File name: JACBudgetHearings2013_20130118_075245.dcr Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\happropriations\My Documents\JAC Audio 2013 0 ~ 1/18/2013 8:48:03 AM ~ Harshman motion 0 ~ 1/18/2013 8:48:03 AM ~ Start Recording 5 ~ 1/18/2013 8:48:09 AM ~ Harshmen roll call 15 ~ 1/18/2013 8:48:18 AM ~ Richards 27 ~ 1/18/2013 8:48:30 AM ~ Motion, seconded, 9054 adopted 59 ~ 1/18/2013 8:49:02 AM ~ Richard it will be 906 Harshman close agency motion adpted 1:31 ~ 1/18/2013 8:49:35 AM ~ Agency 85 0101 any amendments 2:24 ~ 1/18/2013 8:50:28 AM ~ Meier only took out 2:35 ~ 1/18/2013 8:50:38 AM ~ Burkhart code 0251 600k for rental; 3:20 ~ 1/18/2013 8:51:23 AM ~ Harshman motion gov rec. adopted 1201 motion gov rec. adopted 1203 motion gov rec. adopted 4:07 ~ 1/18/2013 8:52:11 AM ~ Stubson increase cut to 4 million. motion, seconded, 5:24 ~ 1/18/2013 8:53:27 AM ~ Harshman 5:31 ~ 1/18/2013 8:53:34 AM ~ Meier understand. like to leave as a placeholder. good idea to leave some money for the business council; keeps the funding in the business 6:49 ~ 1/18/2013 8:54:53 AM ~ Bebout support the amendment. several projects in pipeline, nothing ready; 7:29 ~ 1/18/2013 8:55:33 AM ~ Harshman 7:37 ~ 1/18/2013 8:55:41 AM ~ Stubson increase cu 7:45 ~ 1/18/2013 8:55:48 AM ~ Harshman motion adopted 7:55 ~ 1/18/2013 8:55:59 AM ~ Bebout footnote . motion seconded, adopted motion gov rec. adopted agency 151 motion gov rec. adopted motion to close agecny 151 adopted agency 157 motion gov rec. adopted motion to close agency 157 adopted agcney 160 0101 motion gov rec. adopted motion to close agency 160 adopted agency 167 0101 motion gov rec. adopted 13:16 ~ 1/18/2013 9:01:19 AM ~ Bebout 13:27 ~ 1/18/2013 9:01:30 AM ~ Harshman 0102 13:45 ~ 1/18/2013 9:01:48 AM ~ Richards 14:02 ~ 1/18/2013 9:02:06 AM ~ Harshman motion seconded adopted motion gov rec as amended adopted Page 19 WAMI 14:51 ~ 1/18/2013 9:02:54 AM ~ Bebout back to 0102 question: Gov put money back. employee paid benefits 15:35 ~ 1/18/2013 9:03:38 AM ~ Jones no reductions for casper residency center 15:56 ~ 1/18/2013 9:04:00 AM ~ Bebout supplemental request 16:09 ~ 1/18/2013 9:04:12 AM ~ Harshman technical correction 0201 WAMI motion gov rec. adopted 0301 motion gov rec. adopted 0401 motion gov rec. adopted motion to close 167 adopted agency 205 0408 motion gov rec. adopted 4702 motion gov rec. adopted motion to close agency 205 adopted agency 211 motion to close agency 211 agency 220 0101 motion gov rec. adopted motion close agency 220 adopted 20:05 ~ 1/18/2013 9:08:09 AM ~ Richards it would be a global amendment. includes 3 20:31 ~ 1/18/2013 9:08:34 AM ~ Harshman motion would include ETS 21:00 ~ 1/18/2013 9:09:03 AM ~ Wallis 3 contested positions 21:11 ~ 1/18/2013 9:09:14 AM ~ Harshman will be moved to ETS 21:26 ~ 1/18/2013 9:09:29 AM ~ Bebout 21:30 ~ 1/18/2013 9:09:33 AM ~ Nicholas moved, seconded 21:41 ~ 1/18/2013 9:09:44 AM ~ Bebout motion would include 22:04 ~ 1/18/2013 9:10:07 AM ~ Bebut 22:18 ~ 1/18/2013 9:10:22 AM ~ Nicholas 22:27 ~ 1/18/2013 9:10:30 AM ~ Richards three positions