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      0 ~ 1/15/2013 3:03:16 PM ~ Start Recording
      3 ~ 1/15/2013 3:03:18 PM ~ PM July 15, 2013 - Roll call
   1:30 ~ 1/15/2013 3:04:46 PM ~ Deborah Buamer, Director: Explanation of agency,
   1:47 ~ 1/15/2013 3:05:02 PM ~ Baumer: Funded in split. DOT and workforce services.  Statutorily required to hear all cases from those two agencies.  1200 DUI last year.  Hear all state agency cases .  staff.  findings of facts and conclusions of law... 20 to 70 pages for the opinions.
   3:30 ~ 1/15/2013 3:06:46 PM ~ Baumer:  HO 176.  cases.  case load has reduced because of blood alcohol being  level required.
   4:55 ~ 1/15/2013 3:08:11 PM ~ Bebout:
   5:05 ~ 1/15/2013 3:08:21 PM ~ Hastert:  Number of hearing officers the same over the years . backlog s,
   5:36 ~ 1/15/2013 3:08:52 PM ~ Baumer:  Not much of a backlog, no case for longer than one year on docet is policy.  DUI case is 120 days.  By statute we have 45 days for contested DUI cases.  Have filled extra position bsed on what should come to us through Teacher Affordability act.  Other agencies are now using the office.  I eliminated one contract hearing examiner.  Budgeted for that contract position.  Money not spend is returned to dept of transportation or work force services.
   7:24 ~ 1/15/2013 3:10:40 PM ~ Haster:  log or statistic?
   7:55 ~ 1/15/2013 3:11:11 PM ~ Baumer: no
   7:59 ~ 1/15/2013 3:11:15 PM ~ Nicholas:  Who is part time person let go?
   8:16 ~ 1/15/2013 3:11:32 PM ~ Baumer: Rick lavey became a district court judge.
   8:35 ~ 1/15/2013 3:11:51 PM ~ Harshman:  ...
   8:54 ~ 1/15/2013 3:12:10 PM ~ Water Development Commission Harry labonde and Andrea O'Dell
   9:36 ~ 1/15/2013 3:12:52 PM ~ LaBonde: Supplemental budget request.  9216 dollards between series.  requested grant appropriation. for Gillete Madision water project.  Gillete and Campbel county approved tax so providing local share.  Funds no longer needed.  30 million.  Anticipated cash flow schedule..  uniform cash flow drawdown used in cash flow schedule.  Items 1 - 24 represent planned bids, under GMP.  Item 25, shaded area 1-9 contractrs that have been let and are under contract. City of Gillete needs full amount of appropriated before awarding contracts.
  14:32 ~ 1/15/2013 3:17:48 PM ~ Bebout: expklanation of handout.
  14:38 ~ 1/15/2013 3:17:54 PM ~ LaBonde:  session date, grant amount, sources of money.  134 million. 40 million work under contact in 12.  $ in 13.  fy 14 plan contract awards 17+ million.  total plan contract awards = 151 million. Contingency item moved up. Total financial needs = 161 million through fiscal 14.  Balance needed to take Gillete through BGY 14.  ....14 million match from gillette.  33% loans by sponsor...179 million availabe through BFY 14
  18:25 ~ 1/15/2013 3:21:41 PM ~ Meier: expenditures for contracts..work beginning before next year.
  18:49 ~ 1/15/2013 3:22:05 PM ~ LaBonde: go back to cash flow page 1.  Items 10-15 contract awards in FY13.
  19:51 ~ 1/15/2013 3:23:07 PM ~ Bebout: 1-9 show est. contract amount, that money spent.  8.8 million two wells, what is the depth?
  20:32 ~ 1/15/2013 3:23:48 PM ~ LaBonde:  don't have specific dollars in terms of contract amounts, will provide.  Wells were bid.  9.5 million for two wells.  3000 feet deep.  36" casing size.  First well 1400 gallons per minute.  good source of wter, expensive
  21:40 ~ 1/15/2013 3:24:56 PM ~ bebout:
  22:43 ~ 1/15/2013 3:25:59 PM ~ harshman
  22:46 ~ 1/15/2013 3:26:02 PM ~ Labonde, ..
