December 17, 2014
12/17/2014 7:30:45 AM
BEBOUT IS THE CHAIRMAN FOR THE DAY
BEBOUT:  DISCUSSION OF CONGRESSIONAL LAW, IF THERE ARE 9 OR LESS, MAY HAVE AN INEXPERIENCED PILOT.  10 OR MORE PASSENGERS MUST HAVE PILOT WITH 1500 HOURS. AIR ENHANCEMENT ISUES FOR WYOMING
BEBOUT:  ASKED MR. BYRNE TO EXPLAIN GILLETE, ROCK SPRINGS ACTIVITY. CASPER HAS NO AIR ENHANCEMENT. SHERIDAN AND RIVERTON HAVE ISSUES. GIVE INSIGHT. VAN ALLEN REPORT
BYRNE: WYDOT AERONATICS .  IMPASSE OF FAR 1 17 AND 1500 HOURS RULE.  POTENTIONAL NEGATIVE IMPACTS COMING TO WYOMNG ECAUSE OF LEGISLATURE.  1500 HOUR RULE IS DETERENT TO STUDENTS.  FAR 1-17 GOVERNS CREW REST.  3600-6000 PILOTS REQUIRED FOR SAME ROUTE AFTER IMPLEMENTATION OF FAR 1-17.  MANDATORY REQUIREMENT TO RETIRE AT 65 YEARS OF AGE.  ONLY 18000 PILOTS IN THE REGIONALS TODAY.  THERE WILL BE A LACK OF PILOTS.  IN CONTACT WITH CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION.  CONGRESSIONAL LEVEL IMPACT NEEDED.
12/17/2014 7:36:59 AM
BYRNE: FUNDS TO ENTICE MAIN LINE OR REGIONAL CARRIERS TO SERVE WY COMMUNITIES. GRANT PROGRAM.  GILLETE AND ROCK SPRINGS PARTICIPANTS.  MET WITH CARRIERS AND COMMUNITIES TO NEGOTIATE CONTRACTS AND TERMS.  COSTS HAVE INCREASED AND WILL INCREASE. TURBO PROP 30 SEATERS ARE NOT BEING BUILT ANYMORE, AGING FLEET.  GILLETE AND ROCK SPRINGS WILL SEE JET SERVICE EFFECTIVE FEB 1.  MINIMUM REVENUE ALLOWS NEGOTIATION TO KEEP COMMERCIAL AIR SERVICE IN WYOMING. IT WILL BECOME MORE EXPENSIVE.  LAWS OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND. FEWER AIRCRAFT AND FEWER CREWS.  WYOMING IS ONLY STATE THAT HAS THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM. THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE THE PROGRAM BUT NOT STATES.  GREAT LAKES, AFTER FIRST OF YEAR, WILL HAVE BETTER IDEA OF AIRCRAFT AND CREWS.
12/17/2014 7:40:41 AM
BEBOUT:  DO YOU NEGOTIATE WITH UNITED, SKY WEST.  WHAT DID YOU DO FOR GILLETTE AND ROCK SPRINGS?  SKY WEST WORKS FOR UNITED. WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION?
BYRNE: WE HAVE GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH SKY WEST.  IF YOU WORK WITH THEM, DO NOT HAVE ANOTHER LAYER OF PROFIT.  
BEBOUT: SAYS IF YOU DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH UNITED, MAY NOT GET THE FLOW OR THE AIRCRAFT.
BYRNE: WHEN WE NEGOTIATE WITH UNITED, THE COST IS HIGHER THAN NEGOTIATING WITH SKY WEST. WE DO NOT KNOW HOW CHANGES WILL IMPACT THAT.  WE LOOK TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL.  WE WILL WORK WITH ALL AIRLINES TO BRING SERVICE TO WYOMING.  FOR GILLETTE AND ROCKS SPRINGS, WE HAVE MET WITH UNITED FOR SOME TIME. KNEW ABOUT JET TRANSITION.  NOT GIVEN A FIRM DATE UNTIL AMONHT AGO. 
12/17/2014 7:43:32 AM
BEBOUT: COST FOR GILLETE AND ROCK SPRINGS
BYRNE: GILLETE ONE RT TO SLC AND 2 RT TO DENVER, NON STOP
TAYLOR:  SKY WEST AND UNITED – ROCK SPRINGS 2 RT TO DENVER WITH NO SERVICE TO SLC.  REASON FOR NO TAG ..1.2 M FOR STATE,  
BEBOUT 2.3 M COUNTY,
TAYLOR: 2MILLION, STATE SHARE 1.3 M 
BEBOUT:  NUMBERS ARE INTERESTING
12/17/2014 7:45:37 AM
BURNS:  MINIMUM SEAT GUARNATEES
TAYLOR: MINIMUM REVENUE GUARANTEE
BURNS; IF MINIMUM SEATS ARE NOT MET, MONEY WILL BE THERE AND USED
TAYLOR: IF COSTS EXCEED REVENUE THEN MONEY WILL BE USED. IF THEY DO BETTER, MONEY WILL COME BACK TO STATE.
BURNS: WHERE IS THE MONEY, PAID IN ADVANCE?
BYRNE:  NO, NOT PAID AHEAD OF TIME. MNOEY KEPT IN H11.  ONE TIME IT WAS PAID IN ADVANCE.
BURNS:  SAME MONEY CAN BE USED YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT, 
BYRNES: MONEY DOES NOT REVERT TO GF
BURNS:  VIEWED AS ONE TIME FUNDING?
BYRNES:  EACH GRANT IS ONE TIME FUNDING.  YOU ARE NOT GUARANTEED THE NEXT YEARS GRANT.  AT BASIS IT IS ONE TIME BUT CAN BE APPLIED FOR EACH YEAR
BURNS: MONEY IN ACCOUNT FOR SHERIDAN?
BYRNES: MONEY IN ACCOUNT FOR ANY COMMUNITY TO APPLY FOR IT
12/17/2014 7:48:36 AM
BEBOUT: GIVE A SNAPSHOT OF MONEY COMMITTED, HOW MUCH WAS IN THERE, IF IT REVERTED OR DID NOT.
HASTERT:  ROCK SPRINGS, WILL LOSE JET SERVICE?
BYRNES: WILL LOSE TURBO SERVICE, WILL BE GETTING JETS.  
HASTERT: CUTTING OUT SLC, 
HASTERT: HISTORIC TAP ON THE MONEY
BEBOUT: PUT THAT IN THE REPORT, FLOW BACK, DISCUSSED LAST YEAR.  
HASTERT:  POTENTIAL FOR COST TO RISE.  LESS PEOPLE WILL USE IT, THUS MORE OF A TAP ON FUNDS.
BYRNE: YES…PART OF COST IS NOT OPERATION COST, IT IS OPPORTUNITY COST. IT WILL BE MORE EXPENSIVE FOR COMMUNITIES. I AM NOT SURE IF THERE WILL BE A DIRECT CONNECTION WITH TICKET PRICES. 
HASTERT:  DENVER, LARAMIE, WORLAND FLIGHT AT ONE TIME.  MULTIPLE STOPS PART OF NEGOTIATION.  
BYRNE:  WE DO TALK TO THA AIRLINES ABOUT TAGGING COMMUNITIES.  LARGER REGIONALS ARE GR NOT WILLING TO DO THAT.
TAYLOR:  AIRLINES DO NOT LIKE TO TAG BECAUSE OF ECONOMICS OF MILES AND TAKES AWAY SEATS FROM COMMUNITY.  TAGGING RIVERTON AND SHERIDAN HAD SLIGHT COST SAVINGS.
HASTERT:  IF TAGGING AFFORDS A COMMUNITY AIR SERVICE AND THERE IS NOT A HUGE COST DIFFERENTIAL, ..
HASTERT: CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION FEEDBACK?
BYRNE:  SHERIDAN AND RIVERTON CAN SUPPORT SERVICE ON THEIR OWN.  CONGRESSIONAL – WILL BE DISUCSSION AT NATIONAL LEVEL, REAUTHORIZATION IS THE TIME TO ADDRESS IT.  SEEING NATIONAL SUPPORT
12/17/2014 7:54:45 AM
BEBOUT:  BURIED IN A BILL.  MEMBER OF AOPA…
12/17/2014 7:55:18 AM
VON FLATERN: THIS IS A REVNUE GUARANTEE SO CAN FILL EVERY SEAT IN PLANE BUT DO NOT MAKE MONEY, WE PAY.  GILLETE LOST FRQUENCY WHEN WE GO TO JETS.  WILL BE SELF DEFEATING.  4 OR 5 PM FLIGHT TO SLC, DOES NOT FIT PEOPLE’S SCHEDULES.  END UP SPENDING NIGHT IN SLC.  
12/17/2014 7:56:38 AM
BEBOUT: NUMBERS FOR COMMITTEE WHEN THEY MEET NEXT YEAR, RIVERTON TEARING UP RUNWAY. SUBMIT PROFILE SO WE KNOW IF MONEY IS THERE.  RIVERTON READY IN 2016.
ROSS:  ISN’T THIS JUST AN EXERCISE IN FUTILITY?  THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE GOING TO GET THE AIR SERVICE ARE GOING TO GET IT, LIKE JACKSON AND CASPER.  
BYRN:  NO, ABSOLUTELY NO.  IF YOU ASK THE COMMUNITIES RECEIVING COMMERCIAL SERVICE, IMPORTANCE TO ECONOMY AND COMMUNITIES. CAN WE SUSTAIN IT FOREVER? I DO NOT KNOW.
BYRN:  BASED ON CURRENT FORECAST, WE WILL BE BACK NEXT YEAR ASKING FOR MONEY.  WE WILL PROVIDE APPRORIATE NIFO TO COMMUNITY
12/17/2014 7:59:18 AM
BURNS:  FROM A CHEYENNE PERSPECTIVE, 90 MINUTES FROM DIA, MAY BE THE CASE. IF LIVE NORTH, SIX HOURS FROM DIA, BECOMES A FACTOR.  FORWARD SHERIDAN IS ASKED ABOUT AIR SERVICE AND QUALITY, ONE OF FIRST THREE QUESTIONS.  SHERIDAN HAS A HOUSIGN BOOM DUE TO THE BALKANS.
ILLOWAY: LOBBY FOR WYOMING AIRPORT ASSOC, SERVES ON WYO BUSINESS COUNCIL, WHICH BELIEVES AIR SERVICE IS CRITICAL , CHEYENNE AIR SERVICE BOARD, POSSIBIILTIES FOR A CHICAGO FLIGHT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BURNS: MR. ILLOWAY REPRESENTS NATO.
12/17/2014 8:01:46 AM
HARSHMAN: OUT OF TOTAL BUDGET, THIS IS WHAT AMOUNT FOR AIR NEHANCEMENT.  SINCE INCEPTION OF PROGRAM IT IS 24 M, SINCE 2004.
BEBOUT: BUDGET IS 3 M. DEBATE ABOUT WHAT IS KEP IN THERE AND WHAT IS USED. VON ALLEN REPORT. I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE REPORT.  HOW MUCH PER HOUR TO RUN THE STATE PLANES.  370 PER GALLON FOR JET FUEL.  COST OF 3400-3500 PER HOUR TO OPERATE STATE JETS.
12/17/2014 8:03:27 AM
MEISEL: COST IS CORRECT 1450 PER HOUR CHARGED TO STATE AGENCIES
BEBOUT: SUBSIDIZING OTHER AGENCIES TO THE TUNE OF 2000 PER HOUR.
BEBOUT: SELLING JETS WOULD TAKE A SEVERE BEATING.  COMPARED TO KING AIR JETS.  WORK WITH THE TWO OF YOU TO COME UP WITH A PLAN OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO DOWN THE ROAD.  WE HAVE TO ELIMINATE THE JETS OR LOOK AT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF AIRCRAFT.  IF WE DID NOT SUBSIDIZE THE OTHER STATE AGENCIES, THEN HOW MUCH WOULD WE CHARGE .. 1.2 M PER YEAR FOR PLANE AND HOW MUCH DO WE SUBSIDIZE.   HOW MUCH TIME DO THOSE JETS HAVE LEFT?  A YEAR OR TOW
MEISEL: 15 TO 20 YEARS OF USEFUL LIFE
 BEBOUT:   IF MAINTAINED,
MEISEL ; YES GOOD PROGRAM
VON FLATERN: 10 YEARS LIFE
MEISEL: HOURS..FLY ABOUT 600 HRS PER YEAR
VON FLATERN: ABOUT 400 HRS PER PLANE, WILL LAST 10000, MONEY IN THE ENGINES. STUCK WITH THEM.
BEBOUT:  VALUE NOW ?
MEISEL: RESIDENTIAL VALUE NOW ABOUT 2.5 MILLION
12/17/2014 8:07:28 AM
DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION AND INFORMATION
12/17/2014 8:10:09 AM
BEBOUT:  BUDGET SUPPLEMENTAL DISCUSSION, ANY UPDATES? CAPITOL? OVERVIEW
FAUSSET:  BUDGET REQUEST, AND THEN ASK MEL MULDROW TO GO OVER THE CAPITAOL CONSTRUCTION.  PG 9 OF BUDGET BOOK.  PRIORITY NUMBER 2 FOR FUNDS TO PAY FOR A NEW AR SYSTEM WE BILL STATE AGENCIES FOR MOTOR POOL AND MAIL ROOM CHARGES TO THE TUNE OF 8 M PER YEAR. HAVE MAINFRAME SYSTEM BUILT IN THE 70’S. ETS HAS RECOMMENDED THAT IT BE CHANGED ASAP. BUSINESS CASE REVIEW. TRACKS 6 M FOR MOTOR POOL AND 1.8 FOR MAILING.  WILL PROVIDE FUNTIONALITY TO AGENCY BY BEING ONLINE AND REAL TIME.  
CO CHAIRMAN PERKINS TAKES OVER
FAUSSET: GREAT ENHANCEMENT . 70000 PER YEAR FOR MAINTENANCE AND 84000 PER YEAR FOR HOSTING, BOTH FOR VENDOR.  TOTAL FOR SARA IS 154000 PER YEAR.