in dept of education 23:02 ~ 1/18/2013 9:11:05 AM ~ Harshman amendment includes 3 positions motion adopted timeout 23:31 ~ 1/18/2013 9:11:34 AM ~ Esquibel can we open 220 23:53 ~ 1/18/2013 9:11:57 AM ~ Harshman 24:02 ~ 1/18/2013 9:12:05 AM ~ Esquibel smaller agencies reductions 4 percent cuts 24:31 ~ 1/18/2013 9:12:34 AM ~ Harshman motion to reduce cut.0101 page 10. second, 25:13 ~ 1/18/2013 9:13:17 AM ~ Esquibel start making 8 percent cuts in smaller agencies; can still take a 4 percent cut 25:59 ~ 1/18/2013 9:14:02 AM ~ Meier looking next year whether they should be left out. 3 people; hard to survive; 26:45 ~ 1/18/2013 9:14:48 AM ~ Wallis sensitive to argument; greatly deminished activity in coal bed methane 27:27 ~ 1/18/2013 9:15:31 AM ~ Burkhart testified 27:43 ~ 1/18/2013 9:15:46 AM ~ Esquibel 27:50 ~ 1/18/2013 9:15:53 AM ~ Harshman motion failed 28:04 ~ 1/18/2013 9:16:08 AM ~ motion to close agency 220 adopted 28:29 ~ 1/18/2013 9:16:33 AM ~ Agular would be agency 50 28:49 ~ 1/18/2013 9:16:52 AM ~ Harshman other issues 29:02 ~ 1/18/2013 9:17:05 AM ~ Richard cap con or courts 29:21 ~ 1/18/2013 9:17:24 AM ~ Meier have we received the hay study market adjustment; 29:50 ~ 1/18/2013 9:17:54 AM ~ Richards they did respond. number around 600k; 30:38 ~ 1/18/2013 9:18:41 AM ~ Harshman 31:07 ~ 1/18/2013 9:19:11 AM ~ Richards agency 203 green cover; judicial branch supplemental 32:03 ~ 1/18/2013 9:20:07 AM ~ Harshman agency 101 supreme court 0101 supremen court administration motion chief justice rec. adopted 01B9 motion chief justice rec. adopted 401 law library motion chief justice rec. adopted motion chief justice rec. adopted 41:19 ~ 1/18/2013 9:29:22 AM ~ Bebout 41:23 ~ 1/18/2013 9:29:26 AM ~ Richards can do a blanket -- cosing sat courts 41:51 ~ 1/18/2013 9:29:54 AM ~ Richards footnote position in Lincoln county; court going through reorganization 2 positions vacant in july. sat courts remain open 42:49 ~ 1/18/2013 9:30:53 AM ~ Bebout chief justice work with sat courts. need to open those 43:26 ~ 1/18/2013 9:31:29 AM ~ Harshman could them all 43:38 ~ 1/18/2013 9:31:41 AM ~ Bebout move, seconded 43:51 ~ 1/18/2013 9:31:54 AM ~ Dockstader explain footnote 44:01 ~ 1/18/2013 9:32:05 AM ~ Bebout 2 positons will not be filled. chief justice allowed 44:33 ~ 1/18/2013 9:32:36 AM ~ Dockstader two positions open where 44:53 ~ 1/18/2013 9:32:56 AM ~ Bebout 3 sat courts 45:11 ~ 1/18/2013 9:33:14 AM ~ Dockstader 45:15 ~ 1/18/2013 9:33:19 AM ~ Richards work of workforce, positons in several counties receive additional position. net negative 2 positions. Amendment grabs one position. 