  23:28 ~ 1/15/2013 3:26:44 PM ~ harshman: if appropriated will you spend it or will it just sit?
  23:41 ~ 1/15/2013 3:26:57 PM ~ LaBonde: projects 22-24 dollars would flow to.  Well piping, transmission line. will struggle to accelerate the spending.
  24:25 ~ 1/15/2013 3:27:41 PM ~ harshman:  2/3 state money. reversions.
  24:34 ~ 1/15/2013 3:27:50 PM ~ Labonede: 10 million 33% local 67% grant.
  24:48 ~ 1/15/2013 3:28:03 PM ~ harshman: let us know how fund is holding out over next couple years.
  25:00 ~ 1/15/2013 3:28:16 PM ~ Meier:  Over run, match money clawback provisions, under budget projects.
  25:35 ~ 1/15/2013 3:28:51 PM ~ LaBonde:  our obligation is 67% for grant.  Using loans would reimburse 33% loan share.  Our obligation is and will be 67% of cost incurred.
  26:53 ~ 1/15/2013 3:30:09 PM ~ Bebout: Gillete Madison money spent in 900 series:  show where it is or provide later.
  27:37 ~ 1/15/2013 3:30:53 PM ~ Perkins: experience with change orders.
  28:03 ~ 1/15/2013 3:31:19 PM ~ LaBonde: change in drilling two wells, lost tool string, compensation for change order of roughly 1 million for fracture.  The second well, the drilling has gone much better so not sign change orders.
  29:13 ~ 1/15/2013 3:32:29 PM ~ Perkins:  What as the basis for reimbursing them for the 1 million?
  29:29 ~ 1/15/2013 3:32:44 PM ~ labonde:  geological conditions
  29:37 ~ 1/15/2013 3:32:53 PM ~ Perkins: did we make representations for condition as they went down.
  29:50 ~ 1/15/2013 3:33:06 PM ~ Labonde: Like to drill in fractured zones.  attempts to drill where he was directed, severe geological conditions, He took hit on losing tools.
  30:48 ~ 1/15/2013 3:34:04 PM ~ Perkins: general construction control who is it?
  30:57 ~ 1/15/2013 3:34:13 PM ~ LaBonde:  explanattion
  31:20 ~ 1/15/2013 3:34:36 PM ~ Perkins: value engineering.. confident of value received.
  31:56 ~ 1/15/2013 3:35:12 PM ~ laBonde: no true value of engineering done. oversight through burns and mack, pipeline work is pretty straightforward.
  32:32 ~ 1/15/2013 3:35:48 PM ~ perkins:  What is your confidence level of value for money?
  32:46 ~ 1/15/2013 3:36:02 PM ~ LaBonde:  We are getting the value out of this project.  Consultant has national reputation. Individual retained by Gillete for contract admin has experience in Sheridan
  33:33 ~ 1/15/2013 3:36:49 PM ~ Perkin:  enough independence with engineers and contractors.
  33:49 ~ 1/15/2013 3:37:04 PM ~ LaBonde: yes...Experienced staff.
  34:12 ~ 1/15/2013 3:37:28 PM ~ Bebout:  Lost circulation on contractor..
  34:30 ~ 1/15/2013 3:37:46 PM ~ LaBonde:  will provide more details about claim received by contractor.
  34:47 ~ 1/15/2013 3:38:03 PM ~ Bebout:  if wording was different, why?  unusual to award that amount of change order.
  35:13 ~ 1/15/2013 3:38:29 PM ~ perkins: change order, what is next size?
  35:22 ~ 1/15/2013 3:38:38 PM ~ LaBonde:  minor beyond that one, will provide a listing of change orders in contracts.
  35:59 ~ 1/15/2013 3:39:15 PM ~ Bebout 125 million, projects, any surprises?