BURNS:  WILL BE OUTSOURCING THIS SERVICE?
FAUCETT: BILLING SERVICE WILL BE COORDINATED BY AANDI STAFF. COMPUTER APPLICATION WILL BE HOSTED BY A DIFFERENT VENDOR
BURNS: CURRENTLY?
FAUSSET: ON STATE MAINFRAME
BURNS:  CHANGE IN PERSONNEL?
FAUSSET: ALL SUPPORT FROM ETS SO DIRECT BILLING COST
BURNS: LESS WORK REQUIRED FROM ETS
FAUSSET: CORRECT
STUBSON: BIENNIALIZED NUMBER, IN NEXT STD BUDGET
FAUSSET: YES
PERKINS: AKSING FOR BIENNIALIZED NUMBER IN THE SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET?
HORSLEY:  THIS NUMBER IS BIENNALIZED BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY BEING CHARGED.  
NICHOLAS:  154000 PER YEAR?
FAUSSET: PER BIENNIUM
NICHOLAS:  ETS CHARGES?
FAUSSET: NO ADDIITIONAL ETS COSTS, SARA MANAGED BY RORY AND ACCOUNTING OFFICE AND NOT HOSTED ON STATE MAIN FRAME
PERKINS: 
FAUSSET: PG 9.  TWO ADDITIONAL POSITIONS FOR THE BUDGET DIVISION AUTHORIZE TRANSFER OF TWO VACANT POSITIONS FROM ETS.  DISCUSSIONS WITH WATERS.  HAS AGREED TO TRANSFER TO AANDI.  REQUEST GF,  213000 PER YEAR.  REASON FOR POSITIONS DUE TO FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS OF GRANT MANAGEMENTS. FEDERAL FUNDING AND ACCOUNTABIITY ACT.  AUDITOR’S OFFICE, SF 70 AND 71, TASK FORCE.  AUDITOR’S OFFICE HAS MODULE TO BETTER TRACK GRANTS..TWO POSITIONS WILL WORK WITH AUDITORS OFFICE TO ESTABLISH PROTOCOL,…NOT TAKING OVER THE RESPONSIBILTY OF AGENCY. DO NOT BELIEVE MOST AGENCIES HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO MANAGE THIS TYPE OF REQUIREMENT, FITS WITHIN STATUTORY REQUIREMENT OF AANDI..UNFIORM PRACTICES AND PROCEDURES………DUAL WORKING RELATIONSHIP.  IF WE DON’T DO IT, MANY AGENCIES WILL CREAT THEIR OWN SYSTEM SO NO UNIFORMITY.  PART OF THE WOLF SYSTEM.  PG 14 BREAKDOWN
12/17/2014 8:21:51 AM
HARSHMAN: TWO POSITINS HOUSED?
FAUSSET: IN BUDGET DIVISION, WOULD WORK WITH HIBBARD AND OTHER BUDGET ANALYSTS.
HARSHMAN: GO FROM 7 TO 9
PERKINS:  IS THIS A NET TO NET, OR ADDITIONAL EXENDITURE
FAUSSET” ADDITIONAL COST
PERKINS: AUTHORIZED BUT UNFUNDED POSITION?
HARSHMAN: ?
FAUSSET:  THROUGH THE ENTERPRISE FUND.
HARSHMAN: WHO IS NOT USING THOSE SERVICES?
FAUSSET: CAN NOT SPECIFY.  DIRECTOR WATERS CONVERSATION.  
PERKINS: REDUCTION OF THOSE POSITIONS IN ETS BUDGET
FAUSSET:  
PERKINS: REDUCTION OF MONEY IN ETS BUDGET?
NICHOLAS: NOT A REDUCTION,
HIBBARD:  UNDER THOSE TWO POSITIONS, ETS WOULD HAVE BILLED OUT.  TWO VACANT POSITINOS BUT NO MONEY IN ETS TO FUND THEM.
HARSHMAN: SOME ONE HAS MONEY SOMEWHERE IN THIS BUDGET FOR THOSE TWO POSITIONS.
HIBBARD: FUNDS ACROSS AGENCIES BUT NOT DIRECTLY ASSOCIATED WITH THESE TWO POSITIONS.  ETS IS PROVIDING SERVICES WITH THEIR EXISTING POSITIONS.  WILL NEED TO BE FUNDED IN BUDGET DIVISION.
GREEAR:  MOTOR POOL SOFTWARE, CHARGE BILLED TO ETS SO NOT THERE NOW, HOW DO WE BALANCE THAT OUT?
HORSLEY:  MAIN FRAME SYSTEM WAS NOT RESULTING IN CHARGES FROM ATS. THERE WAS AN AWAC EMPLOYEE.  HAD MAINTENANCE CHARGES FROM OUTSIDE VENDOR.
GREEAR:  COST OF NEW SYSTEM, WHERE ARE REALIZED SAVINGS. HOW DO NET THEM OUT?

12/17/2014 8:27:45 AM
RICHARDS: COULD REDUCE BUDGET AUTHORITY IN ETS BUT WON’T HAVE GF OFFSET.  CAN REDUCE ETS BUDGET AUTHORITY.  
PERKINS: MAKE A NOTE OF THAT.
NICHOLAS:  HOW MANY GRANTS, PRIMARY AGENCIES, WHAT IF AGENCIES DO IT THEMSELVES.
FAUSSET:  HALF OF OUR AGENCIES RECEIVE FEDERAL GRANTS.  FISCAL PERSONNEL MAY NOT HAVE TIME OR CAPACITY TO DO THE WORK.  NOT A LOT OF EXPERTISE IN THE AGENCIES.  NEED TO DEVELOP IT, MAY NOT HAVE A UNIFORM METHOD.
NICHOLAS:  WHY DOESN’T AAND I TRAIN THE AGENCY PERSONNEL INSTEAD OF CREATING MORE GOVERNMENT?
FAUSSET: THAT IS WHAT THESE TWO POSITIONS ARE FOR?  ANOTEHR RESOURCE
NICHOLAS: HOW DID YOU QUANTIFY THE WORK TO KNOW TWO POSITIONS ARE NEEDED?
FAUSSET: CAN’T ANSER IF WE NEED OEN OR TWO.  BUDGET DIVISION DOES NOT HAVE STAFF OR EXPERTISE TO DO THAT.  
TURNED BACK TO CHAIRMAN BEBOUT
12/17/2014 8:31:37 AM
FAUSSET: PG 18 AND 19 – UTILITIES.  AANDI HAS EXPERIENCED RATE INCREASE PASSED ON BY CHEYENNE LIGHT FUEL AND POWER AND BOARD OF PUBLIC UTILITIES.  WATER RATES INC BY 3.5 %, SEWER BY 7 %.  18 MONTHS OF BIENNIUM.  POWER RATE INC OF 13%, 4% FOR GAS TOOK EFFECT IN OCTOBER.  21 MONTHS OF BIENNIUM.  PURCHASED ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS. 671,000 ADDITIONAL MONEY REQUESTED
STUBSON: BUDGET CUTS TWO YEARS AGO CAME FROM UTILITES.  DOES THIS JUMP US BACK TO WHERE WE WERE BEFORE CUTS?
FAUSSET:  YES, PART OF REDUCTION.  500,0000 REDUCTION. CARRYING AN EXCESS AT THAT TIME.  
STUBSON:  IDELMAN MANSION IN NARRTIVE, CAPITOL HILL BUILDING, HOW MUCH DUE TO NEW BUILDING?
FAUSSET:  DO NOT HAVE DATA IDELMAN 11000 PER YEAR.
BURNS: CORRESPONDING DECREASE FOR CAPITOL BUILDING?
FAUSSET: DO NOT KNOW AT THIS TIME.
BURKHART: WILL WE OCCUPY THE SHADER FUNERAL HOME?
FAUSSET: THAT IS OUR INTENT..POTENTIONALLY GOV OFFICE
12/17/2014 8:37:18 AM
FAUSSET:  PG 22  DIGITIZING INFORMATION STATE LIBRARY.   40,000 TO DIGITIZE WYOMING SESSION LAWS, WOULD COMPLETE THAT LIBRARY, JOURNALS OR DIGESTS FROM FIRST TERRITORIAL SESSION UNTIL THE PRESENT, SEARCHABLE AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. AG, SC, LIBRARY, LSO ARE STAKEHOLDERS.  75 ROLLS OF MICROFICHE OF ENROLLED ACTS, VETOED BILLS WOULD BE DIGITIZED AN LINKED TO ORIGINAL BILLS, CROSS –REFERENCED.  PRIORITY NUMBER 3
NICHOLAS:  HIRING SOMEONE, COST?
FAUSSET: CONTRACT THE SERVICES.
NICHOLAS: NO IN HOUSE SERVICES AVAILABLE?
STATE LIBRARIAN: DO NOT HAVE IN HOUSE EQUIPMENT. DOCUTECH VENDOR IS COST EFFECTIVE. ONE TIME REQUEST.  
NICHOLAS:  WHY BROUGHT AS SUPPLEMENTAL INSTEAD OF REGULAR?
LIBRARIAN: NOT AWARE AT THE TIME THAT ENROLLED ACTS WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL BILL JACKETS.
BURNS: WHY IS THIS WITH STATE LIBRARY AND NOT ARCHIVES
LIBRARIAN: LSO APPROACHED US, WE OWN SOFTWARE, ARE EXPERTS IN DIGITIZING, REP PATTON.
12/17/2014 8:43:22 AM
FAUSSET; REMAINDER OF BUDGET IS CAP CON.
BEBOUT: GO THROUGH BUDGETS ON CAP CON,
MULDROW; PG 27 FLEW CONTINGENCY FUND.  RISING COST OF CONSTRUCTION FOR ALL AGENCIES 3.7 M FROM GF TO REPLENISH THAT ACCOUNT.  EX: CAPITAL HILL PROJECT.  UTILITY COST INCREASE.  UPGRADES TO SYSTEM…
HASTERT:  WHY THE MAGIC IN THE NUMBER?
MULDROW: ORIGINAL AMOUNT PUT IN THAT BUDGET.  SO WE ARE REPLENISHING
BEBOUT: PUT IN WHEN, FIND OUT.
MULDROW: 2007-8
PERKINS:  INTENDED TO BE AN IMPRESS FUND, ALWAYS STAY AT 10 M. COST CREEP.
MULDROW; FUND FOR THAT PUROSE, NOT FOR THE CAPITAL PROJECT.  FUNDS USED FOR OTHER PROJECTS.  
HASTERT: HAS ACCT DRAWN DOWN IN THE PAST, NEED IN SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET?
MULDROW:  FUND WAS REPLENISHED IN 2011.  
NICHOLAS: PROVIDE A BREAKDOWN OF WHERE FUNDS WENT AND REASON. WHY SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET?
BEBOUT: SAME QUESTON.
MULDROW: HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST, MANAGED BY SBC.  SHARE WITH THEM THE REASON WHY FUNDS ARE USED, CAN GIVE 2 YEAR.  
12/17/2014 8:50:30 AM
MULDROW: PG 30 LCCC 3.5 M FROM PUBLIC FUNDS, AUTHORITY TO SPEND.
BEBOUT: WHEN WAS IT AUTHORIZED AND THERE IS MATHCING FUNDS?
MULDROW: NO MATCHING.  
BURNS: OTHER MONEY RAISED FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE, JUS AUTHORIZING THE SPENDING OF THE MONEY.
MULDROW: CORRECT
DOCKSTADER: WHERE FROM ORIGINALLY?
JOE SCHAFEER, PRESIDENT LCCC:  PRIVATE AND INSTITUTIONAL FUNDS FOR BOTH PROJECTS, DO NOT HAVE FULL FUNDING YET, TRING TO MOVE THROUGH PROCESS.  MIX OF LOCAL FUNDS AN PRIVATE GIFTS
BEBOUT: 25M – 
SCHAEFFER:  STUDENT CENTER AND FLEW TECH.  REDUCTIONS IN PROGRAMMING FOR OTHER PROJECT. OPTED NOT TO ASK FOR SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGETING.
BEBOUT: DIFFERENT DESIGN, CHANGES?
SCHAEFFER: REDUCED OVERALL SIZE AND SCOPE TO GET WITHIN BUDGET AVAILABLE.
BEBOUT: WILL MAKE IT WORTH WITHIN THE MONEY YOU HAVE?
SCHAEFFER: THAT IS OUR INTENT.
BURNS: ENDOWMENT MATCH?
SCHAEEFER: FULLY MATCHED
12/17/2014 8:54:41 AM
MULDROW:  RENOVATD SPACE AT LCCC, 3.4 M SPENDING AUTHORITY ONLY.
12/17/2014 8:55:07 AM
MULDROW: GILLETTE 150 BED RESIDENT, AUTHORIZATION ONLY, FULLY FUNDED FROM PUBLIC FUNDS 10 M, AUTHORIZATION ONLY
BURNS:  OTHER FUNDS COULD BE PRIVATE DONATIONS?  ANY FUNDS OTHER THAN STATE?
MULDROW: CORRECT PG 41. NWCCC RENOVATION, SPENDING AUTHORITY, OTHER FUNDS. 16 M
MULDROW: GRIFFITH MEMORIAL RENOVATION AND COMMUNITY WELLNESS DOME PROJECT.  REMOVED FROM THE LIST. AT COLLEGE’S REQUEST.
BURNS: CHERLY HEATH IS HERE.
HEATH:  VP OF CFO, NWCC – AT TIME REQUESTS WERE SUBMITTED , EXPECTED FUNDS BUT DECIDED TO FUN 100% OF WHITNEY AND HALF OF TECHNICAL CENTER WHICH IS AT LEVEL 2. GILLETE COLLEGE HOUSING 85% FROM CITY OF GILLETE AND 15% FROM HOUSING.
12/17/2014 8:58:40 AM
MULDROW: SHERIDAN COLLEGE 50/50 STATE AND LOCAL FUNDING 6.5 M EACH.  
BEBOUT: 6.5 M OF GF
MULDROW:  RECOMMENDED ONLY LEVEL 2 FUNDS, AUTHORIZATION FOR LEVEL 2 FUNDING.
