File name: JACBudgetHearings2013_20130109_144243.dcr Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\happropriations\Desktop\JAC Audio 2013 0 ~ 1/9/2013 2:56:37 PM ~ Start Recording 5 ~ 1/9/2013 2:56:41 PM ~ Roll call: Excused Burkhart, Hastert. Quorom 31 ~ 1/9/2013 2:57:08 PM ~ Bob Jensen, CEO of Wyoming business council , introduction of members. Have handouts . ..Budget document page 3 details overall budget submission of the business council. relatively small cuts in overall budget, with larger cut in grant program. discussed with governor and joint minieral committee. 2:26 ~ 1/9/2013 2:59:03 PM ~ Bebout: Go through reductions 2:32 ~ 1/9/2013 2:59:08 PM ~ Jensen: 28 million reduces by 143,000 mostly in travel and related things. goes to 27.9 million. Maint street budget, same types of categoeries cut, 1.78 million, bulk in investment ready communities. Community facilites program charged with eehlping communities utilize schools by repurposing them. Examples given. est of 3 million cut from 8+ million to 5+ million. 4:59 ~ 1/9/2013 3:01:35 PM ~ Bebout: number of employees? 5:09 ~ 1/9/2013 3:01:46 PM ~ Jensen: page 4/ There is 50 staff and 5 part-time. 5:28 ~ 1/9/2013 3:02:04 PM ~ Bebout: Biennializing 5:36 ~ 1/9/2013 3:02:12 PM ~ Richards: No issues relative to map. Vast majority of cuts from grant program. funds to cover both programs. Legislature does not appropriate agencies for this agency, given latitude to set that. 6:19 ~ 1/9/2013 3:02:55 PM ~ Bebout: across the board cuts to this program. Is it time to talk about eliminating this program? 6:44 ~ 1/9/2013 3:03:20 PM ~ Jensen: We could ahve it. I would see what happens in the rest of this biennium. We talked about mdoifications to make it more efficient . Not directly tied to infrastructure. It is important on overall economic development. It is not as directly tied to capital investment . That is why we took it out of this. lower on priority list than maintaining investment capacity of business ready program. 8:21 ~ 1/9/2013 3:04:58 PM ~ Bebout: School refurbishment...How much, numbers? Never any provided for the maintenance, stuck with bldg and uses not there. 8:57 ~ 1/9/2013 3:05:33 PM ~ Jensen: Total awarded is just under 37 million. It is almost in every county. Operations and maintenance. Evaluation includes applicants committment and ability to carry forward 9:36 ~ 1/9/2013 3:06:13 PM ~ Bebout: Grant or match? 9:46 ~ 1/9/2013 3:06:22 PM ~ Jensen: 15% match. 9:52 ~ 1/9/2013 3:06:29 PM ~ bebout: Business council does excellent job of what it does. Do not have money we used to have..maybe we do not need it... 11:00 ~ 1/9/2013 3:07:37 PM ~ Jensen: makes sense to take a look at it, at the utilization of the program. Not as same priority level as business investment..It is still important to cnosider that in all aspects of economic development, community development is important as well..felling of pride about communities lived in. I would not suggest defunding. 12:20 ~ 1/9/2013 3:08:57 PM ~ Beboutt: business council importance. 12:48 ~ 1/9/2013 3:09:25 PM ~ Perkins: schools have become community center gathering points... 13:26 ~ 1/9/2013 3:10:02 PM ~ Jensen: time when capital construction of schools was huge. legislatively directed, started in 2006. has done what it was intended to do. 14:22 ~ 1/9/2013 3:10:59 PM ~ Perkings: six years of existence, inventory of potential schools?at some point, program would run course. 