harshman: Work the bill - make it a senate file. 2:01:47 ~ 12/20/2013 10:27:13 AM ~ perkins: copy of the bill ? 2:01:59 ~ 12/20/2013 10:27:24 AM ~ Harshman: worked the bill, hand an amendment. Are there any other amendments? Went through it page by page, opened and closed public commentment, laid it back. 2:03:07 ~ 12/20/2013 10:28:33 AM ~ Perkins: Supplemental budget ...reference - if someone changes something in the supplemental budget, it would show up so decided we did not need to change the language. Comments. Questions called by Stubson. vote called by Richards. 2:04:22 ~ 12/20/2013 10:29:48 AM ~ Richards: vote by roll call - 2:04:44 ~ 12/20/2013 10:30:10 AM ~ Harshman: this will be a senate file. Anything else to share? 2:04:55 ~ 12/20/2013 10:30:21 AM ~ Richards: yes, staff updates, loaded on calendar for today at 11am. What agencies are benefitting from those funds? What is the anticipated ending? CREG meeting on January 3........ 2:06:09 ~ 12/20/2013 10:31:35 AM ~ Dean Tempte: Summary of 2015-2016 Gov rec approriations from Tobacco Trust fund. Total =49 M for budget. Majority = 30M = Dept of Health, substance abuse division, behavioral health, DOC substance abuse treatment, .....field services division. Conversations with adminsitrator Leslie O Steen in AG office. Payments are to be in perputity for majority of the payments. Strategic..payments will sunset in 2017 . range of 600,000 to 1.3 M per year. Page 2 shows interest earnings by fiscal year..In FY 13 = 6.3 M total inv inc. Before then it was 4 to 4.5 M. Final page of handout is summary of appropriation versus expenditure and showing cash balance. 2:09:36 ~ 12/20/2013 10:35:02 AM ~ Stubson: permanent funds are involite? opportunity to spend away funds? 2:09:56 ~ 12/20/2013 10:35:22 AM ~ Richards: Involite by statute..so could amend that. 2:10:30 ~ 12/20/2013 10:35:56 AM ~ harshman: History - initial payments, set up perm fund? statutory perm fund, how did we build it? 2:10:55 ~ 12/20/2013 10:36:21 AM ~ Tempte: Inception in 1999. continuing since then. funds can change based on tobacco consumption. 2:11:31 ~ 12/20/2013 10:36:57 AM ~ Harshman: ? 2:11:36 ~ 12/20/2013 10:37:02 AM ~ Richards: master settlement funds flow to inc fund , not the corpus. Any unspent then flows to the corpus of the Perm Fund. Tobocco funds beneftis from ..... 2:12:20 ~ 12/20/2013 10:37:46 AM ~ harshman: how big isthe fund? 2:12:27 ~ 12/20/2013 10:37:52 AM ~ Richards: 70 M, inc fund = 34 M. Substantial portion of 34 M has been appropriated but not spent. 2:12:55 ~ 12/20/2013 10:38:21 AM ~ Harshman: payments continue forever. Are states free to spend in way they want or is there a mandate? 2:13:20 ~ 12/20/2013 10:38:45 AM ~ Richards: Great latitude. Wyoming has chosen to use for substance abuse programs. Wyoming elected to receive funds in perputity. 2:14:03 ~ 12/20/2013 10:39:28 AM ~ Tempte: Revenues flowing in FY 14 - Major GF rev cat = severance taxes = 4.8% ahead, price of oil, projected price for FY 2018, First three months price was healthy, but prices being reported to DOR now is about 10 abiove , around 95 or 96 dollars. Coal and natural gas look like they are about where they should be now..coal and gas production volume, adjusted down based on mkts. 2:16:02 ~ 12/20/2013 10:41:27 AM ~ harshman: Withdrawals on gas storage? 2:16:14 ~ 12/20/2013 10:41:39 AM ~ Tempte: drawdowns helped strengthened price, projected vs actual not an issue. Volume is issue - running a little behind. Coal production volume right where they should be but lower than 2012. Coal price in 2013 adjusted downward, coal spot mkt price took a hit now is 11 per ton . projected is 13.5 and 13.75. Prices coming down on coal modestly. Sales and Use Tax coming in well. Through Nov, sales tax numbers, at about 1% ahead. Forecasts reduced from jan to oct. 2:18:34 ~ 12/20/2013 10:43:59 AM ~ Harshman: Statewide avg. Some parts ofstate doing beter than other. any data. 2:18:51 ~ 12/20/2013 10:44:17 AM ~ Tempte: looked at totals, 2:19:00 ~ 12/20/2013 10:44:26 AM ~ Tempte: investment income info through Nov = Perm Min trust fund..running behind. State agency pool inv incom at 1% ahead, so total about 1.3 % behind the forecst of FY 13, which was a banner year. What contintues to impact the inv inc projection is increase in fixed inc mkt, no upward pressure on those rates. Those reve projections reduced from Jan.. GF revenue from all other sources like cig tax, liquor tax, running 1% ahead. Overall GF running about 1.4% ahead of forecst. 2:20:59 ~ 12/20/2013 10:46:25 AM ~ harshman: are sev taxes 1/3 of revenue 2:21:12 ~ 12/20/2013 10:46:37 AM ~ Richards: varies yearly, guess about 20% 2:21:24 ~ 12/20/2013 10:46:49 AM ~ Tempte: 1.5 Billion, total, about 50% for poriton. 