File name: JACBudgetHearings2013_20130109_074102.dcr Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\happropriations\Desktop\JAC Audio 2013 0 ~ 1/9/2013 7:56:23 AM ~ 0 ~ 1/9/2013 7:56:23 AM ~ Start Recording 12 ~ 1/9/2013 7:56:35 AM ~ January 9, 2013 Agency Hearings 24 ~ 1/9/2013 7:56:48 AM ~ roll Call: Quorom established 49 ~ 1/9/2013 7:57:12 AM ~ Bebout: JAC rules, proposed amendments, 1:11 ~ 1/9/2013 7:57:35 AM ~ Harshamn moved, esquibel seconded 1:18 ~ 1/9/2013 7:57:41 AM ~ Perkins: Final vote ? 1:28 ~ 1/9/2013 7:57:52 AM ~ Bebout: Define #2 1:38 ~ 1/9/2013 7:58:02 AM ~ Don: individual motions on aposition, say in teh secretary's state, requireds a majority. Approving the budger takes 4 votes in the house and 3 in the senate. 2:09 ~ 1/9/2013 7:58:32 AM ~ Perkins: "exception: final vote, what is budget item in this context? 2:26 ~ 1/9/2013 7:58:50 AM ~ Don: Can change the word item to bill 2:42 ~ 1/9/2013 7:59:06 AM ~ Meier: Moves for change in wording, otherwise would need full membership, strike item, insert budget bill 3:10 ~ 1/9/2013 7:59:33 AM ~ Motion for amendment moved, seconded, passed 3:19 ~ 1/9/2013 7:59:43 AM ~ Bebout: Motion to accept draft rules approved. Will start meetings on time. If there is not a quorom, will meet with members. When taking breaks, will give time for gaveling in, will start on time. Senator Meier is vice chair for Senate appropriations committee. will not limit discussion. Senators have agencies that they are responsible for tp [resemt tp tje f;ppr. I will look to you to lead the questions for the agencies you are responsible for carrying on the floor, then will go to the rest of the committee. 5:25 ~ 1/9/2013 8:01:48 AM ~ Harshman: Eli and I met for 1 1/2 hours. All is run through the chair. If someone is asking questions, still go through the chairman but do not have to give head nod. This is always recroded and live streamed. No microphones so important for her to hear. Rep. Wallis will be the house vice chair. If I am working a bill, Eli will chair. If I am working a house bill, then Rep. Wallis will chair. The agencies have been divied up. I will be the presenter on your agency so I will lead....The workload is divided. Come off floor at 2:55, be done at 6. No afternoon sessions unless we have to on Friday 7:51 ~ 1/9/2013 8:04:15 AM ~ Bebout: Noon is open in case we have standing committee bills or spill over. This is the only committee that we all serve on: 8:25 ~ 1/9/2013 8:04:48 AM ~ Maxfield: Introductions: Pat Arp, Kelly Vierk, Nelson, Collin Overview and history, finances and cuts Duties dictated by statue, election laws, business entity laws, security laws, bucking horse an drider statutes and more ..Ways to better deliver a high level of service. Technology projects listed. Our work is day to day administration of statutes. Historically, Oman, Meyer and I have not been before the committee with supplemental budget requests. we have not grown the agency. 38 m returned to the GF. Most of 38 million comes in in 100-150 increments. 75% of our GF budget is people. Operating costs are the other 25%. It is not possible to cut 4% without cutting a person and operate the agency. There is a person in the position who has been there for 8 years and with state govt 27 years. Cutting from the 25% would cripple our services. It bothers me to cut this position. maintnenace for computer.... 