14:56 ~ 1/9/2013 3:11:33 PM ~ Jensen: Talk to regional and local officials, we have a pipeline of 12 million projects that could come forward. Some we do not know about. 15:43 ~ 1/9/2013 3:12:19 PM ~ Perkins: Even 15% comes from consensus groups...is that true? substitute, duplication? 16:19 ~ 1/9/2013 3:12:56 PM ~ Jensen: all types of sources, sometimes uses consensus money, but not all. 16:39 ~ 1/9/2013 3:13:15 PM ~ Harshaman: Bring us back info on those projects and the match on those. 16:51 ~ 1/9/2013 3:13:28 PM ~ Meier: What other programs does this tail into, like school facilities. If they have option of remodeling for more money than building new, they may opt for that. In almost every case more expensive to remodel than build new. aggregate demand on the budget. may have some discussions ..school faciity folks dovetail. 18:34 ~ 1/9/2013 3:15:10 PM ~ Dockstader: what is criteria for priortizing the list? 18:51 ~ 1/9/2013 3:15:28 PM ~ Jensen: No promises 18:56 ~ 1/9/2013 3:15:33 PM ~ Dockstader: all could be ready? 19:03 ~ 1/9/2013 3:15:40 PM ~ Jensen: right 19:08 ~ 1/9/2013 3:15:44 PM ~ Wallis: Agencies assigned and you are assigned to me. In every agency you have performanc3 measures, you do not say how you are measuring up to your measures. Resend or send that info to me. 20:00 ~ 1/9/2013 3:16:37 PM ~ Jensen: ok 20:05 ~ 1/9/2013 3:16:42 PM ~ Harshman: We want to know what has been done in past, match, want performance measures. 20:25 ~ 1/9/2013 3:17:02 PM ~ Perkins: What are the projects that you are aware of? 20:42 ~ 1/9/2013 3:17:19 PM ~ Moniz: What is in the pipeline. What does it mean? 21:00 ~ 1/9/2013 3:17:37 PM ~ Jensen: 2 in sweetwater county.....list of projects. given. No telling if any or all will come. Some not on list may show up. 21:45 ~ 1/9/2013 3:18:21 PM ~ burhart: Community facilities program took 30%. Why not take it all out of that one? 22:12 ~ 1/9/2013 3:18:49 PM ~ Jensen: We wanted to look at the entire operation. 22:37 ~ 1/9/2013 3:19:13 PM ~ Harshaman: any vacencies? 22:47 ~ 1/9/2013 3:19:24 PM ~ Jensen: two positions. This 50 includes those two. 23:01 ~ 1/9/2013 3:19:37 PM ~ harshman: If we have to get inot that next round..less projects, less people. Do folks come to you or is the list schools being vacated. 23:32 ~ 1/9/2013 3:20:09 PM ~ Jensen : Conversations at this time, not applications 23:47 ~ 1/9/2013 3:20:23 PM ~ Bebout, vacancy length, # of employee scompared to past. 24:01 ~ 1/9/2013 3:20:37 PM ~ Jensen in past 52-55, now 50 24:16 ~ 1/9/2013 3:20:53 PM ~ Stubson: 5.5 million in community projects left after reduction. Is any of that committed? 24:34 ~ 1/9/2013 3:21:11 PM ~ Jensen: None of it is committed at this time. Of all these projects, they are working with our regional directors. 25:13 ~ 1/9/2013 3:21:50 PM ~ Perkins: Where is it in the process? .. 25:55 ~ 1/9/2013 3:22:31 PM ~ Jensen: We can make that distinction..cut to current biennium basically. Projects under consideration right now of 5+ milion. out of total budget. 26:36 ~ 1/9/2013 3:23:12 PM ~ Harshman: toal 12.5, carryover of 7? 26:47 ~ 1/9/2013 3:23:23 PM ~ Jensen: Total right now is 10.3 of funding. 27:00 ~ 1/9/2013 3:23:36 PM ~ Bebout: 900 series..1.5 million consulting services to small businesses, explaint that? 27:31 ~ 1/9/2013 3:24:07 PM ~ Jensen: series of partners with University, sometimes co-funded with UW or fed govt. The one we use is cofunded with the university. Decide about being in business or expansion of business. 