46:37 ~ 1/18/2013 9:34:41 AM ~ Dockstader 46:57 ~ 1/18/2013 9:35:00 AM ~ Bebout 47:19 ~ 1/18/2013 9:35:23 AM ~ Dockstader lincoln co aware position going away. 47:44 ~ 1/18/2013 9:35:47 AM ~ Richards person in position aware it is going away 48:04 ~ 1/18/2013 9:36:07 AM ~ Harshman 48:10 ~ 1/18/2013 9:36:13 AM ~ Stubson reference to 3 other positions wont impact 48:42 ~ 1/18/2013 9:36:46 AM ~ Bebout 2 positions they don't need 49:00 ~ 1/18/2013 9:37:03 AM ~ Harshman fun ds to keep sat courts running 49:33 ~ 1/18/2013 9:37:36 AM ~ Bebout courts wll stay open 49:45 ~ 1/18/2013 9:37:48 AM ~ Harshman understand motion; motion adopted unit numbers for circuit courts 511 50:38 ~ 1/18/2013 9:38:41 AM ~ Agular 50:42 ~ 1/18/2013 9:38:45 AM ~ Harshman lets work off that page 50:52 ~ 1/18/2013 9:38:56 AM ~ Richard start 0501 51:14 ~ 1/18/2013 9:39:17 AM ~ Nicholas move to adopt all supremen court recs. seconded; moton to adopt chief recs. adopted 52:10 ~ 1/18/2013 9:40:14 AM ~ Bebout need to 52:20 ~ 1/18/2013 9:40:23 AM ~ Harshman anyother business in book 52:35 ~ 1/18/2013 9:40:38 AM ~ Richards DC 7 about 15 52:58 ~ 1/18/2013 9:41:02 AM ~ Harshman DC 7 0101 motion district justice rec. adopted 1B motion commission rec adopted 0101 dC 13 motion commission rec. adopted agency 123 motion commission rec. adopted 124 commission rec. adopted 125 commission rec. adopted 126 commission rec. adopted 127 commission rec. adopted 128 commission Time out agency 127 motion commission rec. adopted 128 commission rec. adopted 129 commission rec. adopted 130 commission rec. adopted 131 commission rec. adopted 132 commission rec. adopted 133 commission rec. adopted 134 commission rec. adopted 135 commission rec.adopted 136 commission rec. adopted 137 commission rec. Amendment 1:00:14 ~ 1/18/2013 9:48:17 AM ~ Nicholas move to reduce motion lacks second 137 motion commission rec. adopted 138 motion commission rec.adopted 139 motion commission rec. adopted 140 motion commission rec. adopted 141 motion commission rec.adopted 142 motion commission rec.adopted end of book Time out 1:02:44 ~ 1/18/2013 9:50:47 AM ~ Richards request from Supreme court Harshman sect 319. let's wait for section 300 Motion to close book adopted agency 103 1:04:20 ~ 1/18/2013 9:52:23 AM ~ Esquibel work load has doubled. one employee motion, seconded 1:05:05 ~ 1/18/2013 9:53:08 AM ~ Harshman 1:05:09 ~ 1/18/2013 9:53:13 AM ~ Burkhart money reverted to general fund 1:05:28 ~ 1/18/2013 9:53:31 AM ~ Harshman further discussion 1:05:54 ~ 1/18/2013 9:53:57 AM ~ Hastert note they ran o 1:06:10 ~ 1/18/2013 9:54:13 AM ~ Harshman motion defeated 1:06:22 ~ 1/18/2013 9:54:26 AM ~ Harshman division failed 1:06:40 ~ 1/18/2013 9:54:44 AM ~ Esquibel motion to reduce 8 percent cut to 4 percent , seconded 1:07:08 ~ 1/18/2013 9:55:12 AM ~ Bebout goes into the 1:07:26 ~ 1/18/2013 9:55:29 AM ~ Harshman 900 series zeroed out 1:07:46 ~ 1/18/2013 9:55:49 AM ~ Bebout more like a 2 percent cut 1:07:59 ~ 1/18/2013 9:56:03 AM ~ Nichol 1:08:05 ~ 1/18/2013 9:56:08 AM ~ Harshman motion adopted. motion commission rec. as amended adopted motion to close out agency adopted 1:08:57 ~ 1/18/2013 9:57:00 AM ~ Meier wages for supreme court 1:09:09 ~ 1/18/2013 9:57:13 AM ~ Harshman Cap Con Time out 1:10:03 ~ 1/18/2013 9:58:06 AM ~ Harshman Cap Con end of volume 3 page 559. Unit Camp Guernsey motion gov rec. adopted 8101 Oregon trail Time out 1:11:39 ~ 1/18/2013 9:59:42 AM ~ Bebout which parts of general fund budgets to look at to save GF dollars 1:12:14 ~ 1/18/2013 