3% ahead because of inc price of oil. spot mkts data showed price came down. 2:22:25 ~ 12/20/2013 10:47:51 AM ~ perkins: ...same as... 2:22:34 ~ 12/20/2013 10:48:00 AM ~ Tempte: Federal sequestration for FY 13 fro march through Sept, which is end of Fed year. 51 M of federal mineral royalties, sent back to treasurers office. 2:23:12 ~ 12/20/2013 10:48:37 AM ~ harshman: do we have profile? 2:23:20 ~ 12/20/2013 10:48:46 AM ~ Tempte: govt shutdown happening when CREG report was coming out. CREG report Oct 23, check showed up on Oct 30. CCoal lease bonus counted when we see them is how we treated sequestration funds....Oct 30 notified sequester would continue at 8%. Budget passed at federal level. Budget passed softened sequestration, but no details. Fed data on Jan 18 but CREG comes out before then. In contact with . 2:26:12 ~ 12/20/2013 10:51:37 AM ~ harshman: total FMR and projections? 2:26:22 ~ 12/20/2013 10:51:47 AM ~ Tempte: FY 14 forecast = 761 M . Nov FMR payment shows hitting forecast dead on. head on severance taxes, sequestration ... 2:27:11 ~ 12/20/2013 10:52:36 AM ~ Harshman: new budget included 2% adminstrative cost, 2:27:36 ~ 12/20/2013 10:53:02 AM ~ Tempte: Has been going on since 2008, now made permanent. 2:27:56 ~ 12/20/2013 10:53:22 AM ~ Stubson: feds withholding 8% 2:28:04 ~ 12/20/2013 10:53:30 AM ~ Tempte: yes 2:28:08 ~ 12/20/2013 10:53:33 AM ~ STubson: anticipate see again oct of next year. 2:28:19 ~ 12/20/2013 10:53:44 AM ~ Tempte: ...yes 2:28:37 ~ 12/20/2013 10:54:02 AM ~ harshman: wil not profile the 8% 2:28:45 ~ 12/20/2013 10:54:10 AM ~ Tempte: Correct. possible sequestration amount not built in. 2:28:57 ~ 12/20/2013 10:54:23 AM ~ Richards: In jan profile on CREG - will recongize 50 M cash, some consideration of ongoing sequstraton probably not at 8% with expectation of it being paid back. By ignoring those things in Oct, will not vary that much. The timing of the payments will vary. SAO recognized m in dif year than state treasurer office. 2:30:21 ~ 12/20/2013 10:55:46 AM ~ Tempte: meeting on Jan 3 for CREG, Don give update on the 17 2:30:37 ~ 12/20/2013 10:56:02 AM ~ Richards: Michael has update on county fire suppression. 2:30:56 ~ 12/20/2013 10:56:22 AM ~ Swank: Fire suppression account. forestry division, state land office.. They have not reconciled 2012 and 2013 fireseason, working with forest service to reconcile the bills. to know what they owe for those seasons. current balance of acct = 25M, including $ approriated previously, anticipage 19 ro 20 M left after reconciliation. Their budget request is down..running avg for 10 year 7.6 M per biennium. 2.58 M for biennium is quite a bit lower than expected. 2:32:33 ~ 12/20/2013 10:57:59 AM ~ harshman: 20 M left will revert? 2:32:41 ~ 12/20/2013 10:58:06 AM ~ Swank: i don't think so. 2:32:46 ~ 12/20/2013 10:58:11 AM ~ Jones: money will nto revert, approriate to the account itself. Some concern about ability to get reconciliations down befoer th end of the biennium.. concern reflected in their budget document. 2:33:27 ~ 12/20/2013 10:58:53 AM ~ richards: Dept of Revenue, dept of Audit, with transfer from DOt. 200,000 to dept of audit 750,000 to DOR. special funds. 2:33:59 ~ 12/20/2013 10:59:25 AM ~ Dawn Agar: talked to DOT, apge 35 of budgett in mineral tax division, DOT is paying to DOR. In the past this was determined as a collection fee for severance tax...legislature through the years..Severance tax collection by DOt is down from 50 M to 7 M. When fee was determined, collecting more money. no they are not, amount paid to DOR has not changed. There is no Memo of understanding A 13.55 of fee of collection services. 2:35:39 ~ 12/20/2013 11:01:04 AM ~ Wallis; page? 2:35:43 ~ 12/20/2013 11:01:08 AM ~ Agar: page 35 of DOR budget..coming into mineral tax division. 2:35:57 ~ 12/20/2013 11:01:23 AM ~ Nicholas: earmark. 2:36:04 ~ 12/20/2013 11:01:29 AM ~ harshman: Revnue is burkhart, wallis is dot. 2:36:15 ~ 12/20/2013 11:01:40 AM ~ Wallis - corresponding spot, ? 2:36:25 ~ 12/20/2013 11:01:51 AM ~ Agar: no - will not see it. it is part of the commission funds. 2:36:39 ~ 12/20/2013 11:02:04 AM ~ Agar: Cahper 17 report, detailed info comprising makeup of budget developement. provided a summary in sharepont and on thumbdrive. on 201 document. Concern about salary adjustment without legislation. salary reclassification and salary adjusts. I tried to identify those agencies with a large amount. Some are hiring diff/experiencelevel. Addresses the budget creep. Biennialization of budget cuts. Gov office make decision not to biennialize. Compared cuts, identified areas of possible reduction if that is a path you choose to go down, place to start. 2:39:28 ~ 12/20/2013 11:04:53 AM ~ Harshman: appreciate your work. day back? 2:39:52 ~ 12/20/2013 11:05:17 AM ~ harshman: back on the 13th - Merry Christmas. thank you to staff. , 2:40:46 ~ 12/20/2013 11:06:11 AM ~ Stop Recording