4000 business a year. 28:28 ~ 1/9/2013 3:25:04 PM ~ Bebout: Two year cost, 4.5 million divided by 3. How do you figure ou the cost? 28:49 ~ 1/9/2013 3:25:25 PM ~ Jensen: They submit a budget to us and SBA. On this one SBA and we are roughly 50/50. 29:23 ~ 1/9/2013 3:26:00 PM ~ Bebout: SBA funding side sufficient? 29:36 ~ 1/9/2013 3:26:12 PM ~ Jensen: Do not know. I would be surprised if they were totally zeroed out. Any desire to move forward on the facilites side? no callback, get info to us. Thank you 30:33 ~ 1/9/2013 3:27:09 PM ~ Bebout: project of energy. 31:20 ~ 1/9/2013 3:27:56 PM ~ explanation of new nuclear facility. cost 800 million to 1 billion. employ 400 people. 31:55 ~ 1/9/2013 3:28:32 PM ~ Bebout: exciting project, convesion to u235, shipped to enrichment facilites. 32:22 ~ 1/9/2013 3:28:58 PM ~ Harshman: Nuclear task force. 32:40 ~ 1/9/2013 3:29:17 PM ~ ..Conversion facility, facility enriches it to a gas to a component the utility company needs. Major utiilties are paying for it. 33:35 ~ 1/9/2013 3:30:12 PM ~ Meier: add value to wyoming natural gas. enhance manufacturing in the state. 34:30 ~ 1/9/2013 3:31:07 PM ~ Jensen: hybrid energy system,. conversion of natural gas..fertilizer..liquified natural gas, 35:26 ~ 1/9/2013 3:32:02 PM ~ Bebout: Senator anderson 35:32 ~ 1/9/2013 3:32:08 PM ~ Senator anderson: importance of uranium in converse county. tryuing to market natural gas, foreign markets,...lcouncil has been helpful. Wyoming product 36:39 ~ 1/9/2013 3:33:16 PM ~ Bebout: Sen. anderson on minerals committee. 36:55 ~ 1/9/2013 3:33:31 PM ~ Agency 066 - WTB - Wyoming Tourism Board.. 37:27 ~ 1/9/2013 3:34:03 PM ~ Bebout: Hi Diane 38:02 ~ 1/9/2013 3:34:38 PM ~ Shober: Members of wyoming Tourism Board introduced INtroduction of staff. Budget presentation: impact of budget reductions on marketing. early indications of 2012 will see growth, at least some growth. Tax collections of leisure and hospitality program. Purpose of office to to create advertising campaign. Funded 100% by GF. Have built strong and effective program. 8% = 1.+ mill 4 areas: $552,000. co-op mktg,, 107 partners, 234 partners over 800,000. 1.4mill adv. reach, FAM tours, 14 Fams, 32 journalists, trade shows, signage for turnouts which lead to longer visits and more revenue per visitor. Consumer shows - RV and INtl sportsmans exposition. 10 partnership opps. which include the smaller communities. 44:58 ~ 1/9/2013 3:41:35 PM ~ meir: are you taking the money outof your budget where you have no leverag 45:39 ~ 1/9/2013 3:42:15 PM ~ Shober: co-op programs increases visibility. not completely eliminating the coop program, only reducing it to meet the requirement. This causes the least impact. Partnerships/marketing build itineraries for visitors. 47:24 ~ 1/9/2013 3:44:01 PM ~ Meir: bigger bang for dollar in areas without leverage 47:49 ~ 1/9/2013 3:44:26 PM ~ Shoder: if we had more money we would expand the adv programs. All these progams have a return for us. Priortiize 48:28 ~ 1/9/2013 3:45:05 PM ~ Meir: 48:55 ~ 1/9/2013 3:45:31 PM ~ Dockstader:more? 49:10 ~ 1/9/2013 3:45:46 PM ~ shoder: PUblic relations media program - Team WY, rodeo NFR, 118,000 reduction, 113,000 reduction, 140,000 overall oper ations reduction 50:18 ~ 1/9/2013 3:46:55 PM ~ Dockstader: 24 part time employees, dist. 50:39 ~ 1/9/2013 3:47:16 PM ~ shodere 3 perm. pt, bal are full time employees, in ten years atdded 2 full time staff. 