12:44 ~ 1/9/2013 8:09:07 AM ~ Vierk: High level overview, present proposed cut. All stautorial dutes number 47. All are listed in our budget book......register 104,000 companies, 3000 ag liens and UPC. Regulation of investing = stock borkers and brokerage firms, fraud prevention and investor awareness, notary publics, commerical agents, responsible for all state agency rules, international application....Staff of 31 people 6.7 million per bieennium, return 38 million to GF pg 10 of supplemental budget book, section 7, overall.. ..right side gov's recommendation is 4% of our total budget. Position 27 which is our sole attorney position is being put forrward. Remainder is from computer maintenance funding to reach 130,000+. 16:55 ~ 1/9/2013 8:13:18 AM ~ Bebout: Every budget we will talk about biennialized. Don, what have we done with each budget? 17:19 ~ 1/9/2013 8:13:42 AM ~ Don: unusual budget in that all cuts are biennialized. The positions being cuts is 30% special reveneue and 70% GF. afeter page 18 on the D-3 sheet...shows funds. will move special revenue to a different account 18:13 ~ 1/9/2013 8:14:36 AM ~ Arp: Compliance division is paritally funded from GF and SEC funds (stock brokerage fees ) pays for 2 1/2 positions. we will make attorney position all GF, change so other position is SEc funded. 19:24 ~ 1/9/2013 8:15:47 AM ~ Bebout: internal, it will be GF. 19:36 ~ 1/9/2013 8:15:59 AM ~ Don; Correct 19:40 ~ 1/9/2013 8:16:03 AM ~ Bebout: 3 constitiutional amendments. What is the cost and what is the impact on your budget? update please? 20:08 ~ 1/9/2013 8:16:31 AM ~ Arp: new fund set up. As each constitutional amendment comes forward, we are asked to do the fiscal note. cost to publish. Certain amount put into its own fund. We are the flow through. When the bill comes through for publishing in newspapers, we make payments. The residual amount goest back to the GF after the election, end of Nov of election year. 21:28 ~ 1/9/2013 8:17:52 AM ~ Bebout: How much in there and what was actual cost? 21:41 ~ 1/9/2013 8:18:04 AM ~ Arp:..Balance ? actual cost 373,000. 21:58 ~ 1/9/2013 8:18:21 AM ~ Bebout: How will it work if we have constitutional amendment on ballot next year? 22:15 ~ 1/9/2013 8:18:39 AM ~ Arp: Will be the same as previous years, will know cost,s, funds will be held out, two sessions. Out of that fund, pay for publication, the rest will revert. 22:52 ~ 1/9/2013 8:19:15 AM ~ Bebout: 37 million from special revenue, reports filled out by business, a time when tried to generate more money from larger corporations. Is that still active? 23:29 ~ 1/9/2013 8:19:52 AM ~ Arp: We were first state to start with LLC. Wyoming is popular for that. We do not need to advertise. Fees have grown steadily. With corporations, there is an annual report fee. Most pay the minimum fee which is $50. High rollers pay based on % of assets in Wyoming. That could be revisited by the legislature. Balance....85% of 100,000 are small, pay minimum fee of $50. 25:24 ~ 1/9/2013 8:21:47 AM ~ Bebout: If do not file, null and void, Has system smoothed out? 25:39 ~ 1/9/2013 8:22:03 AM ~ Maxfield: yes...reminder by email. have fewer cases of delinquency. 26:05 ~ 1/9/2013 8:22:28 AM ~ Harshman: Your proposal on maintenance fees.. do not want to cut now, have a huge bill in 5 years. 26:40 ~ 1/9/2013 8:23:03 AM ~ Maxfield: Major IT project that is effective is just teh beginning, then need to maintain the system. Most everyhting we do is statutory. Difficult decision. We do not want to do either one but know we are part of the game. 27:30 ~ 1/9/2013 8:23:53 AM ~ Harshman: Out of state travel? 27:41 ~ 1/9/2013 8:24:04 AM ~ Maxfield: Minimal, 1 conference a year in Washington, LT Gov conference I do not attend. 