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      0 ~ 12/13/2012 8:02:07 AM ~ Start Recording
   1:33 ~ 12/13/2012 8:03:40 AM ~ 006 - AandI - Department of Administration Nicholas: ask for introductin of staff
   3:28 ~ 12/13/2012 8:05:35 AM ~ Fausset introduces staff.  He is prepared to go through budget and discuss reduction -- full 8$, $3.1 Million.  There are 2 supplemental requests: software license and group insurance program related to wellness program
   5:00 ~ 12/13/2012 8:07:06 AM ~ Fasusset will not discuss MIS goal.  Department did transfer 3 positions to ETS.   He refers to p. 12 of budget.  Director's office recommend $11*K by eliminating one full time position, admin assistant.  Currently vacant.  Suggestion to do more of work themselves.
   6:38 ~ 12/13/2012 8:08:45 AM ~ Nicholas Eliminate position for 24 months?
   7:02 ~ 12/13/2012 8:09:09 AM ~ Fausset would be eliminating
   7:14 ~ 12/13/2012 8:09:21 AM ~ Nicholas eliminate position for period of 24 months -- does the position come back
   7:37 ~ 12/13/2012 8:09:43 AM ~ Fausset it will be eliminated by the beginning of the biennium
   7:58 ~ 12/13/2012 8:10:05 AM ~ Jones essentially see of period of time 13-14 biennium reduction or elimination with 12-24 months referenced.  It allows budget division to calculate the  savings for 8 % reduction.   Might gain again 15-16.
   9:35 ~ 12/13/2012 8:11:42 AM ~ Nicholas want elimination to count for credit now and in the following year.  Wanted 4% of biennium cuts.
  10:15 ~ 12/13/2012 8:12:22 AM ~ Jones in contect of biennial allows to meet target, Makes 15-16 steeper to gain reductions.
  10:53 ~ 12/13/2012 8:12:59 AM ~ Nicholas we said 4% of biennium.  Now saying 8& of second year.  You are carrying forth to next year it is not 4%.
  11:35 ~ 12/13/2012 8:13:42 AM ~ Jones discussed groundrules early on in contect of 14 reductions
  12:03 ~ 12/13/2012 8:14:10 AM ~ Nicholas In July monies revert if not fill this position.  You are not spending but is reversion
  12:37 ~ 12/13/2012 8:14:44 AM ~ Jones monies will go way July 1st of 13
  12:50 ~ 12/13/2012 8:14:57 AM ~ Nicholas you have to physically pull it out
  13:01 ~ 12/13/2012 8:15:08 AM ~ Jones can't double the $60 Million reduction.  Portion will biennialize -- won't happen for 24 month position vacancy.  Will be bump for 12 month elimination in the $60 Million
  13:55 ~ 12/13/2012 8:16:02 AM ~ Nicholas does Governor understand
  14:04 ~ 12/13/2012 8:16:11 AM ~ Jones yes
  14:08 ~ 12/13/2012 8:16:15 AM ~ Nicholas what will biennialize of the $60 Million
  14:23 ~ 12/13/2012 8:16:30 AM ~ Jones could identify
  14:29 ~ 12/13/2012 8:16:36 AM ~ Nicholas haven't really made 8% will have to come up with reduction for next biennium
  14:53 ~ 12/13/2012 8:17:00 AM ~ Jones would look at it differently. You are giving 8% from current.  May have to come up with 4.5%.
  15:37 ~ 12/13/2012 8:17:44 AM ~ Nicholas have all agencies made 8% for next year
  16:01 ~ 12/13/2012 8:18:08 AM ~ Jones
  16:04 ~ 12/13/2012 8:18:11 AM ~ Nicholas need to review the language that we are expecting 8% reduction and may have to go deeoper
  16:37 ~ 12/13/2012 8:18:43 AM ~ Richards it is not 8$ of standard budget but it includes exception requests -- base is larger.
  17:08 ~ 12/13/2012 8:19:15 AM ~ Jones not sure that he does - wants to look at language
  17:25 ~ 12/13/2012 8:19:31 AM ~ Nicholas need agreement as to what 8% is from
  17:42 ~ 12/13/2012 8:19:49 AM ~ Jones language read 8% of general appropriation of standard budgets.   It would remove one time funding allocations.