2 years ago leg added 2 FT, 2PT staff to NE visitors ctr. 51:26 ~ 1/9/2013 3:48:02 PM ~ Shoder: to prioritize p. 4 listing. Advertising, research is #1 priority. Succcessful bec. it is suported by other programs. College NFR - advertise, Film office competiions. Can see the results 53:31 ~ 1/9/2013 3:50:07 PM ~ Hastert: Adv. return on investment 54:05 ~ 1/9/2013 3:50:42 PM ~ Shoder: independent analysis tests and monitors, measures, in spring and fall. Measures recall, ROI, 55:04 ~ 1/9/2013 3:51:41 PM ~ Hastert: provide for us? 55:18 ~ 1/9/2013 3:51:55 PM ~ Shoder: TV is the strongest medium, high level of awareness and creates action. Travel magazine inform and moves the consumer 56:18 ~ 1/9/2013 3:52:55 PM ~ HAstert: adv in hunting magazine. 56:40 ~ 1/9/2013 3:53:17 PM ~ Shoder: not hunting due tolimited licenses, Fishing we do adv. Also viewing wildlife 57:15 ~ 1/9/2013 3:53:52 PM ~ Hastert: tourism center we built? 57:31 ~ 1/9/2013 3:54:07 PM ~ Shoder: thankyou for the facility, alot of visitors, winter months seeing high visitation, Good return on investment. 58:23 ~ 1/9/2013 3:54:59 PM ~ Wallis: performance measures, provide results. Cowboy mktg program- affect for high school and college as well as pro-rodeo 59:38 ~ 1/9/2013 3:56:15 PM ~ Shoder: not working with High School and college. Only supported the local CVB to adv. the College and HS national finals. Group of WY men promote. 1:00:58 ~ 1/9/2013 3:57:34 PM ~ Wallis: asked this agency about biannualizing 1:01:16 ~ 1/9/2013 3:57:52 PM ~ Harshman: numbers on out of state visitations from new visitors centers? Plan for old facilities? 1:02:02 ~ 1/9/2013 3:58:39 PM ~ Shober: do track visitation, with clikers. engaging thru social media at visitors centers. Trying to drive visitors to actual sites. Study to followup on visitor experience. Expects huge increase from the new SE WY visitors center due to accessability 1:03:58 ~ 1/9/2013 4:00:35 PM ~ Shobert: DOT still owns the one in Cheyenne. May be turned into Drivers Lic. services 1:04:30 ~ 1/9/2013 4:01:07 PM ~ Harshman: where will the next one be built 1:04:43 ~ 1/9/2013 4:01:20 PM ~ Shobert: Would like it to be on I-80 on NE-WY border. 1:05:26 ~ 1/9/2013 4:02:03 PM ~ Perkins: type of coord. with local visitors bureaus and the use of the local lodging tax 1:06:12 ~ 1/9/2013 4:02:49 PM ~ Shoder: no authority but do communicate with coop programs.... lot of local tax boards getting more efficient with programs 1:07:08 ~ 1/9/2013 4:03:44 PM ~ Meir: 900 series any changes from 2000 1:07:28 ~ 1/9/2013 4:04:05 PM ~ Shoder: it has doubled. Started in 2003 there was no TV or photography. Majority of the programs where the increases come from. Allows WY to now be a major player within the Western region. On an equal playing field 1:08:55 ~ 1/9/2013 4:05:32 PM ~ Perkins: coordination with local lodging..... any obstacles for your office to co-op with local lodging groups. 1:10:03 ~ 1/9/2013 4:06:39 PM ~ Shoder: not that I know of. 1:10:15 ~ 1/9/2013 4:06:51 PM ~ Bruback: 3.5% reduction vs. 8%. 1:10:48 ~ 1/9/2013 4:07:24 PM ~ Shoder: reductions were based on 1 year, 2014 as they were directed 1:11:15 ~ 1/9/2013 4:07:52 PM ~ Bebout: 900 series Please provide info how you solitict Barnhardt Communications contract. 9.44 ROI explanation 1:12:16 ~ 1/9/2013 4:08:52 PM ~ Shoder: that is an analysis of public money to public money 1:12:44 ~ 1/9/2013 4:09:21 PM ~ Bebout: be careful, could be a strech 1:12:58 ~ 1/9/2013 4:09:34 PM ~ Bebout: no need for recall. Great job at the NFR. TEam WY was great. 