  36:17 ~ 1/15/2013 3:39:33 PM ~ LaBonde: moving two resevoirs projects forward ; have received protests on both of those.
  37:04 ~ 1/15/2013 3:40:19 PM ~ Wallis: nature of protests?
  37:13 ~ 1/15/2013 3:40:29 PM ~ LaBonde:  water rights upstream, preriver condition, junior water right downstream.  other protest for cotton lake resevoir.  impounding a depth of 7 feet of water.  exposed shoreline, individuals wanted a natural setting.
  38:33 ~ 1/15/2013 3:41:48 PM ~ Bebout:  irrigation district.  repair and maintain.  are irrigation districts coming forward for repair and mainteance, bcklog?
  39:04 ~ 1/15/2013 3:42:19 PM ~ LaBonde: 6 or 7 districts moving forward.  come out of wter development 2. concerned about level of funding there.  left with 2.9 million at the end of this bieennnium.
  39:43 ~ 1/15/2013 3:42:58 PM ~ Bebout: funded by sev. tax, revenues?
  39:52 ~ 1/15/2013 3:43:08 PM ~ laBonde: our revs are capped so seeing full amount.
  40:04 ~ 1/15/2013 3:43:19 PM ~ Tyrrell Introduced staff. questioned committee's preference . Page 3 line items; total number 1.1 million to get to budget cut. In-state travel budget; out-of-state travel, supplies, USGS coop studies; gauge discontinued;  Ground water division amount reduced 85k. Data network data; USGS review; data stays inhouse; Surface water division
  45:42 ~ 1/15/2013 3:48:58 PM ~ Stubson  what is the change
  46:08 ~ 1/15/2013 3:49:24 PM ~ Tyrrell work needed due to laramie co water agreements. Tracking water usage; Issue short term permits; Surface water division position eliminated with 20k in professional fees; in-stream flow studies; Board of control division - 7700 red in professional fees; eliminate position 125; Division 2  changing nature of position to seasonal; don't need a vehicle also;  75k reduction moving 5 seasnonal positions 9 months to 6 months. 100k reduction in stream gauge supplies; software package same as USGS package; keeping budget to maintain;
  51:41 ~ 1/15/2013 3:54:57 PM ~ Perkins additional stream gauges
  51:58 ~ 1/15/2013 3:55:14 PM ~ Tyrrell capital cost; parts on the shelf; budget cut. Damage to equipment may need additional money.
  52:54 ~ 1/15/2013 3:56:10 PM ~ Perkins maintain gauges you have
  53:06 ~ 1/15/2013 3:56:22 PM ~ Tyrrell  don"t know how many floods we will have; Professional fees - software has some maintenace; support to software valuable. left with 100k; IT support - ongoing maintenance; custom water permitting system; Need to maintain equipment; Allowed to maintain a core staff to maintain software; large bed scanners; GIS type software, maintenance; Interstate stream services division; out of state compacts; 135k reduction. Supplies - north platte approps; 1.1 million in cuts. equally affect entire division; ranked cuts on right side;
  58:23 ~ 1/15/2013 4:01:39 PM ~ Bebout  what type of people and costs
  58:53 ~ 1/15/2013 4:02:09 PM ~ Tyrrell no end date in decree;  absorb work in lost position; North Platte funds;
  59:57 ~ 1/15/2013 4:03:13 PM ~ Bebout people monitorting based on decree