STUBSON:  PLANNING FUNDS..HISTORICALLY, REQUIRED A MATCH ON THE PLANNING FUNDS?
MULDROW:  NO, WE HAVE NOT ASKED FOR MATCHING FUNDS FOR THAT IN THE PAST.
BURNS: 1% FOR ARTISTIC - DOES MATCH GO TO THAT?
MULDROW: 1 % ON THE PORTION THAT WE FUND THE 6.5.
12/17/2014 9:00:51 AM
MULDROW: PG 54 CASPER COLLEGE VISUAL ARTS REMODEL.  MATCHING FUNDS OF 5.5M EACH GF AND PUBLIC.  ASKING FOR 300,000 TO DO LEVEL PLANNING
MULDROW: CWC – JACKSON OUTREACH CENTER – 
CHRIS VALDEZ – NEW PRESIDENT AT CWC 340,000 LEVEL 2 PLANNING,  NEEDS AS FTE ENROLLMENT HAS INCREASED TO 480. ISSUES WITH HOUSING AND SPACE FOR INSTRUCTION.  
HARSHMAN
VALDEZ; 248 FTE, K-12. 479 FTE.
HARSHMAN: HALF ARE HS KIDS AT JACKSON, DO YOU NEED FACILITY PIECE FOR HS KIDS? WHAT ARE YOU CURRENTLY DOING?
VALDEZ: NOT FOR HS BUT FOR OTHERS, CULINARY ARTS OUTGROWING KITCHEN , NEEDS FOR THAT
HARSHMAN: THIS BUILDING IS MAINLY FOR CULINARY ARTS?
VALDEZ:  PRIMARILY CULINARY ARTS BUT ALSO LAB AND INSTRUCTION
BLIKRE: DO YOU HAVE A SITE?
VALDEZ: LAND LEASED FROM CENTER OF ARTS , SHARED SPACE, LOOKING ELSEWHERE. MOST PROMISING IS CENTER OF THE ARTS. 
BEBOUT:  REAL ESTATE EXPENSIVE,
DOCKSTADER: PARTNERED WITH RESORTS AND ELKS,  
VALDEZ:  SEVERAL OPTIONS.  SWITCHING OUR DELIVERY TO MEET WITH OFF-SEASON IN JACKSON. DURING HIGH SEASON, STUDENTS WILL DO INTERNSHIPS OR WORK. 
CONNOLLY: OTHER KINDS OF PROGRAMMING, DUAL AND CONCURRENT ENROLMENT. WHAT ABOUT FILM STUDIES?  
VALDEZ:  NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES, CULINARY, HOSPITATLITY, NURSING, ARE NEED NOW.  THEATER, ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE, LIMITED BY SPACE AND HOUSING, WORKING WITH PRIVATE INVESTORS.
CONNOLLY: AGREEMENT WITH TETON COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS?
VALDEZ:  NO FORMAL AGREEMENTS, EXPLORATION OF OPPORTUNITIES.  
BEBOUT: IN PAST RANKED PROJECTS.  2011 CASPER COLEGE AND CWC AG COMPLEX.  LEVEL 2 STUDY, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME.  
VALDEZ:  AG PROGRAM.  COULD MOVE FORWARD AS MASTER PLAN.  HAVE LAND PURCHASED. LEVEL 2 FUNDING WOULD BE APPROPRAITE.
BEBOUT: DON HAVE COMMITTEE LOOK AT IT.
NICHOLAS: WANTS COMMENTS FROM COMMUNITY COLLEGE. 
RICHARDS: COMMISSION WAS REMOVED FROM THE PROCESS TWO YEARS AGO.
 MULDROW:  DECISIONS MADE AT COMMISSION LEVEL. 
12/17/2014 9:14:06 AM
MULDROW:  PAGE 24, CAPCON, DAIRY BARN FOR STATE FAIR
CHAPMAN:  BUILDINGS NEED TO BE RAZED; NOT WORTH PUTTING MONEY INTO
MULDROW:  DESIGN WORK FOR STATE FAIR GROUNDS
GOODRICH:  NUMEROUS REQUESTS TO ADDRESS APPEARANCE OF ENTIRE STATE FAIR GROUNDS.  
COOK:  ENTERPRISE ACCOUNTS, 455, OFF-SEASON EVENTS, $1 MILLION BALANCE, HOWEVER USED FOR LAND PURCHASE, ADDITIONAL UTILITY COSTS FOR CAMPGROUND.  UPDATE MASTER PLAN.  
PERKINS:  CONFUSED
CHAPIT:  $100,000 FOR LEVEL I AND II DESIGN, COMBINED FACILITY FOR DAIRY BARN 
MULDROW:  LAW ENFORCEMENT ACADEMY PRACTICAL SKILLS.  LEVEL III DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION 
HARRIS:  FORFEITURE FUNDS, SPENDING AUTHORITY INCREASE.  $1.5 MILLION IN FORFEITURE FUNDS ACCOUNT.
MULDROW:  UNIVERSITY OF WYOMING.  ENGINEERING BUILDING
BOSWELL:  $4 MILLION MOVED FROM ENGINEERING BUILDING FUND FOR HIGH BAY FACILITY.  $49 MILLION BUDGET FOR HIGH BAY FACILITY.  MOVE $2.4 MILLION FROM FINISHED PROJECT IN SWEETWATER COUNTY TO HIGH BAY FACILITY.
BURNS:  $100,000 BUDGET ITEM FOR ART IN ENGINEERING BUILDING…PARAMETERS FOR PURCHASE?
BOSWELL:  I GET TO MAKE DECISION
BOSWELL:  $3 MILLION FOR LEVEL II PLANNING FUNDS FOR NEW LAB
BEBOUT:  WHY NOT FIX OLD LAB FIRST INSTEAD OF BUILDING NEW LAB?
MULDROW:  CAPITOL SQUARE RENOVATION UPDATE.  $259 MILLION ORIGINAL COST.  CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK TRYING TO MATCH PRICES AGAINST DESIGN ESTIMATE AND SCHEDULE.  WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL $27 MILLION POTENTIALLY, BASED ON LEASE SPACE INCREASE DUE TO MOVING 50%, NOT 25% OF HERSCHLER BUILDING EMPLOYEES.  FORMER LIQUOR COMMISSION BUILDING STUDIED INTENSELY.  HERSCHLER BUILDING OUTER SKIN REMOVAL AND ROOF DAMAGE REPAIR AND SOME STRUCTURAL DAMAGE REPAIR AN ADDITIONAL $14.8 MILLION
ROSS:  NOT FULL 3 YEARS, BUT POTENTIALLY 3 LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS.  ALL LEASE CONTRACTS HAVE 90 DAY OUT PERIOD.  
BEBOUT:  ON TIME AND ON BUDGET DOABLE?
MULDROW:  DON’T KNOW YET.  WOULD LIKE TO GIVE UPDATES ON COST ESTIMATES AND SCHEDULE DURING SESSION.  
12/17/2014 10:47:14 AM
MEETING CALLED TO ORDER
CHAIRMAN BEBOUT:  DFS, STEVE CORSI
CORSI:  THANKS TO COMMITTEE.  SANG NATIONAL ANTHEM LAST YEAR.  CHAIRMAN – CONGRATULATIONS AS COACH AND TO SON FOR FOOTBALL RECOGNITION.  
HARHSMAN:  GREAT KIDS AND GOOD STAFF – TEAM 
BEBOUT:  CONGRATULATIONS TO STEVE
CORSI:  CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT IS STILL NUMBER 1.  OUTPERFORMING ALL OTHER STATES AND THREE TERRORITIES.  2.  CLOSE TO #1 IN REPEAT OF MAL TREATMENT OF CHILDREN IN FOSTER CARE.  1 TENTH OF 1% IN WYOMNIG  3. ONE OF LEADERS IN OVERALL CHILD SAFETY FOR CHILDREN IN AND OUT OF SYSTEM
CORSI:4.  COMPLAINTS IN PAST, CUSTOMER SERVICE HAVE DECREASED.  5. PUSHING FOR SELF SUFFICIENY OF CLIENTS AND ECONOMIC SUSTAINABILITY. 6.  HAVE ADDED HOMELESSNESS TO THE DEPT.   HAVE BROKEN GROUND ON NEW BLDG IN WORLAND – BOYS SCHOOL.  INITIAL STEPS OF WEST PHASE 2 (PHASE 1 WAS MEDICAID ELIGIBILITY AND SUCCESSFUL) FOR SUPPLAMENTAL -TANAF….WILL BE BULD BY SAME GROUP. GIRLS SCHOOL STUDENT RECEIVED THE START FROM SCRATCH AWARD…WANT TO AFFIRM ONGOING SUPPORT OF STATE FOR GIRLS AND BOYS SCHOOL. CORSI READ LETTER FROM 71 YEAR OLD MAN ABOUT RELATIVE IN BOYS SCHOOL.  
HARSHMAN: ENROLLMENT AT BOYS SCHOOL
CORSI: 92 LAST WEEK
HARSHMAN: AVG STAY
CORSI: JUST OVER 6 MONTHS
HARSHMAN: GIRLS SCHOOL
CORSI: LAST I KNEW WAS  MID 30’S AND 8 MONTH AVG STAY,  AVG 7 MONTH STAY AT BOYS SCHOOL
MEIER: SCHOOL ACCESS TO INFORMATION, REGULATED BY COURTS? INTERDISCIPLINARY TEAMS.  WY HAS HIGH DROP OUT RATE.  DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO EDUCATIONAL RECORDS TO IDENTIFY DROP OUT STUDENTS? 
CORSI:  REPHRASE
MEIER:  ANY REPORT THAT YOU GET FROM ED DEPT OR RECORDS TO BE PROACTIVE ON DROP OUT OR TRUANT STUDENTS..?
CORSI: DO NOT GET A REPORT.  IF A 10TH GRADER WENT TRUANT FOR 2 OR 3 WEEKS, WE DO NOT GET A REPORT.  WE COULD WORK WITH SUPERINTENDENT BAILOR IF WE COULD ACCESS THAT. WHEN WYOMING MILITARY PRESENTS TO THIS COMMITTEE, I THINK THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT QUESTION BECAUSE OF THE WYOMING CHALLENGE ACADEMY. WE WORK TOGETHER TO GET STUDETNS ENGAGED.  
MEIER: TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET INTO PROCESS EARLIER.  
CORSI: ADUDICATED DELINQUIENT.  CONVERSATIONS WITH DISTRICT COURT JUDGES BECAUSE OF DECLINING ENROLLMENT AT GIRLS SCHOOL, ENROLLING CHIN POPULATION.  MORE PREVENTIVE, LESS REACTIVE
12/17/2014 11:04:14 AM
ESQUIBEL:  KIDS BETWEEN 18 AND 21, DOC BEDS FOR FEMALE POPULATION, FOSTER CARE. ARE YOU SEEING ANY MORE POSSIBILITY FOR THE STATE TO USE THOSE BEDS?
CORSI: GIRLS SCHOOL?
ESQUIBEL: GIRLS SCHOOL NOW, BOYS SCHOOL LATER.
CORSI:  CAN HAVE STUDENTS UP TO THE AGE OF 21, SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES, 
HARSHMAN: OCCUPANCY
CORSI: CAN TAKE UP TO 65 MANAGEMENT WISE
ESQUIBEL: COURTS WORKING ON PRISON DIVERSION PROGRAMS, 
12/17/2014 11:06:34 AM
BURNS: CAPACITY AT GIRLS SCHOOL.  REGULATION CHANGES ABOUT GIRLS SHARING ROOMS?
CORSI:  PREA- PRISON RAPE ELIMINATION ACT, STATE MOVING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT ACT. SINGLE ROOMS, EXTRA CAMERAS, KEEPING KIDS AS SAFE AS WE CAN FROM SEXUAL ASSAULT.
BURNS: ALL GIRLS IN SINGLE ROOMS OR BASED ON EVALUATION.
CORSI: RIGHT NOW ALL GIRLS ARE BECAUSE OF LOW POPULATION; DO NOT KNOW OF LONG TERM PLAN, MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION BECAUSE OF PREA.
12/17/2014 11:08:23 AM
CORSI: A LOT OF GOOD THINGS HAPPENING IN THE DEPT, SIGN REDUCTIONS OF EMPLOYEES AND DEPT BUDGET, REDUCED EMPLOYEES BY 93, NO DETRIMENT TO PROGRAMS OR SERVICE
12/17/2014 11:09:06 AM
CORSI: BUDGET PAGE 3  COLUMN 5 2.29m REQUESTED
BEBOUT: ALL GF?
CORSI: YES SIR.  PG 4 OUTLINES REQUEST.  PG 8 FIRST UNIT, PROTECTIVE SERVICES UNIT 5902.  101,350 REQUESTED. PART 1 OF 2 PART INC. REQUEST TO TRANSFER MONEY FROM 600 TO 590, REALIGN FUNDS. BOTTOM LINE IS NET TO ZERO. PG 12 UNIT 5903 COMMUNITY CRISIS BEDS 1+m. NARRATIVE.  12 CRISIS PROVIDERS ACROSS STATE. 97 BEDS AT $91 PER DAY… GOV AND DEPT SUPPORT REQUEST.  COMMUNITY NEEDS BEING UNMET. EXAMPLES GIVEN. JUDGE TYLER AND WALDRIP.  ONLY HAVE OUT-PATIENT COUNSELING, HAVE TO SEND OUT OF COMMUNITY FOR ANYTHING ELSE.  NEED ADDITIONAL SERVICES IN RAWLINS AREA.  
HARSHMAN: 1.29 m WOULD INC. BEDS TO?
CORSI:  NOT SURE OF ANSWER YET BUT WILL HAVE IT QUICKLY. DEPENDS ON NEEDS ASSESSMENT. LEGISLATURE APPROPRIATED FUNDING FOR 81 BEDS.  NEED TO DO MORE.  1.29M INCREASES DAILY RATES AND PROVIDES MORE BEDS.  
HARSHMAN: GET # TO US.
CORSI: 1.29 m CAME FROM CONVERSATION WITH GOV AND WYOMING YOUTH SERVICES.