1:13:35 ~ 1/9/2013 4:10:11 PM ~ 040 GandF Game and Fish Dept 1:15:02 ~ 1/9/2013 4:11:39 PM ~ Talbot: GF budget, 2005 first year for GB funds, Sage grouse, wolf and fish species fund, benefited more than just sportsman and added money from the GF. GF FY 2013 cut by 2.3%, after correction by the Gov./ proposed to cut the vet services program by 184,000. Cut sage grouse planning by 207,000. Gov recommend to cut by 4% in vet services and the .......? sage grouse program. Sensitive species program - no proposed cuts recommended 1:18:41 ~ 1/9/2013 4:15:17 PM ~ Dockstader: 06-10 added 4 major programs. Page 5 lost federal funding... how do you balance your budget? 1:19:26 ~ 1/9/2013 4:16:03 PM ~ Talbott: brucellosis program , worked this out with the Gov. We expect them not to return. Welll turn back to the state for those programs 1:20:12 ~ 1/9/2013 4:16:48 PM ~ Wallis: list performance measures, please provide a one page document to show agency results. Majority of your budget is not reviewed in detail. Give history of why that is 1:21:23 ~ 1/9/2013 4:17:59 PM ~ Talbott 1920s the G&F was controlled by the legislature. In 1930's with Pitman Rogers and Dingell Robbins act started taxing firearms to fund License fees fund ..federal aid, 50% outside grants., 2 million to 9 million inc from grants. Funding model: Legislature turne the funds from licenses to the commission but control the amount of the fees. 1:24:16 ~ 1/9/2013 4:20:52 PM ~ Wallis: Parks and Rec hearing manages ..which is owned by the Game and Fish. 1:24:48 ~ 1/9/2013 4:21:24 PM ~ Talbott: We can get the info to you. Many properties acquired by the Game and Fish Commission. 400,000 acres. Game and Fish is only agency that pays taxes on the land it acquires 1:25:28 ~ 1/9/2013 4:22:04 PM ~ Bebout: productive value of the land not real estate vlaue? 1:25:39 ~ 1/9/2013 4:22:16 PM ~ Talbott: Yes productive value of land 1:25:49 ~ 1/9/2013 4:22:26 PM ~ Wallis: Heavy equipment and what it is used for, how they are handled 1:26:14 ~ 1/9/2013 4:22:50 PM ~ Talbott: can provide that info. 1:26:21 ~ 1/9/2013 4:22:57 PM ~ Wallis: in process of commission, can you describe how much time the commission devotes to the creation of your budget. We do not see the majority of your budget. 1:27:00 ~ 1/9/2013 4:23:37 PM ~ Talvott: preliminary budget for commission in Dec each year, presented in public forum in april of each year. Commission must have budget by July 1. Budget posted on web site. It is available twice for publicv review. Commission provides oversight. Last year took a 3% cut on the commission budget. 1:28:01 ~ 1/9/2013 4:24:38 PM ~ Wallis: 3% budget cut, give history. 1:28:19 ~ 1/9/2013 4:24:55 PM ~ Bebout, it was provided. budget up 65%, things we asked them to do. 1:28:48 ~ 1/9/2013 4:25:24 PM ~ Hastert: Game and fish asking for inc. in license fees causing comments from public. Does it cost G and F for wolf mgt? 1:30:15 ~ 1/9/2013 4:26:51 PM ~ Talbott: first year we have been engaged in the wolf program. 608,000 budgeted. Combined trophy game section, eliminated mid mgt position, consolidated bear mgt. into one section. 600,000 per biennium. Legislature has set forth 125,000 for livestock damage. Will be close to that amount for this year. Monitoring, radio collars, # packs, can do with our budget. most done through aerial work, which is quite expensive. 1:32:18 ~ 1/9/2013 4:28:55 PM ~ Hastert: Justification in increase of licensing fees instate and out of state. You are oversight for GandF. You look into personnel. Someone ran into a biologist who was studying deer flys. I will encourage people to call in and get answers for their questions. Your agency monitors the game and fish, corect? 