1:00:15 ~ 1/15/2013 4:03:31 PM ~ Tyrrell people on ground monitoring, daily accounting;
1:00:39 ~ 1/15/2013 4:03:55 PM ~ Dockstader
1:00:48 ~ 1/15/2013 4:04:03 PM ~ Tyrrell minimum impact
1:01:08 ~ 1/15/2013 4:04:24 PM ~ Bebout  8 percent in 15-16. hard look. Thank you . protect our Wyoming water. Welcome Board of equalization
1:02:23 ~ 1/15/2013 4:05:39 PM ~ Olmstead introduced staff. Budget book and printout of reductions; Page 3 position vacated in June not filled; could get 8 percent but could not sustain it; eliminated position of -- filled position below market and reduced benefits; sustainable; going from a 8 person agency to a 6 person agency; 900 series. Summer intirm helped;
1:06:16 ~ 1/15/2013 4:09:32 PM ~ Bebout thank you. any questions/
1:06:38 ~ 1/15/2013 4:09:54 PM ~ Dcokstader
1:06:49 ~ 1/15/2013 4:10:05 PM ~ Richards two issues identified; eliminating one position not shown in charts; FTE reduced by one; transfer of savings not shown;
1:07:44 ~ 1/15/2013 4:11:00 PM ~ Olmstead
1:08:01 ~ 1/15/2013 4:11:16 PM ~ Jones; additional reduction reflects reduction in column 6 associated with elimination of position; excess funding with another position;
1:09:24 ~ 1/15/2013 4:12:40 PM ~ Bebout would you agree
1:09:35 ~ 1/15/2013 4:12:51 PM ~ Richards don't know where to put the money
1:09:47 ~ 1/15/2013 4:13:03 PM ~ Bebout  how much work are you doing
1:10:06 ~ 1/15/2013 4:13:22 PM ~ Olmstead  in June at high point
1:10:28 ~ 1/15/2013 4:13:44 PM ~ Bebout mineral audits
1:10:42 ~ 1/15/2013 4:13:58 PM ~ Bebout thank you. Department of Family services - last one Steve welcome
1:11:58 ~ 1/15/2013 4:15:14 PM ~ Corsi thank you mr chairmanl; introduced staff; highlights since last meeting; consolidated portective  services ; Second highlight; trained 100 percent of staff; restructured ; analyzed case ; use of case loads; move position to case loads higher; child ; currently in 3 nationally; Introduced Dr. Marty Nelson; youth and kids needs being met; quality of care; levels of care; providing training for case workers; Governor's commitment letter; reduced policies and rules; propose emiminate 22 positions; critical backup; Page 9 governor's recommendation; 7 percent reduction;
1:18:51 ~ 1/15/2013 4:22:07 PM ~ Bebout cross the board cuts of
1:19:08 ~ 1/15/2013 4:22:24 PM ~ Yaksic funds did not come back; money
1:19:39 ~ 1/15/2013 4:22:55 PM ~ Bebout additioanl reduction; do a one pager
1:20:01 ~ 1/15/2013 4:23:17 PM ~ Corsi
1:20:10 ~ 1/15/2013 4:23:26 PM ~ Bebout reduction of personnel
1:20:26 ~ 1/15/2013 4:23:42 PM ~ Corsi page 13 protective services division reductions; Gov suggest retrain one position; Top heavy agency;  admin position
1:22:09 ~ 1/15/2013 4:25:25 PM ~ Bebut 314 what is that
1:22:18 ~ 1/15/2013 4:25:34 PM ~ Corsi eliminated additional layer of management; general fund column ; page 14 addresses enterprise services ETS transfers; Governor recommends and we concur; first dept to make full ETS transfers;
1:24:12 ~ 1/15/2013 4:27:27 PM ~ Bebout questions on ETS