BEBOUT: ONLY FOR 1 YEAR, WILL DOUBLE FOR BIENNIUM AND BE CONTINUINT
CORSI: YES
12/17/2014 11:17:35 AM
BURNS: APPRECIATE THE CATHEDRAL HOME.  WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN THERE IS NO OTHER FACILITY?  START FROM SCRATCH OR HIRE …WHAT ENDS UP IN RAWLINS AND SOUTHERN LINCOLN IF WE PASS THIS?
CORSI: ANY NUMBER OF FORMS, MOVE A COUPLE MORE BEDS TO RAWLINS.  SUBLETTE COUNTY, HIGH COUNTRY BEHAVIORAL LIFE SERVES COUNTY ON OUT-PATIENT BASIS. WORK WITH THAT PROVIDER WHO HAS THERAPAUTIC STAFF.
STUBSON:  IF WE DECIDE TO INC RATES BUT NOT BEDS, WHAT IS NUMBER?......
CORSI:  COMMITTEE AND LEGISLATURE WILL MAKE DECISIONS…1.29m TO INCREASE RATES ONLY, WOULD STILL HAVE PROBLEM ON OUR HANDS.  BETTER TO LOOK AT CAPACITY AND RATE INC.
STUBSON: I UNDERSTAND THAT.  OPTION INSTEAD OF ONE NUMBER.  RATE INCREASE ONLY FOR LESS THAN 1.29M
CORSI: ANYTHING OFFERED BY LEGISLATURE WOULD BE WELL RECEIVED.  AT 1.29M, YOUTH SERVICES DOCUMENT, FUNDING OF 1.29 m WOULD REACH 79%.  REMAINDER OF FUNDS IS MET IN OTHER WAY
12/17/2014 11:23:14 AM
HARSHMAN: AMOUNT
CORSI: 7m IS NUMBER,  
HARSHMAN:  71,000 PER BED X 8 BEDS SO ABOUT HALF OF THE 1.29 IS BEDS.
CORSI:  97 TO 141 PER DAY, IF RATE INCREASE ONLY.  IF WE ADDED 8 BEDS, WOULD COME DOWN.  ABOUT 89 INCREASE IF WE ADDED 8 BEDS AND INCREASED.  
PERKINS: 81 AT 97 PER DAY X 365  = HALF OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET.  WHAT IS THE SUGGESTED RATE WE SHOULD MOVE TO FOR DAILY BED RATE?  35000 TO 40000 TO FUND A BED FOR A YEAR.  WE HAVE UNDERSERVED AREAS, NOT SERVED AT ALL. SOME AREAS HAVE INSUFFICIENT SERVICES.  LIKE RAWLINS.  
CORSI:  YES SIR
PERKINS:  WHAT IS THE PLAN? HOW WILL IT BE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT IT IS NOW?
CORSI:  WE HAVE NOT MADE A REQUEST LIKE THIS WHERE WE HAVE NOT HAD A PLAN.  NEED INERNAL ANALYSIS FOR WHERE BEDS ARE NEEDED.  LINCOLN, RAWLINS, DOUGLAS HAS CRISIS BEDS IN CASPER. NO CRISIS BEDS IN GILLETTE.  GROUP HOME IN CONVERSE COUNTY STRIVING TO STAY IN BUSINESS. IF THEY LEAVE WE WILL HAVE NO CARE.  WHAT KIND OF TIME FRAME COULD WE HAVE TO GET THAT ANALYSIS DONE BEFORE JAC MAKES A RECOMMENDATION?
BEBOUT: BEFORE THE GENERAL SESSION BEGINS.
CORSI:  JANUARY 10?
12/17/2014 11:30:40 AM
MONIZ:  COMPLEX ISSUE.  AGENCIES PROVIDING SERVICE ARE BARELY SURVIVING.  WHAT WILL THESE PLACEMENTS DO.?  SOME HAVE BEEN OUT OF STATE AND NESTLED IN DEPT OF HEALTH BUDGET.  WOULD LIKE PROVIDERS IN THE AUDIENCE TO COMMENT.  
BEBOUT: APPROPRIATE.  37 BEDS FUNDED BY 1.29 m
SHARON WEBBER, CATHEDRAL HOMES FOR CHILDREN, OVERSEE CRISIS CENTER IN LARAMIE AND IN RAWLINS.
WEBBER: NO INCREASE SINCE 2008 FOR DAILY BED RATE BUT COSTS HAVE INCREASED.  
BEBOUT: NUMBER IN MIND?
WEBBER: 141 DAILY RATE. OUR REQUEST WAS FOR THE RATE INCREASE, NOT TO ADD BEDS. NEEDS TO BE SEPARATE CONVERSATION. DIFFICULT AND EXPENSIVE TO GET CRISIS CENTERS UP AND RUNNING.  CARBON COUNTY DID NOT HAVE ONE FOR 15 YEARS.  COUNTY BUILT AND FURNISHED THE BUILDING AND ALLOCATED MONEY FOR 3 YEARS FOR IT. I DO NOT SEE NEED FOR CRISIS BEDS IN CARBON COUNTY.  CONVERSE COUNTY/DOUGLAS HAS CRISIS BEDS ATTACHED TO THEIR GROUP HOMES
BURKHART: 141 PER DAY PROVIDES THAT THE RAWLINS CENTER REMAINS VIABLE.
WEBBER: WOULD HELP TREMENDOUSLY
MONIZ:  COURT PLACEMENTS?  IF NO AVAILABLE PLACEMENTS IN WYOMING, WHERE DO THESE INDIVIDULAS GO?
WEBBER:  CARBON COUNTY – UNAVAILABLE. NUMBER OF KIDS WHO GO INTO OUT OF HOME PLACEMENT INCREASES.  DECREASE IN KIDS COMING TO COURT FOR OUT OF HOME PLACEMENT AFTER CRISIS CENTER OPENED IN RAWLINS.
12/17/2014 11:36:47 AM
MEIER: 97 FOR AVAILAILABILTY - DIFFERENTIAL FOR OCCUPENCY
WEBBER: NO – JUST LIKE A HOSPITAL, NEED THE STAFF THERE.
MEIER: ECONOMIES OF SCALE FOR A START UP, WHICH ONES MAKE MONEY?
WEBBER: NONE OF THEM MAKE MONEY.  AGENCIES HAVE SOLD BUILDINGS, DECREASED HEALTH INSURANCE FOR EMPLOYEES, AND CUT NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, MEET THE RULES BUT NO EXTRA THERE.  LOOK AT EVERY COST EVERY YEAR.  
MEIER
BURNS:  ?
WEBBER: INC TO 97 WAS FROM 91 SO SMALL INCREASE.  CAME TO 141 BY LOOKING AT NAVIGANT STUDY, PULLING OUT NON-ALLOWABLE COSTS, TOOK A MEDIAN OF THAT.  
BURNS:  RAISE IN 2008 WAS INADEQUATE?
WEBBER: YES
12/17/2014 11:41:29 AM 
HARSHMAN: OCCUPANCY RATE
CORSI:  AVG RATE 52% - FOR ENTIRE STATE.
HARSHMAN: AREAS OF WIDE VARIABILITY?
CORSI:  CAMPBELL COUNTY, GILLETTE HAS ABOVE 100%.  STANDARDIZATION ISSUE.  
HARSHMAN: SHARE THE INFO
CORSI: HAPPY TO SHARE WYSI DOCUMENT PROVIDED
BEBOUT:  SPREAD OCCUPANCY TO BE FAIR.
CORSI:  THIN MARGINS SO DO NOT WANT TO GIVE UP NUMBER OF BEDS BASED ON OCCUPANCY
12/17/2014 11:44:22 AM
BEBOUT: CONF CALL AT NOON ABOUT EDUCATION.  PEOPLE WAITING TO TESTIFY.
RICHARDS: CHAIRS OF EDUCATION AND JAC ABOUT RECALIBRATION IN CONFERENCE CALL.
BEBOUT:  TELL HARRY WE WILL START AT 12:30 FOR WATER DEVELOPMENT, WRAP UP AT NOON FOR DFS
12/17/2014 11:45:36 AM
CORSI:  PG 17 18000 INC IS PART OF TRANSFER OF APPROPRIATION, 120,000 OFFSET.  PG 23 – 37000 REDUCTION OUT OF WELFARE REFORM,  37000 OUT OF SAME 120000. PG 28 SEE THE OTHER 820000 OUT OF SNAP UNIT.  
CORSI:  PG 24 WELFARE REFORM 1M IN STATE GF TO DEVELOP, ENHANCE PROGRAM FOR JOB TRAINING FOR TANIF ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS.  PART OF PUSH TO MAKE PEOPLE SELF-SUSTAINABLE. USE CLIMB WYOMING AS SINGLE MOTHER PROGRAM.  1040 PRIOR TO PROGRAM MADE 2400 POST PROGRAM IN CLIMB WYOMING.  IF YOU KEEP PEOPLE IN JOB ONE YEAR, INCOME WILL DOUBLE IN THE NEXT 5 YEARS.  NATIONAL STATISTIC.  46% OF CLIMB EMPLOYED BEFORE PROGRAM. POST 2 YEARS, 76%.  52 % DOWN TO 31% ON FOOD STAMPS AND BENEFITS DECREASED.  WANT TO FOCUS ON SINGLE MOMS, WHICH IS LARGEST CATEGORY IN STATE.  OFFERED ON A 1 TO 1 MATCH THROUGH GRANTS.  WILL HAVE TO RAISE ONE PRIVATE DOLLAR TO ACCESS ONE OF OUR DOLLARS.
BURNS: SINGLE MOTHERS ONLY?
CORSI: YES..LEGISLATURE HAS ESTABLISHED MONEY IN OUR DFS BUDGET FOR FATHERHOOD PROGRAM, DADS MAKING A DIFFERENCE, FATHER FACTOR.  PERCENTAGES OF FUNDING VS. HEAD OF FAMILIES WILL BE MADE EQUAL BY THIS 1 M.
BEBOUT: WHO WILL DO THE MATCHING?
CORSI:  WE WILL CONTRACT WITH THE PROVIDERS FROM PRIVATE DONATIONS, NOT GOVT MONEY
BEBOUT: DO WE DO IT NOW?  TANIF? HAVE NOT DONE IT IN THE PAST?
CORSI:  NO.  
NICK: WE HAVE OTHER CONTRACTS THAT REQUIRE A MATCH, WILL NOT IMPACT TANIF.  RFP REQUEST THAT WILL OUTLINE A MATCH OR OUTLINE A ZERO MATCH.
BEBOUT: OUTLINE THE TANIF FUND FOR MATCH VS NONMATCH
ROSS: ONGOING 1 M AND DOUBLE FOR BIENNIUM. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE MONEY IF YOU DO NOT GET MATCH?
CORSI:  REVERT TO LEGISLATURE IF NOT DRAWN DOWN.  TANIF INFO..MATCHING PORTION WILL BE A SMALL PERCENTAGE BUT WOULD LIKE TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.
NICHOLAS:  WHO ADMINISTERS?  WHO PAYS? WHAT PART OF STATE?  LIKE A WISH LIST.  PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION BEFORE THE SESSION
CORSI:  RPF OR APPLICATION PROCESS, ASSUME CLIMB WYOMING, ASSUME OTHER ENTITIES.  
NICHOLAS: LOTS OF PROGRAMS FOR SINGLE MOTHERS.  WHAT IS AVAILABLE TO THEM?  
CORSI:  AS DIRECTOR, I CAN SAY CLIMB WYOMING IS THE SINGLE BEST USE OF TAXPAYERS, GF RESOURCES IN STATE OF WYOMING WITH REGARD TO OUTCOMES.  IF THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT CAN PROVIDE THOSE OUTCOMES, WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH THEM
BEBOUT:
CORSI:  WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF SIMPLYFING OUR BUDGETS INTERNALLY.  NEXT YEAR, OUR BUDGETS WILL LOOK DIFFERENT AND BE MORE UNDERSTANDABLE
BEBOUT:  RANK STATES RELATIVE TO TANIF PARTICIPATION, WYOMING WAS THE LARGEST, LOOK INTO THAT.
12/17/2014 11:57:07 AM CLOSE MEEETING   BACK AT 1230. 
12/17/2014 12:37:52 PM
029 WATER DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
LABONDE:  SUPPLEMENTAL REQUEST $18.6 FUNDING FOR ACCOUNT II; GILLETTE MADISON PROJECT AML FUNDS NOT AVAILABLE.  PAGE 6, ACCOUNTS I, II AND III.  ACCOUNT II REVENUES OF $6.2 MILLION ANNUALLY.  PAGE 7, 7 PROJECTS THAT ARE DESIGNATED AS LARGE DOLLAR REHABILITATION.  PART OF A DRAFT CONSTRUCTION BILL WHICH CONTAINS A SPECIAL CONDITION OF FUNDING BEING APPROVED AND RECEIVED.  ACCOUNTS I, II AND III FINANCIAL INFO DETAILED.  
BURNS:  ACCOUNT I AND II?
LABONDE:  ACCOUNT I IS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, ACCOUNT II IS FOR REPLACE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE OLDER THAN 15 YEARS.
LABONDE:  WATER INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT ACCOUNTS TO MANAGE WYOMING’S WATER ASSETS, SUCH AS FONTENELLE RESERVOIR, HIGH SAVERY DAM AND RESERVOIR, BUFFALO BILL DAM AND RESERVOIR, TO PROVIDE DEBT SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE COSTS.  ACCOUNTS ON PLATTE RIVER IMPLEMENTATION, 
LABONDE:  USFWS NEEDS WATER TO CREATE HABITAT FOR WHOOPING CRANES, PIPING PLOVERS AND LEAST TERNS AND STURGEON.
GREEAR:  ARE PROJECTS PRIORITIZED?
LABONDE:  NO, LEGISLATURE CAN PRIORITIZE OR SELECT WATER/WWDC SPECIAL MEETING
PAGE 3, BUFFALO BILL DAM, PATHFINDER MODIFICATION, FONTENELLE RESERVOIR, HIGH SAVERY DAM AND RESERVOIR, PALISADES RESERVOIR, GLENDO RESERVOIR 
HARSHMAN:   HOW MUCH MONEY IS NEEDED IN ACCOUNT?