  18:25 ~ 12/13/2012 8:20:32 AM ~ Nicholas standard budget is the one that leaves the legislature
  18:41 ~ 12/13/2012 8:20:48 AM ~ Jones yes
  18:47 ~ 12/13/2012 8:20:54 AM ~ Nicholas is that what your understand Don
  19:04 ~ 12/13/2012 8:21:11 AM ~ Richards yes
  19:09 ~ 12/13/2012 8:21:16 AM ~ Nicholas would like Jones to make sure he discusses with Governor regarding credits that go beyone 12 months and doesn't really have 4% in the period.
  19:54 ~ 12/13/2012 8:22:01 AM ~ Jones will
  20:03 ~ 12/13/2012 8:22:09 AM ~ Nicholas when do spreadsheets are we trending toward next biennium
  20:24 ~ 12/13/2012 8:22:31 AM ~ Richards you are spending all the money plus another $70 Million
  20:42 ~ 12/13/2012 8:22:48 AM ~ Nicholas when look at this budget they are taking 24 month credit in the second year of the biennium.  The cut will not biennialize.
  21:18 ~ 12/13/2012 8:23:25 AM ~ Fausset p. 25 lists cuts in surplus property area.  Fees for personally assigned vehicles.  Contractual services will be eliminated to meet reduction in surplus property.
  22:54 ~ 12/13/2012 8:25:01 AM ~ Nicholas explain again
  23:01 ~ 12/13/2012 8:25:08 AM ~ Fausset reductions 1) reduction of repair and equipment 2) permanently assign vechicles declined and 3) contractual services in event of long term employee.  Total is greater than $18K.
  24:02 ~ 12/13/2012 8:26:09 AM ~ Nicholas how much for health care?  How much can an employee accumulate
  24:24 ~ 12/13/2012 8:26:31 AM ~ Fausset don't understand
  24:38 ~ 12/13/2012 8:26:45 AM ~ Nicholas sick leave
  24:44 ~ 12/13/2012 8:26:51 AM ~ Fausset 8 hours of sick and 8 hours of annual leave per month.
  25:03 ~ 12/13/2012 8:27:10 AM ~ Nicholas how does it accumulate
  25:14 ~ 12/13/2012 8:27:20 AM ~ Fausset every five years it increases
  25:27 ~ 12/13/2012 8:27:34 AM ~ Harshman increase at 10 years
  25:39 ~ 12/13/2012 8:27:45 AM ~ Fausset yes for annual leave.  Accumulates up to 16 hours.
  26:05 ~ 12/13/2012 8:28:12 AM ~ Fausset leave time remains through out employment according to stated period of increase
  26:54 ~ 12/13/2012 8:29:00 AM ~ Fausset annual leave can only carry over 480 hours per year
  27:09 ~ 12/13/2012 8:29:16 AM ~ Nicholas when employee retires how compensated
  27:22 ~ 12/13/2012 8:29:29 AM ~ Fausset paid for all annual leave plus up to the 480 hours of sick leave paid at half the rate
  27:53 ~ 12/13/2012 8:30:00 AM ~ Fausset at end of year carry forward 480 annual leave not sick leave.   Paid 100% at retirement.  Can only be paid at half the rate for up to 480 hours of sick leave at retirement.