15,000 biennium. 28:13 ~ 1/9/2013 8:24:36 AM ~ Meier: Growth in general. # employees in 2000? give idea of growth. 28:45 ~ 1/9/2013 8:25:08 AM ~ Arp: Added a compliance division auditor, added program of regulating commercial agents because of business fraud. Attorney position was not here that many years ago. Two positions added quite a few years ago were compliance auditors, about 5 years ago, added a controller position. Amount of money coming through agency was skyrocketing so it did not seem wise to have only one clerk position, so allowed a controller. 30:14 ~ 1/9/2013 8:26:38 AM ~ Meier: A lot of positions were special funds, not GF 30:28 ~ 1/9/2013 8:26:51 AM ~ Bebout: Every agency should be prepared to have that for us. 30:45 ~ 1/9/2013 8:27:08 AM ~ Maxfield: Every cut would be detrimental to agency. I stand on our record, being frugal. Never asked for supplemental budget request. 31:32 ~ 1/9/2013 8:27:55 AM ~ Perkins: Maintenance fees on software: small cut in fees for software, will we have to spend more in the future for a capital .. 32:12 ~ 1/9/2013 8:28:35 AM ~ Maxfield: ..maintenance is ongoing. easier to stay on top of it and fiscally responsible to do so, it will grow. 32:43 ~ 1/9/2013 8:29:07 AM ~ Perkins: What do you see as differnce in number of filings and fees paid 2000 to now? 33:09 ~ 1/9/2013 8:29:32 AM ~ Arp: Filings estimate: 50 to 58, 000 now in the 100,000. It steadily grows. It does not up and down like the stock market. attributed to Wyoming's reputation of types of filings and our turn around time is 5 days by statute. In other states, it can take a month or longer so the speed is attractive. Fees have not changed much over time. 50 or 100 depending on the filing. Some reluctance to raise the fees. 35:00 ~ 1/9/2013 8:31:23 AM ~ perkins: Filings have doubled, assume revenue has almost doubled? 35:18 ~ 1/9/2013 8:31:41 AM ~ Maxfield: True 35:23 ~ 1/9/2013 8:31:46 AM ~ Perkins: Fees charged in-state, have you done a comparision with neighboring states, comparable to? 35:52 ~ 1/9/2013 8:32:15 AM ~ Arp:Yes we have done studies. A few things we charged more and some that we charge less for. We are in the running. Nevada and Delaware are the other big filing states. Nevada increased their fees which drove fiings to wyoming. 36:45 ~ 1/9/2013 8:33:08 AM ~ Perkins: Price points..broader application than this agency. 36:56 ~ 1/9/2013 8:33:19 AM ~ Bebout: Flow through money from Help America. 37:11 ~ 1/9/2013 8:33:34 AM ~ Arp: Help americal is federal funds, out of 2000 election. Most funds are residual from that. Mostly one time. Greatest outgo was required purchase of electronic voting equipment, operation of statewide voter registration system which is the high technology. 38:11 ~ 1/9/2013 8:34:34 AM ~ Bebout: 38:15 ~ 1/9/2013 8:34:39 AM ~ Arp: We have 2 year contracts because of biennium funding, two year cycle and contracts. It was bid out. Once we have that company we have stayed with them or a subsidiary of them. 39:15 ~ 1/9/2013 8:35:38 AM ~ Don: State TReasurer? Max thankyou. 39:30 ~ 1/9/2013 8:35:54 AM ~ Maxfield: stayed within time limit. 39:42 ~ 1/9/2013 8:36:06 AM ~ Agency 004- STo - Treasuer 40:17 ~ 1/9/2013 8:36:40 AM ~ Gordon: Two months ago assumed positon of state treasurer. Meyer, Lummis, Stan Smith, will meet challenges...congratulate staff on work ethic. Introduction of staff: Sharon Garland, Michael Newman, Betsey anderson,. .... 