LABONDE:  LET BALANCE GROW ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO, DIRECTED BACK TO ACCOUNT I BY STATUTE
LABONDE:  GILLETTE MADISON PROJECT.  $12.4 MILLION FUNDS STILL DUE BY STATE OF WYOMING TO THIS PROJECT. NEEDED BY FY 2016, STARTS IN JULY 2015.  
LABONDE:  600 AND 900 SERIES EXPENDITURES.
12/17/2014 1:33:43 PM
KING:  DOLLARS NEEDED TO FINISH GILLETTE PROJECT.  
ESQUIBEL:  WORKING WITH TRIBES IN GOVERNOR’S WATER STRATEGY?
LABONDE:  YES, 2 FEASIBILITY PROJECTS TO SITE TWO STORAGE PROJECTS,  ON-GOING
12/17/2014 1:39:56 PM
024 STATE PARKS AND CULTURAL RESOURCES
SIMPSON:  INTRO OF STAFF.  PAGE 5, $1.3 MILLION REQUESTS, SOME ONE-TIME, SOME ON-GOING.  GOOD YEAR FOR AGENCY.  CULTURAL RESOURCES DIVISION, ARTIFACTS; CONSERVING WYOMING’S HERITAGE.  TO HIRE SOMEONE TO PERFORM PRESERVATION.
LOUISE:  CONSERVATORS BID ON OBJECTS TO BE CONSERVED.  NEED IMMEDIATE CARE, MAINLY DUE TO AGE.
CONNOLLY:  HOW MANY OBJECTS?
SIMPSON:  40-50 OBJECTS, BASED ON CONDITION AND VALUE
SIMPSON:  CULTURAL RESOURCES, PAGE 12, CONFERENCE FOR 125TH STATE ANNIVERSARY IN LARAMIE.
BEBOUT:  FEE?
SIMPSON:  YES, GUEST SPEAKERS
HOPKINS:  UNDER $100/PERSON
SIMPSON:  PAGE 16, CULTURAL RESOURCES, STATE-WIDE ARTS COUNCIL.  ONE TIME REQUEST EVERY BIENNIUM.
SIMPSON:  PAGE 21, TRAILS PROGRAM.  FUND NEW SNOWMOBILE/ORV PERMIT TRACKING SYSTEM TO GROOM TRAILS.  $231,000 ONE-TIME FUNDING, $57,000 PER BIENNIUM DATA SERVER STORAGE.  RECENTLY RAISED STICKER FEE TO HELP SUPPORT GROOMING COSTS.  
SIMPSON:  PAGE 27, STATE PARKS OPERATING COSTS.  HAD TO REDUCE SEVERAL SITES TO LIMITED SERVICES; HAVE ATTEMPTED TO RESOLVE OVER PAST 12 YEARS.  
BEBOUT:  ELIMINATE SOME SITES DUE TO LIMITED VISITATION?
SIMPSON:  YES.  
GREEAR:  WHERE DO FEES SHOW UP IN FINANCIAL PICTURE?
BURNS:  BILL TO ALLOW STATE PARKS TO USE UP TO 25% OF ENTRY FEES FOR O&M THIS COMING SESSION.
BLIKRE:  FEES APPROPRIATE?
SIMPSON:  YES, SOME WHERE DOUBLED, OR RAISED 30%.  REGIONAL ENTRY FEES
WESTERFIELD:  $2 MILLION ANNUALLY REVENUE
BURNS:  BILL FOR NEW HISTORIC SITE, QUEBEC 1
SIMPSON:  QUEBEC 1 MISSILE ALERT FACILITY IN LARAMIE COUNTY.  FEE WOULD BE CHARGED, WILL TAKE SEVERAL YEARS FOR MILITARY TO COMPLETE TRANSFER.  START UP APPROPRIATION WILL BE REQUESTED, UNDER $200,000.
12/17/2014 2:24:58 PM
077 DEPARTMENT OF ENTERPRISE TECHNOLOGY
12/17/2014 2:35:49 PM
ENTERPRISE TECHNOLOGY SERVICES – FLINT WATERS
WATERS:  ZERO BASED BUDGET.  SINGLE SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET REQUEST, MOVING OF HERSHCHLER DATA CENTER FOR CAPITAL RENOVATION. 1M REQUESTED. SAVING OFF OF ORIGINAL.  ALL OF THE STATE SERVERS AND DATA CENTER EQUIPMENT IS EMPTY. HAVE 9 NETWORK RACKS IN BLDG WHICH WILL STAY THERE.  WE MADE OUR DEADLINE.  NEED TO REMOVE SOME POWER LINES.  MOVING SYSTEMS INTO GREENHOUSE DATA, WHICH IS DATA FACILITY.  
NICHOLAS: TERM OF CONTRACT WITH GREENHOUSE? OTHER SERVICES?
WATERS: 3 YEAR CONTRACT, SOLELY FOR DATA SERVICES, BID OUT AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR FOR THE SECOND SITE.
12/17/2014 2:41:07 PM
BURNS: WHY A QUARTER OF A MILLION FOR A TRACKING SYSTEM FOR SNOWMOBILES?
WATERS:  DIFFERENT COSTS,  BUILDING COSTS VS. MAINTENANCE COSTS OF PARKS AND REC. REQUEST VS.  AP SYSTEM AT AANDI.
BURNS: USED FOR OTHER TRACKING ?
WATERS:  CREDENTIALING  SYSTEM TO LEVERAGE CODE. SO QUOTE IS TO EXTEND ONTO THE ITEMS BUILT INTO THE CREDENTIALING.  IT WAS 1.2 M TO BUILD THE SYSTEM FROM REQUEST.
12/17/2014 2:43:12 PM
HARSHMAN:  TIRED…MULTIPLE REQUESTS FROM AGENCY’S FOR SOFTWARE, ETC.  SYNERGY.  WHY NOT PUT UW ON THE WOLFE SYSTEM?
WATERS: SYSTEMS THAT TRY TO BE ALL THINGS TO ALL PEOPLE FAIL.  ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING SYSTEMS WAS TREND IN THE PAST.  STUDIES INDICATE THAT 70% OF THOSE FAIL.  BIGGEST TREND NOW IS SMALLER SYSTEMS FOCUSED ON NEED BEING ADDRESSED BUT WITH CONSIDERABLE INTEROPERABILITY. IF NEEDS TO INTERACT WITH WOLFE, WILL BUILD THAT COMMUNICATION IN.
WATERS: IN THE PAST THE STATE DID IT IN A SILO SYSTEM.  WE HAVE TAKEN STEPS TO MOVE PAST THAT.  EX: AUTHENTICATING A USER WIL NOT VARY BETWEEN SYSTEMS SO BUILD ONCE.
HARSHMAN: UW DOES NOT HAVE TO RUN THROUGH YOU., UNLESS WE SAY THEY DO.
WATERS:  UW IS SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED.  
STUBSON:  DIFFERENT SYSTEMS?
WATERS: CORRECT 
12/17/2014 2:49:00 PM
BURNS:  AANDI TAKING TWO OF YOUR POSITIONS.  DO YOU AGREE THAT IT IS TWO?  
WATERS:  YES, POSITIONS ARE LISTED SEPERATELY.  
BURNS: WOULD THOSE POSITIONS HAVE BEEN FUNDED TO YOUR AGENCY?
WATERS: THEY ARE COST RECOVERY POSITIONS.  ONLY RECEIVE SPENDING AUTHORITY FOR IT.  PLANNED TO SUBMIT FOR CLOSURE DURING NEXT BIENNIUM.
BURNS: TWO NONFUNDED POSITIONS
WATERS: CORRECT,
HARSHMAN:  WE FUNDED SOME AGENCY OR IS IT SCATTERED THROUGHOUT STATE AGENCIES?  B-11 OUT OR ..SOME MONEY OUT THERE TO FUND THESE TWO.
WATERS: YES, COULD GO TO COMMISSIONS WHO PICK UP FUNDING ON OTHER SIDE, LIKE OIL AND GAS.  I MOVED A GF POSITION TO CASPER TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE COVERED.  THE OTHER WAS OUT OF DEPT OF HEALTH.  
ROSS:  WHY ARE WE TRANSFERRING POSITIONS? ISN’T IT REALLY JUST TWO NEW POSITIONS?
WATERS: DISCUSSION WITH GOVERNOR, SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH AANDI.
MEIER: IF YOU CREATE NEW POSITIONS IN AANDI, THEN YOU GET POSITION CREEP SO JUST ONE WAY TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT .  EX: ONE DIRECTOR TRANSFERRED POSTIONS BUT KEPT THE FUNDING.  NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS.  
12/17/2014 2:54:21 PM
HARSHMAN: IS THIS ALL THAT IS COMING FOR HERSCHLER?
WATERS: YES, SOME FROM EMERSON. HOPING NOT TO USE FULL AMOUNT APPROPRIATED.
HARSHMAN:  DON?  
RICHARDS:  REFERING TO THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, MOTION TO APPROVE MONEY TO ETS.  IN ADDITION IF SUCH FUNDS ARE EXPENDED THEN ETS SHALL PROVIDE A BUSINESS CASE TO JAC FOR ONGOING COSTS AND THE ONE TIME MOVING COSTS IN THE 2015 SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET REQUEST ALONG WITH ….IN ORDER TO DETERMINE IF FUNDS SHOULD BE REPAYED…
HARSHAMAN:  WILL NEED TO DISCUSS IN THE NEW YEAR
RICHARDS:  
WATERS:  WE DID THE MATH, IT IS NOT DOWN TO 1, 082,000
PERKINS; WILL WE REIMBURSE THE CAPITAL BUILDING ACCT WITH 1.082 INSTEAD OF 1.5?
HARSHMAN: WON’T COME BACK WITH ANOTHER SURPRISE OF 1.5 M?
WATERS: IF YOU DO NOT GIVE ME ANY OTHER MANDATES, I WILL NOT COME BACK FOR MONEY
HARSHMAN:  DON?
RICHARDS:  THE 2.3 m APPROPRIATED WILL BE RETURNED TO CAPITAL ACCT IF YOU APPROVE THIS 1 M.  IF NOT APPROVED,  NEED TO REQUEST. 
WATERS: DID NOT KNOW WE NEEDED TO PUT IN A SEPARATE RQUEST, KNEW WE NEEDED TO ASK FOR THE 1.5, CAME IN WITH REQUEST FOR LOWER AMOUNT OF 1.082.
HARSHMAN: DISCUSSION LATER. 
12/17/2014 2:59:30 PM
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.  12/17/2014 3:01:17 PM
ACTING CHAIRMAN PERKINS: WELCOME TO DIRECTOR FORSLUND
FORSLUND: COMMENTS..WE HAVE SUBMITTED FIVE REQUESTS , THREE REQUIRED BY STATUTE, ONE IS CONTINUTING REQUEST.  
FORSLUND:  BUDGETARY IMPLICATIONS OF ITEMS: 1. MEDICAID EXPANSION.  LAST SESSION LEGISLATURE ASKED FOR DRAFT OF A PLAN FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION. DID NOT SUBMIT BUDGETARY REQUEST IN SUPPLEMENTAL BECAUSE ANTICPATED REPURPOSING EXISTING FUNDS IN THE DEPT.  YESTERDAY VOTED NOT TO WORK IT.  VOTED ON A DIFFERENT PLAN, I DO NOT KNOW THE COST IMPACT.  I AM CERTAIN IT WILL BE MORE COSTLY THAN THE SHARE PLAN. I CAN’T MAKE A COMMITMENT ABOUT COSTS
FORSLUND: 2ND IS TITLE 25 – STATE HOSPITAL, COUNTY PAYS FIRST 72 HOURS. AFTER THAT THE HOSPITAL PAYS.  ..THROUGH NOV OF THIS YEAR, WE HVE EXPENDED 93% OF OUR BUDGET FOR THIS.  COSTS ARE RUNNING MUCH HIGHER.  IF TREND CONTINUS, WIL BE 15m OVER BUDGET.  WE DID NOT SUBMIT THE REQUEST BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE DONE IN THE SUMMER, DID NOT SEE IT COMING.   ATTEMPTING TO ABSORB IT . I DO NOT HAVE GOOD EXPLANATION FOR WHY IT IS SO HIGH AT THIS TIME.
12/17/2014 3:06:25 PM
STUBSON:  PEOPLE IN THE SYSTEM OR RATES?
FORSLUND: CORRECT PEOPLE IN THE SYSTEM
BURNS: JUNE 30
FORSLUND OF 16
BURNS: HOW MANY IN STATE HSOPITAL SO FAR.  
FORSLUND: THEY ARE IN FACILITIES IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATES. I DO NOT HAVE EXACT NUMBERS. I HAVE DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND PERCENTS NO NUMBERS.
BURNS:  IF YOU HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE BEING HELD PST THE 72 HOURS, WILL BE GETTIGN A RESPONSE FROM THE COUNTIES.  THEY WILL ASKF OR ADDITIONAL MONEY.
FORSLUND: I AM GIVING THE COMMITTEE A HEADS UP ON THIS REQUEST.  I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE ARE POCKETS ACROSS THE STATE. 
ROSS:  IF WE DON’T DEAL WITH IT IN THE SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET YOU WILL BE OUT OF MONEY.  
FORSLUND:  THE ISSUE WHY YOU DO NOT HAVE A REQUEST IS BECAUSE THE TIME TO SUBMIT IS SO EARLY IN THE BIENNIUM I DID NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION.  IF I DON’T HAVE A SUPPLEMENTAL REQUEST, WE WILL TRY TO ABSORB IT. IF WE CAN’T THEN I WILL OVEREXPEND MY BUDGET AND START OUT IN THE HOLE THE NEXT BIEENIUM.
PERKINS: WORKED WITH GOV OFFICER ON THIS?  15M IS A LOT OF MONEY.  WIL THERE BE A GOV LETTER.