1:33:26 ~ 1/9/2013 4:30:03 PM ~ Talbott: That is correct. Wardens and biologists do participate. Sign. amount of work with blood worm of moose and brucellois. 1:34:13 ~ 1/9/2013 4:30:49 PM ~ Esquibel: 600 and 900 series. A lot of money going to the UW then I see other colleges. Is the university not able to meet all your needs in terms of lab services? 1:34:54 ~ 1/9/2013 4:31:31 PM ~ Talbott: We do all the work that we can in state. There are technical, specific tasks that we need to go to different tasks. 1:35:25 ~ 1/9/2013 4:32:02 PM ~ Equibel: What does SD state do for you? 1:35:39 ~ 1/9/2013 4:32:16 PM ~ Talbott; We will get back to you. 1:35:51 ~ 1/9/2013 4:32:28 PM ~ harshman: Acquatic invasive species. how much are the stamps bringing in. 1:36:10 ~ 1/9/2013 4:32:46 PM ~ Fowden: 420,ooo up to 480,000 dollars 1:36:46 ~ 1/9/2013 4:33:23 PM ~ Bebout: Where is it in the revenue stream or the expenditures? 1:37:07 ~ 1/9/2013 4:33:44 PM ~ Riachard Reiner: It is in a special account. Info in front of you is expenses only. It is under other revenue for expenditures. 1:37:36 ~ 1/9/2013 4:34:12 PM ~ Bebout: Historicall amount does not show all revenues. 1:37:49 ~ 1/9/2013 4:34:26 PM ~ Bebout: Revenues received, is it in other? 1:38:10 ~ 1/9/2013 4:34:47 PM ~ Reiner: dropped down ..you can get that back to me? Why did it go down so substantially? Gong off chart you sent us. 1:38:51 ~ 1/9/2013 4:35:28 PM ~ Jones: That specific unit will not be reflected in budget document because there were no changes. page 3, it is included in the summary, can't break out the specific number. 1:39:48 ~ 1/9/2013 4:36:25 PM ~ Bebout: .. 1:39:56 ~ 1/9/2013 4:36:32 PM ~ Stubson: GandF recommendation and yoru recommendation. 77,000 reduction in cost. was it reflected in cuts the gov recommended? 1:40:37 ~ 1/9/2013 4:37:13 PM ~ Talbott: 777,000 for testing of elk in test and slaughter program. Believe it is reflected in gov cut. 1:40:57 ~ 1/9/2013 4:37:34 PM ~ Stubson: page 7 summary of reductions, where would that 77,000 be reflected? 1:41:16 ~ 1/9/2013 4:37:53 PM ~ Talbott: I do not know. We cut brucullosis funds, Gov recommended cut in supplies...have changed focus to outer boundary of feed ground. 1:41:59 ~ 1/9/2013 4:38:35 PM ~ Nicholas: Reduction in sage grouse planning and protection. Gand F cut different than gov's. What are you using the funds for? Any impact on status of lititgation? 1:42:40 ~ 1/9/2013 4:39:17 PM ~ Talbott: Sage grouse working groups = 8 in the state. Habitat projects, research projects. Behind on projects. about 3/4 milion encumbered. 8% recommended so we could spend some of those encumbered dollars. Gov office understood, asked us to keep foundation. 1:43:52 ~ 1/9/2013 4:40:29 PM ~ Bebout: Perbsive thing is young people not hunting as much. How do we get young people interested? 1:45:22 ~ 1/9/2013 4:41:58 PM ~ Talbott: we are looking at that. Sign time and effort in recruiting young hunters. We have recommended no changes for youth licenses. Special licenses set aside. Sruvey indicates new hunters have inc. by 9% and fisherman by 11%. first possitive indicator we have seen in many years. Those figures do not apply directly to Wyoming. 