1:24:22 ~ 1/15/2013 4:27:38 PM ~ Corsi page 16 reduction  sharing with tribes. proposing 7 percent with tribes; ETS consolidation; eliminated contractors. Page 18 page 21 reduction of 2.5 million. Gov recommended additioanl reduction; eliminate 200k; 1.4 million sub to county; 3percent in court ordered placement costs; boys school position reduced; page 27 girl's school two positions; contract with northern wyoming health;
1:28:52 ~ 1/15/2013 4:32:07 PM ~ Harshman; what is the population of girl's school
1:29:08 ~ 1/15/2013 4:32:24 PM ~ corsi  Boys school 79 students Girls 39 students as of yesterday. placements declining;
1:29:59 ~ 1/15/2013 4:33:15 PM ~ Harshman  how many employees at girls school
1:30:16 ~ 1/15/2013 4:33:32 PM ~ corsi  80 employees ; 24 hour facilities; hard dicisions to make;
1:31:02 ~ 1/15/2013 4:34:17 PM ~ Yaksic one dorm
1:31:21 ~ 1/15/2013 4:34:36 PM ~ Corsi  page 31 reduce one position;
1:31:55 ~ 1/15/2013 4:35:11 PM ~ Bebout how are you doing with turnover
1:32:09 ~ 1/15/2013 4:35:25 PM ~ Corsi don't have exact numbers; change in adminsitration little increase; 12 percent;
1:32:59 ~ 1/15/2013 4:36:15 PM ~ Bebut 8-12 persent manageable
1:33:15 ~ 1/15/2013 4:36:31 PM ~ Corsi  under 10 percent is social services division;
1:33:42 ~ 1/15/2013 4:36:58 PM ~ Perkins  field service folks near retirement; potential problem
1:34:17 ~ 1/15/2013 4:37:33 PM ~ Corsi agree; number of issues with workforce; significant number retiring; Page 36 economic assistance  4 positions proposed. Gov asked to pull two back; establish a hot line; enhance customer service;
1:36:10 ~ 1/15/2013 4:39:26 PM ~ Meier 78 million am I doing the math right;
1:36:56 ~ 1/15/2013 4:40:11 PM ~ Corsi start with 76, add back
1:37:16 ~ 1/15/2013 4:40:31 PM ~ Meier statute to increase payments with rate of inflaton
1:37:47 ~ 1/15/2013 4:41:02 PM ~ Yaksic cost of living increase; days of 6000 clients;
1:38:31 ~ 1/15/2013 4:41:47 PM ~ Meier  will sit down with yoju
1:39:35 ~ 1/15/2013 4:42:50 PM ~ Harshman escalators?
1:39:48 ~ 1/15/2013 4:43:04 PM ~ Yaksic session law maintains rainy day account; minor adjustment;
1:40:36 ~ 1/15/2013 4:43:52 PM ~ Bebout footnote in 2002 budget
1:40:50 ~ 1/15/2013 4:44:06 PM ~ Yaksic session law hold on to reserve; went from 6000; spend state funds first, feds reinburse; 1.5 million; maintained reserve;
1:42:41 ~ 1/15/2013 4:45:57 PM ~ Bebout saying its federal funds
1:42:53 ~ 1/15/2013 4:46:09 PM ~ Yaksic on books as a
1:43:08 ~ 1/15/2013 4:46:24 PM ~ Corsi 18.5 million block grant; Page 41 unit 616 food stamps. eliminate one position; page 45 modernization study. Page 46
1:45:03 ~ 1/15/2013 4:48:19 PM ~ Harshman back to page 43-switch from 50-50 to all general funds
1:45:30 ~ 1/15/2013 4:48:46 PM ~ Corsi; yes
1:45:45 ~ 1/15/2013 4:49:01 PM ~ Harshman net cost to state
1:45:53 ~ 1/15/2013 4:49:09 PM ~ Yaksic not really. some positons; federal funding
1:46:47 ~ 1/15/2013 4:50:02 PM ~ corsi page 48 eliminate senior position vacant number of months; absorb duties; ETS consolidation eliminate IT contractors; Page 55 early childhood development;
1:48:44 ~ 1/15/2013 4:52:00 PM ~ Dockstader at what point do you shift funds