FORSLUND: PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE GOV AND WILL HAVE MORE
PERKINS: ¼ OF BIENNIUM AND 93% OF BUDGETED MONEY SPENT
12/17/2014 3:11:18 PM
FORSLUND:  REALLOCATED VACANT POSITIONS WITHIN OUR DEPT TO ADDRESS PROBLEMS, HEALTH CARE, FACILITY OVERSIGHT, HIPA COMPLIANCE,…I NEED ADDITIONAL STAFFTO HELP IN THOSE AREAS.  I REALLOCTED VACANT POSITIONS TO THOSE AREA.  WILL NOT SEE IN THE BUDGET
PERKINS;
FORSLUND: UPDATE ON THE FACILITY MASTER PLANNING.  JOINT EXECUTIVE BRANCH LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT 5 FACILITIES OPERATED BYTHE DEPT OF HEALTH.  DID AN ASSESSMENT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, IDENTIFIED 151 m OF CAPITAL NEEDSA AT STATE HOSPITAL, STATE LIFE CENTER AND VETS HOME.  MADE A REQUEST TO SET MONEY ASIDE FOR THOSE NEEDS. BEFORE SPENDING, THOUGHT WE SHOULD LOOK AT ALL FIVE FACILITIES AND WHAT THEIR ROLE IS NAD THE ROLE OF STATE GOVT TO OPERATE THESE FACILITIES.  LOOK AT 20 YEAR PROJECTON.  FACIILTIES DEVELOPED FOR ONE PURPOSE AND HAVE EVOLVED OVER TIME INTO OTHER PURPOSES. IS IT APPROPRAITE FOR THE STATE TO OPERATE THESE FACILITIES.  Ex; EMERGENCY DETENTION COSTS, STATE HOSPITAL BEDS THAT SHOULD BE USED FOR ACUTE PATIENTS ARE TAKEN UP WITH LONG TERM CAREE- GERIATRIC NOT ACCEPTED BY LONG-TERM CARE PATIENTS.  SO LESS BEDS FOR ACUTE CARE. WHAT IS THE PROPER ROLE OF STATE GOVT AND OF THE FACILITIES?  COMPLETED PHASE 1 OF ASSIGNMENT AND REPORT SUBMITTED, PRESENTED TO LABOR,HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE.  LEGISLATURE WILL WORK THROUGH THE REPORT, TAKE STEPS TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO TAKE CARE OF REPAIRS…THAT IS COMING AND IT IMPACTS BUDGET REQUEST SUBMITTED
12/17/2014 3:16:55 PM
BEBOUT: DOCKSTADER AMENDMENT TO BUDGET BILL,  GO THROUGH SET ASIDE
FORSLUND: 35 m SET ASIDE IN RESERVE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.  
BEBOUT: 113 ABD 290, SET ASIDE, IN ADDITION TO?
FORLUND: 151 m IS NUMBER WE HAVE WORKED OFF OF ..35m HAS BEEN SET ASIDE.
BEBOUT:  113 AMD 35 DO NOT EQUAL 151
FORSLUND: NUMBER YOU ARE LOOKING AT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE VETS HOME.  
BEBOUT: 151 INCLUDES THE VETS HOME
FORSLUND: CORRECT
 BEBOUT:  
FORSLUND:  STATE HOSPITAL WYOMING LIFE CENTERS
BEBOUT. IS THE 113 INCLUDING THE 35
FORSLUND: YES BUT NOTHING FOR THE VETS HOME
BEBOUT: TASK FORCE HAS DONE JOB, NOW UP TO LEGISLATURE.  TIMING?
FORSLUND: REPORT SUBMITTED IN NOV, EXPECTED INTERIM WORK, COME BACK NEXT SESSION WITH LEGISLATIVE CHANGES.  FUNDING QUESTION.  I SUBMITTED REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL 30 M TO PUT MONEY ASIDE
BEBOUT:  DURING THE INTERIM WE WILL LOOK AT THESE THREE AND NOT EXPAND.  MOVE FORWARD THERE.  
FORSLUND: THAT IS WHAT I WOULD EXPECT.
BEBOUT: CO-CHAIRS’ THOUGHTS.
HARSHMAN:  I HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT THAT YET.  DOCKSTADER OUTLINED OPTIONS
DOCKSTADER: YES, NOT COMES BACK TO THIS BODY.
HARSHMAN: WILL HAVE TO BECOME MORE EDUCATED, BRING IT OUT IN THE NEW YEAR, AND LET THE BODY DECIDE
BEBOUT: GOV TURNED DOWN 30m
FORSLUND:  YES, HIS THOUGHT WAS WE DID NOT NEED IT AT THIS TIME.
HARSHMAN: LIKE MADISON AND CAPITOL
12/17/2014 3:23:33 PM
FORSLUND:  BUDGET REQUEST – PAGE 8 PRIORITY 2 REQUEST TO FUND A STUDY TO DETERMINE THE NEDED DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THE NEXT BIENNIUM.  REBASING EVERY TWO TO FOUR YEARS.  FIRST ONE SINCE 2011.  UNDERTAKE THE STUDY AND COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATION FOR REBASING IN THE NEXT SESSION.
STUBSON:  FEDERAL FUNDS THAT ARE HALF?
FORSLUND: COME OUT OF HEALTH CARE FINANCING . MEDICAID.
12/17/2014 3:25:33 PM
NICHOLAS:  STILL NOT PAYING THE LAST AMOUNT THAT WAS RECOMMENDED. IS THAT CORRECT?
FORSLUND: CORRECT. DEPT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SUBMITTING REQUESTS. IT IS UP TO THE LEGISLATURE ON WHAT TO FUND.  NEXT SESSION, IT IS UP TO LEGILATURE ON WHAT TO FUND. REBASING IS NEEDED, PROVIDERS NEED IT . I AM NOT IN A POSITION TO SAY HOW MUCH.  
NICHOLAS; TWO IN CHEYENNE CLOSED, ONE IN GILLETE, ONE WILL CLOSE…
FORSLUND: CLOSURES AND ANTICIPATED CLOSURES. TOTALLY BECAUSE OF FUNDING?..DO NOT KNOW . In GILLETTE, IT IS  DIFFICULT TO COMPETE WITH OTHER INDUSTRY FOR LABOR. 
NICHOLAS: UPDATE ON SUMMER DISCUSSIONS OF FLEXIBIITY FOR PROVIDERS ON RATIOS SO THEY CAN MANAGE FISCALLY TO OPERATE.
FORSLUND: HAVE MADE ADJUSTMENTS TO PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY, NOT AS STRINGENT AS BEFORE.  
NICHOLAS: FLEXIBILITY PROVIDED, WRITTEN OR ORAL
FORSLUND: IN WRITING, WILL PROVIDE
12/17/2014 3:28:46 PM
BEBOUT: IF DOING THE STUDY, NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR WHAT THE STUDY WILL SHOW, NEED FUNDS. BURN RATE OF ¼ MILLION A YEAR FOR ONE FACILITY.  BE PREPARED THAT MORE MONEY WILL BE NEEDED.  ….DEPT ASKING PROVIDERS TO DO MORE, BASED ON STATE OR FEDS?.  TO DO RIGHT, DO THE REBASING AND SEE WHAT THE DEPT CAN DO DIFFERENTLY TO SAVE MONEY.  FREMONT COUNTY – CASE MANAGERS.  FOR INSTANCE, UNITS WHERE THERE ARE 4 APTS, ONE PERSON FOR 8 HRS PER DAY FOR SURVEILLENCE, NOW 1 FOR EACH OF THESE UNITS.  HAVE QUADRUPLED THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PROVIDER FOR THAT.
FORSLUND:  NOT A STATE DRIVEN CHANGE.  THIS IS A NATIONALLY DRIVEN CHANGE.   FEDERAL INITIATIVE.  TRANSITIONING FROM OLD MODELS TO NEW MODELS.  SHELTERED WORKSHOPS.  MINI INSTITUTIONS.  HISTORY OF CHANGES. DE-INSTITUTIONALIZE INDIVIDUALS. LARGE GROUP HOMES WERE NEXT.  FEDS SAY INTEGRATE INTO COMMUNITY SO MAJOR TRANSITION IN INDUSTRY, DEPT OF HEALTH IS PASSING ON REGULATIONS WHICH HAVE BEEN PASSED ON TO US.  5 YEARS.
BEBOUT: SITUATIONS WHERE YOU CAN APPLY FOR WAIVERS? CMS?
FORSLUND:  IT IS ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS, WILL NOT WAIVE FOR AN ENTIRE STATE. WORKING ON THE SPECIFICS NOW.  IF WE HOPE TO CONTINUE TO RECEIVE FEDERALF UNDIGN WILL HAVE TO COMPLY.  FEDS SAY SMALL COMPANIES NEED HELP WITH TRANSITION OF BUSINESS MODEL. GRANT PROGRAM..GAVE 2 M WHICH IS NOT ENOUGH. STATE OF OUR SIDE NEEDS 4 M.  LOCAL PROVIDERS REMIND ME THAT YOU HAVE THE TRANSITION ISSUES.  THE OTHER SIDE IS THE COST TO OPERATE, HAVE NOT REBASED.  THE TRANSITION IS A LABOR BILL.
12/17/2014 3:36:28 PM
BEBOUT: SPEAK TO MY SPECIFIC EXAMPLE.  CAN YOU WORK THROUGH IT OR NO OPTON?
FORSLUND:  WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBIITY WITHIN VERY TIGHT CONSTRAINTS GIVEN TO US BY THE FEDERAL GOVT.  WE CAN ASK FOR WAIVERS, NOT OPTIMISTIC TO GET IT.  OR  DO LAWSUITS.
BEBOUT; ARE HERE NUMEROUS REGULATIONS THAT DO NOT MAKE SENSE?
FORSLUND: EACH PROVIDER WILL BE SOME WHAT UNIQUE.  PREMATURE TO SAY IT WILL NOT WORK.  
BEBOUT: REBASING AT 1.5%, HOW MUCH MONEY? TOTAL BUDGET FOR DD ADULT WAIVERS?
CHRIS NEWMAN, SENIOR ADMIN FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH: TRANSITIONING ADULTS TO COMPREHENSIVE WAIVER,  WILL GIVE DOCUMENT TO SHOW HOW BUDGET IS BEING SPLIT OUT.  ADULT DISABIITY NO LONGER EXISTS.  THEY ALL WENT TO COMPREHENSIVE
BEBOUT:  WHAT IS THAT BUDGET?
NEWMAN: NOV 390, 2014 BUDGET IS 147m.  
BEBOUT: 1.5% IS ABOUT 2.5 m.
NEWMAN: NOT TRANSITIONING CHILDREN OVER TO COMPREHENSIVE WAIVER
BEBOUT: MONEY TO FOLLOW KIDS?
NEWMAN: YES
BEBOUT: NEED TO REBASE BUT NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE MONEY.
12/17/2014 3:40:47 PM
REPRESENTATIVE LARSEN:  AS WE WORK WITH FACIITY DOWNSIZING, WILL PUT LARGER REQUIREMENT FOR COMMUNITY BASED SERVICES.  
NICHOLAS:  BOARD IN RIVERTON FOR THAT FACIITY- WHEN WE CREATED THE COMPREHENSIVE WAIVER, WE HAVE REDUCED THE BENEFITS SO WE ARE PAYOING LESS AND REQUIRING MORE.  PROVIDERS WIL GO OUT OF BUSINESS, ONES TAKING OVER, DO NOT PAY BENEFITS, PAY LESS WAGES, GO BELOW 50 EMPLOYEES TO NOT PROVIDE HEALTH CARE TO EMPLOYEES. WE HVE TO FIGURE OUT A MECHANISM TO PROPERLY FUND IT.
12/17/2014 3:43:05 PM
FORSLUND: PAGE 13-14 IMPLEMENTING A NEW NURSING HOME RATE MODEL.  DEPT IS REQUIRED TO BRING IN AT LEAST EVERY 5 YEARS, A REBASING. IT HAS BEEN SOME YEARS SINCE A REBASE WAS DONE.  DEPT REQUIRED TODEVELOP A NEW RATE MODEL.  FLEX 3 PRINCIPAL AREAS…EX; MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, NURSING HOME GETS SAME PER DIEM FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF PATIENTS, HEALTH OR MENTAL HEALTH.  INCENTIVE IS TO TAKE CARE OF EASY TO CARE FOR PATIENTS. NO INCENTIVE TO TAKE CARE OF TOUGHER PATIENTS. NURSING HOMES WILL BOOT OUT PATIENTS THAT ARE DIFFICULT TO TAKE CARE OF SO END UP AT STATE HOSPITAL AS A SAFETY NET SITUATION. TASK FORCE OF DIRECT CARE INDUSTRY, HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY, LEGISLATURES WORKED THROUGH NEW MODEL.  ACUITY BASED MODEL TO REWARD HOMES TAKING MORE DIFFICULT PATIENTS AS WELL AS ESY ONE. 63% OF NURSING HOME PAID FOR BY MEDICAID.  NOT SAME FOR EVERY FACILITY. AVG DAILY RATE PAID TO NURSING HOMESI 164 PER DAY.  COST IS 204 PER DAY.  THEY LOSE 40 PER DAY SO MUST MAKE UP DIFFERENCE WITH PAYING PATIENTS OR CAP NUMBER OF  MEDICAID PATIENTS. 9.6m REQUESTED, 50/50 SPLIT OF STATE AND MEDICAID FUNDS
MONIZ:  WHAT HAPPENS TO A MEDICAID PATIENT IF NO ONE IN STATE WILL ACCEPT THEM?  
FORSLUND:  THEY GO OUT OF STATE OR STAY IN A NON-NURSING HOME ENVIRONMENT
12/17/2014 3:48:40 PM
HARSHMAN: WHY WOULD IT BE CHEAPER TO GO OUT OF STATE? . WHY WOULD THAT BE AN OPTION?
FORSLUND: MULTI FAUCETED SITUATION. IF YOU HAVE LONG TERM CARE INSURANCE, IT IS EASIER TO GET IN HOEM.  MEDICAID , NURSING HOME SAYS WE CAN MAKE IT AT 65% MEDICAID AND 35% PRIVATE PAY. SOME NURSING HOMES GO UP TO 80 OR 90% MEDICAID AND THE MODEL DOES NTO WORK.  WE HAVE VACANCIES IN STATE.  88-85% FULL. WE HAVE CAPACITY. IT IS A MATTER OF FINANCIAL. AS A STATE, MAKE SURE OUR RATES ARE SUFFICIENT.  