  28:57 ~ 12/13/2012 8:31:04 AM ~ Nicholas for typical employee is that a $40K pay out
  29:14 ~ 12/13/2012 8:31:21 AM ~ Fausset would depend on the pay of the employee at time of retirement
  29:32 ~ 12/13/2012 8:31:39 AM ~ Nicholas typical
  29:39 ~ 12/13/2012 8:31:46 AM ~ Fausset would not be uncommon for employee who worked many years to receive maxium of payout
  30:07 ~ 12/13/2012 8:32:14 AM ~ Nicholas whatever employee's salary at the time
  30:21 ~ 12/13/2012 8:32:28 AM ~ Fausset paid based upon hours -- current pay rate times the number of hours
  30:40 ~ 12/13/2012 8:32:47 AM ~ Nicholas DEQ engineer would receive $40-50K
  30:59 ~ 12/13/2012 8:33:06 AM ~ Fausset common for high level employee
  31:18 ~ 12/13/2012 8:33:25 AM ~ Fausset could be as high as $60K
  31:29 ~ 12/13/2012 8:33:36 AM ~ Fauseet often position would have to leave position vacant for a time to pay for the payout
  32:04 ~ 12/13/2012 8:34:11 AM ~ Nicholas there are pools for some agencies to fill position
  32:54 ~ 12/13/2012 8:35:01 AM ~ Fausset there are provision to recoup the funds in smaller agencies
  33:15 ~ 12/13/2012 8:35:22 AM ~ Nicholas is there a practice to give sick leave to other employees
  33:33 ~ 12/13/2012 8:35:40 AM ~ Fausset can request donated sick leave if employee exhausted all sick leave
  33:56 ~ 12/13/2012 8:36:03 AM ~ Nicholas if employee has 480hours
  34:11 ~ 12/13/2012 8:36:18 AM ~ Fausset there is a limit of 16 hours that can be donated for leave to another employee
  34:37 ~ 12/13/2012 8:36:44 AM ~ Wallis the amount of money in the agency to pay for contractors -- is this common for other agencies where extended leave occurs
  35:34 ~ 12/13/2012 8:37:41 AM ~ Jones not aware of funding for that purpose -- hiring contractors -- where someone may not be available
  36:17 ~ 12/13/2012 8:38:23 AM ~ Nicholas reduction in account for hires sounded like a back fill
  36:36 ~ 12/13/2012 8:38:42 AM ~ Fausset the surplus property section is so small and the amount of supplies managing that contractors were in budget now putting forward as a cut
  37:38 ~ 12/13/2012 8:39:45 AM ~ Wallis how does larger agency deal with  extended sick leave
  37:59 ~ 12/13/2012 8:40:06 AM ~ Fausset if that situation arose we would look to funding available in other divisions or repurposing duties
  38:34 ~ 12/13/2012 8:40:41 AM ~ Jones some larger agencies have temp services in their 900 series
  39:03 ~ 12/13/2012 8:41:10 AM ~ Fausset on p. 29 deals with risk management  $1.5 Million represents 1/2 of total reduction. Have self insurance fund 8 agencies, police and courts.  Also cover auto insurance.  Revenue 1) general fund $10.2 Million  2) funds at end of fiscal year are retained in program 3) generate interest on accummulated funds about $2-3 Million on interest 4) when insurance from private vendors and loss occurs and paid back goes to this account 5) charges to agencies for particular loss, $2.8 Million last year.    Two years ago the hail storms required repair to state buildings and autos.   Also had flooding around the state required.   Did make request about reducing funds last year.  Independent consultant concluded that risk management sound and well funded.  There is $48 Milllion available today in balance.   Believe reduction in $1.5 Million will not harm program.  Worse case claims $29 Million.  Can reduce by $1.5 in this case.   The risk is another major catastrophic loss.
  44:29 ~ 12/13/2012 8:46:36 AM ~ Nicholas impact of tort claims act.  True cuts offered in past.   It doesn't take long to think of a catastrophic event.   What is the worse that can happen?  Years ago the account was underfunded.
  45:39 ~ 12/13/2012 8:47:46 AM ~ Hefenieder surplus of 500k. hail damage. self ins autos and glass.