10:00:17 AM ~ Richards pulling document up 1:12:23 ~ 1/18/2013 10:00:27 AM ~ Bebout utilization of funds 1:12:37 ~ 1/18/2013 10:00:40 AM ~ Harshman 1:12:50 ~ 1/18/2013 10:00:53 AM ~ Richards under LSO documents. spreadsheet perm land trustfund 1:13:18 ~ 1/18/2013 10:01:21 AM ~ Bebout tell us the restrictions 1:13:32 ~ 1/18/2013 10:01:35 AM ~ Wallis XL file cant move over 1:14:08 ~ 1/18/2013 10:02:12 AM ~ Harshman 1:14:16 ~ 1/18/2013 10:02:19 AM ~ Richards income fund 1.33m can be used for facilities; little restrictions 1:14:56 ~ 1/18/2013 10:03:00 AM ~ Harshman 1:15:11 ~ 1/18/2013 10:03:15 AM ~ Richards 1:15:49 ~ 1/18/2013 10:03:53 AM ~ Harshman 1:15:55 ~ 1/18/2013 10:03:59 AM ~ Bebout we can go into that account. how much money. 6.97 million 1:16:21 ~ 1/18/2013 10:04:24 AM ~ Richards capital restoration fund 1:16:55 ~ 1/18/2013 10:04:58 AM ~ Nicholas how much in state school building fund 1:17:49 ~ 1/18/2013 10:05:53 AM ~ Wallis restrictions on deaf, dumb and blind fund? also carey act land fund? 1:18:25 ~ 1/18/2013 10:06:29 AM ~ Agular funds set up 1:19:12 ~ 1/18/2013 10:07:16 AM ~ Meier can the Carey act be used for UW stuff? 1:19:31 ~ 1/18/2013 10:07:35 AM ~ Richards basically statutes do not delineate 1:20:04 ~ 1/18/2013 10:08:07 AM ~ Bebout amounts in funds 1:20:12 ~ 1/18/2013 10:08:15 AM ~ Harshman 1:20:22 ~ 1/18/2013 10:08:25 AM ~ Wallis also have a fish hatchery land fund, other permanent land funds; suggest footnote to look at 1:21:13 ~ 1/18/2013 10:09:16 AM ~ Harshman constitutional funds? common school; 1:21:56 ~ 1/18/2013 10:10:00 AM ~ Richards 1:22:08 ~ 1/18/2013 10:10:11 AM ~ Harshman good questions; never taken them to zero. 8001 1.2 million GF. 1:23:18 ~ 1/18/2013 10:11:22 AM ~ Bebout any others denied GF 1:23:30 ~ 1/18/2013 10:11:34 AM ~ Harshman only two approved projects; UW and camp gurensey 8001 move to replace GF with 1:24:40 ~ 1/18/2013 10:12:44 AM ~ Stubson 1:25:01 ~ 1/18/2013 10:13:04 AM ~ Bebout pressure on general funds. 1:25:21 ~ 1/18/2013 10:13:25 AM ~ Meier should we limit it to bricks and mortar 1:26:14 ~ 1/18/2013 10:14:18 AM ~ Bebout withdraw motion ; footnote may want to 1:26:35 ~ 1/18/2013 10:14:39 AM ~ Harshman second on footnote motion adopted 8001 motion gov rec. adopted 8101 motion gov rec. adopted 8001 motion gov rec. adopted 8001 motion gov rec. adopted Timeout 1:28:13 ~ 1/18/2013 10:16:17 AM ~ Meier need to do something ... 1:28:55 ~ 1/18/2013 10:16:59 AM ~ Harshman denied by building commission motion gov rec. adopted 81 gov rec adopted 8101 1:30:00 ~ 1/18/2013 10:18:04 AM ~ Bebout 1:30:05 ~ 1/18/2013 10:18:08 AM ~ Stubson other public funds/ 1:30:28 ~ 1/18/2013 10:18:31 AM ~ Harshman bonds? 