20 interviews. We are well diversified by assets and by strategies. Mineral Trust Fund, Hathaway Funds.. combined total of 15.8 billion for all funds. Coal and gas revenue may face long term trials, people in Washington impact on us..2005 series capital bonds, savings. Thank those who invested in this issuance. WDCA, WRS, state board of land..state commisioner meeting . Second largest offering of unclaimed property in Feb, return property that is rightfully theirs. Operating with two fewer staff. We can continue to do that for the time being. I may come back in future budgets for reinstatement of those positions. tirm pver tp De[itu Gar;amd. She presented our budget earlier. 46:33 ~ 1/9/2013 8:42:57 AM ~ Bebout: Thanks. appreciate the relationship you have started 46:48 ~ 1/9/2013 8:43:11 AM ~ Garland: Handouts number 097 and 054. Page 8 of budget, gov requests to cut 612,000+. explanation of cuts. In operation division, the 165,000 eliminates one full time position ; refer to budget. Gov has approved the recommendations. Second cut in veteran's tax exemption fund. We reimburse the counties for propterty tax exampetions and indian tax exemptions on motor vehicles 49:21 ~ 1/9/2013 8:45:44 AM ~ Bebout: result of Okalahoma law suit 49:28 ~ 1/9/2013 8:45:52 AM ~ Garland: I believe that is correct 49:35 ~ 1/9/2013 8:45:58 AM ~ Garland: Statute reads that the Treasuer shall, or may. We have pointed that out. Because it says shall, the Governor decided not to make that cut in either one of those programs. 50:10 ~ 1/9/2013 8:46:33 AM ~ Bebout: Don, biennialized? 50:30 ~ 1/9/2013 8:46:53 AM ~ Don: State Treasurer's office does cut 8%, being cut for 24 months. Next go around will have to..Half of it can not be biennialized. Salaries in 103 and 105 series: half of those two numbers can not be bieenialized. Treasurers office has elected to remove from ..series. They will face a steeper cliff going into the next bieenium 51:54 ~ 1/9/2013 8:48:17 AM ~ Bebout: Sharon, how will you look at that? Can have the same discussion this fall or deal with that? Will ive us a letter back 52:18 ~ 1/9/2013 8:48:41 AM ~ Richards: No process yet established for that. 52:28 ~ 1/9/2013 8:48:52 AM ~ Bebout: will establish it now, get back to me on that 52:40 ~ 1/9/2013 8:49:03 AM ~ Harshman: Veteran's exemption Handout 055. Show amounts of reimbursment to counties. in 2007/08 wnet up in 09/10 because of more leigible veerans. Increased in 2012 and will increase in 13/14. Every year we have come back in and asked for that money. If we cut the 421+ we would be short. If the cut is not taken we might be ahead 153,00. Dept of Revenue runs the program. We reimburse. 54:55 ~ 1/9/2013 8:51:18 AM ~ Bebout: Substantial change in law to expand it? Significant increase were stautory? 55:14 ~ 1/9/2013 8:51:37 AM ~ Garland: some statutory changes. Most increase due to word of mouth. 55:30 ~ 1/9/2013 8:51:53 AM ~ Bebout: legislature says "shall". supreme court ruling on native american 56:07 ~ 1/9/2013 8:52:30 AM ~ Perkins: since it says "shall", if there is a shortfall of 267,000+, does the treasurer pay from other funds or does itn ot get paid? 56:45 ~ 1/9/2013 8:53:09 AM ~ Garland: I would come back and ask the committee. We do not have it in other funds to do that. budget is tight. 57:05 ~ 1/9/2013 8:53:28 AM ~ Perkins: no money in fund, so counties would have to eat their share. 