  48:45 ~ 12/13/2012 8:50:52 AM ~ nicholas
  48:52 ~ 12/13/2012 8:50:59 AM ~ Perkins  reserve fund cuts; 40k don't reappropriate
  49:22 ~ 12/13/2012 8:51:29 AM ~ Nichaolas  give us a history. most of surplus / natural gas buildup; 10m biennium
  50:23 ~ 12/13/2012 8:52:29 AM ~ Perkins; reserve funds; cost savings & capital gains;
  51:02 ~ 12/13/2012 8:53:09 AM ~ Nicholas nothing in budget to lower risk to state; state liability engaged in dangerous activities. snow plow accident
  51:59 ~ 12/13/2012 8:54:06 AM ~ Hefenieder  broken windshields by snow plows; auto accidents by employees; head-on collision; settle claims
  53:12 ~ 12/13/2012 8:55:19 AM ~ Bebout reinsurance of 5million
  53:23 ~ 12/13/2012 8:55:30 AM ~ A&I emp. 100k deduct; 500k iso cap before insurance kicks in; 1.9b state assets
  54:22 ~ 12/13/2012 8:56:29 AM ~ Bebout
  54:31 ~ 12/13/2012 8:56:38 AM ~ Bebout fremont co drive by shooting
  55:19 ~ 12/13/2012 8:57:26 AM ~ Hooper governmental claim;
  55:46 ~ 12/13/2012 8:57:53 AM ~ Bebout  goes in full account managed by st treasurer
  56:07 ~ 12/13/2012 8:58:14 AM ~ Harshmann last time dip into reserve account; have we rolled over money each bi
  56:49 ~ 12/13/2012 8:58:56 AM ~ Nicholas  started larger contribution
  57:10 ~ 12/13/2012 8:59:17 AM ~ Harshmann  looking at 10.2. looks like we have grown the reserve. what is the appropriate amoung
  58:01 ~ 12/13/2012 9:00:08 AM ~ Hooper Study gave us the appropriate amount. look at each claim. report 700k, returned over 500k
  58:54 ~ 12/13/2012 9:01:01 AM ~ Jones narrative on P 29 balance of 15m. Contribute 10m grown
  59:38 ~ 12/13/2012 9:01:44 AM ~ Nicholas  assess all claims - worse case - where are we. how big does it need to get
1:00:20 ~ 12/13/2012 9:02:26 AM ~ Hooper  accuary study. Don't do projections out. what we have
1:01:31 ~ 12/13/2012 9:03:38 AM ~ Nicholas  what happens if we have t-3 in a row
1:01:48 ~ 12/13/2012 9:03:55 AM ~ Hooper  insite into what has happened. Known pending law suits . Possible cuts
1:02:20 ~ 12/13/2012 9:04:27 AM ~ Nicholas  ins above 5m. what happens with large verdict
1:02:51 ~ 12/13/2012 9:04:58 AM ~ Hooper  5m payout above state liabl
1:03:13 ~ 12/13/2012 9:05:20 AM ~ Nicholas how analyzed
1:03:28 ~ 12/13/2012 9:05:35 AM ~ Perkins  what is reinsure
1:03:58 ~ 12/13/2012 9:06:04 AM ~ Hooper we insure properties, aircraft and equip for WYDOT. 500k decuctible. all claims, we pay out. federal tort, 1st M
1:05:14 ~ 12/13/2012 9:07:21 AM ~ Perkins  2 hail stroms in same summer 500k for each storm
1:05:35 ~ 12/13/2012 9:07:42 AM ~ Hooper separate occurances July 12, secone July 27 porperty claims. 500k for each storm. Payout form ins
1:06:29 ~ 12/13/2012 9:08:36 AM ~ Nicholas no cap on 5m. Insured cap.
1:06:44 ~ 12/13/2012 9:08:51 AM ~ Hooper cap on 500m property coverage cat los
1:07:03 ~ 12/13/2012 9:09:10 AM ~ Nicholas insurred up to loss
1:07:20 ~ 12/13/2012 9:09:26 AM ~ Hooper ask for insurred value of building
1:07:34 ~ 12/13/2012 9:09:41 AM ~ Bebout  in business world- look at reductions reduce government. what other areas did you look at
1:08:34 ~ 12/13/2012 9:10:41 AM ~ Fausett
1:08:49 ~ 12/13/2012 9:10:56 AM ~ Fausett ask each div where they can meet 8% reductions looked at positions; rec cutting positions, servi es provided. Risk mgt area for reductions
1:09:58 ~ 12/13/2012 9:12:05 AM ~ Bebout vacant position. 1.5m risk management;
1:10:38 ~ 12/13/2012 9:12:45 AM ~ Jones  departments offering up reductions, approach to 2013 reductions in 15-16 cuts deeper. forced to reevaluate positions. Gov looking at reductions, Riff.