1:46:58 ~ 1/9/2013 4:43:35 PM ~ Hastert: Grizzly bears: issues 1:47:39 ~ 1/9/2013 4:44:16 PM ~ Talbott: Gand F active in grizzly bear mgt. moitoring and conflict activities. Have increased. Grizzly bear distribution has expanded beyond areas Lawsuit filed when grizzlies delisted. white bark pine assessment. A delisting petition will be published not later than oct 2014. hopefully they will stick to it. 1:49:36 ~ 1/9/2013 4:46:13 PM ~ Bebout: did it with wolves, grizzlies, now sage grouse. The number goes up. Bear population twice the level wanted..we get sucked into it. Dictated by out of state. We need to hold them to what they ask instead of a moving target. If there is things we can do, I am in on it. 1:51:01 ~ 1/9/2013 4:47:37 PM ~ Talbott: working with them to delist grizzly bears. They are at a level that they should be managed by the state. 1:51:24 ~ 1/9/2013 4:48:01 PM ~ Hastert: silencers and hunting. 1:51:33 ~ 1/9/2013 4:48:10 PM ~ Bebout: appropriations, everything is on the table.. 1:51:44 ~ 1/9/2013 4:48:21 PM ~ Talbott: Two sides of the issue. 1:51:58 ~ 1/9/2013 4:48:35 PM ~ Bebout: leave it there? 1:52:06 ~ 1/9/2013 4:48:42 PM ~ Richards: pg 11 on gov's rec, reduces AWAC by one, not carried through on page 6. minor technical corrections. 1:52:32 ~ 1/9/2013 4:49:08 PM ~ Bebout: concur 1:52:36 ~ 1/9/2013 4:49:13 PM ~ Talbott: cyes Richardson: page 11, gov rec, reduce awac position for 11 months, did not carry through to col 6. The sero should be a negative one. 1:53:19 ~ 1/9/2013 4:49:56 PM ~ 1:53:48 ~ 1/9/2013 4:50:24 PM ~ Bebout: Things to go over before tomorrow. 1:53:57 ~ 1/9/2013 4:50:34 PM ~ Harshman: meet with co-chairs for a few minutes. 1:54:10 ~ 1/9/2013 4:50:47 PM ~ Jones: 8 govs letters delivered, would you like to review those? Handout about biennialization, HO 140. govs recs. 1:55:22 ~ 1/9/2013 4:51:59 PM ~ Meier: could you put gov's letters on 3 hole letter? Salary staff of judges, number 165 down to 255. .. 1:56:09 ~ 1/9/2013 4:52:46 PM ~ Jones: 655 was the request submitted last year as part of biennial budget. can talk about numbers in govs letter. 1:56:43 ~ 1/9/2013 4:53:19 PM ~ Bebout: salary inc..judicial branch was to be included. constitutional amendment. Did it go to the executive branch or did it revert back? 1:57:17 ~ 1/9/2013 4:53:54 PM ~ Jones: Veto net effect was for the dollars to go to he executive branch. evaluating..91% of market. had to show need of dollars before distribution. did our own evaluation. 7.8 million. Did not distribute all of those dollars, to my knowledge have not reverted, can provide B-11 which shows that. There aer several million dollars left residing in unused. 1:59:02 ~ 1/9/2013 4:55:39 PM ~ Bebout: Legislature was to go to judicial branch. veto was appropriate, money on the table. may be able to clean it up...money already approriated. 1:59:41 ~ 1/9/2013 4:56:18 PM ~ Jones: What allowed appropraition to remain was the rate holiday in 11/12. Rate money was residing out in the agencies. knew they still had spending authority. can get specifics for that . 2:00:22 ~ 1/9/2013 4:56:58 PM ~ Bebout: Committee needs to think about moving it back to the courts. Review govs letters and if Chairman Harshman wants to review them tomorrow. 2:00:55 ~ 1/9/2013 4:57:31 PM ~ jones: Can we go through handout, spreadsheet. 2:01:16 ~ 1/9/2013 4:57:53 PM ~ Bebout: Look at it, want to know how much of budget reductions are not biennialized and the impact. If this helps then Don can review. 2:02:02 ~ 1/9/2013 4:58:38 PM ~ Jones: disconnect between us and LSO.. shared his perspective on a similar chart. 2:02:32 ~ 1/9/2013 4:59:09 PM ~ Harshman: House is coming in at 11, senate at 10. will work in time to discuss these 2:03:04 ~ 1/9/2013 4:59:41 PM ~ Bebout: Calendar states starting at 8:00. 2:03:27 ~ 1/9/2013 5:00:03 PM ~ 2:03:31 ~ 1/9/2013 5:00:08 PM ~ Stop Recording