HARSHMAN: RATES ARE BETTER IN OTHER STATES.
FORSLUND: I CAN’T SAY THAT.
PERKINS: RATES MAY NOT BE DIFFERENT BUT MEDICAID RATES MAY BE DIFFERENT OR CLOSER TO FAMILY.
PERKINS: NOT HIGH FOR REGION
HARSHMAN: LOW FOR THE REGION.
12/17/2014 3:51:38 PM
PERKINS: ISSUES DISCUSSED EARLIER WITH DFS SAME AS THIS
FORSLUND: CORRECT, TO KEEP NURSING HOMES VIALBE, MUST FUND AT AN APPROPRAITE LEVEL.  SOME ARE NON-PROFIT. SOME ARE PRIVATE BUSINESSES. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN ASSOCIATIONS.  DO NOT GET ALONG WELL OR WORK TOGETHER WELL.  IN LAST YEAR BOTH GROUPS DID WORK TOGETHER AND ASKED ME TO TAKE IT FORWARD TO THE LEGISLATURE.  I AGREED AND HJVE FULFILLED.
ESQUIBEL:  OTHER NURSING HOME ENVIRONMENTS?
FORSLUND: OTHER FACILITIES.  
EXQUIBEL: WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ALL THE NURSING HOMES ARE FULL IN THIS STATE DUE TOAGING POPULATION?
FORSLUND:  NEED TO KEEP IT ATTRACTIVE ENOUGH THAT THEY WILL TAKE MEDICAID PATIENTS.  ASSUME PRIVATE SECTOR WILL RESPOND BUT WILL NOT BUILD UNLESS THE BUSINESS MODEL WORKS.  
12/17/2014 3:55:50 PM
ROSS: BREAKDOWN OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE HOMES.  
FORSLUND:  IN NURSING HOMES BEST INTEREST TO CHERRY PICK IF ACUITY IS NOT IN THERE.
PERKINS: REBASING IS VITAL IS WHAT YOU ARE TELLING US. STATE RATE IS BELOW ACTUAL COST.  
FORSLUND: THIS IS A MEDICAID ISSUE OVERALL.  STATES HAVE CUT REIMBURSEMENT RATES WHEN THEY GO THROUGH BAD ECONOMIC TIMES.  WYOMING RANKS TOP IN THE COUNTRY FOR ACCEPTANCE OF MEDICAID PATIENTS. 
FORSLUND: TWO MAJOR AREAS, STUDY OF REBASING AND BEGINNING PROCESS OF REBASING
GREEAR: DO NOT WANT TO CREATE INCENTIVE FOR PATIENTS FROM OTHER STATES TO COME IN AND TAKE UP THE BEDS.  
FORSLUND:   REFLECTION OF COST OF WYOMING NURSING HOMES.  MUST PROVE THEIR COSTS. NOT OVERCOMPENSATION.
GREEAR:  DISCUSSING EARLIER RATIOS AND PATIENTS LEAVING OUR STATE.  IF WE BUMP THE AMOUNT UP, WILL RESIDENTS OF NEIGHBORING STATES COME TO WYOMING?  
FORSLUND:  I DO NOT HAVE THE DATA IN FRONT OF ME SHOWING UTAH RATES.  COMES UP PERIODICALLY.  SHALL WE MAKE IT MORE RESTRICTIVE? WE FOLLOW FEDERAL GUIDELINES AND WE CAN’T PUT A BARRIER UP.  
GREEAR: DO WE HAVE THE DATA?
FORSLUND: YES, CAN SEND IT
GREEAR: SOME ONE SHOULD LOOK AT IT
BEBOUT
CONNOLLY: FIGURE BASED ON NARRATIVE, 9.5M COMES ABOUT FROM REBASING BUT NOT ALLOWED TO DO IT.  WHEN DID YOU DO IT BASED ON A NEW MODEL. HOW DID YOU GET TO THAT FIGURE?
FORSLUND?
CONNOLLY: NARRATIVE QUOTE.  IT APPEARS YOU HAVE REDONE IT TO GET TO YOUR REQUEST.
FORSLUND: IT IS TWO PARTS. ONE FOR STUDY AND THEN FUNDS TO ACCOMPLISH THE RESULTS OF THE STUDY.  FUNDS LAST YEAR, MEDICAID REFORM BILL, CAUSED REBASING. WANT TO ENCOURAGE NURSING HOMES TO REINVEST, SO WANT TO INCENTIVIZE THEM.  CAME UP WITH PRICE TAG OF REBASING UNDER NEW REIMBURSEMENT MODEL.
CONNOLLY: BASED ON CURRENT TIME WHEN STUDY DONE OR ON PROJECTION FOR NEXT BIENNIUM
FORSLUND: DONE IN 2014
CONNOLLY: HOW OFTEN IS IT DONE AND WHO DOES IT? REDOING OF FORMULA BASED ON AN ACTUAL PATIENT POPULATION.
FORSLUND: STATE LAW REQUIRES EVERY 2 YEARS, NURSING HOME EVERY 5 YEARS.  LEGISLATURE DOES NOT DO IT YEARLY.  PWERIODICALLY WE BRING IN THE WORK BUT LEGISLATURE SAYS NO TO THE FUNDING. 
12/17/2014 4:08:21 PM
PERKINS:  WE WERE AT 162 STATE AVG PER DAY FOR FULL SKILLED.  WHAT TYPES OF RATES ARE WE LOOKING AT NOW WITH REBASING IN PLACE?
FORSLUND:  Jesse Springer
JESSE SPRINGER: AIMS UNIT MANAGER IWHT MEDICARE.  DAY WEIGHTED AVG UNDER NEW MODEL WOULD BE 180. WITH UPL, PROVIDER TAX, COMPENSATES PROVIDERS FOR LOSS, COMES UP TO 189.90
PERKINS: WHAT IS THE PREMIUM FOR PATIENTS WITH HIGHER ACUTITY.
SPRINGER: THERE IS A RANGE, RATE ADJUSTED BY AVG ACUITY
PERKINS: WHAT IS THE RANGE?
SPRINGER:  THAT IS ONLY A PORTION OF THE RATE. OTHER FACTORS GO INTO THE TOTAL RATE.  ABOUT 80 DOLLARS ADJUSTED FOR THE ACUITY POPULATON. AFFECTED BY AGE OF FCIITY, CAN GET YOU MOE INFORMATION.
PERKINS: MOVING FROM 162 TO 192 ABOUT?
SPRINGER:  ABOUT 160 TO 178, MOVING FROM 178 TO 198.  COMPLICATED. WE THINK WITH THE PROVIDER TAX , WHICH WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 2011. GIVES THEM A BUMP. NO STATE CONTRIBUTION TO THAT, FUNDED BY PROVIDRS AND THE FEDERAL GOVT. 
12/17/2014 4:12:35 PM
BEBOUT: STATE PROGRAM.  STATE PAYS.  DO WE NEED IT, WHAT IS THE COST, TOTAL GF DOLLARS. TAKING THEIR ASSETS.  GET IT TO US.  
FORSLUND: WILL FOLLOWUP WITH INFORMATION
12/17/2014 4:13:50 PM
BEBOUT:  IN HOME HEALTH CARE VS NURSING HOME.  ARE WE AT HIGHEST LEVEL OR AE WE BEYOND THAT?  
FORSLUND:  IT IS IN EVERYONE’S INTEREST TO STAY IN THEIR HOME AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.  WHEN IS IT IMPOSSIBLE.  JUDGEMENT CALL. PROBLEM IN PAST IS CAPPING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO CAN BE ON THE LONG TERM CARE. AS PART OF MEDICARE REFORM, THAT CAP HAS BEEN REMOVED.  WE PROVIDED ADDITIONAL FUNDING.  WE HAVE MORE SLOTS.  WE ARE TRACKING.   NURSING HOMES WILL SAY THEY STAY IN HOME TOO LONG, NEED TO COME TO NURSING HOME EARLIER.
12/17/2014 4:15:57 PM
BEBOUT:  BETTER WAY TO COME UP WITH INFO YOU ARE LOOKING AT.  WANT TO PROVIDE CARE FOR PEOPLE IN STATE WHO NEED SERVICES. SOME INDICATORS THAT WE GO WAY BEYOND NATIONAL. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
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BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30. CAN YOU PROVIDE NUMBERS FOR ADULT CARE, DD, … IS THAT DATA READILY AVAILABLE.?
FORSLUND: CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE.
GREEAR: KNOW WE CAN’T PUT UP ROADBLOCKS BUT DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A HAVEN.  
BEBOUT: 10 MINUTE PAUSE. BACK AT 4:30.
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FORSLUND:
PAGES 19 AND 20  PUBLIC HEALTH LAB REQUEST, NEED AUTHORIZATION TO SPEND, REPLACING EQUIPMENT
FORSLUND: PAGE 26  PRESCHOOL SERVICES, PROVIDED FUNDING FOR A YEAR LAST YEAR.  MAINTENANCE OF EFFORTS.  
BEBOUT: MORE BACKGROUND ALSO.  CAME TO RESOLUTION I THOUGHT TO MVOE FORWARD AND THEN LOOK AT THE INTERIM.  
FORSLUND:  IN BUDGET IS PRESCHOOL, WHICH IS VIEWED AS AONE PROGRAM BUT IT IS TWO SEPARATE PROGRAMS. B IS AGES 3-5. C IS ZERO -2.  FEDERAL GOVT. VIEWS AS TWO PROGRAMS.  FED FUNDS TO STATE DEPT OF ED, WHICH THEN GIVES MONEY TO WDH, VIEWED A SCHOOL DISTRICT. PURPOSE OF PROGRAM IS TO PROVIDE OUTCOMES FOR DEVELOPMENTAL DELAYS OR DISABILITIES (CHILDREN).  UNDER STATUE IT IS A SINGLE PROGRAM.  DURING CUT BACKS, WE REDUCED FUNDING. ISSUE OF MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT WAS RAISED.  FROM FED PERSPECTIVE, ONCE FUNDED AT CERTAIN LEVEL, YOU CAN ONLY LOWER FUNDING IF NUMBER OF CHILDREN DROP.
BEBOUT: DO NOT HAVE TO INCREASE IT.
FORSLUND: YES BUT IF YOU DO INCREASE IT, HAVE TO STAY AT THAT AMOUNT. CHILD COUNT IS NOV 1 BUT WE HAVE TO SUBMIT IN THE SUMMER. WE PUT IN PLACEHOLDER OF 1.6 m FOR THIS REQUEST.  PART B PROGRAM, THE FED GOV CONTRIBUTES 7% OF FUNDING, STATE GF CONTRIBUTES93.  ON PART C, THE FEDS CONTRIBUTE 15, THE STATE 85 %.  PART B IS PART OF A LARGER EDUCATION PACKAGE.  
BEBOUT: MUST MAINTAIN ENTIRE AMOUNT AT THAT LEVEL.
FORSLUND: CORRECT: HANDOUT.  CHILD COUNT DROPPED SO BROUGHT DOWN TO 34M. NOVEMBER 1ST CHILD COUNT IS IN, DROPPED 35 CHILDREN IN PART B.  PART C INCREASED TO 59 NUMBER OF CHILDREN.  WE CAN REDUCE $308426 FUNDING FOR PART B PROGRAM  UP TO YOU WHETHER TO FUND IT OR NOT.
BURKHART: IS THAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT OR THE PER CHILD AMOUNT THAT CAN’T BE REDUCED?
FORSLUND: IT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT.
BEBOUT: TOTAL AMOUN AND LESS CHILDREN, SPEND MORE MONEY ON EACH CHILD.
FORSLUND: NO ..LOOK AT B, CHILD COUNT ALLOWS IT TO BE REDUCED.
HARSHMAN:  BASED ON DOLLARS PER CHILD, MAINTENANCE EFFORT, ONCE SET AT PER CHILD AMOUNT, CAN NOT GO DOWN.  OR IS IT TOTAL COMBINGING.
FORSLUND:  FED PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU HAVE 24 m IN PART B PROGRAM, MUST SPEND 24 M NEXT YEAR UNLESS THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN IS REDUCED.  
HARSHMAN: PER CHILD.
FORSLUND; NUMBER OF CHILDREN CAN GO UP BUT DO NOT HAVE TO INCREASE THE TOTAL AMOUNT FUNDED.  
HARSHMAN: CAN REDUCE TH TOTAL IF THE CHILD COUNT DROPS.  
BEBOUT: IF THE CHILD COUNT GOES UP, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO INCREASE IT BUT IF YOU DO, THAT IS THE NEW LEVEL.
HARSHMAN: PART B AND C CAN BE LOOKED AT SEPERATELY OR DO THE FEDS LOOK AT TOTAL
FORSLUND;  FOR FEDS IT IS TWO PROGRAMS, FOR STATE IT IS ONE PROGRAM.  
12/17/2014 4:49:00 PM
STUBSON: PER CHILD AMOUNT, WE MAKE EXPENDITURES BASED ON PER CHILD AND NUMBER IN SYSTEM.  MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT ONLY LOOKS AT TOTAL.  HISTORICALLY, …
BREAK IN NOTES DUE TO PHONE CALL
FORSLUND:  
STUBSON: EXPENDITURES UNDER DD PROGRAM, DO THEY LOOK AT OTHER WAIVERS?
FORSLUND: FOR THIS COMPONENT, THEY ONLY LOOK AT PART B.  IF WE SAID,  PART B IS SUCH A SMALL PERCENT OF BUDGET, WE WOULD BE BETTER OFF NOT ACCEPTING FEDERAL FUNDS THEN THAT WOULD IMPACT THE DEPT OF EDUCATION ON A LARGER SCALE. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TRANSFER TO THE DEPT OF EDUCATION.  
BEBOUT:  ?