57:26 ~ 1/9/2013 8:53:50 AM ~ Meier: Some agencies are only custodians to legislative program. cuts to the program by the custodian. custodian is not in position to make those cuts. We may hve to look at them ourselves. Back to the position cut: if we struck for the period of 24 months out, what would striking that language and deleting that position, what effect would that have 59:19 ~ 1/9/2013 8:55:42 AM ~ Bebout: 59:23 ~ 1/9/2013 8:55:46 AM ~ Richards: State Treasurer would get to keep 75,000 59:40 ~ 1/9/2013 8:56:03 AM ~ Meier: Elinimate the position forever until restored by the legislature. What would that effect be. 1:00:00 ~ 1/9/2013 8:56:23 AM ~ richards: That is the effect of this language. Applying two years of savings by cutting July 1. 1:00:37 ~ 1/9/2013 8:57:00 AM ~ Meier: position has been vacant for the entire biennium so want o use those savings. 1:00:58 ~ 1/9/2013 8:57:21 AM ~ Jones: Reference to 24 months, an agency is proposing to take a position that has been vacant since the beginning of the budget, proposing using the savings toward the budget reduction. They are proposing to cut that position. Full 24 month credit towards reduction. That will continue into 15/16. When you go into 15/16 will receive additional 12 month credit toward remaining reduction target. There is a second target. 1:02:28 ~ 1/9/2013 8:58:51 AM ~ Meier: All those savings can not be used in the normal pool that pays for vacation days or other days, that agencies usually use that reversion for. can not be used twice? 1:02:59 ~ 1/9/2013 8:59:22 AM ~ Jones: Will be pulled i..won't be reflected... 1:03:41 ~ 1/9/2013 9:00:04 AM ~ Stubson: Two FTE's ... 1:04:07 ~ 1/9/2013 9:00:30 AM ~ Garland: other psoition is not GF position and we have only been asked to cut GF. The other position is funded with investment income funds. 1:04:31 ~ 1/9/2013 9:00:54 AM ~ Bebout: 65% gone because of vet's exemption..Gov.. Looking to next year, can you get there. Take care of 15.8 billion dollars. may not be able to do..We should know where you were in 02 and where you are now. Thank you. 1:05:31 ~ 1/9/2013 9:01:54 AM ~ Bebout: 1:06:24 ~ 1/9/2013 9:02:47 AM ~ bebout workforce services dept of audit 1:06:54 ~ 1/9/2013 9:03:17 AM ~ Vogel Dept of audit present 8 % reduction 25.4m budget IT consolidation projected rev budget FTEs 110 Revenue dept supp0ort rev collection taxes, verify accuracy of funds collected. Public funds area assets properly accounted Audits mitigate loss of state funds; public funds div ; Financial area - banks safety of funds seif funded. Budget reduction Admn div reduce 200 series ; external maintenance agreement; 900 series admin; fees for IT staff ; Div of banking ; Public Statewide single audit; 1:13:18 ~ 1/9/2013 9:09:41 AM ~ Bebout bid for 1:13:35 ~ 1/9/2013 9:09:58 AM ~ Vogel 1:13:45 ~ 1/9/2013 9:10:09 AM ~ Bebout reduction carried forward 1:13:58 ~ 1/9/2013 9:10:21 AM ~ Meier absence of budget cut 1:14:17 ~ 1/9/2013 9:10:40 AM ~ Grenier 1:14:24 ~ 1/9/2013 9:10:47 AM ~ Vogel Mineral audit division buts in 300 series auditor position cut; Excise tax difision p 28 200 series cuts in travel; out of state travel; 5500 series space rental not needed; 900 series 40k for audit cut; 600k cuts ; no impact on audit 1:16:49 ~ 1/9/2013 9:13:12 AM ~ Hastert division of banking ; regulation on pay day lending; reg on rates charged 1:17:29 ~ 1/9/2013 9:13:53 AM ~ vogel one month contracts 20% on balance 1:17:51 ~ 1/9/2013 9:14:14 AM ~ Meier auditor position 1:17:59 ~ 1/9/2013 9:14:23 AM ~ Vogel positon vacant 6 months 1:18:12 ~ 1/9/2013 9:14:35 AM ~ richards 4 areas; p 30 col 3 space rental reduction; contract services line 901; 280k contract; 390k not bienniem 1:19:33 ~ 1/9/2013 9:15:56 