1:12:16 ~ 12/13/2012 9:14:23 AM ~ Bebout  better to ease into it. Riff something not want to be part of; make hard decisions now. not wait until it happens
1:13:17 ~ 12/13/2012 9:15:23 AM ~ Fausett looking at vacant positions; review process looking at need to fill. Proactive approach; monitor vacant positions
1:14:25 ~ 12/13/2012 9:16:32 AM ~ Nicholas  risk pool
1:14:43 ~ 12/13/2012 9:16:50 AM ~ Hooper auditors have it will provide
1:14:59 ~ 12/13/2012 9:17:05 AM ~ Nicholas  after 2003 double size of gov. look at farm bureau. what are they doing. not risk tolerant. take 1.5 m out of risk pool
1:16:19 ~ 12/13/2012 9:18:25 AM ~ Fausett  Page 33 central mail. eleminate one position july 2013. move employee to another vacant position. outcome impact on state agencies.2 drop and pickup per day reduced to 1 per day. critical mail needs-central location provided.. Reducing soft goods and supplies. Propose 10k cut. Page 49. relates to utilities. reduction of 500k. total 7.5m. proactive no rate increases in future. Risk-adverse weather conditions or spike in utility charges
1:21:18 ~ 12/13/2012 9:23:25 AM ~ Richards  require 4m reduction
1:21:43 ~ 12/13/2012 9:23:50 AM ~ Nicholas  responsible for heat. not sustainable cuts. managing enough money, not labor related, over budgeted based on past years.nonstainable cut. Over budgeted back fill
1:23:30 ~ 12/13/2012 9:25:36 AM ~ Fausett P 54. Real property leasing 12m/bienium. moving agencies into state owned buildings. reductions in leasings supported
1:24:46 ~ 12/13/2012 9:26:53 AM ~ Nicholas  if we provide additional employees needing additional space. May want to look at space capacity when adding employees.
1:26:05 ~ 12/13/2012 9:28:12 AM ~ VonFlatern correction in lease budget
1:26:22 ~ 12/13/2012 9:28:29 AM ~ Nicholas  giving up an overage. not going to yield 8%. need to see cuts that can  be biennielized. Dept of Health 7 million. Need to do before markup. Honest assessment on savings.
1:28:29 ~ 12/13/2012 9:30:36 AM ~ Bebout  information item bill change in responsiblity. any comments on change
1:29:09 ~ 12/13/2012 9:31:16 AM ~ Fausett aware of bill. no specifics
1:29:28 ~ 12/13/2012 9:31:35 AM ~ Cathcart aware of bill. efficient way to manage projects at community colleges. looking at reality of bill passing. Construction mgt work with 7 community colleges. Fed stimulus dollars. valuable assistance provided. CC on board. Most CC have 2 facility people.
1:32:03 ~ 12/13/2012 9:34:09 AM ~ Bebout  position transfers
1:32:19 ~ 12/13/2012 9:34:26 AM ~ Nicholas  Cathcart hired project overruns; succession planning. as more responsibilities. How do you report.
1:34:08 ~ 12/13/2012 9:36:15 AM ~ Cathcart  when we created office, answered to gov. recommendations brought to gov. Legislative intent. hired by gov friendthall. separate office within A&I. Operated independently; Take over general services; portion of duties. construction management. Future const management. need real live person to make decisions; work closely with A&I. Adminsitrator of general services. need to maintain indepandence of construction mgt. much coordingation with many agencies. Bill const
1:38:49 ~ 12/13/2012 9:40:56 AM ~ Nicholas flow chart - construction manager position report directly to Gov. Capital facilities approp. Good management with prison. Recommendation to beter define reporting role.
1:40:42 ~ 12/13/2012 9:42:48 AM ~ Fausett  A&I provide billing functions.  Working relation with ETS. Lots of hR issues . Flint reports directly to Gov. A&I provides servic es through MOU. looking at ways construction management; direct reporting. General services . Construction mgt works closely.
1:43:54 ~ 12/13/2012 9:46:01 AM ~ Nicholas budget amendment; could put bill together. preserve qualityies JAC looks for. Before markup need recommendations. Before we finish up
1:45:13 ~ 12/13/2012 9:47:20 AM ~ Faucett. final 8 percent from human resources. cuts- program in place for student inturms. reduced to 20 per year statewide cost 130k. if state agencies want inturns need to pay part.
1:47:07 ~ 12/13/2012 9:49:14 AM ~ Nicholas why program decline
1:47:21 ~ 12/13/2012 9:49:28 AM ~ Fausett declined due to dollars available. gradual reductions over last 2 years. viable program.value in program. options availabel.
1:48:24 ~ 12/13/2012 9:50:31 AM ~ Nicholas questions
1:48:31 ~ 12/13/2012 9:50:38 AM ~ Fauscett deduction to contractual services in HR. Hay study. fund adequate no severe impact. moove into supplement req. Page 69. Request53.9lk for ecconomic models. funding for only year. legislature request initially.