FORSLUND: OR SMOOTH IT OUT
BEBOUT:  … TROUBLE GETTING FROM 519 TP 1.6 m
FORSLUND: PLACEHOLDER IS 1.6 m CAN BE REDUCEDTO 517472
HARSHMAN: ADDITIONAL MONEY INCREASE THE 363 PER CHILD IN THE NARRATIVE? PAGE 26, GOING FROM 84.49 TO88.10
PECK: SHORT TERM CFO FOR WDH.  WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IS STATUE SAYS WHAT THE STATE IS GOING TO CONTRIBUTE.  EFFECTIVE RATE AFTER BUDGET CUTS IS 84.49 PER CHILD. BECAUSE OF THE MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT, WE HAD TO RESTORE FUNDING DUE TO MOE, SO GET NEW CHILD RATE OF 88.10. WE CAN REDUCE THE FUNDING AND STILL COMPLY WITH THE MOE
ROSS: PART C, THE 51919 IS THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT IS IF WE PICK UP THE ADDITIONAL KIDS?
FORSLUND: CORRECT
ROSS: IT IS INCLUDED IN THE …
FORSLUND: CORRECT
ROSS: IF WE DID NOT PICK UP THE KIDS, WOULD NOT NEED THAT AMOUTN
FORSLUND: CORRECT
FORSLUND: TO FURTHER COMPLICATE, IF YOU PASS ON ECA, WE ARE TYO MAKE A REQUEST TO YOU FOR THAT.  YOU GAVE A 1.6% ECA. NEED 276,000 TO PASS IT ON
BEBOUT: STATUE SAYS IF WE DO ETA, MUST BRING IT TO OUR ATTENTION.  
FORSLUND: 21-13-3090 STATUE  REQUEST FOR 276000
ROSS:  59 KIDS,  ZERO TO TWO. WHAT KIND OF SERVICES ARET HE KIDS NOT GOING TO GET IF WE DON’T PICK THEM UP?  
FORSLUND: DEPENDS ON THE CHILD IF THEY HAVE DEVELOPMENTAL DELAY OR DIABILITY AND TYPES OF SERVICES THE CHILD NEEDS
HARSHMAN:  59 KIDS ARE GOING TO GET PICKED UP BUT FACIITY WON’T GET REIMBURSED?
FORSLUND: THEY ARE ALREADY RECEIVING THE SERVICES.
BEBOUT: HOW MANY KIDS IN BOTH PROGRAMS?
FORSLUND: APPROXIMATELY 4400 IN BOTH PROGRAMS
BEBOUT: CONTINUE
12/17/2014 5:00:25 PM
FORSLUND: 30 M FOR FACIILTIES.  SIMILAR AMOUNT TO WHAT WS PROVIDED LAST YEAR.  
BEBOUT: SHUT DOWN RETIREMENT CENTER IN BASIN, DO SOMETHING TO PIONEER HOME, SEN DOCKSTADER EXPECTING LEGISLATURE TO MAKE DECISION.
DOCKSTADER: IF WE HAVE THE FORTITUDE TODO IT.  BASIN HAS REACHED ITS TIME
DOCKSTADER: THERMOPOLIS HAS SERVED ITS TIME,  ALL COMMUNITIES NOW HAVE SIMILAR FACILTIES SO SHOULD STATE FUND THERMOPOLIS.
BEBOUT:  REPORT?
DOCKSTADER:  YES, THERE IS A REPORT BUT NOT LEGISLATURE.  
12/17/2014 5:02:13 PM
ESQUIBEL:  DEVELOPMENTAL DISABIILTY CHILDREN, ARE THEY MEDICAID BABIES OR DO MOTHERS HAVE MEDICAID BENEFITS. HAVE WE LOOKED AT EARLIER INTERVENTION?  
FORSLUND: STATE OF WYOMING IS EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE IN IDENTIFICATION OF CHILDREN IN NEED, RATES OF IDENTIFICATION ARE HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY.  WE ARE NUMBER 1 IN THE NATION.  NATIONAL AVG IS 2.5 X LESS THAN WYOMING. THE MORE AGGRESSIVE YOU ARE IN IDENTIFYING THE CHILDREN WITH NEED, THE MORE COMPENSATION YOU RECEIVE.  
ESQUIBEL: START LOOKING MORE AT PREGNANT MOTHERS IN NEED
FORSLUND; FROM A MEDICAID PERSPECTIVE, WE TOTALLY AGREE. WE HAVE STARTED A NUMBER OF EFFORTS TO ENCOURAGE PRENATAL CARE.  PART OF MEDICAID REFORM ACT YOU PASSED A FEW YEARS AGO. HAVE KICKED OFF INITIATIVES FROM SMART PHONE APP TO COMMUNITY BABY SHOWERS, TRYING TO GET EDUCATION LEVEL OUT TO THOSE MOTHERS.  REDUCE SMOKING, ETC. MEDICAID AND PUBLIC HEALTH HAVE PARTNERED TOGETHER.  WE WILL CONTINUE EFFORTS
ESQUIBEL: NICU EXPENSES – ARE THEY GOING DOWN SINCE PASSAGE OF MEDICAID REFORM?
FORSLUND: NOT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
GREEAR: HOW LONG HAS PROGRAM BEEN IN EFFECT?  THE BC PROGRAM DEVELOPMENTAL PRESCHOOL
FORSLUND: DECADES. DO WE SEE ANY CORRELATION OF CHILDREN DOING BETTER IN SCHOOL, ETC?
FORSLUND: WE DO NOT HAVE A CLUE. WE DO NOT HAVE LONGITUDINAL DATA TO DETERMINE THAT
GREEAR: DO NOT HAVE DATA TO KNOW IF IT IS EFFECTIVE PROGRAM
FORSLUND:  DATA WE HAVE IS AGES ZERO TO 5.  WE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO DATA IN PUBLIC SCHOOL DATA.
GREEAR: DOES DEPT OF ED HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR DATA?
FORSLUND: WE COULD MAKE IT AVAILABLE
12/17/2014 5:09:30 PM
HASTERT:  CHILD DEVELOPEMENTAL BOARD, CONVOLUTED THING. PART OF AUTHORITY IS WITH WDH AND DFS.  UNEQUIVICALLY, WE HELP THESE KIDS.  THEY ARE SCREENED AND HELPED. EVERY DOLLAR SPENT GIVES 9 DOLLAR RETURN. MUCH HIGHER EXPENSE  IN PUBLIC SCHOOL. 
HARSHMAN: ECA, IF WE GIVE 1.6 ADJUSTMENT, THAT BECOMES THE NEW BASELINE FOR MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT FOR WHAT CAN’T BE REDUCED.
FORSLUND: CORRECT
HARSHMAN: SEPARATE STATUE WHETHER IT IS RAISED ECA OR JUST WANT TO DO IT. 
ROSS: DO NOT HAVE TO DO IT
FORSLUND: DO NOT HAVE TO ADD FUNDING. CAN’T REDUCE UNLESS THE CHILD COUNT GOES DOWN…
HARSHMAN:  PART B IS WHAT WE COULD MOVE TO THE DEPT OF ED BUT CAN’T MOVE C?
FORSLUND: YOU CAN MOVE THEM BOTH. WE ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM. ANOTHER STATE AGENCY CAN ADMINISTER IT.  MAKES SENSE TO MOVE PART B. PART C COULD BE ARGUED IT SHOULD STAY WITH HEALTH BASED ON AGE BUT THERE ARE NO RESTRICTIONS ON MOVING IT.  WE ARE THE ONLY STATE IN THE COUNTRY THAT RUNS B THE WAY WE DO.
HARSHMAN: BETTER TO BE RUN BY ONE AGENCY.
FORSLUND: CAN’T ANSWER THAT
ROSS: WHEN WE GAVE TH ECA LAST YEAR FOR K-12 HAS THAT HORSE LEFT THE BARN
BEBOUT:  ECA, IF IT GOES UP, STATUE SAID HE SHOULD REPORT TO US THAT IT SHOULD GO UP, WE DO NOT HAVE TO DO IT BUT IF WE DO, IT IS LOCKED IN.
BEBOUT: LOT OF REBASING DISCUSSIONS.  MENTAL HEALTH AND … JUST GET A BLOCK GRANT.  WHY DO WE GIVE THEM A BLOCK GRANT, NO ACCOUNTABILITY. WHY DIFFERENT TREATMENT?
FORSLUND:  REBASING IS DETERMINING COST OF SERVICE WHICH IS A PHILOSOPHY. LEGISLATURE MADE DECISION THAT THEY WANT A MENTAL HEALTH CARE SYSTEM AND DID NOT WANT IT BASED ON A FEE FOR SERVICE MODAL.  WANTED IT ON A BLOCK GRANT.  FACIILTES GET GRANT THEN COMMITT TO PROVIDE SO MANY UNITS OF SERVICE.
BEBOUT: IF THEY PROVIDE LESS, DO WE GET MONEHY BACK
FORSLUND: IN THEORY WE COULD BUT THEY NEVER GO UNDER THE AMOUNT
BEBOUT: THEORY
FORSLUND:  THEORY
BEBOUT: WHY NOT DO A REBASING?
BEBOUT: IS THAT THE ONLY ONE IN THE WDH? DOES ANYONE DO THIS?
FORSLUND: YES AND THE NO ONE ELSE DOES AS FAR AS I KNOWS.  RANKING OF SERVICES IN TERMS OF PART OF BUDGET.  HEALTH IS SECOND.  
BEBOUT; WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT OUT OF AN ISSUE OF FAIRNESS TO TAXPAYERS AND TO OTHERS GOING THROUGH REBASING 
FORSLUND: IF SO DIRECTED, WE WILL LOOK INTO IT AN OFFER SUGGESTIONS.
12/17/2014 5:19:59 PM
BEBOUT: TOBACCO TRUST FUND, MONEY SPENT ON ADVERTISING?.  REQUIREMENTS ON WAY MONEY IS SPENT.
FORSLUND: THERE IS FLEXIBILITY BUT THE INTENT IS TO DISCOURAGE SMOKING AND DEAL WITH THE EFFECTS OF SMOKING.
BEBOUT: I THINK IT HAS BEEN EFFECTIVE. CAN YOU GET ME THE AMOUNT?
BEBOUT: 10 M ON BILLBOARDS VS SOMEWHERE ELSE
FORSLUND; NOT 10 M , WILL GIVE YOU A LISTING ON HOW BEING SPENT.
BEBOUT; MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE  ABUSE, PLANS. WITH THE  SHARE PLAN TO MAKE IT REVENUE NEUTRAL WOULD HVE TO GO INTO BEHAVIORAL HEALTH 
FORSLUND: IF WE DO MEDICARE EXPANSION, DIFFERENT PROGRAMS IN THE DEPT, AS WELL AS AC REQUIRMENT OF MEANTL HEALTH PARITY. THERE IS THE OPTION TO MOVE STATE FUNDS FROM MENTAL HEALTH OVER TO THE MEDICARE SO INDIVIDUALS WILL BE INSURED THROUGH THE MARKETPLACE OR MEDICARE SO CAN MOVE A PORTION OF FUNDS OVER TO MEET THE MATCH.  A PORTION OF COMMUNITY MEANTL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE PROGRAMS MAKES SENSE. A PORTION COULD BE BILLED. I HAVE SAID WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND CAN MOVE THE MONEY 
BEBOUT: DO THE STATUES PROHIBIT YOU BECAUSE OF THE BLOCK GRANT SYSTEM?
FORSLUND; POLITICAL OR LEGAL QUESTION
BEBOUT; LEGAL
FORSLUND: I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MOVE MONEY AROUND MY DEPT
BEBOUT:  / AMOUNT
FORSLUND: WE HAVE A RANGE. ACUTURIAL DID A STUDY.
ESQUIBEL:  SINCE LABOR HEALTH DID NOT ACCEPT THE SHARE PLAN.  THE ONE THEY DID ACCEPT…
FORSLUND; WE WILL MODEL IT THE BEST WE CAN BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF UNKNOWNS IN IT.  MONEY PER PARTICIPANT INTO THEIR SAVINGS ACCOUNT.  …44 M INTO ACCOUNTS, CAN PEOPLE TAKE MONEY WITH THEM..NOT SURE HOW IT WILL BE MODELED.  I AM WILLING TO STAND TALL FOR THE SHARE PROGRAM.  I HAVE NOT SEEN THE FINAL MARK UP ON THE BILL. WE WILL DO THE BEST WE CAN . I DO NOT WANT PEOPLE TO SAY I MADE A COMMITMENT THAT WE COULD DO IT INTERNALLY WHEN I BASED IT ON THE SHARE PROGRAM.  I CAN NOT MAKE COMMITMENT BASED ON THIS PROGRAM. ARKANSAS WILL COST 37% MORE THAN SHARE PLAN.  DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.  COMMITTEE SELECTED ANOTHER PLAN
ESQUIBEL: I SHARE YOUR FRUSTRATION
12/17/2014 5:28:22 PM
NICHOLAS: BUDGET FOOTNOTE. AFTER JULY 1, 2015 , ALL MENTAL HEALTH DOLLARS PAID OUT OF GF OR TOBACCO FUNDS, WE WILL BE THE PAYOR OF LAST RESORT. IMPACT ON YOU?
FORSLUND; NOT IMPLEMENTED AT THIS POINT IN TIME.  WORKING ON HOW TO DO THAT. JOINT LABOR COMMITTEE.. IF IMPLEMENTED, WILL PUT NUMBER OF BUSINESSES OUT OF BUSINESS. COMMITTEE DISCUSSING RUNNING SOMETHING THROUGH TO OVER TURN THAT.  WE AE PLANNING TO FOLLOW FOOTNOTE UNLESS YOU OVERTURN IT.
NICHOLAS: NUMBERS?
FORSLUND; MORE GENERALIZED
BEBOUT: REP LARSEN CAN GIVE YOU INFO ABOUT THE METTING.  
BEBOUT: THANKS TO DIRECTOR FORSLUND.
FORSLUND: I BELIEVE JAC HAS TREATED US FAIRLY.
BEBOUT: TOMORROW 7:30. 3 BILLS ON YOUR DESK.  ISSUES ON BILLS.  7:00 FRIDAY MORNING.