1:49:03 ~ 1/15/2013 4:52:18 PM ~ Corsi reference mr Yaksic. Net of 22 positions 46 positions with ETS positions
1:50:04 ~ 1/15/2013 4:53:19 PM ~ Yaksic positions eliminated; federal funds
1:50:25 ~ 1/15/2013 4:53:41 PM ~ Dockstader
1:50:42 ~ 1/15/2013 4:53:58 PM ~ Yaksic tana funda are grant funds; SNAP funding; loss of federal funds
1:51:33 ~ 1/15/2013 4:54:49 PM ~ Dockstader
1:51:42 ~ 1/15/2013 4:54:58 PM ~ Corsi first highlight consolidation; eliminated one administrator position; districts did not align with judical districts; now aligned with judicial districts;
1:53:35 ~ 1/15/2013 4:56:51 PM ~ Dockstader better communications; impressive with 46 positions eliminated
1:54:05 ~ 1/15/2013 4:57:21 PM ~ Esquibel one pager showing -- congratulations on one of best run agencies in state; funds exempt;
1:55:08 ~ 1/15/2013 4:58:24 PM ~ Corsi thank you representative esquibel; dedicated group of family services workers; best leadership group in state;
1:56:26 ~ 1/15/2013 4:59:41 PM ~ Bebout; any other questions; able to save on rental space
1:56:53 ~ 1/15/2013 5:00:09 PM ~ Meier  medicade
1:57:33 ~ 1/15/2013 5:00:49 PM ~ Corsi eliminate commercial space  230k lease rental. shifting medicade resposibility; restructuring; Child care providers;
1:59:32 ~ 1/15/2013 5:02:48 PM ~ Meier realignment of personnel?
1:59:55 ~ 1/15/2013 5:03:11 PM ~ Corsi todate moved 12 positions; more modern system;
2:00:32 ~ 1/15/2013 5:03:48 PM ~ Perkins can talk more --- Casper DFS
2:01:06 ~ 1/15/2013 5:04:22 PM ~ Corsi for medicade that is correct; 6000 to 6500 cases;
2:01:49 ~ 1/15/2013 5:05:05 PM ~ Perkins  expansion of medicade effects
2:02:11 ~ 1/15/2013 5:05:27 PM ~ Corsi not seen any effects
2:02:28 ~ 1/15/2013 5:05:44 PM ~ Perkins medicade compliance
2:02:47 ~ 1/15/2013 5:06:03 PM ~ Corsi not aware
2:02:59 ~ 1/15/2013 5:06:14 PM ~ Dcokstader took it from a non-profit organization
2:03:31 ~ 1/15/2013 5:06:47 PM ~ Corsi
2:03:49 ~ 1/15/2013 5:07:05 PM ~ Bebout  thank you. Thursday, call backs --last day. Governor's letter
2:04:34 ~ 1/15/2013 5:07:49 PM ~ Harshman tomorrow's schedule; go over Governor's letter; Other call backs?
2:05:38 ~ 1/15/2013 5:08:54 PM ~ Nicholas sit down and go over markup
2:05:56 ~ 1/15/2013 5:09:12 PM ~ Bebout go over dummy bill.
2:06:18 ~ 1/15/2013 5:09:34 PM ~ Richards
2:06:35 ~ 1/15/2013 5:09:51 PM ~ Bebout markup Thursday and Friday; work through it.
2:06:59 ~ 1/15/2013 5:10:15 PM ~ Perkins callback for dept of health;
2:07:13 ~ 1/15/2013 5:10:29 PM ~ Harshman medicare expansion
2:07:29 ~ 1/15/2013 5:10:45 PM ~ Richards budget reductions
2:07:48 ~ 1/15/2013 5:11:04 PM ~ Bebout questions on CREG
2:08:03 ~ 1/15/2013 5:11:19 PM ~ Wallis 50 cent a ton increase on coal;
2:08:28 ~ 1/15/2013 5:11:44 PM ~ Richards production dropped odd about 10 percent. contract price not dropped off. Natural gas differential;
2:09:43 ~ 1/15/2013 5:12:59 PM ~ Bebout Senate appropriations committee tomorrow 30 min after adjourn for lunch in S-13.. Adjourned.
2:10:49 ~ 1/15/2013 5:14:05 PM ~ Stop Recording
2:10:49 ~ 1/15/2013 5:14:05 PM ~