1:50:49 ~ 12/13/2012 9:52:55 AM ~ Bebout  support leg decision. How is it goingl
1:51:09 ~ 12/13/2012 9:53:16 AM ~ Fausett  software being used effectively. needed tool.
1:51:52 ~ 12/13/2012 9:53:59 AM ~ Faussett wellness program not meeting goal. number of incentivies provided to state employees. Insurance premium reduction. Health assessment.constant increases. Proactive and positive ways for employees go remain healthy. 2011 group insurance assessment 52 percent hyper tension. overweight, lack of exercise. stress, 77% 66% in high risk activities-no seat belts. Need to encourage employees. wellness program moving more to health coaching. Robust program in cooperation with wy health fair. one question evaluate effectiveness - physical measurements of employees with health coaching. consultant to evaluate.
1:58:33 ~ 12/13/2012 10:00:40 AM ~ Nicholas why Mayo clinic.
1:58:46 ~ 12/13/2012 10:00:53 AM ~ 
1:59:41 ~ 12/13/2012 10:01:47 AM ~ Pause
1:59:41 ~ 12/13/2012 10:31:10 AM ~ Resume
1:59:41 ~ 12/13/2012 10:31:10 AM ~ 
2:00:09 ~ 12/13/2012 10:31:38 AM ~ Hayes  Anticipate 200m in medical claims. Program includes ex branch UofW, Natrona county
2:01:14 ~ 12/13/2012 10:32:42 AM ~ Nicholas  short term trend
2:01:26 ~ 12/13/2012 10:32:55 AM ~ Hayes slowing of health care inflation 6.9percent rate decrease. wellness program.
2:02:10 ~ 12/13/2012 10:33:38 AM ~ Nicholas  Next year
2:02:20 ~ 12/13/2012 10:33:49 AM ~ Hayes Anticipate another
2:02:39 ~ 12/13/2012 10:34:08 AM ~ Nicholas
2:02:45 ~ 12/13/2012 10:34:14 AM ~ Hayes rate holiday. trends in excess of 16 percent. Projections trends. 3 years of reserves. reduce reserves. Federal programs get their fair share
2:04:06 ~ 12/13/2012 10:35:34 AM ~ Nicholas rate holiday
2:04:15 ~ 12/13/2012 10:35:44 AM ~ Hayes
2:04:23 ~ 12/13/2012 10:35:52 AM ~ Nicholas increase next year
2:04:35 ~ 12/13/2012 10:36:04 AM ~ Hayes medical claims continue to grow. calculate on recent information. spending authority
2:05:04 ~ 12/13/2012 10:36:33 AM ~ Nicholas do you discuss impacts of medicade
2:05:26 ~ 12/13/2012 10:36:55 AM ~ Hayes do not have a direct impact. Expansion no
2:05:51 ~ 12/13/2012 10:37:20 AM ~ Nicholas cost shifting; costs go down.
2:06:14 ~ 12/13/2012 10:37:43 AM ~ Hayes elimination of cost shifting. large state, no competition with medical providers; forntier medican
2:07:22 ~ 12/13/2012 10:38:51 AM ~ Edmonds  wellness program cost to state
2:07:38 ~ 12/13/2012 10:39:07 AM ~ Hayes 800k per year
2:07:49 ~ 12/13/2012 10:39:18 AM ~ Edmonds results what do you hope to achieve how to track
2:08:16 ~ 12/13/2012 10:39:45 AM ~ Hayes test pilot hire consultant. Is program working
2:08:47 ~ 12/13/2012 10:40:16 AM ~ Edmonds How can a acural going to track
2:09:13 ~ 12/13/2012 10:40:42 AM ~ Hayes best avenue to test
2:09:24 ~ 12/13/2012 10:40:53 AM ~ Edmonds piliot progrms
2:09:36 ~ 12/13/2012 10:41:04 AM ~ Hayes contract basis for health coaches. Mayo clinic
2:10:00 ~ 12/13/2012 10:41:29 AM ~ Edmonds understand success of program
2:10:17 ~ 12/13/2012 10:41:46 AM ~ Hays monitor meet criteria, consistent with meds
2:10:49 ~ 12/13/2012 10:42:17 AM ~ Edmonds how coaches employed
2:11:05 ~ 12/13/2012 10:42:34 AM ~ Hayes anticipated 8-10k empliyees. reduction in sick leave.