1:30:37 ~ 1/18/2013 10:18:40 AM ~ Bebout 1:30:53 ~ 1/18/2013 10:18:56 AM ~ Stubson 1:31:04 ~ 1/18/2013 10:19:07 AM ~ Meier 1:31:11 ~ 1/18/2013 10:19:15 AM ~ Stubson authorizing spending other funds 1:31:28 ~ 1/18/2013 10:19:32 AM ~ Bebout if using GF dollars 1:31:44 ~ 1/18/2013 10:19:47 AM ~ Richards looking to see if footnote is in current budget. No 1:32:11 ~ 1/18/2013 10:20:14 AM ~ Stublson moved to add footnote 1:32:23 ~ 1/18/2013 10:20:26 AM ~ Harshman motion to remove 1:32:41 ~ 1/18/2013 10:20:45 AM ~ Stubson intent 1:32:56 ~ 1/18/2013 10:20:59 AM ~ Meier do it to the portion of GF 1:33:14 ~ 1/18/2013 10:21:18 AM ~ Harshman will do it at the end motion 8201 motion gov rec. adopted 8301 motion gov rec. adopted 1:34:27 ~ 1/18/2013 10:22:30 AM ~ Wallis time to have you come up. fine facility 1:34:54 ~ 1/18/2013 10:22:57 AM ~ Harshman motion gov rec. adopted 8401 motion gov rec. adopted 8501 motion gov rec. adopted 8001 time out 1:36:44 ~ 1/18/2013 10:24:48 AM ~ Bebout walk us through it 1:36:54 ~ 1/18/2013 10:24:57 AM ~ Harshman separated out AML funds, etc 1:37:22 ~ 1/18/2013 10:25:25 AM ~ Richards expectation to restore money with GF. 15m matching 1:38:11 ~ 1/18/2013 10:26:14 AM ~ Harshman counting 45 in bank 1:38:34 ~ 1/18/2013 10:26:38 AM ~ Richards cap portion 105 1:39:08 ~ 1/18/2013 10:27:12 AM ~ Meier right motion. Put 30 mil 1:39:44 ~ 1/18/2013 10:27:47 AM ~ Harshman 1:40:05 ~ 1/18/2013 10:28:08 AM ~ Richards recall took out 30 mil 1:40:21 ~ 1/18/2013 10:28:24 AM ~ Bebout would like to go with gov rec. 1:40:36 ~ 1/18/2013 10:28:40 AM ~ Wallis gov rec GF 1:40:46 ~ 1/18/2013 10:28:49 AM ~ Harshman motion gov rec. adopted back to 30 m for UW engineering building 1:41:32 ~ 1/18/2013 10:29:36 AM ~ Bebout 1:41:38 ~ 1/18/2013 10:29:41 AM ~ Richards 10 from AML 1:41:50 ~ 1/18/2013 10:29:53 AM ~ Bebout replace 30 m from Gillette Madison 1:42:10 ~ 1/18/2013 10:30:13 AM ~ Harshman appropriated 15. Yesterday AML ...counting match 85; within 30 1:43:18 ~ 1/18/2013 10:31:21 AM ~ Bebout missing something. still short 30. 1:43:42 ~ 1/18/2013 10:31:45 AM ~ Richards motion to add 30 million 1:43:55 ~ 1/18/2013 10:31:58 AM ~ Stubson looking at a true swap with AML funds, make motion 1:44:25 ~ 1/18/2013 10:32:28 AM ~ Meier where is the water development swap? 1:44:42 ~ 1/18/2013 10:32:46 AM ~ Harshman no 30 of GF in Madison; 1:45:23 ~ 1/18/2013 10:33:26 AM ~ Meier will get a one pager 1:45:33 ~ 1/18/2013 10:33:36 AM ~ Harshman motion to increase 30 to 60 motion adopted Back at Noon or shortly thereafter 1:46:27 ~ 1/18/2013 10:34:31 AM ~ Harshman governor's letters motion to close cap con 1:47:10 ~ 1/18/2013 10:35:13 AM ~ Meier like to have a consistent footnote; somewhere in statute limitging square footage. 1:48:10 ~ 1/18/2013 10:36:13 AM ~ Harshman do it in cap con. motion, seconded 1:48:50 ~ 1/18/2013 10:36:54 AM ~ Harshman if a building is 50/50 1:49:05 ~ 1/18/2013 10:37:08 AM ~ Richard make it two tier? 1:49:19 ~ 1/18/2013 10:37:23 AM ~ Harshman let's have a consistant piece. motion, second, 1:50:03 ~ 1/18/2013 10:38:06 AM ~ Richards only three faciliteis excluded 1:50:24 ~ 1/18/2013 10:38:27 AM ~ Harshman 1:50:30 ~ 1/18/2013 10:38:33 AM ~ Meier if going retroactive; UW 100 percent; 1:51:22 ~ 1/18/2013 10:39:25 AM ~ Bebout let's verify 1:51:58 ~ 1/18/2013 10:40:02 AM ~ Harshman motion adpted motion to close out cap con. adopted 1:52:22 ~ 1/18/2013 10:40:26 AM ~ Recess 1:52:57 ~ 1/18/2013 10:41:00 AM ~ Stop Recording