AM ~ Bebout ask agencies how to more not than later 1:19:59 ~ 1/9/2013 9:16:23 AM ~ Wallis IT consolidation level of support for agency 1:20:25 ~ 1/9/2013 9:16:49 AM ~ Vogel front end of IT reorg. Worked smoothly; 3rd party provider situation; business plan and model; Helpful to dept of audit; good transition 1:21:54 ~ 1/9/2013 9:18:18 AM ~ Bobout thank you. ready for workforce srvices 1:23:02 ~ 1/9/2013 9:19:25 AM ~ Workforce Servies: 1:23:13 ~ 1/9/2013 9:19:36 AM ~ Evans: Page 13 Reductions accepted by the Governor page 17: training fund, a Gf program to assist businesses, for prehire trainin grants to assit attracting new business to wyoming, 302,000+. The cut was not accepted by the Governor. That was on page 17 moving onto page 18. Page 20: quality child care within the department, A GF for training and awareness of quality care in Wyoming, reduce by 300,000+ , travel, participants fund, 75 scholarships and contractural services, The governor did not accept that recommendation. Page 23: Employement and trainig unit , travel and participant funding. ability to contract with educational providers for GED, career readiness certificates. Recommendation not accpeted by the Governor. page 27: Vocational rehabiltation : most funds come from federal government and are leveraged by state funds. Rely more on video conferencing and limit travel. Governor recommended approval. 1:27:53 ~ 1/9/2013 9:24:16 AM ~ Bebou5: Hastert: I noted that the governor denied your budget reduction requests. Were ther offsetting requirements by the governor's office? How does that work? Were there reductions in other areas or are we good with where we are? 1:28:51 ~ 1/9/2013 9:25:14 AM ~ Evans: We have a small amount of GF. Wy Quality counts program, and workforce training...not speaking for governor's. not reducing infrastructure in the agency. 1:29:30 ~ 1/9/2013 9:25:53 AM ~ Bebout: Nothing to bienialize..so far from the 85. If we said we have to have the 8% what would you do? 1:29:52 ~ 1/9/2013 9:26:16 AM ~ Evans: I would stick with our recommendations. We have had to do it before. 1:30:05 ~ 1/9/2013 9:26:28 AM ~ Bebout: real time examples 1:30:11 ~ 1/9/2013 9:26:34 AM ~ Evans: workforce training employment big tool for employers , publish a yearly report to the legislature on how funds are utilized, feedback from busineses and groups, saying businesses will be very disappointed if there is limited a ccess to those funds. We took a 5% cut under Freudenthal. limited areas to cut GF. The 5% from previous cut was not put back in. 1:31:37 ~ 1/9/2013 9:28:00 AM ~ Bebout: talking about relocating. or people who live in wyoning 1:31:58 ~ 1/9/2013 9:28:21 AM ~ Evans: 23 local work forces around state are federally funded. I am talking about Workforce development training to assit with prehire, incumbant workers to be retrained or aprovide a better employment opportunity within the company. That is a GF program Would not be able to accomplish as much. would reduce the magnitude of the program. 1:33:15 ~ 1/9/2013 9:29:38 AM ~ Bebout: If we go with gov's rec or agency's cuts, what would happen? 1:33:38 ~ 1/9/2013 9:30:01 AM ~ Richards: ... 1:33:46 ~ 1/9/2013 9:30:09 AM ~ Hastert: Opponent of across the board cuts, gov insight to say this will be an issue to the people of wyo that other agencies..across the board is not always the best interest. 