2:11:42 ~ 12/13/2012 10:43:11 AM ~ Edmonds est of health coaches
2:11:55 ~ 12/13/2012 10:43:24 AM ~ hayes no
2:11:59 ~ 12/13/2012 10:43:28 AM ~ Perkins  program offered by Mayo. Metrics offered?
2:12:56 ~ 12/13/2012 10:44:25 AM ~ Hayes wellness venders don't come with hard metrics. Formula. rely on acurary
2:13:42 ~ 12/13/2012 10:45:11 AM ~ Perkins  Set up some kind of markers
2:13:59 ~ 12/13/2012 10:45:27 AM ~ Edmonds  narrative movement toward value base health care. value vs quality cost. barrier to employee vision
2:15:01 ~ 12/13/2012 10:46:30 AM ~ Hays value based health care into model. active role with patients. primary care on traditional side. Providers using value based. traditional care. medical providers  looking at whole patient, help get care. support. all wyoming members
2:17:19 ~ 12/13/2012 10:48:48 AM ~ Bebout Gov message 69m.
2:17:37 ~ 12/13/2012 10:49:06 AM ~ Hayes not sure of message
2:17:51 ~ 12/13/2012 10:49:20 AM ~ Nicholas rate holiday
2:18:05 ~ 12/13/2012 10:49:34 AM ~ Hayes rate decrease agency 100 series. Cant speak to 16m
2:18:42 ~ 12/13/2012 10:50:11 AM ~ Bebout next budget cycle
2:18:53 ~ 12/13/2012 10:50:22 AM ~ Hayes expect always higher medical cost. outpatient perscription drugs 25cents on every dollar. step theropy. higher use of medications. costs going up 40percent on every dollar. sometime cheaper to take higher cost meds.
2:21:21 ~ 12/13/2012 10:52:49 AM ~ Bebout bret do you have something
2:21:42 ~ 12/13/2012 10:53:11 AM ~ Jones projection identified.16,9m  Gov lets hold and capture
2:22:34 ~ 12/13/2012 10:54:03 AM ~ Bebout natrona only school district on board others
2:22:55 ~ 12/13/2012 10:54:23 AM ~ Hayes employeer based system. not trying to compete with blue cross.
2:23:31 ~ 12/13/2012 10:55:00 AM ~ Bebout more people spread risk around
2:23:54 ~ 12/13/2012 10:55:23 AM ~ Hayes bigger is not always better 90cents available for claims. pushback from insurers
2:24:45 ~ 12/13/2012 10:56:13 AM ~ Nicholas districts costs going up. more competitive
2:25:05 ~ 12/13/2012 10:56:34 AM ~ Hayes Natrona co same demographics as state. additional 2200 employees. more doctors participating.
2:25:53 ~ 12/13/2012 10:57:22 AM ~ Nicholas benefits small communities could not get insurance.
2:26:25 ~ 12/13/2012 10:57:54 AM ~ Hayes talk to school districts annually. employeer contribution, Natrona Co net savings.
2:27:12 ~ 12/13/2012 10:58:41 AM ~ Faussett complets
2:27:29 ~ 12/13/2012 10:58:58 AM ~ Nicholas Capcon. where are we
2:27:47 ~ 12/13/2012 10:59:15 AM ~ Cathcart ongoing project  has 100 projects under contract. major torrington prison not colosed outl joint lab- design and construction of uw building.ready for spring start. many small projects. Pioneer home 6m renovation. State fair about finished. Property acc area. executive session. reducing leasing budget going to continue to get better. Hathaway building work. CEC requirements space occupied by state agencies using outside high cost lease space. Capital investment-lease cost reductions.
2:33:17 ~ 12/13/2012 11:04:46 AM ~ Nicholas status
2:33:25 ~ 12/13/2012 11:04:54 AM ~ Cathcart 16,000 sq ft. 100k under appraised value. vacant by first of year.
2:34:17 ~ 12/13/2012 11:05:46 AM ~ 
2:36:15 ~ 12/13/2012 11:07:44 AM ~ Stop Recording