1:34:46 ~ 1/9/2013 9:31:09 AM ~ Burkhart: Two departments combined: Talk of economies of scale, down only 1 position. Were economies realized? Had 570, now have 569 1:35:25 ~ 1/9/2013 9:31:48 AM ~ Evans: Director position eliminated. Restructuring was not to eliminate or reduce. Where agency is at, every position is analyzed. Positions changed. Business confusion to register so we determine we ned a POC for businesses..we need to clean up the way the agency functions before we cut positions. I believe we are 50 positions down in the six years since I took over. 1:37:07 ~ 1/9/2013 9:33:31 AM ~ Jones: Would have to look at those numbers 1:37:18 ~ 1/9/2013 9:33:41 AM ~ Evans: We have reduced the infrastructure through a variety of ways, have looked at ways to make it cost effectrive, colocating offices, using one copier instead of five, using motor pool, have to take into consideration of claims costs being up that we do not have control over. ON paper it shows 1 1:38:24 ~ 1/9/2013 9:34:47 AM ~ Burkhart: page 23, reduction in employment training has potential to eliminate 25 people. Are classes full? 1:38:46 ~ 1/9/2013 9:35:09 AM ~ Evans: Those are individuals receiving training, they are not necessarily paid in a lump sum. 1:39:05 ~ 1/9/2013 9:35:29 AM ~ Stubson: Page 17: pre-training grant funds: is this the type of training that is only available through the state? Would there be ttraining available to employers elsewhere? 1:39:59 ~ 1/9/2013 9:36:23 AM ~ Evans: It would reduce an opportunity for the state to partner with employers looking to do business in our state. Education, economic develop0ment, opportunity to support economy. Ex: project in saratoga to get the sawmill going again, needed to revamp . Could employer do it on their own? maybe, maybe not. I believe the legislature was crafted that way originally. 1:41:25 ~ 1/9/2013 9:37:49 AM ~ Stubson: Employer would have to pay for training themselves? 1:41:47 ~ 1/9/2013 9:38:10 AM ~ Evans: Yes 1:41:52 ~ 1/9/2013 9:38:15 AM ~ Stubson: Reimbursement under workmans' comp to providers. update? 1:42:11 ~ 1/9/2013 9:38:35 AM ~ Evans: Prior to reorganization, replacement system for workman's comp. replaced over labor day. data conversion issues, provider payment records lost, working to identify lost information. about 1 month ago, crisis point of back log, unpaid providers, technology issues, climbing out of that providing weekly updates to gov staff. significantly improving payment to providers, if you are hearing from providers, please contact us? 1:43:49 ~ 1/9/2013 9:40:12 AM ~ Stubson: Estimate of bwhen you will be current with providers? 1:44:01 ~ 1/9/2013 9:40:25 AM ~ Evans: info available, do not have it. 1:44:11 ~ 1/9/2013 9:40:34 AM ~ Burkhart: 7 milllion in program assistance, in previous years has any of that money reverted? 1:44:36 ~ 1/9/2013 9:40:59 AM ~ Evans: I can get you the specifics. Five or six years ago we may have. workmans comp administration said Feb 1st for stubson's question. 1:45:21 ~ 1/9/2013 9:41:44 AM ~ Bebout: frustrated with inability to get to 8% because of Govs recommendations, may need a call back. 1:45:42 ~ 1/9/2013 9:42:05 AM ~ PDockstader: what I hear, workforce training, 1quality childcare can still happen with reductions, would not go away. 1:46:08 ~ 1/9/2013 9:42:31 AM ~ Evans: Capacity would be reduced in each program. Programs would not b eliminated . 1:46:32 ~ 1/9/2013 9:42:55 AM ~ Jones: Position reductions since 09/10 hve reduced 31 positions. 1:46:54 ~ 1/9/2013 9:43:18 AM ~ Bebout: do not know why we don't see it relative to Burkharts' question, find out and get back to us. 1:47:12 ~ 1/9/2013 9:43:35 AM ~ 1:47:18 ~ 1/9/2013 9:43:41 AM ~ Stop Recording